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Re: Introduction and gennaker/ballooner querry

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi David;

 

Welcome to the Amel Family. We are sister ships. You’ll find all Amels a great yacht that will provide many years of enjoyable use.

 

On the A54, the Gennaker is hoisted with a  separate halyard and the base of the furler is attached to one of the two shackles forward of the Genoa, depending on the tack. The Gennaker is not hoisted along with the Genoa, as the Gennaker sheets will utilize the Genoa sheet block and must be exchanged prior to setting the Gennaker.

 

The following are the steps we use:

 

  1. Furl the Genoa
  2. While still in the bow locker, attach the base of the Gennaker furler to the shackle forward of the Genoa, on the proper tack.
  3. Attach the Gennaker halyard (The halyard that has a block at the forward top of the main mast and is run exterior of the mast) to the head of the Gennaker, while still in the forward locker.
  4. With both the tack and head attached and the Gennaker furled, raise the Gennaker being careful with the roller furler not to damage the deck. Tension the halyard well, once raised.
  5. Attach the loop furler line to the cleat near the bow and make sure the block is locked so the Gennaker cannot unfurl while routing the Gennaker sheet aft.
  6. Remove the Genoa Sheet and store near the base of the Genoa, making sure it is secure.
  7. Run the Gennaker sheet through the Genoa block back to the main winch in the cockpit.
  8. Double and triple check to make sure all line and halyard are routed correctly and there will be no interference when the Gennaker is set. Also check to make sure the furler line is routed correctly in the furler.
  9. Release the Gennaker furler block lock and start sheeting in the Gennaker sheet. The Gennaker will catch the wind and start unfurling by itself, after the first few rolls.
  10. To furl back in, release the Gennaker sheet and fall off the wind and let the main sail provide some wind shadow to make the furling easier. Make sure you get several loops around the Gennaker. You can remove and store the in the locker in the reverse steps or just leave up, for future use.

 

Let me know if you have specific questions.

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 10:53 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io; David Dickman <jdd91656@...>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Introduction and gennaker/ballooner querry

 

Hi David, The Amel owners Manuel for the SM has detailed illustrated instructions, I would expect the 54 to have the same.

Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 01/03/2022 14:07 David Dickman <jdd91656@...> wrote:

 

 

Hello fellow Amelians:

   My name is David Dickman and I was fortunate in being able to recently purchase Amel 54 #100 (previously GalacSea II).  The previous owners, the Halphens, were superb caretakers and the boat is exquisite. 

 

    The new name of the boat is GALINI and I am confident she will fulfill her new namesake for many years to come.

 

     My query regards the use: hoist and dousing of the ballooner/gennaker sail in tandem with the genoa.  I have a 3 track foil and have researched this question on the forum and web in general.  I understand the concept of the two slides, as well as the hook/catch system, but am leary of trying it without further insight.  Thus, I am asking if anyone has a detailed instruction quide to same they would be willing to share.

 

    Thanks for any help you can provide; thrilled to be in same company of such fine sailors.

 

Best,

    David

Re: Several Important things that you will want

Arno Luijten
 

Dear Bill,

You should know better: Nothing is forever on a boat! Even not on an Amel! 

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique
Re: Introduction and gennaker/ballooner querry

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi David, The Amel owners Manuel for the SM has detailed illustrated instructions, I would expect the 54 to have the same.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean Pearl

On 01/03/2022 14:07 David Dickman <jdd91656@...> wrote:


Hello fellow Amelians:
   My name is David Dickman and I was fortunate in being able to recently purchase Amel 54 #100 (previously GalacSea II).  The previous owners, the Halphens, were superb caretakers and the boat is exquisite. 

    The new name of the boat is GALINI and I am confident she will fulfill her new namesake for many years to come.

     My query regards the use: hoist and dousing of the ballooner/gennaker sail in tandem with the genoa.  I have a 3 track foil and have researched this question on the forum and web in general.  I understand the concept of the two slides, as well as the hook/catch system, but am leary of trying it without further insight.  Thus, I am asking if anyone has a detailed instruction quide to same they would be willing to share.

