Date   

New file uploaded to amelyachtowners

amelyachtowners@...
 

Hello,


This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the amelyachtowners
group.


File : /SM Polars/Sail_Set.xmlb
Uploaded by : alan_leslie_elyes_sm2k <divanz620@...>
Description :


You can access this file at the URL:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/files/SM%20Polars/Sail_Set.xmlb


To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
https://help.yahoo.com/kb/index?page=content&y=PROD_GRPS&locale=en_US&id=SLN15398


Regards,


alan_leslie_elyes_sm2k <divanz620@...>


SM #88 ('92) sea strainer

jwdernehl@...
 

Just wondering what the size(or part number!) of the sea strainer is on a SM of this Vintage....Yes, they get better with age.  Sure.


Thank you!!


Re: polar diagram, maxsea

Alan Leslie
 

I uploaded the polar file info to the facebook page some months ago...

If you can't find it...email me s.v.elyse at hotmail dot com and I'll send it to you...

Cheers
Alan 
SV Elyse SM437


Re: Cruising schute for a Santorin

Dave_Benjamin
 

Joe,

I'm a sailmaker who up until recently owned and cruised a Maramu so I'm pretty familiar with these boats. Couple of questions for you. 

1. What sort of cruising are you doing? Extended passages or coastal / short hops?
2. Do you have the twin ballooners and poles?

For longer passages the twins are a much better solution than any cruising spinnaker. Once we get above 150 degrees or so apparent, the twins aren't really an option. On a boat that is being daysailed for the most part, the twins aren't too practical. 

For many shorthanded cruisers, we suggest our CLASS (Cruisers Light Air Sail Solution) over a cruising spinnaker. We're starting on one for a Super Maramu in the next few weeks. The CLASS has a much wider usable wind range and can be used with a Code Zero furler that is a bit more reliable than the top down furlers you see in use with spinnakers. You really don't give up that much performance at deeper angles and it is much easier to deal with. Dee Caffari used something quite similar during her singlehanded RTW campaign. 

The CLASS is constructed from a very strong 2.5 oz nylon or an economical 1.5oz for more casual sailing or smaller yachts. The CLASS is a full radial design and extremely versatile. It differs from a genoa in shape in that it has some "shoulder" to it. It's flatter than a spinnaker. You can carry it from just about close hauled to deep downwind angles. We think of it as a Swiss Army knife of sails. It's ideal for shorthanded or singlehanded sailing in that it requires relatively little attention and is a lot easier than dealing with any sort of spinnaker. 

Some firsthand reports:

Recent report from a Baja Ha-Ha participant with a Catalina 42: 

I really, really like the CLASS! It worked great and was super easy to handle. Furling and unfurling were total non events even when we left it up once into a mid20's breeze. Most of the time we were nearly dead down wind so the sail spent a lot of time poled out and much of that with the main furled. Under that configuration we saw boat speeds equal 2/3 to 3/4 of the wind speed - 5 knots in 8 knots of wind and 6 to 7 knots in 10 knots. Combine that with the ease of handling and I couldn't have been happier. Mark was on board as crew and he was totally sold on it also. I will be surprised if he doesn't call you to get the same setup for Mimiya. 

Reports from an Australian customer on a crossing from Long Beach to the Marquesas - you can check out this forum thread starting at post # 42 - http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f47/hunter-40-5-a-70492-3.html

 


Re: polar diagram, maxsea

pmisurek@...
 

Hi Bill-


Do you still have the referenced polar file?  I am playing around with the routing functions of QtVlm and would like to plug in some real world data.


Thanks,


Peter


Re: polar diagram, maxsea

pmisurek@...
 

Hi,


Do either of you still haave these referenced polar files?  I would like to play around with the routing features of qtVlm.


Thanks,


Peter


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler Top Swivel (bearing collar)

Peter Forbes
 

Ian,

That is really encouraging news to hear Amel are working hard and watching cash - there was some talk on this site of them being in some financial difficulty which would be bad.

