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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Peter  we left Gocek this afternoon.  We are headed to Greek Islands, then Croatia, Montenegro,  and Albania. Nettuno, Italy for the winter...sorry,  we missed you again.

There is a great Swiss couple at Skopea Marina on Super Maramu Pitu...Maria and Willy...you should meet them. Also, Riza has added some people to his staff...I think you will like this.

CW Bill Rouse
BeBe 387
sent from my tablet


problem with drive unit leaking oil

Kostas Ioannidis <kostas_ioannidis@...>
 

Hi,

We are having a problem with the drive unit of our SM 29 of 1990.

For the past few years our drive unit has been leaking oil and taking in sea water. We change the seals at every haul out (every year). The amount of oil we loose and the amount of sea water that leaks in is very little. After about a month of cruising the oil changes colour.

Last year we even had oil leaking through the housing , through the fiberglass, at the very bottom of unit. We cleaned and applied Epoxy with fibre glass to completely covering the base. This year so far that seems to be OK.

We also replaced the engine mounts with original parts. The engine vibration is smoother but didn't solve the oil leakage problem.

This year at haul out the seal at the top of the unit, with the hull, was leaking oil. On inspection the seal appears to be in perfect condition!

Does anybody have any ideas how to solve the problem?
And has any body had any similar problems?

Helen and Kosta
'Meditation'


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Peter Forbes
 

I totally second or third that too. Bill you are an inspiration.

Vicky and I are out to Goçek on Thursday evening late - are you around?

Peter

Peter Forbes

07836 209730

On 21 Apr 2014, at 11:52, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...> wrote:

 

I will second that!
Stephanie & Ezio
SM353 indecent

Stephanie DiBelardino

On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Colin Streeter <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

 

Bill and Danny thanks a ton for your help.

Bill, I have to say you in particular are an absolute inspiration to so many of the others of us on this site with your never ending generosity of considered and detailed excellent advice which is always so very well set out and extremely helpful. Your reply here once again is yet another example of what I am referring to. In our view you are an absolute credit to this site and also to the wonderful wider Amel brand who by the way are now opening up two new boat sales agents in Australia. Over the past few months I have already spoken with some potential / prospective new boat customers (55's) about the huge value of advice and support to be found on this site. Despite there being just 4 or 5 other Australian based Amel's that we are aware of out here, because of this site in particular, and kind generous members like yourself, we have felt far better supported by the "Wider Amel Brand " since we purchased our Super Maramu 2000 than by any of our previous brands of yachts that we have owned, ie. Catalina, Jeanneau and Island Packet, all of which have actual sales outlets here in Australia. Thank you so much Bill and Judy, both Lauren and I do hope to be able to thank you appropriately in person some day should we ever be fortunate enough to sail into the same port as you.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, 2001 SM # 332
Brisbane, Australia





On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
 

Colin,

There is no suction in the system. 

There are 2 pumps: The water pump in the engine room pushes salt water to the toilet filling the bowel and the macerator pump on the toilet pushes everything in the bowel through a hose into holding tank. The hose connects at the bottom of the holding tank to a copper pipe which continues upward inside the tank to near the top of the holding tank.

The pump in the engine room can get clogged with small pieces of shell. This pump is easy to take apart and clean. Note that this pump probably has quick connections for the water hose...by sliding the locking lever to the outside, the hose bib disconnects from the pump housing. Be sure to mark polarity because these are DC motors and will turn in reverse and not work well if polarity is reversed...same polarity issue is true with the macerator pump on the toilet and could be your issue.

The macerator pump has two weaknesses. One is the nut securing the blade to the shaft. Jabsco distributed hundreds if not thousands these with bad stainless steel nuts which react to the stainless steel motor shaft and ruin the pump. Second is the seal. If the seal has started leaking, even a small occasional drip, it may be too late to overhaul with a seal kit. I have been very unlucky with seal overhaul kits because I have never gotten to it soon enough.

If the seal is leaking, my suggestion is to replace the entire pump. Make sure that the polarity is correct so that the blade works correctly. It will pump out if polarity is reversed, but the pump out will be very poor.

The line from the toilet to the holding tank is suspect if it has not been removed and cleaned or replaced in about 6 or 7 years. It will clog with crystallized urine and salt. The copper pipe which goes into the bottom of the holding tank and feeds the output to the top of the holding tank will also clog.

Go this this photo album and study all of the photos: 

I think that even though the Jabsco Quiet Flush has some issues, it may be the best for you. If you change it out, you may find that the new toilet will not match the mounting holes and studs. Additionally, you could have a clogged line and changing the toilet will be a frustrating and costly non-fix.

I do not recommend cleaning the lines, I recommend replacing them with the best sanitation hose you can find. Be sure to replace the joker valve on the back of the toilet where the exhaust line meets the toilet this keeps the flushed liquid from draining back into the toilet.

