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Cruising in Chile
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Guys 'n gals,
From time to time on this website I have banged on about our 7 year circumnavigation of South America, including three seasons in Chile and how an Amel
is the perfect boat to take there. I am a member of the Royal Thames Yacht Club in London. The vice commodore there is an old friend and his wife twisted my arm to give a talk last week.
In case you have exhausted all your box sets and have
absolutely nothing else to amuse you, here is my talk.
It starts at about the 6th minute and there is a bit of a glitch between the first and second slides, but if you keep going it takes about 80 minutes
in all.
I hope it will give you some idea of sailing in Chile. Pen Azen is in the Aegean these days but our hearts are very much out there. If we won the
lottery we would have a second Pen Azen based in Puerto Montt.
Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Kilada, Greece
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Re: Insurance
Drew Gaffney
We used TopSail after Pantaenius withdrew from the US market. Rigging issues were excluded until new standing rigging installed. Excellent geographic coveragel Drew Former Owner SV Revelation SM2k290
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 6:46 AM Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote: Greetings All,
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Re: Mizzen Staysail sheets.
I also have only 1 sheet for my mizzen Ballooner I believe 12 meters wish it was 13
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Cheers Courtney Trippin
On Feb 26, 2022, at 5:46 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre <jp.germain45@...> wrote:
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1996 SM153 “Loca Lola II” For Sale
Our fellow Amelians;
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Re: Endless rope loops
Hi Paul,
Its easy enough to make soft shackles with a length of dyneema and a fid.... https://www.animatedknots.com/soft-shackle Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Endless rope loops [sizing]
David Vogel
Greets.,
I have found 6mm too small (for the mainsheet-to-boom attachment, for instance, even though doubled-up), and swapped that for 8mm, retaining the multiple turns (wraps). 10mm for the genoa tack, as this is a single loop. 12mm for the genoa sheets. In addition, I am using a velcro band-wrap to hold the soft shackles exactly how I want them, especially those not constantly under load (e.g. sheets, which could be subject to flogging), or those not directly observable (head of genoa).
I would be interested in the experience of others, as I am using ‘what feels right’, but without any science re load factors etc.
Best,
David SM#396, Perigee
From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...>
Hi David, What mm are you finding that will cover most replacements or are you matching mm to load very specifically.
All the best, Chuck Joy 388
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM David Vogel <david.vogel@...> wrote:
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Re: Mizzen Staysail sheets.
Hi JP,
If you wanted to know for sure, our mizzen ballooner is in the lazarette under the barbeque and stuff. I'm pretty sure it has only one sheet and it's 10mm polyester about 12m long. Cheers Alan Elyse SM437
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Re: Endless rope loops
Doug Smith
You can make them fairly easily. The diameter on mine were 4.5 inches and I used 1/8”, 3/16” and 1/4” dyeneema to make them. On Aventura the 1/8 dyneema matches very closely to the original ones.
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On Feb 26, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote:
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Re: Remote temperature, pressure and humidity monitoring
Doug Smith
Jose,
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I placed my Cerbo in the space behind the main battery switches and mounted it using DIN 35 mm rails. I placed this as well as two relays for starting the generator based on SOC and commands from the Cerbo. I also used the GX display which is hardwired and mounted that to the face of the bookshelf right behind the navigation seat. The Ruuvi discs are mounted in the freezers and refrigerators using the 3M command strips with Velcro on one side so I can easily pull them to update firmware and more importantly, change out the batteries. I’m attaching some screenshots of the install on Aventura. Disregard the actual temperatures since she is sleeping for the winter and I haven’t turned on the systems so those are ambient temperatures. Thanks, Doug Smith Amel 54-113, Aventura Dugsmith98@...
On Feb 25, 2022, at 7:18 PM, Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas@...> wrote:
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Hi David, What mm are you finding that will cover most replacements or are you matching mm to load very specifically. All the best, Chuck Joy 388
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 6:37 PM David Vogel <david.vogel@...> wrote:
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Re: Parts for YANMAR 4JH3-HTE - if replacing your engine, please advertise your engine accessories on the AMEL forum
Eric Freedman
If anyone is interested, I have an almost complete (no water pump or alternator) 4jh3hte for sale with the transmission.
