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Re: Dolphin 24V30A charger manual

CW Bill Rouse
 

Slavco,

I will try to answer some of this in Red:

My Dolphin 24/30A looks different than 24/50A. It have only 5 LEDs that displays the status of the charger. There are no buttons like on 24/50A charger. Between the time your boat was made and the time that Dolphin chargers stopped production, I remember 3 different models of the 30, 50, & 100 amp chargers from them. At the time your boat was made, there was no way to change the charging curve of the Dolphin chargers Amel installed.

I was on the boat on Sunday and when I have turned on the 24/30A charger BMS 712 displayed 28V for few seconds and then went to 33V.  On 24/50 this is Position09 Sulphation program recovery. On 24/30A there is no way to do it manually at least not from outside the charger. Am I experiencing faulty charger or there is something else going on.
My guess is that there is either something wrong with your charger or possibly one or more bad batteries.

What worries me is high voltage from charger. Luckily I was on the boat I do not know what could happen if as was not there. 34V can do a lot of mess :((. Is there any protection agains this on Amel SM? I can not image to go for few hours from the boat, keep chargers on and this would happen? Do you switch off chargers when not on the boat or you go off for few hours?
Is there no over voltage protection on Dolphin chargers? No there is not any separate voltage control, only the voltage control which is made into the charge control circuit. One addition to later model chargers was a battery temperature sensor which could turn OFF charging when a high temperature is reached in the battery.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:48 AM Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:
Hello,

maybe this needs to be separate topic. My Dolphin 24/30A looks different than 24/50A. It have only 5 LEDs that displays the status of the charger. There are no buttons like on 24/50A charger. I was on the boat on Sunday and when I have turned on the 24/30A charger BMS 712 displayed 28V for few seconds and then went to 33V.  On 24/50 this is Position09 Sulphation program recovery. On 24/30A there is no way to do it manually at least not from outside the charger. Am I experiencing faulty charger or there is something else going on.
What worries me is high voltage from charger. Luckily I was on the boat I do not know what could happen if as was not there. 34V can do a lot of mess :((. Is there any protection agains this on Amel SM? I can not image to go for few hours from the boat, keep chargers on and this would happen? Do you switch off chargers when not on the boat or you go off for few hours?
Is there no over voltage protection on Dolphin chargers?
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia

Re: Introduction - New Super Maramu owner

CW Bill Rouse
 

Ken,

Congratulations!

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 2:31 AM Elaine Leishman via groups.io <leishman.elaine=yahoo.com.au@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Ken ,

Michael and Elaine from super maramu  251.  We are currently in Melbourne and have just finished 4 weeks on the hardstand in Westernport.
Enjoy your cruising.  

Elaine and Michael from Nebo 


On Wed, 9 Feb. 2022 at 6:53 pm, Bruno COTTE
Welcome on the club 
I know this boat since 2016 it is perfect and carefully maintained . Excellent choice 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 9 févr. 2022 à 09:52, Ken Uber <kenneth.uber@...> a écrit :

G'day everybody,
I have been lurking and researching.
I have just made a payment for a Super Maramu.
The hull # is 007 
As was owned by another member on this site, Mr Jean-Pierre Germain.
I am really excited and eagerly awaiting for Eleuthera as JP sails it to me in Australia.
Here's to many long years of eventual sailing and exploring from the comfort that only an Amel can provide.

Thanks
Ken Uber 
Melbourne, Australia



 

Re: Rudder Post Packing #replacement

CW Bill Rouse
 

Elja,

Sure is.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 12:32 AM Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:
He Bill
is the Molikote 111 also usefull to replace the the rings from the propeller shaft ?

Thanks Elja

Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Re: File /Dolphin 30A charger.pdf uploaded #file-notice

Martin Birkhoff
 

Thanks Slavko,

your upload was published just in the right moment ;-)

Martin
SY Mago del Sur - 54#40
Re: Machining AMEL-specific - wrench/spanner for rudder-post-packing nut

David Vogel
 

the CAD/CAM file for teh spanner/wrench (in DXF format) is uploaded to the files area.

https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/files/Rudder%20SpannerWrench%20-%20CAD-CAM%20File.dxf
File /Rudder Spanner - CAD-CAM File.dxf uploaded #file-notice

main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <noreply@...>
 

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io group.