    Thanks for any help you can provide; thrilled to be in same company of such fine sailors.

Best,
    David

Re: A54 Polar

CW Bill Rouse
 

Thanks

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, 10:46 Roque <ediroque@...> wrote:
This is the one I use. I cannot confirm it is official or totally accurate.

Hope it helps

Roque
Attika A54 # 117

Em ter., 1 de mar. de 2022 às 13:29, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> escreveu:
I do not see A54 Polar in the Files section. If you have a copy, there is a 54 owner in need. Either add it to files or email it to me and I will send it to the owner and add it to Files. brouse@...

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


--
Roque
Attika A54 117
Paraty - Brazil 

Re: A54 Polar

Roque
 

This is the one I use. I cannot confirm it is official or totally accurate.

Hope it helps

Roque
Attika A54 # 117

Em ter., 1 de mar. de 2022 às 13:29, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> escreveu:

I do not see A54 Polar in the Files section. If you have a copy, there is a 54 owner in need. Either add it to files or email it to me and I will send it to the owner and add it to Files. brouse@...

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


--
Roque
Attika A54 117
Paraty - Brazil 

PDF
Polar Amel 54.pdf

Re: Insurance

CW Bill Rouse
 

We too used Velos in the Med, through the London office. Ours was a US Flagged, US owned SM. We received permission to continue cover in the Caribbean, excluding US waters.

Things change frequently with insurance companies. What worked yesterday may not be available today. 

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, 10:24 Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

We are covered by Velos Marine Insurance Specialties out of London, underwritten by Great Lakes Insurance SE. The following is verbiage from the insurance certificate:

 

This Certificate is issued in accordance with the authorisation as per Agreement Reference B0878AYA20211000 to Global Yacht Cover effected through Alwen Hough Johnson Limited as a sub cover holder of Munich Re Risk Solutions Ireland with granted Binding Authority agreement on behalf of Great Lakes Insurance SE.

 

My dealings with the Broker in London has been very pleasant, professional, knowledgeable and prompt. No claims, so I cannot speak to that part of the equation.

 

 

Velos Insurance Services Ltd

5th Floor,

81 Southwark St,

London,

SE1 0HX

We are US flagged currently cruising the Mediterranean

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck_Kim_Joy via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:17 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Thank you for all who recommended insurance. I have reached reached out for quotes yesterday and am waiting to hear back. I'll let you know. 

All the best from the Caribbean!

 

Chuck and Kim

Joy 388

 

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:50 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:

I've posted this information before so it may be redundant to some folks.
After Irma hit the Caribbean in 2017, several underwriters refused claims, raised their rates and put extreme restrictions in their policies.
My insurer who I had my policy  now refused to write policies on US flagged vessels.
After much research I discovered Netherlands Insurance Ltd. Their base is in Holland and their main office is in Grenada. They have insured large fieght vessels for many years and have just started writing  policies for smaller (less than 60 meters) vessels. They are the underwriters, no brokers are involved. They are more expensive but well worth the extra fees. The policy is very clear and understandable. They cover lightening, rig loss and clearly define the problems that we, as boat owners would question.
Their area of covcerage is "world wide"!  No hurricane boxes. They offer as standard 2% deductable on any loss and 4% for damage occuring during a named storm.
My policy costs me $6000.00 US  a year for a hull valuation of 268,000 Euros. I sleep well at night.
If you want any specific information on my poilicy please contact me directly.
Cheers
Bill R
Cloudstreet SM2K 331 - Martinique
The contact information for the company is


Netherlands Insurance Company (WI) Ltd
Netherlands Building,
Grand Anse, P. O. Box 880,
St. George’s, Grenada, West Indies.
Voice +1-473-444-3012
Fax +1-473-444-2853
E-mail info@...