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It had 7,000 hours on it and I just decided to change it . It did not have any issues whatsoever. It burned no oil and had good compression. Oil and all filters including the tranny were changed at least three times a year The only things that I replaced were the turbo, a few alternators , a starter motor and the injector nozzles . I also have a bunch of spares for it that do not fit the new engine. I just wanted to have a new engine that would last me another 85,000 miles. The old engine is in St Maarten and can be shipped by sea anywhere. I installed a 4jh4hte in its place--basically the same engine. If anyone is interested, please email me at kimberlite.ef@... Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of David Vogel Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 2:26 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Parts for YANMAR 4JH3-HTE - if replacing your engine, please advertise your engine accessories on the AMEL forum Greetings, I am in the process of doing a major service (1,000HR / 4YR) on my YANMAR 4JH3-HTE. Due to COVID-related circumstances, I stretched the service interval to 4 YRS and 1,500hours. This routine periodic servicing is called "preventative maintenance" for a reason. During the turbo experience in Tahiti 6 months back, I gave the engine a good look-over and noted some coolant weeping at one of the end-caps for the Oil Cooler - there was no visible moisture, only a trace of the evaporated coolant on the outside metal surfaces surrounding the gasket-join. I had a very experienced and well-reputed mechanic in Tahiti do a visual on it, and he was of the opinion at that time to "keep an eye on it", but to do nothing until I got to NZ or AUS. The weeping gradually increased over the intervening months, resulting is a small rust bloom under the end-cap, and pooling in the engine block. After removal and cleaning of the oil cooler, some serious erosion was identified on the mating face of the main tube (p/n: 129671-33001) - see attached picture (IMG_9588). Advisedly requiring replacement - the mechanics here recommended against building up the eroded metal and then re-machining. No worries, I thought, giving myself a pat on the back, as I had, per chance, a spare second-hand unit acquired in Panama when a cruising buddy needed to replace his (non-intercooled) 4JH3-TE, due to a warped headed and the consequential problems he experienced. The main body of the oil coolers for these engines are the same, except for the end caps. My warm glow rapidly evaporated, however, when it turned out that my 'spare' Oil Cooler was suffering exactly the same erosion as my original, although to a lessor extent. But nevertheless not fit for use. In attempting to source a replacement, I discovered that, reportedly, these parts are no longer being manufactured by YANMAR (that is, none held in stock in Japan). Cost new from the UK: GBP1,400-. Fortunately, a global search located a suitable second-hand unit in good condition in Australia. Cost: AUD850-. Now on-board. Detailed inspection of the inter-cooler (air cooler), also removed for routine cleaning and inspection, has identified thermal and stress related cracking in each of the end-caps (P/nos: 129673-18220 & 129673-18230). These individual parts are (reportedly) also no longer being individually manufactured - a global search by the YANMAR dealer/distributor here reports no second-hand units can be located anywhere on the planet, and the only way forward is to purchase a complete new unit from YANMAR Japan, with the POA price advised (after a 3 wk delay) of over $5,000-. Or, to have new end-caps machined up from scratch, an option I am now investigating. (I am now also seeking a second opinion from the main YANMAR service center in AKL.) Some takeaways here are: 1. ignore routine service-intervals at your peril; I shudder to think of the broader damage that could have occurred should the oil cooler have suffered a catastrophic failure while the engine was operating at load. It was only the rust bloom that was holding the coolant in, and thank heavens I did not disturb it once it started to grow - I had thought initially to "brush it up" and have a prod and poke around but, upon reflection, thought the better of it, to "let sleeping dogs lie" until I was on the dock with workshops and suitably experienced mechanics nearby - I am glad I left well alone. But I will be a lot more careful in future about these 'little' signs of impending problems. 2. if anyone is replacing their legacy YANMAR engine, please retrieve the accessories (oil cooler, turbo, fuel injector pump, inter-cooler, and so on), and offer them to your fellow AMEL owners, as these items are becoming increasingly rare. Thank you, and with kind regards, David SM#396, Perigee Whangarei, NZ
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Mizzen Staysail sheets.