I hope they succeed - they ale superb products.

Peter Forbes
Carango  Sailing Ketch
Amel 54 #035
Gouvia Marina - CORFU, Greece

On 2 Aug 2014, at 08:29, Ian parkianj@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

I took mine apart on my Santorin after dismantling the foil from the forestay (good description on the site). The furler is heavily engineered but very simple. Once the furler is removed there is a plastic plug inside, one at the top and one at the bottom. remove these with a small screwdriver and all the bearings will shake out. Mine were 10mm. One of the plugs had already come out and this had mangled some of the bearings which caused the problem.  

The bearings are either torlon or delrin. I used Harken replacements (actually 9.5mm). The important bit is the plastic plugs. they had to be shaped on the inside to match the bearing channel profile. If they do not fill the gap in the profile just one bearing drops out of alignment and blocks the whole lot!  
Because the bearings are hard plastic it is these that wear rather than the two parts of the roller drum. If you haven't removed it yet you might be pleasantly surprised how easy it is to rebuild. Any good engineering shop will help with machining the plugs.

Good luck,

Ian

PS, We were in La Rochelle a month ago and toured the Amel factory. They are flat out on finishing and delivering new 55 and 64s and getting ready for the European boat show season. They were extremely helpful for us, but they don't have many staff and were pretty flat out at work.


On 1 Aug 2014, at 18:14, gary@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Well, 10 days, three emails and no response from Amel on the parts needed to get us going. I sent the first request for the "Furler Swivel" and received a quote so I ordered two. What showed up was the stainless steel 'horns' that keep the top part of the swivel from rotating. Well, I needed those too, but was going to have them made locally. Nonetheless, I still don't think we have this sorted with Amel as they've not replied with another quote. Is there an alternative out there that anyone's used on the SM foil, or perhaps another option for purchasing an OEM spare? Thanks in advance for any options. Gary W SM 209 Adagio Annapolis





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler Top Swivel (bearing collar)

Ian Park
 

Sorry,
Just sent the info on the furler and didn't sign it off

Ian and Linda ' Ocean Hobo' SN96 en route to CApe Verde then Caribbean.

On 1 Aug 2014, at 18:14, gary@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Well, 10 days, three emails and no response from Amel on the parts needed to get us going. I sent the first request for the "Furler Swivel" and received a quote so I ordered two. What showed up was the stainless steel 'horns' that keep the top part of the swivel from rotating. Well, I needed those too, but was going to have them made locally. Nonetheless, I still don't think we have this sorted with Amel as they've not replied with another quote. Is there an alternative out there that anyone's used on the SM foil, or perhaps another option for purchasing an OEM spare? Thanks in advance for any options. Gary W SM 209 Adagio Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler Top Swivel (bearing collar)

Ian Park
 

I took mine apart on my Santorin after dismantling the foil from the forestay (good description on the site). The furler is heavily engineered but very simple. Once the furler is removed there is a plastic plug inside, one at the top and one at the bottom. remove these with a small screwdriver and all the bearings will shake out. Mine were 10mm. One of the plugs had already come out and this had mangled some of the bearings which caused the problem.  
The bearings are either torlon or delrin. I used Harken replacements (actually 9.5mm). The important bit is the plastic plugs. they had to be shaped on the inside to match the bearing channel profile. If they do not fill the gap in the profile just one bearing drops out of alignment and blocks the whole lot!  
Because the bearings are hard plastic it is these that wear rather than the two parts of the roller drum. If you haven't removed it yet you might be pleasantly surprised how easy it is to rebuild. Any good engineering shop will help with machining the plugs.

Good luck,

Ian

PS, We were in La Rochelle a month ago and toured the Amel factory. They are flat out on finishing and delivering new 55 and 64s and getting ready for the European boat show season. They were extremely helpful for us, but they don't have many staff and were pretty flat out at work.