 

 

Re: Introduction and question wrt stay-sail and running rigging

CW Bill Rouse
 

You should also check closely how the previous owner attached the non-Amel staysail to the deck. Most that I have seen have either used a backing plate on the balsa-cored deck, attached it to the windlass, or they added a chain plate to the divider between the two sail lockers. None of these are adequate for the loads you might have. The first Amel made specifically for a staysail was the A54.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Tue, Mar 1, 2022, 09:13 Gerhard Mueller via groups.io <carcode=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Usually there is a stay between main and mizzen.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently North Sea, Germany

A54 Polar

CW Bill Rouse
 

I do not see A54 Polar in the Files section. If you have a copy, there is a 54 owner in need. Either add it to files or email it to me and I will send it to the owner and add it to Files. brouse@...

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

Re: Insurance

Mohammad Shirloo
 

We are covered by Velos Marine Insurance Specialties out of London, underwritten by Great Lakes Insurance SE. The following is verbiage from the insurance certificate:

 

This Certificate is issued in accordance with the authorisation as per Agreement Reference B0878AYA20211000 to Global Yacht Cover effected through Alwen Hough Johnson Limited as a sub cover holder of Munich Re Risk Solutions Ireland with granted Binding Authority agreement on behalf of Great Lakes Insurance SE.

 

My dealings with the Broker in London has been very pleasant, professional, knowledgeable and prompt. No claims, so I cannot speak to that part of the equation.

 

 

Velos Insurance Services Ltd

5th Floor,

81 Southwark St,

London,

SE1 0HX

We are US flagged currently cruising the Mediterranean

 

Happy Sailing;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

AMEL 54 #099

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chuck_Kim_Joy via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 5:17 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Insurance

 

Thank you for all who recommended insurance. I have reached reached out for quotes yesterday and am waiting to hear back. I'll let you know. 

All the best from the Caribbean!

 

Chuck and Kim

Joy 388

 

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:50 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:

I've posted this information before so it may be redundant to some folks.
After Irma hit the Caribbean in 2017, several underwriters refused claims, raised their rates and put extreme restrictions in their policies.
My insurer who I had my policy  now refused to write policies on US flagged vessels.
After much research I discovered Netherlands Insurance Ltd. Their base is in Holland and their main office is in Grenada. They have insured large fieght vessels for many years and have just started writing  policies for smaller (less than 60 meters) vessels. They are the underwriters, no brokers are involved. They are more expensive but well worth the extra fees. The policy is very clear and understandable. They cover lightening, rig loss and clearly define the problems that we, as boat owners would question.
Their area of covcerage is "world wide"!  No hurricane boxes. They offer as standard 2% deductable on any loss and 4% for damage occuring during a named storm.
My policy costs me $6000.00 US  a year for a hull valuation of 268,000 Euros. I sleep well at night.
If you want any specific information on my poilicy please contact me directly.
Cheers
Bill R
Cloudstreet SM2K 331 - Martinique
The contact information for the company is


Netherlands Insurance Company (WI) Ltd
Netherlands Building,
Grand Anse, P. O. Box 880,
St. George’s, Grenada, West Indies.
Voice +1-473-444-3012
Fax +1-473-444-2853
E-mail info@...

 

 

Re: Introduction and question wrt stay-sail and running rigging

Gerhard Mueller
 

Usually there is a stay between main and mizzen.
--
Gerhard Mueller
Amel Sharki #60
Currently North Sea, Germany

Re: Insurance

CW Bill Rouse
 

When I previously checked this company (https://netherlands.co.gd/) I found that it is currently a cooperative owned by citizens of Grenada. Their website states: "Currently with a majority of local shareholders, Netherlands Insurance Company serves the insurance needs of over 1,000 individuals, families and businesses in Grenada and Antigua. We are backed by a strong asset base, well capitalized and secure first class reinsurance through London, England."

It may have been a Dutch company at some point, but it is a company owned and underwritten by Individuals of Grenada, OPINION: Without saying anything against these families, I would not buy insurance from a company underwritten by 1000 individuals and families in Texas. And I would certainly wonder why Texans would try to hide behind a company name designed to confuse.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 7:17 AM Chuck_Kim_Joy <clacey9@...> wrote:
Thank you for all who recommended insurance. I have reached reached out for quotes yesterday and am waiting to hear back. I'll let you know. 
All the best from the Caribbean!