Germain Jean-Pierre
Ooops… wrong email addy...
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Re: Endless rope loops
Germain Jean-Pierre
Hi David,
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I did this 7 years ago. Still looking good and avoid the “hurtful” noise of metal to metal during a gibe or tack. Cheers,
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Re: Recommended headsail inventory
Eric Freedman
Our heavy weather headsail is a 10.5 oz 105% yankee cut sail. It is good to around 50 knots—then the Jordan Drogue. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of Rick Stanley
Hi folks we're in the process of entirely refitting our Sm2K and are getting close to ordering sails.
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Re: Endless rope loops
David Vogel
Greets,
Are you referring to “soft shackles”?
If so, you can buy these at a chandlery, or go to a rigger / sail-maker, and get them made up to spec. We are in the process of replacing all met-to-metal shackle with soft shackles.
Best,
David SM#396, Perigee
From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown <paul.dowd@...>
Hi All,
Many of the “endless rope loops” – I don’t know what the technical term is – that secure e.g. the mizzen sheet block to the boom, amongst a number of other things, look to be in need of replacement. I was wondering if anyone can recommend a suitable alternative to these as I know that to make them in situ as would be required requires some expertise which I do not have and cannot see gaining anytime soon.
Cheers, Paul
Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98 skype: pauldowd
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Endless rope loops
Paul Dowd and Sharon Brown
Hi All,
Many of the “endless rope loops” – I don’t know what the technical term is – that secure e.g. the mizzen sheet block to the boom, amongst a number of other things, look to be in need of replacement. I was wondering if anyone can recommend a suitable alternative to these as I know that to make them in situ as would be required requires some expertise which I do not have and cannot see gaining anytime soon.
Cheers, Paul
Paul Dowd & Sharon Brown S/Y Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98 skype: pauldowd
-- Cheers Paul Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98
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Re: Recommended headsail inventory
rossirossix4
Hi Rick,
Regarding the smaller jenny --instead of a 90% I'd recommend maybe a 105 or 110% because 1) you can furl it even smaller and then go to a super reefed main as a tri-sail before going to survival mode and 2) it is surprisingly versatile. It is very difficult to change the genoa in route and a real production even at anchor or dock, given uncertainty in forecasts and "head and shoulder effects--where the wind gradually builds and subsides it is not that functional. If you are sailing with your regular genoa and then the wind builds and you need a smaller one there is almost no way you are going to douse the old one and fly the new one and vice versa. We used a 110 100% of the time in the Med for 5+ years and it was fantastic. Did I mention that we used it 100% of the time there? The Med has a reputation for too much or too little wind. In too little wind you still only lose a knot or so and in less wind you are motor-sailing. With too much wind it does fine and seldom needs to be furl-reefed. It also is good for those acceleration zones between caribbean islands yet gives you enough size to keep pace in the lee of an island before the next acceleration zone. Some like the 105 or 110 as high-cut. 2 other thoughts. 1)consider Hydranet sails as it sounds like you want something bomb-proof. 2)consider keeping or patching up your mizzen sail if it is not too bad (still get a new mizzen sail) The shape is not that critical as don't want to use it close-hauled and because it is not your new sail you can lay it against the shrouds as you go down wind without worrying too much messing up its looks. Also you can leave it out when you want to fight rolling at anchor. Unlike the other larger sails it can be replaced underway when you eventually blow it out. A spare mizzen sail can be used as a main replacement if you blow the main out and you can preform quite well by flying them together. Finally i would check with Emrah at Q-Sails in Turkey as his quality and prices are good (we had ours delivered with no issues to Aruba). He has some pdfs that are specific to Amel SMs that are worth taking a look at. Bob, KAIMI SM429
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Now: Round Table Discussion ZOOM & STREAM - Provisioning your Amel - 02/26/2022
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Mark & Cindy Erdos Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> Cindy <cindy@...> Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> Chris Doucette <amaroksailing@...> Up to two more may be added. Anyone else wishing to volunteer to be one of the 4-6 panelists for this Round Table should email Bill Rouse at brouse@...