So bottom line here is what I would do:
  1. Open and clean the water supply pump located in the engine room. Be sure to mark orientation of each part as you take it apart.
  2. Replace the macerator pump completely. When mounting the new pump use some waterproof grease to hold the O ring in place or you will have a leak as this slips out of place easily. Also, before mounting the pump, loosen the nut on the new pump and apply Loctite then re-secure the nut.
  3. Ensure that polarity is correct before mounting the pump. push the button momentarily to see that the rotation of the blade is correct. The color code for wiring on the new pump is probably Orange on the pump = positive which is wired to Brown on the boat...then negative is Black on the pump to Blue on the boat.
  4. Replace all of the hose with the best sanitation hose that you can buy, but before you do, use the tool illustrated in the photos to ream out the copper pipe. Replace the joker valve.
If you do the above your cost will be about $300USD or less per toilet.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe #387


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
 

Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia


After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.






--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Yanmar parts

svnorthfork@...
 

Hi,

My husband is crossing the Atlantic and sent me a message that we need a new wet exhaust elbow for our Yanmar 4JH3-TE (I think 74hp) engine. I called a dealer who gave me two part options 129670-13561(0) which runs about $300.00 and the other 129470-13541 which runs about $1000.00. Has anyone replaced this part on this engine and have any ideas?

He said that there is a 12V solenoid that he believes amel added to the engine that needs replacing. He believes it isolates the engine when not in use and may be a Valejo CEV14 (or CEY14) 12VJOO but isn't sure. 

We also need the solenoid in the stern propane compartment. Any ideas what that is?

Any help would be greatly appreciated (thanks Bill on Bebe for already trying!)

Dana
SV Northfork (#331)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Thanks Kent
Nice to hear that Jabsco still appears to be a solid option after all these years. After all these helpful comments I think we will stay with what we have and follow all Bill's suggestions.
In terms of "suction" the macerator chops and turns the bowl contents around fine but nothing gets sucked out. Interestingly since replacing this macerator pump last time (3 months ago) this weekend was the first actual boating outing with guests on board since replacing it, and on reflection it has always sucked out too slowly since that replacement so I will follow Bill's suggestion that the polarity may be reversed, and hence not sucking properly. Will give this a try in the morning.
The other toilet has a leak, and here again I will take Bill's advice and go straight for a new macerator pump as the leak is now quite bad.
The hoses to the holding tanks were replaced fairly recently however we did not clean out the copper pipes into the holding tanks so that will also be a project for tomorrow.
Thanks a ton to you also Kent for your very frequent good advice on this site too. You guys are all so helpful to many of us more recent Amel converts and you should never forget that.
Happy sailing

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, 2001 SM #332
Brisbane Australia


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
 

Hi, Colin,
On SM243 I have the Jabsco Quiet Flush heads and haven't had any problems except the joker valves that keep the flushed material in the vertical pipe from leaking back into the bowl.  They are easy to change and last about a year.  I did have to replace the macerator pump once due to a leaky seal, but that one was at least 5 years old.  I'm not sure what you mean by "suction".  On Kristy, the macerator pump pumps the bowl material from the bowl through the macerator into the discharge pipe.  Is yours sucking air somehow that prevents it from emptying the bowl?
I'd recommend the Jabsco to anyone who asks...maybe there's another problem that you haven't identified yet???
Kent
SM243 Kristy



Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 2:56 AM

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

 
Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia

After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.







--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

karkauai
 

Amen, Amel.  And Gary and John and John and Eric and .... I could go on and on.
I could qualify for the most beginner questions and major problems posted...infamous, maybe?
Kent



From: Mark Erdos
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:38 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

 
Bill has my vote for top contributor! Heck, it was based on some of his advice that we purchased an Amel in the first place. Bill, you are a rock star!
 
 
Best regards,
 
Mark
 
SM2K #275
 
 
 
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Stephanie DiBelardino
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 6:52 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?
 
 
I will second that!
Stephanie & Ezio
SM353 indecent

Stephanie DiBelardino

On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Colin Streeter <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
 
Bill and Danny thanks a ton for your help.
 
Bill, I have to say you in particular are an absolute inspiration to so many of the others of us on this site with your never ending generosity of considered and detailed excellent advice which is always so very well set out and extremely helpful. Your reply here once again is yet another example of what I am referring to. In our view you are an absolute credit to this site and also to the wonderful wider Amel brand who by the way are now opening up two new boat sales agents in Australia. Over the past few months I have already spoken with some potential / prospective new boat customers (55's) about the huge value of advice and support to be found on this site. Despite there being just 4 or 5 other Australian based Amel's that we are aware of out here, because of this site in particular, and kind generous members like yourself, we have felt far better supported by the "Wider Amel Brand " since we purchased our Super Maramu 2000 than by any of our previous brands of yachts that we have owned, ie. Catalina, Jeanneau and Island Packet, all of which have actual sales outlets here in Australia. Thank you so much Bill and Judy, both Lauren and I do hope to be able to thank you appropriately in person some day should we ever be fortunate enough to sail into the same port as you.
 
Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, 2001 SM # 332
Brisbane, Australia
 
 
 
 
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
 
Colin,
 
There is no suction in the system. 
 
There are 2 pumps: The water pump in the engine room pushes salt water to the toilet filling the bowel and the macerator pump on the toilet pushes everything in the bowel through a hose into holding tank. The hose connects at the bottom of the holding tank to a copper pipe which continues upward inside the tank to near the top of the holding tank.
 
The pump in the engine room can get clogged with small pieces of shell. This pump is easy to take apart and clean. Note that this pump probably has quick connections for the water hose...by sliding the locking lever to the outside, the hose bib disconnects from the pump housing. Be sure to mark polarity because these are DC motors and will turn in reverse and not work well if polarity is reversed...same polarity issue is true with the macerator pump on the toilet and could be your issue.
 