Chuck and Kim
Joy 388

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:50 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:
I've posted this information before so it may be redundant to some folks.
After Irma hit the Caribbean in 2017, several underwriters refused claims, raised their rates and put extreme restrictions in their policies.
My insurer who I had my policy  now refused to write policies on US flagged vessels.
After much research I discovered Netherlands Insurance Ltd. Their base is in Holland and their main office is in Grenada. They have insured large fieght vessels for many years and have just started writing  policies for smaller (less than 60 meters) vessels. They are the underwriters, no brokers are involved. They are more expensive but well worth the extra fees. The policy is very clear and understandable. They cover lightening, rig loss and clearly define the problems that we, as boat owners would question.
Their area of covcerage is "world wide"!  No hurricane boxes. They offer as standard 2% deductable on any loss and 4% for damage occuring during a named storm.
My policy costs me $6000.00 US  a year for a hull valuation of 268,000 Euros. I sleep well at night.
If you want any specific information on my poilicy please contact me directly.
Cheers
Bill R
Cloudstreet SM2K 331 - Martinique
The contact information for the company is


Netherlands Insurance Company (WI) Ltd
Netherlands Building,
Grand Anse, P. O. Box 880,
St. George’s, Grenada, West Indies.
Voice +1-473-444-3012
Fax +1-473-444-2853
E-mail info@...

 

Re: Several Important things that you will want

CW Bill Rouse
 

This will be a forever manifold!

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 6:01 AM Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:
Hello,

Sofomarin manifold arrived today. It took 10 days from France to Slovenia. The length is fine, the additional shut-off valves make it all a lot bigger. I'll see when I install it on the boat. Two clamps for wall mounting are included. Here are some photos. Price is 527 euros including VAT and shipping cost to Slovenia. Thank you Bill for arranging a discount.
 
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia

Re: Insurance

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Thank you for all who recommended insurance. I have reached reached out for quotes yesterday and am waiting to hear back. I'll let you know. 
All the best from the Caribbean!

Chuck and Kim
Joy 388

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 8:50 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:
I've posted this information before so it may be redundant to some folks.
After Irma hit the Caribbean in 2017, several underwriters refused claims, raised their rates and put extreme restrictions in their policies.
My insurer who I had my policy  now refused to write policies on US flagged vessels.
After much research I discovered Netherlands Insurance Ltd. Their base is in Holland and their main office is in Grenada. They have insured large fieght vessels for many years and have just started writing  policies for smaller (less than 60 meters) vessels. They are the underwriters, no brokers are involved. They are more expensive but well worth the extra fees. The policy is very clear and understandable. They cover lightening, rig loss and clearly define the problems that we, as boat owners would question.
Their area of covcerage is "world wide"!  No hurricane boxes. They offer as standard 2% deductable on any loss and 4% for damage occuring during a named storm.
My policy costs me $6000.00 US  a year for a hull valuation of 268,000 Euros. I sleep well at night.
If you want any specific information on my poilicy please contact me directly.
Cheers
Bill R
Cloudstreet SM2K 331 - Martinique
The contact information for the company is


Netherlands Insurance Company (WI) Ltd
Netherlands Building,
Grand Anse, P. O. Box 880,
St. George’s, Grenada, West Indies.
Voice +1-473-444-3012
Fax +1-473-444-2853
E-mail info@...

 

Insurance

william reynolds
 

I've posted this information before so it may be redundant to some folks.
After Irma hit the Caribbean in 2017, several underwriters refused claims, raised their rates and put extreme restrictions in their policies.
My insurer who I had my policy  now refused to write policies on US flagged vessels.
After much research I discovered Netherlands Insurance Ltd. Their base is in Holland and their main office is in Grenada. They have insured large fieght vessels for many years and have just started writing  policies for smaller (less than 60 meters) vessels. They are the underwriters, no brokers are involved. They are more expensive but well worth the extra fees. The policy is very clear and understandable. They cover lightening, rig loss and clearly define the problems that we, as boat owners would question.
Their area of covcerage is "world wide"!  No hurricane boxes. They offer as standard 2% deductable on any loss and 4% for damage occuring during a named storm.
My policy costs me $6000.00 US  a year for a hull valuation of 268,000 Euros. I sleep well at night.
If you want any specific information on my poilicy please contact me directly.
Cheers
Bill R
Cloudstreet SM2K 331 - Martinique
The contact information for the company is