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Parts for YANMAR 4JH3-HTE - if replacing your engine, please advertise your engine accessories on the AMEL forum
David Vogel
Greetings,
I am in the process of doing a major service (1,000HR / 4YR) on my YANMAR 4JH3-HTE. Due to COVID-related circumstances, I stretched the service interval to 4 YRS and 1,500hours. This routine periodic servicing is called "preventative maintenance" for a reason. During the turbo experience in Tahiti 6 months back, I gave the engine a good look-over and noted some coolant weeping at one of the end-caps for the Oil Cooler - there was no visible moisture, only a trace of the evaporated coolant on the outside metal surfaces surrounding the gasket-join. I had a very experienced and well-reputed mechanic in Tahiti do a visual on it, and he was of the opinion at that time to "keep an eye on it", but to do nothing until I got to NZ or AUS. The weeping gradually increased over the intervening months, resulting is a small rust bloom under the end-cap, and pooling in the engine block. After removal and cleaning of the oil cooler, some serious erosion was identified on the mating face of the main tube (p/n: 129671-33001) - see attached picture (IMG_9588). Advisedly requiring replacement - the mechanics here recommended against building up the eroded metal and then re-machining. No worries, I thought, giving myself a pat on the back, as I had, per chance, a spare second-hand unit acquired in Panama when a cruising buddy needed to replace his (non-intercooled) 4JH3-TE, due to a warped headed and the consequential problems he experienced. The main body of the oil coolers for these engines are the same, except for the end caps. My warm glow rapidly evaporated, however, when it turned out that my 'spare' Oil Cooler was suffering exactly the same erosion as my original, although to a lessor extent. But nevertheless not fit for use. In attempting to source a replacement, I discovered that, reportedly, these parts are no longer being manufactured by YANMAR (that is, none held in stock in Japan). Cost new from the UK: GBP1,400-. Fortunately, a global search located a suitable second-hand unit in good condition in Australia. Cost: AUD850-. Now on-board. Detailed inspection of the inter-cooler (air cooler), also removed for routine cleaning and inspection, has identified thermal and stress related cracking in each of the end-caps (P/nos: 129673-18220 & 129673-18230). These individual parts are (reportedly) also no longer being individually manufactured - a global search by the YANMAR dealer/distributor here reports no second-hand units can be located anywhere on the planet, and the only way forward is to purchase a complete new unit from YANMAR Japan, with the POA price advised (after a 3 wk delay) of over $5,000-. Or, to have new end-caps machined up from scratch, an option I am now investigating. (I am now also seeking a second opinion from the main YANMAR service center in AKL.) Some takeaways here are: 1. ignore routine service-intervals at your peril; I shudder to think of the broader damage that could have occurred should the oil cooler have suffered a catastrophic failure while the engine was operating at load. It was only the rust bloom that was holding the coolant in, and thank heavens I did not disturb it once it started to grow - I had thought initially to "brush it up" and have a prod and poke around but, upon reflection, thought the better of it, to "let sleeping dogs lie" until I was on the dock with workshops and suitably experienced mechanics nearby - I am glad I left well alone. But I will be a lot more careful in future about these 'little' signs of impending problems. 2. if anyone is replacing their legacy YANMAR engine, please retrieve the accessories (oil cooler, turbo, fuel injector pump, inter-cooler, and so on), and offer them to your fellow AMEL owners, as these items are becoming increasingly rare. Thank you, and with kind regards, David SM#396, Perigee Whangarei, NZ
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Event: Round Table Discussion ZOOM & STREAM - Provisioning your Amel - 02/26/2022
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Reminder: Round Table Discussion ZOOM & STREAM - Provisioning your Amel When: Where: Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@... 8323804970 An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP Description: Panelists:
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Mark & Cindy Erdos Mark Erdos <mcerdos@...> Cindy <cindy@...> Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> Chris Doucette <amaroksailing@...> Up to two more may be added. Anyone else wishing to volunteer to be one of the 4-6 panelists for this Round Table should email Bill Rouse at brouse@...
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