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Re: Lewmar 58 winch slipping

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill,, You have confirmed my suspicion,that it is the pawls most likely. I have to admit that servicing of the winches was on my to do  list before we left and it did not make it to the top before we left. I will service them as soon as I fix the bad water  leak we discovered under the sink last night. I have spare pawls onboard.
Sorry we missed you guys at Black Point ,good luck with your seals and fishing,we caught two mahi sailing south 36 and 45”, finally.
Thanks,
Pat
Shenanigans
Re: Amel Mango

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...>
 

He Don

i think the significant difference is the hull and keel shape .
This makes the SM better performance in lighter winds.
Then the electric sailing control .

Greetings Elja
SM Balu 222

Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Overhead Curtain Track Fasteners

Craig Briggs
 

Greetings all,
The aluminum channels for the overhead hatch curtains (that the plastic curtain slides go into) are coming down as the fasteners have corroded.

 At first, I thought they were wood screws with very small heads holding it up, but they are quite corroded and not recognizable as screws - they may actually be some sort of nail.

 

 

I’ve tried very small screws, but the heads are all too wide to go into the track.

 

Does anyone know what was used here or what might be used to refasten the tracks?


Cheers,
Craig Briggs - s/v Sangaris / SN68  Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
Re: Bilge Pump not self priming

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Thanks Bill I will order one from Riza.

Kind Regards

On Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 3:33 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Ross,

You can buy that nylon (Delrin) gear from TF, now Gianneschi Pumps, from Emek Marine in Turkey, and probably SAV.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 2:29 PM Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Richie
There are 3 flap valves on the system
2 inside the pump and one at the strainer located at the entrance of the water from the bilge. 
When you leave the system dry for a while the flap valves deform and allow air to flow back reducing the ability of priming.  I had exactly the same problem when i replace the bonding stripe.  The solution is simple:  take the tube out of the bilge and place the strainer above the level of the pump.
With a hose fill in the tube though the inverted  strainer. Making sure you have enough water in the bilge  , rapidly place the tube back on the bilge and turn the pump on
water makes the valves work much better than air.  Make sure that the strainer is still covered with water at the end of the pumping cycle and if not adjust the line that turns the pump off.  If the strainer is not submerged air will slowly enters and causes the problem again.  Also, if you use the manual bilge pump, do not pump more water than that leaving the strainer under water   

Good luck

José Venegas
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Currently in San Andrés Colombia 🇨🇴






--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
Re: Lewmar 58 winch slipping

Bill Kinney
 

Pat,

This needs quick attention, a winch that slips in reverse presents a slew of dangers to the sailors onboard.  

If the winch is turning backwards, the only possible cause I can think of is that the pawls internally are sticking.  They are the only things that prevent the winch from spinning backwards.

When was the last time the winch was fully disassembled to be serviced and cleaned?  Usually this fault comes from accumulated salt and dirt.  If the pawls are lubricated with grease the time to failure is greatly accelerated.  They should only ever be oiled, not greased. Grease accumulates salt crystals and gets stiff and hard which prevents the pawls from seating as they need to.

Pawls and springs are such a critical part of a winch, I replace them with every service.  They are cheap.  Be 100% sure you use the RIGHT ones.  Different manufacturers use pawls that look VERY similar, but have subtle differences in shape that prevent them from being fully functional replacements for each other.

It is POSSIBLE—but unlikely—that the machined holes the pawls fit in have deformed to the point that they don’t move properly anymore.  I have seen this happen on heavily used smaller winches, but never on one as large as a 58.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Half Moon Cay, Bahamas
Re: Folding prop A54

CW Bill Rouse
 

All 54s came with an AutoProp, a self feathering propeller. It is great, but you have to keep it clean of growth.