On 1 Aug 2014, at 18:14, gary@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Well, 10 days, three emails and no response from Amel on the parts needed to get us going. I sent the first request for the "Furler Swivel" and received a quote so I ordered two. What showed up was the stainless steel 'horns' that keep the top part of the swivel from rotating. Well, I needed those too, but was going to have them made locally. Nonetheless, I still don't think we have this sorted with Amel as they've not replied with another quote. Is there an alternative out there that anyone's used on the SM foil, or perhaps another option for purchasing an OEM spare? Thanks in advance for any options. Gary W SM 209 Adagio Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler Top Swivel (bearing collar)

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Gary,

Email Riza at Emek Marine in Turkey. He stocks hundreds of Amel specific parts in his warehouse and ships worldwide. He always answers his email within 24 hours. RIZA  - EMEK emekmarin.com>. His prices with things I have purchased have been the same as Amel or cheaper.

Language is always an issue when dealing with different countries. If I were you, I would always include a photo of what I want.

Bill
BeBe 387




On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:14 PM, gary@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Well, 10 days, three emails and no response from Amel on the parts needed to get us going. I sent the first request for the "Furler Swivel" and received a quote so I ordered two. What showed up was the stainless steel 'horns' that keep the top part of the swivel from rotating. Well, I needed those too, but was going to have them made locally. Nonetheless, I still don't think we have this sorted with Amel as they've not replied with another quote. Is there an alternative out there that anyone's used on the SM foil, or perhaps another option for purchasing an OEM spare? Thanks in advance for any options. Gary W SM 209 Adagio Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler Top Swivel (bearing collar)

Ian Shepherd
 

Hello Gary,

if I am not mistaken, your misfortune coincides with the great French exodus when most of the country shuts down for its summer holidays. Amel do however keep a skeleton crew available. In July last year I had an outhaul gearbox fail. After telephoning Amel they found a replacement on the shelf and in less than 60 hours I had the spare in my hand in central Greece. Had I not telephoned, there would have been none of the regular SAV staff available to handle my emails till after they returned from vacation, as you call it.

Good luck.

Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader Built 2003 Larnaca Cyprus.








On 01/08/2014 17:14, gary@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

Well, 10 days, three emails and no response from Amel on the parts needed to get us going. I sent the first request for the "Furler Swivel" and received a quote so I ordered two. What showed up was the stainless steel 'horns' that keep the top part of the swivel from rotating. Well, I needed those too, but was going to have them made locally. Nonetheless, I still don't think we have this sorted with Amel as they've not replied with another quote. Is there an alternative out there that anyone's used on the SM foil, or perhaps another option for purchasing an OEM spare? Thanks in advance for any options. Gary W SM 209 Adagio Annapolis



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Furler Top Swivel (bearing collar)

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi I bought a complete furler swivel from Amel about 4 or five years ago.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl


On Saturday, 2 August 2014 5:14 AM, "gary@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:


 
Well, 10 days, three emails and no response from Amel on the parts needed to get us going. I sent the first request for the "Furler Swivel" and received a quote so I ordered two. What showed up was the stainless steel 'horns' that keep the top part of the swivel from rotating. Well, I needed those too, but was going to have them made locally. Nonetheless, I still don't think we have this sorted with Amel as they've not replied with another quote. Is there an alternative out there that anyone's used on the SM foil, or perhaps another option for purchasing an OEM spare? Thanks in advance for any options. Gary W SM 209 Adagio Annapolis



Furler Top Swivel (bearing collar)

Gary Wells
 

Well, 10 days, three emails and no response from Amel on the parts needed to get us going. I sent the first request for the "Furler Swivel" and received a quote so I ordered two. What showed up was the stainless steel 'horns' that keep the top part of the swivel from rotating. Well, I needed those too, but was going to have them made locally. Nonetheless, I still don't think we have this sorted with Amel as they've not replied with another quote. Is there an alternative out there that anyone's used on the SM foil, or perhaps another option for purchasing an OEM spare? Thanks in advance for any options. Gary W SM 209 Adagio Annapolis


Re: {Disarmed} Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Arch

karkauai
 

Welcome and congrats on your Amel. Hope we can meet and have a beer/wine/rum sometime.  Kristy is on the hard in Fernandina Beach FL until this Fall, then going South for the winter.  Probably up to Maine next summer.  Let us know where you are.
Kent
SM243 Kristy



On Aug 1, 2014, at 9:55 AM, "francesringley@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks all.