The macerator pump has two weaknesses. One is the nut securing the blade to the shaft. Jabsco distributed hundreds if not thousands these with bad stainless steel nuts which react to the stainless steel motor shaft and ruin the pump. Second is the seal. If the seal has started leaking, even a small occasional drip, it may be too late to overhaul with a seal kit. I have been very unlucky with seal overhaul kits because I have never gotten to it soon enough.
 
If the seal is leaking, my suggestion is to replace the entire pump. Make sure that the polarity is correct so that the blade works correctly. It will pump out if polarity is reversed, but the pump out will be very poor.
 
The line from the toilet to the holding tank is suspect if it has not been removed and cleaned or replaced in about 6 or 7 years. It will clog with crystallized urine and salt. The copper pipe which goes into the bottom of the holding tank and feeds the output to the top of the holding tank will also clog.
 
Go this this photo album and study all of the photos: 
 
I think that even though the Jabsco Quiet Flush has some issues, it may be the best for you. If you change it out, you may find that the new toilet will not match the mounting holes and studs. Additionally, you could have a clogged line and changing the toilet will be a frustrating and costly non-fix.
 
I do not recommend cleaning the lines, I recommend replacing them with the best sanitation hose you can find. Be sure to replace the joker valve on the back of the toilet where the exhaust line meets the toilet this keeps the flushed liquid from draining back into the toilet.
 
So bottom line here is what I would do:
  1. Open and clean the water supply pump located in the engine room. Be sure to mark orientation of each part as you take it apart.
  2. Replace the macerator pump completely. When mounting the new pump use some waterproof grease to hold the O ring in place or you will have a leak as this slips out of place easily. Also, before mounting the pump, loosen the nut on the new pump and apply Loctite then re-secure the nut.
  3. Ensure that polarity is correct before mounting the pump. push the button momentarily to see that the rotation of the blade is correct. The color code for wiring on the new pump is probably Orange on the pump = positive which is wired to Brown on the boat...then negative is Black on the pump to Blue on the boat.
  4. Replace all of the hose with the best sanitation hose that you can buy, but before you do, use the tool illustrated in the photos to ream out the copper pipe. Replace the joker valve.
If you do the above your cost will be about $300USD or less per toilet.
 
I hope this helps you.
 
Bill
BeBe #387
 
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
 
Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia
 
After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.
 
Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.
 
Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..
 
Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

 
Happy sailing.
 
Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.
 
 
 


 
--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Mark Erdos
 

Bill has my vote for top contributor! Heck, it was based on some of his advice that we purchased an Amel in the first place. Bill, you are a rock star!

 

 

Best regards,

 

Mark

 

SM2K #275

www.creampuff.us

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Stephanie DiBelardino
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 6:52 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

 

 

I will second that!

Stephanie & Ezio

SM353 indecent

Stephanie DiBelardino


On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Colin Streeter <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

 

Bill and Danny thanks a ton for your help.

 

Bill, I have to say you in particular are an absolute inspiration to so many of the others of us on this site with your never ending generosity of considered and detailed excellent advice which is always so very well set out and extremely helpful. Your reply here once again is yet another example of what I am referring to. In our view you are an absolute credit to this site and also to the wonderful wider Amel brand who by the way are now opening up two new boat sales agents in Australia. Over the past few months I have already spoken with some potential / prospective new boat customers (55's) about the huge value of advice and support to be found on this site. Despite there being just 4 or 5 other Australian based Amel's that we are aware of out here, because of this site in particular, and kind generous members like yourself, we have felt far better supported by the "Wider Amel Brand " since we purchased our Super Maramu 2000 than by any of our previous brands of yachts that we have owned, ie. Catalina, Jeanneau and Island Packet, all of which have actual sales outlets here in Australia. Thank you so much Bill and Judy, both Lauren and I do hope to be able to thank you appropriately in person some day should we ever be fortunate enough to sail into the same port as you.

 

Colin & Lauren Streeter

Island Pearl II, 2001 SM # 332

Brisbane, Australia

 

 

 

 

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

Colin,

 

There is no suction in the system. 

 

There are 2 pumps: The water pump in the engine room pushes salt water to the toilet filling the bowel and the macerator pump on the toilet pushes everything in the bowel through a hose into holding tank. The hose connects at the bottom of the holding tank to a copper pipe which continues upward inside the tank to near the top of the holding tank.

 

The pump in the engine room can get clogged with small pieces of shell. This pump is easy to take apart and clean. Note that this pump probably has quick connections for the water hose...by sliding the locking lever to the outside, the hose bib disconnects from the pump housing. Be sure to mark polarity because these are DC motors and will turn in reverse and not work well if polarity is reversed...same polarity issue is true with the macerator pump on the toilet and could be your issue.

 

The macerator pump has two weaknesses. One is the nut securing the blade to the shaft. Jabsco distributed hundreds if not thousands these with bad stainless steel nuts which react to the stainless steel motor shaft and ruin the pump. Second is the seal. If the seal has started leaking, even a small occasional drip, it may be too late to overhaul with a seal kit. I have been very unlucky with seal overhaul kits because I have never gotten to it soon enough.