 AutoProp by Bruntons.pdf

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 3:25 PM Levent Sabir <levent.sabir@...> wrote:
Hello everyone,
would love to hear your experience with the folding prop on A54, I am in the process of buying an A54 with a fixed prop,
Thank you in advance!
Levent

Re: Bilge Pump not self priming

CW Bill Rouse
 

Ross,

You can buy that nylon (Delrin) gear from TF, now Gianneschi Pumps, from Emek Marine in Turkey, and probably SAV.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 2:29 PM Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
Richie
There are 3 flap valves on the system
2 inside the pump and one at the strainer located at the entrance of the water from the bilge. 
When you leave the system dry for a while the flap valves deform and allow air to flow back reducing the ability of priming.  I had exactly the same problem when i replace the bonding stripe.  The solution is simple:  take the tube out of the bilge and place the strainer above the level of the pump.
With a hose fill in the tube though the inverted  strainer. Making sure you have enough water in the bilge  , rapidly place the tube back on the bilge and turn the pump on
water makes the valves work much better than air.  Make sure that the strainer is still covered with water at the end of the pumping cycle and if not adjust the line that turns the pump off.  If the strainer is not submerged air will slowly enters and causes the problem again.  Also, if you use the manual bilge pump, do not pump more water than that leaving the strainer under water   

Good luck

José Venegas
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Currently in San Andrés Colombia 🇨🇴





Re: Onan dipstick puzzle

Bill Kinney
 

Pat,

When we had our Onan I noticed same behavior many times.  My explanation to myself was that the dipstick was quite tightly sealed at the top (which is unusual) , and the tube surrounding the stick extended to the full length of the stick, which is also unusual.  When the engine ran, air bubbled up into the dipstick tube, and displaced the oil.  When you first pull out the dipstick you release this air,  the oil seeks its own level and can then be measured accurately.  

As you say a puzzle not a problem.  I never really investigated enough to be sure my answer is correct…

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Half Moon Cay, Bahamas.
Re: Maramu replacement autopilot drive motor

Ben Levy
 

That looks like a great solution but wouldn't the space on starboard side of the rudder be bigger in the mango as the boat is about 2m longer and therefore a bit wider too? 
I like the Jefa option too, would it work on a maramu though as the sharki, unlike the mango, is smaller and therefore lighter than the maramu? On their website it is written that it is good for rudder up to 150kgM .. anyone knows how much force is applied on the ruder of a the maramu?
All in all, it's great to see that there are more than one option unlike what vendors might be telling you..

cheers,
Ben
Folding prop A54

Levent Sabir
 

Hello everyone,
would love to hear your experience with the folding prop on A54, I am in the process of buying an A54 with a fixed prop,
Thank you in advance!
Levent
Re: Amel Mango

JB Duler
 

Donald,

There is a good Mango for sale in France https://www.forum-voiliers-amel.net/t/vente-maramu-n-19/2224/2
When they are well maintained the early Amels are very good value.
Good luck.
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med
Onan dipstick puzzle

Patrick McAneny
 

I don’t think this is a problem more of a puzzling question.When I pull the dipstick out of the Onan the dipstick has no oil on it, when I reinsert it and pull it out it is covered in oil. This has occurred many times, going back a long time.I have never seen this on another engine and can’t understand how it is possible. Any explanation?
Thanks,
Pat
Shenanigans
Bahamas
Re: Bilge Pump not self priming

Jose Venegas
 

Richie
There are 3 flap valves on the system
2 inside the pump and one at the strainer located at the entrance of the water from the bilge.
When you leave the system dry for a while the flap valves deform and allow air to flow back reducing the ability of priming. I had exactly the same problem when i replace the bonding stripe. The solution is simple: take the tube out of the bilge and place the strainer above the level of the pump.
With a hose fill in the tube though the inverted strainer. Making sure you have enough water in the bilge , rapidly place the tube back on the bilge and turn the pump on
water makes the valves work much better than air. Make sure that the strainer is still covered with water at the end of the pumping cycle and if not adjust the line that turns the pump off. If the strainer is not submerged air will slowly enters and causes the problem again. Also, if you use the manual bilge pump, do not pump more water than that leaving the strainer under water

Good luck

José Venegas
Ipanema SM 2K 278
Currently in San Andrés Colombia 🇨🇴
Re: Bilge Pump not self priming

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Hi Richie,

We had similar issues with our Bilge pump several years ago. After I had replaced the diaphragm twice I purchased a new pump from TF Marine in Italy. The new pump is basically identical to the pump I replaced it with except the motor is in a vertical orientation. I then pulled the old bilge pump apart and found the problem to be a broken nylon cog that drives the diaphragm.