Netherlands Insurance Company (WI) Ltd
Netherlands Building,
Grand Anse, P. O. Box 880,
St. George’s, Grenada, West Indies.
Voice +1-473-444-3012
Fax +1-473-444-2853
E-mail info@...

 

Re: Introduction and gennaker/ballooner querry

David Dickman
 

Hi Jarek,
   Many thanks.

David

On Tue, Mar 1, 2022 at 4:18 AM Jarek Zemlo via groups.io <noa_blue=protonmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello David,

welcome to the AMEL owners family. This may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqNF1ggKGRw
Regards
Jarek
SY NOA BLUE
SM 201

Re: Several Important things that you will want

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hello,

Sofomarin manifold arrived today. It took 10 days from France to Slovenia. The length is fine, the additional shut-off valves make it all a lot bigger. I'll see when I install it on the boat. Two clamps for wall mounting are included. Here are some photos. Price is 527 euros including VAT and shipping cost to Slovenia. Thank you Bill for arranging a discount.
 
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia

Re: Insurance

Trevor Lusty
 

Scott,
          The underwriters will tell you when you ask them directly why it is so much cheaper to insure in Europe than further afield, that it is due to repatriation costs involved in returning the vessel to a country where  there is the necessary skill sets to make appropriate repairs.
It sounds good!
Regards,
Trevor Lusty
Cork
Ireland

Introduction and question wrt stay-sail and running rigging

Thomas Wink
 

Hi All,

My name is Thomas, proud owner of Maraumu 46 #32. I am planning a solo trip to the Azores, from Holland, this year. As I will be doing a bit of upwind sailing I am looking into installing running back-stays to prevent bending while sailing with the staysail. The staysail is mounted about 15% below mast head, as can be seen in this photo:
jib.jpg

The red line is where I suppose the running back-stay could connect. I haven't noticed much pumping while going to windward during sea trials, although there is some slight bending of the top half of the mast. 

I would like to know your thoughts on the necessity of a running back-stay, and whether the placement would be correct like this.

Many thanks in advance!

Thomas
Re: Introduction and gennaker/ballooner querry

Jarek Zemlo
 

Hello David,

welcome to the AMEL owners family. This may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqNF1ggKGRw
Regards
Jarek
SY NOA BLUE
SM 201

Re: 𝗣𝗿𝗼𝘃𝗶𝘀𝗶𝗼𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗥𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱𝘁𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲 𝗩𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗼 𝗶𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝘁𝗼 𝘃𝗶𝗲𝘄

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Kia Ora

Many thanks to our fellow Amelians for the brilliant provisioning zoom talk and  to Bill for organising it.  It was incredibly interesting and very informative.

Interestingly, one subject that wasn't touched on was the benefits and ease of dehydration of meals and individual foods.

Many years ago Ross and I successfully completed a circumnavigation by sea kayak, of Stewart Island, New Zealand.  Due to the islands extreme remoteness and need to save weight, I successfully dehydrated 30 days of meals, which included breakfast, lunch, dinner (plus desserts) and many snacks and goodies.  Not everything was dehydrated by me but a good 98 percent was.

I have recently purchased another home dehydrator here in Turkey and am in the process of starting a dehydrated pantry.

If anyone is interested or has any questions I would be happy to answer them on this topic.

All the best to you all and thanks again for such a great topic.

I also had another question for the site.  Would a tips and tricks for living aboard be a good idea i.e. cleaning products, cooking equipment, first aid kits etc etc, just wondering?

Donna Hammond & Ross Hickey
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM 2K 356
Finike, Turkey


--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey

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