I am also a new owner. But I've been 'creeping' the Amel Yacht Owner's group since I began my SM search a while ago. Now that I am 'in the club' :), I'd just like to say thanks to everyone for the responses and advice. This is a terrific group.

Bill, BeBe's arch looks great, very nice design and super-practical. Well done to you and Riza.

Steve and Liz, I'll take you up on your offer to keep in touch.

We are in Canada and for 30 years have sailed the Great Lakes. Our SM is in the Caribbean on the hard for hurricane season and for the first time in our lives we can't wait for summer here to end!


Ian & Margaret
SM153
Loca Lola II


Re: {Disarmed} Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Arch

francesringley@...
 

Thanks all.

I am also a new owner. But I've been 'creeping' the Amel Yacht Owner's group since I began my SM search a while ago. Now that I am 'in the club' :), I'd just like to say thanks to everyone for the responses and advice. This is a terrific group.

Bill, BeBe's arch looks great, very nice design and super-practical. Well done to you and Riza.

Steve and Liz, I'll take you up on your offer to keep in touch.

We are in Canada and for 30 years have sailed the Great Lakes. Our SM is in the Caribbean on the hard for hurricane season and for the first time in our lives we can't wait for summer here to end!


Ian & Margaret
SM153
Loca Lola II


Cavity btw keel and prop

j.lochhead@...
 

Hi,  I have been out for haul out and was about to relaunch when I noticed a small drip of water aft of the keel.  Upon close inspection a tiny hole was noticed.  This then lead to the grinder coming out.


What I have discovered is that it appears during the original build the glass was not completely pushed into the mould in this very narrow section, leaving a gap between the resin and the glass.  I believe this is the case as the glass has obviously never had resin. It then looks like at some point the boat has been lifted with slings and this crushed a small section of this cavity.  A repair was done at this time but it appears to have not been complete.  I have ground out a bit of the problem but the hole looks like it keeps going fwd.  Have managed to get a wire into the hole another 15cm.  I am hesitant to keep going with the grinding, but want to do the repair properly.  Has anyone else encountered this problem before?  (Photos have been added)


Mahiti Maramu Hull #147


Re: {Disarmed} Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Arch

Chris Flack
 

Riza sold us on getting the same arch put on Hemera after showing us how yours turned out Bill. They look terrific, and have the added extras of WiFi antenna and floodlight.

Cheers

Chris
Hemera SM31

 

 

On 01-08-2014 03:18, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

 

 

Steve,
 
Glad you ordered it...I think you will be happy...BeBe was the first SM arch that Emek made after making a number of arches for some 54's.
 
I assume that you are buying the solar panels and the solar MPPT locally?? 
 
Bill
BeBe 387


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:08 PM, flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My wife and I are fairly new owners of SM #72, and have recently ordered the arch made by Emek marine in Turkey. We have our boat in Georgia at the moment, and are giving her a minor refit. You will find good pictures of the arch on the forum, and it does have davits,and the ability to accommodate 3 x 140 watt Kycoera panels on top. We ordered ours about 4 weeks ago, and it should be ready to ship any day now. We paid $3900.00 USD in advance, and will pay @ $1500.00 USD for air shipping when it is ready.

We liked the design of this arch, and thought since several have been made for the SM, it was easier than re-inventing the wheel. The price is also about half of what a competent fabricator would have charged to design and build one in the USA. If you would like to keep in touch, Ill let you know how it works out when we receive the arch. I'll include my email and phone below.