See photo attached of the new TF Pump and broken old one.


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Kind Regards
Ross and Donna
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356

On Tuesday, February 22, 2022, 6:49 PM, Richie Whyte <richiewhyte@...> wrote:

Bill, Jean-Pierre, Courtney, Eloi, & Bill. Your advice is worth its weight in gold and has saved me plenty of hours and euro.

Many thanks.

Richie


--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey
Amel Mango

Donald Paget
 

Gentlemen and Ladies:

I am looking for an older good used Amel and was wondering what the significant differences are between the Mango and the Super Maramu? I understand that the Mango was in production earlier, had a prop shaft, and did not have a bow thruster similiar to that of the Maramu. Any comments would be most welcome.
Cheers, Don Paget
Re: Updating the Furuno GP-150

Vladan SV PAME
 

Here is contact for Furuno Germany.

Benjamin Hinz

Sales Representative – Leisure Marine

Sales & Projects

 

Tel.: +49 - (0)4101 - 838 214

Fax: +49 - (0)4101 – 838 111

B.Hinz@...

www.furuno.de

 

FURUNO DEUTSCHLAND GmbH

Siemensstr. 31-33

25462 Rellingen, Germany

District curt Pinneberg HRB 5881

Management Takahiro Sakurai, Muneyuki Koike, Kensuke Kubo, Shigenori Ametani


Benjamin is very knowledgeable of old Furuno equipment. He helped me with Navnet 3D last year.

Best Regards,
--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME
Re: Bilge Pump not self priming

Richie Whyte
 

Bill, Jean-Pierre, Courtney, Eloi, & Bill. Your advice is worth its weight in gold and has saved me plenty of hours and euro.

Many thanks.

Richie
Re: Lewmar 58 winch slipping

Patrick McAneny
 

Eric, The stripper is fine, it is not that the sheet is slipping around the drum , the drum is turning while under load allowing a few inches of the sheet to ease out, once I stop trimming it in. I am thinking it must be worn pawls or the teeth they engage. Just wondering if anyone has experienced this. Just spoke to a Lewmar technician,she didn’t have a clue.
Thanks,
Pat
Re: Lewmar 58 winch slipping

EricOpdeweegh
 

Hi Pat,

 

Is the stripper ring (no 10 in the enclosed drawing) not broken or damaged?

 

Regards

Eric Opdeweegh

Sv Abayomi SM 158

The Netherlands

Email     sv.abayomi@...

 

 

 

 

 

Van: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Namens Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Verzonden: dinsdag 22 februari 2022 14:35
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Onderwerp: [AmelYachtOwners] Lewmar 58 winch slipping

 

Recently one of our winches while under load on a close reach has turned counterclockwise a few inches,easing the sheet back out. The pawls seem to engage ,I can’t duplicate it while it is apart making it hard to pin point the problem. Any ideas as to why a winch would rotate and ease the sheet once you stop trimming it in?
Thanks,
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Georgetown, Bahamas

Re: Seacock Replacement Ball Valve in Head

Arlo Bess
 

Has anyone replaced the ball valve on the engine thru-hull yet? I am looking to replace mine. The part where the handle slips on is now rounded and does not engage with the handle properly and the valve allows more water in than I would like when closed.  I am trying to determine the proper size as I will need to special order for the British straight thread. While my vessel is a Mango, I cannot imagine it would be different than on a Maramu or early model Super Maramu. 

Thoughts?
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