 

If the seal is leaking, my suggestion is to replace the entire pump. Make sure that the polarity is correct so that the blade works correctly. It will pump out if polarity is reversed, but the pump out will be very poor.

 

The line from the toilet to the holding tank is suspect if it has not been removed and cleaned or replaced in about 6 or 7 years. It will clog with crystallized urine and salt. The copper pipe which goes into the bottom of the holding tank and feeds the output to the top of the holding tank will also clog.

 

Go this this photo album and study all of the photos: 

 

I think that even though the Jabsco Quiet Flush has some issues, it may be the best for you. If you change it out, you may find that the new toilet will not match the mounting holes and studs. Additionally, you could have a clogged line and changing the toilet will be a frustrating and costly non-fix.

 

I do not recommend cleaning the lines, I recommend replacing them with the best sanitation hose you can find. Be sure to replace the joker valve on the back of the toilet where the exhaust line meets the toilet this keeps the flushed liquid from draining back into the toilet.

 

So bottom line here is what I would do:

  1. Open and clean the water supply pump located in the engine room. Be sure to mark orientation of each part as you take it apart.
  2. Replace the macerator pump completely. When mounting the new pump use some waterproof grease to hold the O ring in place or you will have a leak as this slips out of place easily. Also, before mounting the pump, loosen the nut on the new pump and apply Loctite then re-secure the nut.
  3. Ensure that polarity is correct before mounting the pump. push the button momentarily to see that the rotation of the blade is correct. The color code for wiring on the new pump is probably Orange on the pump = positive which is wired to Brown on the boat...then negative is Black on the pump to Blue on the boat.
  4. Replace all of the hose with the best sanitation hose that you can buy, but before you do, use the tool illustrated in the photos to ream out the copper pipe. Replace the joker valve.

If you do the above your cost will be about $300USD or less per toilet.

 

I hope this helps you.

 

Bill

BeBe #387

 

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

 

Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia

 

After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

 

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

 

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

 

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

 

Happy sailing.

 

Colin & Lauren Streeter

Island Pearl II, SM #332

Brisbane, Australia

.

 

 

 



 

--

Colin Streeter

0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

karkauai
 

Hi, Colin,
On SM243 I have the Jabsco Quiet Flush heads and haven't had any problems except the joker valves that keep the flushed material in the vertical pipe from leaking back into the bowl.  They are easy to change and last about a year.  I did have to replace the macerator pump once due to a leaky seal, but that one was at least 5 years old.  I'm not sure what you mean by "suction".  On Kristy, the macerator pump pumps the bowl material from the bowl through the macerator into the discharge pipe.  Is yours sucking air somehow that prevents it from emptying the bowl?
I'd recommend the Jabsco to anyone who asks...maybe there's another problem that you haven't identified yet???
Kent
SM243 Kristy



From: "colin.d.streeter@..."
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 2:56 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

 
Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia

After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

I will second that!
Stephanie & Ezio
SM353 indecent

Stephanie DiBelardino

On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:48 AM, Colin Streeter <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:

 

Bill and Danny thanks a ton for your help.

Bill, I have to say you in particular are an absolute inspiration to so many of the others of us on this site with your never ending generosity of considered and detailed excellent advice which is always so very well set out and extremely helpful. Your reply here once again is yet another example of what I am referring to. In our view you are an absolute credit to this site and also to the wonderful wider Amel brand who by the way are now opening up two new boat sales agents in Australia. Over the past few months I have already spoken with some potential / prospective new boat customers (55's) about the huge value of advice and support to be found on this site. Despite there being just 4 or 5 other Australian based Amel's that we are aware of out here, because of this site in particular, and kind generous members like yourself, we have felt far better supported by the "Wider Amel Brand " since we purchased our Super Maramu 2000 than by any of our previous brands of yachts that we have owned, ie. Catalina, Jeanneau and Island Packet, all of which have actual sales outlets here in Australia. Thank you so much Bill and Judy, both Lauren and I do hope to be able to thank you appropriately in person some day should we ever be fortunate enough to sail into the same port as you.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, 2001 SM # 332
Brisbane, Australia





On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
 

Colin,

There is no suction in the system. 

There are 2 pumps: The water pump in the engine room pushes salt water to the toilet filling the bowel and the macerator pump on the toilet pushes everything in the bowel through a hose into holding tank. The hose connects at the bottom of the holding tank to a copper pipe which continues upward inside the tank to near the top of the holding tank.

The pump in the engine room can get clogged with small pieces of shell. This pump is easy to take apart and clean. Note that this pump probably has quick connections for the water hose...by sliding the locking lever to the outside, the hose bib disconnects from the pump housing. Be sure to mark polarity because these are DC motors and will turn in reverse and not work well if polarity is reversed...same polarity issue is true with the macerator pump on the toilet and could be your issue.

The macerator pump has two weaknesses. One is the nut securing the blade to the shaft. Jabsco distributed hundreds if not thousands these with bad stainless steel nuts which react to the stainless steel motor shaft and ruin the pump. Second is the seal. If the seal has started leaking, even a small occasional drip, it may be too late to overhaul with a seal kit. I have been very unlucky with seal overhaul kits because I have never gotten to it soon enough.