Regards,
Steve and Liz Davis
S/V Aloha SM#72
Currently in Bruns wick, GA

flyboyscd@...
510-908-1835

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Arch

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Steve,

Glad you ordered it...I think you will be happy...BeBe was the first SM arch that Emek made after making a number of arches for some 54's.

I assume that you are buying the solar panels and the solar MPPT locally?? 

Bill
BeBe 387


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:08 PM, flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

My wife and I are fairly new owners of SM #72, and have recently ordered the arch made by Emek marine in Turkey. We have our boat in Georgia at the moment, and are giving her a minor refit. You will find good pictures of the arch on the forum, and it does have davits,and the ability to accommodate 3 x 140 watt Kycoera panels on top. We ordered ours about 4 weeks ago, and it should be ready to ship any day now. We paid $3900.00 USD in advance, and will pay @ $1500.00 USD for air shipping when it is ready.

We liked the design of this arch, and thought since several have been made for the SM, it was easier than re-inventing the wheel. The price is also about half of what a competent fabricator would have charged to design and build one in the USA. If you would like to keep in touch, Ill let you know how it works out when we receive the arch. I'll include my email and phone below.

Regards,
Steve and Liz Davis
S/V Aloha SM#72
Currently in Bruns wick, GA

flyboyscd@...
510-908-1835



Re: Arch

Stephen Davis
 

My wife and I are fairly new owners of SM #72, and have recently ordered the arch made by Emek marine in Turkey. We have our boat in Georgia at the moment, and are giving her a minor refit. You will find good pictures of the arch on the forum, and it does have davits,and the ability to accommodate 3 x 140 watt Kycoera panels on top. We ordered ours about 4 weeks ago, and it should be ready to ship any day now. We paid $3900.00 USD in advance, and will pay @ $1500.00 USD for air shipping when it is ready.

We liked the design of this arch, and thought since several have been made for the SM, it was easier than re-inventing the wheel. The price is also about half of what a competent fabricator would have charged to design and build one in the USA. If you would like to keep in touch, Ill let you know how it works out when we receive the arch. I'll include my email and phone below.

Regards,
Steve and Liz Davis
S/V Aloha SM#72
Currently in Brunswick, GA

flyboyscd@...
510-908-1835


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Housekeeping.

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Stephanie,

We normally wash with the following settings: Cotton, Express, 1200 Tours, Froid (cold water...but sometimes we set to warm or hot at at 40 or 60), Sans Sechage (no drying).

We have a clothes line that we run between the main mast shrouds (3 times) then to the genoa furler. This line holds more than 1 load of clothes that we dry in the sun, hanging "inside-out." . If it is raining we will dry clothes inside the boat with various lines.

Bill
BeBe 387


On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Stephanie DiBelardino stephiedib@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Bill!  Hi Judy!

I am going to do a delicate machine wash.  But do I dry in the sun or in the shade?
Many thanks for your input!

Stephanie 

On Jul 29, 2014, at 1:16 AM, "'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Stephanie,

We have washed the covers on the foam and off the foam...by hand and by machine. If you wash them by hand, rinse thoroughly and use a wet vacuum to remove as much of the rinse water as possible before letting them sun-dry. Never use a dryer with this fabric. All of the techniques we used have worked fine. 

When you remove the seat cushion covers in the salon, you will find the foam in two pieces (this creates the bull-nose effect). Unzip and take out the first piece, then unzip the inside zipper to remove the second piece. Be sure to note which cushion the foam is taken from and its orientation. This will help you when you reassemble. Use a marker on the bottom or back side of the foam...never on the top or front as sometimes marks can be seen through the fabric, or with some spills, markers will transfer.

Take care if you are doing this by hand to not be too aggressive with a brush because the nylon microfiber pile is electrostaticly glued to the base-cloth, and aggressive brushing will remove the pile. Light brushing with a soft bristle brush is OK. If you have a spot where you need to brush, test your brushing technique on the bottom of a cushion to ensure you will not remove the pile.

Hope this helps and I am sure that you will be happy with the results...let us know.

Bill
BeBe 387
Currently Croatia