If the seal is leaking, my suggestion is to replace the entire pump. Make sure that the polarity is correct so that the blade works correctly. It will pump out if polarity is reversed, but the pump out will be very poor.

The line from the toilet to the holding tank is suspect if it has not been removed and cleaned or replaced in about 6 or 7 years. It will clog with crystallized urine and salt. The copper pipe which goes into the bottom of the holding tank and feeds the output to the top of the holding tank will also clog.

Go this this photo album and study all of the photos: 

I think that even though the Jabsco Quiet Flush has some issues, it may be the best for you. If you change it out, you may find that the new toilet will not match the mounting holes and studs. Additionally, you could have a clogged line and changing the toilet will be a frustrating and costly non-fix.

I do not recommend cleaning the lines, I recommend replacing them with the best sanitation hose you can find. Be sure to replace the joker valve on the back of the toilet where the exhaust line meets the toilet this keeps the flushed liquid from draining back into the toilet.

So bottom line here is what I would do:
  1. Open and clean the water supply pump located in the engine room. Be sure to mark orientation of each part as you take it apart.
  2. Replace the macerator pump completely. When mounting the new pump use some waterproof grease to hold the O ring in place or you will have a leak as this slips out of place easily. Also, before mounting the pump, loosen the nut on the new pump and apply Loctite then re-secure the nut.
  3. Ensure that polarity is correct before mounting the pump. push the button momentarily to see that the rotation of the blade is correct. The color code for wiring on the new pump is probably Orange on the pump = positive which is wired to Brown on the boat...then negative is Black on the pump to Blue on the boat.
  4. Replace all of the hose with the best sanitation hose that you can buy, but before you do, use the tool illustrated in the photos to ream out the copper pipe. Replace the joker valve.
If you do the above your cost will be about $300USD or less per toilet.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe #387


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
 

Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia


After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.






--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Bill and Danny thanks a ton for your help.

Bill, I have to say you in particular are an absolute inspiration to so many of the others of us on this site with your never ending generosity of considered and detailed excellent advice which is always so very well set out and extremely helpful. Your reply here once again is yet another example of what I am referring to. In our view you are an absolute credit to this site and also to the wonderful wider Amel brand who by the way are now opening up two new boat sales agents in Australia. Over the past few months I have already spoken with some potential / prospective new boat customers (55's) about the huge value of advice and support to be found on this site. Despite there being just 4 or 5 other Australian based Amel's that we are aware of out here, because of this site in particular, and kind generous members like yourself, we have felt far better supported by the "Wider Amel Brand " since we purchased our Super Maramu 2000 than by any of our previous brands of yachts that we have owned, ie. Catalina, Jeanneau and Island Packet, all of which have actual sales outlets here in Australia. Thank you so much Bill and Judy, both Lauren and I do hope to be able to thank you appropriately in person some day should we ever be fortunate enough to sail into the same port as you.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, 2001 SM # 332
Brisbane, Australia





On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

 

Colin,

There is no suction in the system. 

There are 2 pumps: The water pump in the engine room pushes salt water to the toilet filling the bowel and the macerator pump on the toilet pushes everything in the bowel through a hose into holding tank. The hose connects at the bottom of the holding tank to a copper pipe which continues upward inside the tank to near the top of the holding tank.

The pump in the engine room can get clogged with small pieces of shell. This pump is easy to take apart and clean. Note that this pump probably has quick connections for the water hose...by sliding the locking lever to the outside, the hose bib disconnects from the pump housing. Be sure to mark polarity because these are DC motors and will turn in reverse and not work well if polarity is reversed...same polarity issue is true with the macerator pump on the toilet and could be your issue.

The macerator pump has two weaknesses. One is the nut securing the blade to the shaft. Jabsco distributed hundreds if not thousands these with bad stainless steel nuts which react to the stainless steel motor shaft and ruin the pump. Second is the seal. If the seal has started leaking, even a small occasional drip, it may be too late to overhaul with a seal kit. I have been very unlucky with seal overhaul kits because I have never gotten to it soon enough.

If the seal is leaking, my suggestion is to replace the entire pump. Make sure that the polarity is correct so that the blade works correctly. It will pump out if polarity is reversed, but the pump out will be very poor.

The line from the toilet to the holding tank is suspect if it has not been removed and cleaned or replaced in about 6 or 7 years. It will clog with crystallized urine and salt. The copper pipe which goes into the bottom of the holding tank and feeds the output to the top of the holding tank will also clog.

Go this this photo album and study all of the photos: 

I think that even though the Jabsco Quiet Flush has some issues, it may be the best for you. If you change it out, you may find that the new toilet will not match the mounting holes and studs. Additionally, you could have a clogged line and changing the toilet will be a frustrating and costly non-fix.

I do not recommend cleaning the lines, I recommend replacing them with the best sanitation hose you can find. Be sure to replace the joker valve on the back of the toilet where the exhaust line meets the toilet this keeps the flushed liquid from draining back into the toilet.

So bottom line here is what I would do:
  1. Open and clean the water supply pump located in the engine room. Be sure to mark orientation of each part as you take it apart.
  2. Replace the macerator pump completely. When mounting the new pump use some waterproof grease to hold the O ring in place or you will have a leak as this slips out of place easily. Also, before mounting the pump, loosen the nut on the new pump and apply Loctite then re-secure the nut.
  3. Ensure that polarity is correct before mounting the pump. push the button momentarily to see that the rotation of the blade is correct. The color code for wiring on the new pump is probably Orange on the pump = positive which is wired to Brown on the boat...then negative is Black on the pump to Blue on the boat.
  4. Replace all of the hose with the best sanitation hose that you can buy, but before you do, use the tool illustrated in the photos to ream out the copper pipe. Replace the joker valve.
If you do the above your cost will be about $300USD or less per toilet.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe #387


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
 

Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia


After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.






--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Colin,

There is no suction in the system. 

There are 2 pumps: The water pump in the engine room pushes salt water to the toilet filling the bowel and the macerator pump on the toilet pushes everything in the bowel through a hose into holding tank. The hose connects at the bottom of the holding tank to a copper pipe which continues upward inside the tank to near the top of the holding tank.

The pump in the engine room can get clogged with small pieces of shell. This pump is easy to take apart and clean. Note that this pump probably has quick connections for the water hose...by sliding the locking lever to the outside, the hose bib disconnects from the pump housing. Be sure to mark polarity because these are DC motors and will turn in reverse and not work well if polarity is reversed...same polarity issue is true with the macerator pump on the toilet and could be your issue.

The macerator pump has two weaknesses. One is the nut securing the blade to the shaft. Jabsco distributed hundreds if not thousands these with bad stainless steel nuts which react to the stainless steel motor shaft and ruin the pump. Second is the seal. If the seal has started leaking, even a small occasional drip, it may be too late to overhaul with a seal kit. I have been very unlucky with seal overhaul kits because I have never gotten to it soon enough.

If the seal is leaking, my suggestion is to replace the entire pump. Make sure that the polarity is correct so that the blade works correctly. It will pump out if polarity is reversed, but the pump out will be very poor.

The line from the toilet to the holding tank is suspect if it has not been removed and cleaned or replaced in about 6 or 7 years. It will clog with crystallized urine and salt. The copper pipe which goes into the bottom of the holding tank and feeds the output to the top of the holding tank will also clog.

Go this this photo album and study all of the photos: 

I think that even though the Jabsco Quiet Flush has some issues, it may be the best for you. If you change it out, you may find that the new toilet will not match the mounting holes and studs. Additionally, you could have a clogged line and changing the toilet will be a frustrating and costly non-fix.

I do not recommend cleaning the lines, I recommend replacing them with the best sanitation hose you can find. Be sure to replace the joker valve on the back of the toilet where the exhaust line meets the toilet this keeps the flushed liquid from draining back into the toilet.

So bottom line here is what I would do:
  1. Open and clean the water supply pump located in the engine room. Be sure to mark orientation of each part as you take it apart.
  2. Replace the macerator pump completely. When mounting the new pump use some waterproof grease to hold the O ring in place or you will have a leak as this slips out of place easily. Also, before mounting the pump, loosen the nut on the new pump and apply Loctite then re-secure the nut.
  3. Ensure that polarity is correct before mounting the pump. push the button momentarily to see that the rotation of the blade is correct. The color code for wiring on the new pump is probably Orange on the pump = positive which is wired to Brown on the boat...then negative is Black on the pump to Blue on the boat.
  4. Replace all of the hose with the best sanitation hose that you can buy, but before you do, use the tool illustrated in the photos to ream out the copper pipe. Replace the joker valve.
If you do the above your cost will be about $300USD or less per toilet.

I hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe #387


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:56 AM, <colin.d.streeter@...> wrote:
 

Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia


After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Colin,
In late October early November 2009 we were anchored in Annapolis, Chesapeake Bay, in company with 4 or 5 other Amels, mostly SM.. We had a gathering aboard Ocean Pearl one drinks o'clock evening. The first hour of conversation was blocked toilets. However mostly focused on problems keeping the delivery pipe from the toilet to the holding tank clear or avoiding/clearing scale build up in that pipe or in the holding tank.  
Since replacing both macerators and seals around then we have had no leakage problems and they have operated well. One exception, Yvonne liked to dispose of used dental floss in the toilet. This wrapped around the macerator blades, result no movement of "product". The blades seem to be the movement factor, the spinning creates the momentum.  However the delivery pipe is another matter. Best protection there is long flushes, the longer the better. If visitors cannot be trusted to do this, once a day give each head a flush of say two minutes (or more).
I would be surprised if another model would do better, they all succumb to user error.
If you want a smile, in the forum photos you will find my photo of clearing the outlet from the holding tank while under way at 8 to 9 knots  
Cheers
Danny
Another Antipodean Amel
SM 299 Ocean Pearl.
Mangonui
New Zealand 
From: "colin.d.streeter@..."
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, 21 April 2014 6:56 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?
 
Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia

After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.



Toilet/Heads replacement - any suggested brands/models?

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Firstly, Seasons greetings to all the Amel family from sunny Australia

After doing repairs for the 2nd time on our Jabsco toilet I have had enough and am looking to replace the original Jabsco Silent Flush electric heads on our 2001 Super Maramu hopefully with something better.

Our problems tend to be leaking seals and/or no suction. Never problems with the macerators though, just suction.

Yes, these can be repaired, and yes, some of our guests may have done the wrong thing in what was flushed down the loo but we were just wondering if any other Amel owners out there had also got tired of constant toilet fixing and replaced the older factory fitted toilets with something new that both fitted and gives less problems? In Australia we appear to be limited to just the following 3 brands, ie. Jabsco, TMC and Planus..

Makes and model numbers would be a good discussion point for us now and any other members who wanted to upgrade to something better in the future..

Happy sailing.

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, SM #332
Brisbane, Australia
.



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Photos of Electrical panels,

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

Bill ,

Thanks

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Bill & Judy Rouse
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 1:09 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Photos of Electrical panels,

 

 

done

 

Bill

BeBe

 

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:16 AM, sailormon <kimberlite@...> wrote:

 

I recall there were some photos of electrical panels in one of my owners books, but I do not have them here.

I am having someone go aboard before  I arrive and I wanted to make him familiar with the ac and dc panels.

Would someone please send me the photos, or reference a location on the AMEL site.

My email is Kimberlite@...

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Photos of Electrical panels,

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

done

Bill
BeBe


On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 2:16 AM, sailormon <kimberlite@...> wrote:
 

I recall there were some photos of electrical panels in one of my owners books, but I do not have them here.

I am having someone go aboard before  I arrive and I wanted to make him familiar with the ac and dc panels.

Would someone please send me the photos, or reference a location on the AMEL site.

My email is Kimberlite@...

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376



Photos of Electrical panels,

sailormon <kimberlite@...>
 

I recall there were some photos of electrical panels in one of my owners books, but I do not have them here.

I am having someone go aboard before  I arrive and I wanted to make him familiar with the ac and dc panels.

Would someone please send me the photos, or reference a location on the AMEL site.

My email is Kimberlite@...

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite SM 376


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

karkauai
 

Oops That was supposed to be a reply to another email. Sorry.
Kent


On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:36 PM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone have the phone number to call to join the meeting tomorrow?
Mahalo
Kent


On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:19 PM, sailw32@... wrote:

 

Kent,  You & Dawn are more than welcome to stay on are boat ,if you would like. Richard will be driving in and offered to drive anyone back over to St. M. to retrieve cars , if you wanted to sail over to Annapolis, assuming the group wants to do that. Pat
 
In a message dated 4/18/2014 11:20:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, karkauai@... writes:
 

Sounds great, Pat and Diane.  I think Dawn and I will be there without a boat, as we still want to go South for a few weeks in May if we get the CDrive repaired in time, rather than take Kristy up to the Chessy.  We'll look into getting a B & B in St Michaels and bring the paddle boards and/or inflatable kayak as a way to move about on the water...too bad I don't have my Duck Trap Wherry built yet, that would be perfect.

I'm really looking forward to meeting everyone and putting some names, faces, and boats together.

Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
On the hard in Fernandina Beach, FL



From: "sailw32@..." <sailw32@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:50 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

 
Considering all the possible locations for a rendezvous and the requirements of adequate anchorage ,scenic surroundings , restaurants , etc. I have come to the conclusion that St. Michaels best fits the bill. I thought the weekend of July 11-13 would be far enough out to allow everyone to make plans. It also allows Aletes to get back from their trip to Maine in June and should fall within the small window , between Kent resolving his present problems and his future problems . Here is a suggested itinerary ,subject to changes made by the group. Everyone tries to arrive by the late afternoon on Friday the 11th or earlier . We would all anchor just outside the harbor along the SW shoreline . Saturday about 11:30 - noon , Diane and I would invite everyone aboard for a pot luck lunch . We have had as many as 20 aboard before for dinner and it worked fine, we lined the food up on the aft deck buffet style and people sit along the decks and cockpit. If we have more people we could raft another boat alongside, although I am not a big fan of rafting. After lunch everybody or anybody who would like ,could send the day ashore visiting the maritime museum , brewery , walk/shop in the beautiful little town. Then around 5 pm. we would gather again on our boat or another boat for cocktails. We would then about 6:30 pm. dinghy in to dinner at the Crab Claw restaurant ,  which can accommodate large groups. One thing , they do not take credit cards , so have cash, I wonder why. Then Sunday if the group wanted , we would leave Sunday morning and have a rally down the Eastern Bay and over to Annapolis , where we would anchor in front of the Academy . There is always dinghy races and much to watch. We could have cocktails ,then do whatever people want, dine aboard , ashore whatever. Monday morning we go our separate ways or maybe some will sail south together ,or stay longer and enjoy Annapolis. Here is a list of owners to date that expressed their plans to attend, if you are not on the list ,yet and want to join us contact me. Aletes - Mike & Lauren , Shenanigans - Pat & Diane , TBD - Gary & Robin , Bali Hai - Ric , Indecent - Stephanie , Lone Star - Craig & Jan , Kristy - Kent , TBD - Eric & Viki , Moon Dog - John & Ruth , No Boat - Richard , Atman - Velt , Brevis - Sherman , Fiasco - Aras , So right now it looks like we have 12 boats planning to attend . Diane and I thought if we had half that many it would a great success and lots of fun. If anyone else would like to join us , please contact me at sailw32@... , or if you have comments , so as to keep the site free. Looking forward to meeting everyone , it should be fun!
                                                                                                   Smooth Sailing,
                                                                                                     Pat & Diane
                                                                                                   Shenanigans
 
In a message dated 4/18/2014 3:10:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, contact@... writes:
 
Hello, dear Amel yacht owners, We are leaving from France To Croatia next week. If you need parts from France, do not hesitate To contact us. We can bring some parts with us. We will be at Dubrovnik and its area. Best regards, Severine and Gilles, Karinteam



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

karkauai
 

Does anyone have the phone number to call to join the meeting tomorrow?
Mahalo
Kent


On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:19 PM, sailw32@... wrote:

 

Kent,  You & Dawn are more than welcome to stay on are boat ,if you would like. Richard will be driving in and offered to drive anyone back over to St. M. to retrieve cars , if you wanted to sail over to Annapolis, assuming the group wants to do that. Pat
 
In a message dated 4/18/2014 11:20:44 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, karkauai@... writes:
 

Sounds great, Pat and Diane.  I think Dawn and I will be there without a boat, as we still want to go South for a few weeks in May if we get the CDrive repaired in time, rather than take Kristy up to the Chessy.  We'll look into getting a B & B in St Michaels and bring the paddle boards and/or inflatable kayak as a way to move about on the water...too bad I don't have my Duck Trap Wherry built yet, that would be perfect.

I'm really looking forward to meeting everyone and putting some names, faces, and boats together.

Steady as she goes.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
On the hard in Fernandina Beach, FL



From: "sailw32@..." <sailw32@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 8:50 AM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chesapeake Bay Rendezvous

 
Considering all the possible locations for a rendezvous and the requirements of adequate anchorage ,scenic surroundings , restaurants , etc. I have come to the conclusion that St. Michaels best fits the bill. I thought the weekend of July 11-13 would be far enough out to allow everyone to make plans. It also allows Aletes to get back from their trip to Maine in June and should fall within the small window , between Kent resolving his present problems and his future problems . Here is a suggested itinerary ,subject to changes made by the group. Everyone tries to arrive by the late afternoon on Friday the 11th or earlier . We would all anchor just outside the harbor along the SW shoreline . Saturday about 11:30 - noon , Diane and I would invite everyone aboard for a pot luck lunch . We have had as many as 20 aboard before for dinner and it worked fine, we lined the food up on the aft deck buffet style and people sit along the decks and cockpit. If we have more people we could raft another boat alongside, although I am not a big fan of rafting. After lunch everybody or anybody who would like ,could send the day ashore visiting the maritime museum , brewery , walk/shop in the beautiful little town. Then around 5 pm. we would gather again on our boat or another boat for cocktails. We would then about 6:30 pm. dinghy in to dinner at the Crab Claw restaurant ,  which can accommodate large groups. One thing , they do not take credit cards , so have cash, I wonder why. Then Sunday if the group wanted , we would leave Sunday morning and have a rally down the Eastern Bay and over to Annapolis , where we would anchor in front of the Academy . There is always dinghy races and much to watch. We could have cocktails ,then do whatever people want, dine aboard , ashore whatever. Monday morning we go our separate ways or maybe some will sail south together ,or stay longer and enjoy Annapolis. Here is a list of owners to date that expressed their plans to attend, if you are not on the list ,yet and want to join us contact me. Aletes - Mike & Lauren , Shenanigans - Pat & Diane , TBD - Gary & Robin , Bali Hai - Ric , Indecent - Stephanie , Lone Star - Craig & Jan , Kristy - Kent , TBD - Eric & Viki , Moon Dog - John & Ruth , No Boat - Richard , Atman - Velt , Brevis - Sherman , Fiasco - Aras , So right now it looks like we have 12 boats planning to attend . Diane and I thought if we had half that many it would a great success and lots of fun. If anyone else would like to join us , please contact me at sailw32@... , or if you have comments , so as to keep the site free. Looking forward to meeting everyone , it should be fun!
                                                                                                   Smooth Sailing,
                                                                                                     Pat & Diane
                                                                                                   Shenanigans
 
In a message dated 4/18/2014 3:10:20 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, contact@... writes:
 
Hello, dear Amel yacht owners, We are leaving from France To Croatia next week. If you need parts from France, do not hesitate To contact us. We can bring some parts with us. We will be at Dubrovnik and its area. Best regards, Severine and Gilles, Karinteam



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Owner's Manual old Maramu

Jean-Pierre Henkart <jhenkart@...>
 


Re: Owner's Manual old Maramu

rossny@mail.com
 

Jean-Pierre, Congradulations!!! No there is not one to send. We purchased Maramu hull #261 from 1989.  When we looked through the piles of records that the previous owner left us the closest that was found was a loose leaf binder with photo copied notes (in french) and hand drawn schetches of some of the wiring. I also found original blueprint drawings. of top and profile views of the boat. If you do not have these I could copy/photograph  and email them to you. I have modernized or replaced almost all the systems on the boat in the last couple of years and crawled into every nook and cranny (boat yoga), so if you have a question specific to the old maramu model I will try to help. If your questions are more general or Amel related then you should ask the group as they are way more qualified sailors than I am and some of them have owned the older models before stepping up to the supers and beyond and have experience with the Amel way of boating. Also, for the last word on Amel in the Americas, ask Joel Potter, he knows it all. Most systems are different then other boats, do not change anything untill you understand why the factory did it that way. What hull # are you? Where is your Maramu?
Hope this helps, 
Ross