By: David Vogel <david.vogel@...>

Description:
CAD/CAM file for rudder wrench/spanner. dxf file format.
Re: Machining AMEL-specific tools in NZ (outhaul puller PLUS wrench for the rudder-post-packing nut)

David Vogel
 

All good, and that's where I may end up - but thought that a purpose made wrench in SS304 or -316 would be a nice addition in the aft cabin, for those infrequent but necessary jobs.
(Apols for the delay, but for some reason the emails have not been getting through as normal, and I am now needing to be sifting through the backlog to see what's been going on in the forum.)
File /Dolphin 30A charger.pdf uploaded #file-notice

main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <noreply@...>
 

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io group.

By: Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...>

Description:
This is 24V 30A manual for charger on my Amel SM #279. It has only 5 LED lights and no buttons for adjustments. Inside one can change from leed to gel battery.
Re: Several Important things that you will want

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hi,

I measured saltwater Maninold on my boat and the size is approx 52cm. So the new one should fit without major problems.
Photo is not clear but measurement is ;)).
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia
Re: Dolphin 24V30A charger manual

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hello,

maybe this needs to be separate topic. My Dolphin 24/30A looks different than 24/50A. It have only 5 LEDs that displays the status of the charger. There are no buttons like on 24/50A charger. I was on the boat on Sunday and when I have turned on the 24/30A charger BMS 712 displayed 28V for few seconds and then went to 33V.  On 24/50 this is Position09 Sulphation program recovery. On 24/30A there is no way to do it manually at least not from outside the charger. Am I experiencing faulty charger or there is something else going on.
What worries me is high voltage from charger. Luckily I was on the boat I do not know what could happen if as was not there. 34V can do a lot of mess :((. Is there any protection agains this on Amel SM? I can not image to go for few hours from the boat, keep chargers on and this would happen? Do you switch off chargers when not on the boat or you go off for few hours?
Is there no over voltage protection on Dolphin chargers?
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia
Re: Introduction - New Super Maramu owner

Elaine Leishman
 

Hi Ken ,

Michael and Elaine from super maramu  251.  We are currently in Melbourne and have just finished 4 weeks on the hardstand in Westernport.
Enjoy your cruising.  

Elaine and Michael from Nebo 


On Wed, 9 Feb. 2022 at 6:53 pm, Bruno COTTE
<cotte.bruno@...> wrote:
Welcome on the club 
I know this boat since 2016 it is perfect and carefully maintained . Excellent choice 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 9 févr. 2022 à 09:52, Ken Uber <kenneth.uber@...> a écrit :

G'day everybody,
I have been lurking and researching.
I have just made a payment for a Super Maramu.
The hull # is 007 
As was owned by another member on this site, Mr Jean-Pierre Germain.
I am really excited and eagerly awaiting for Eleuthera as JP sails it to me in Australia.
Here's to many long years of eventual sailing and exploring from the comfort that only an Amel can provide.

Thanks
Ken Uber 
Melbourne, Australia



 

Re: Introduction - New Super Maramu owner

Bruno COTTE
 

Welcome on the club 
I know this boat since 2016 it is perfect and carefully maintained . Excellent choice 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 9 févr. 2022 à 09:52, Ken Uber <kenneth.uber@...> a écrit :

G'day everybody,
I have been lurking and researching.
I have just made a payment for a Super Maramu.
The hull # is 007 
As was owned by another member on this site, Mr Jean-Pierre Germain.
I am really excited and eagerly awaiting for Eleuthera as JP sails it to me in Australia.
Here's to many long years of eventual sailing and exploring from the comfort that only an Amel can provide.

Thanks
Ken Uber 
Melbourne, Australia



 

Introduction - New Super Maramu owner

Ken Uber
 

G'day everybody,
I have been lurking and researching.
I have just made a payment for a Super Maramu.
The hull # is 007 
As was owned by another member on this site, Mr Jean-Pierre Germain.
I am really excited and eagerly awaiting for Eleuthera as JP sails it to me in Australia.
Here's to many long years of eventual sailing and exploring from the comfort that only an Amel can provide.

Thanks
Ken Uber 
Melbourne, Australia



 
Re: Rudder Post Packing #replacement

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...>
 

He Bill
is the Molikote 111 also usefull to replace the the rings from the propeller shaft ?

Thanks Elja

Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Re: Flaretite Flare Seal: Great Part for Stopping Watermaker Fitting Leaks #solution #spares

Mark McGovern
 

Bill,

I do too.  I thought that given how ubiquitous these flare fitting are used in industry and how, over time, they start to fail especially if they are over-tightened, surely someone had figured out a way to at least temporarily fix leaks.  Like most things nowadays, it's really about figuring out what search term to put into Google.  I'm sure anyone who works in hydraulics or refrigeration knew about the existence of these seals but it was news to me so figured it would probably be news to most Amel owners.  Especially given how many "leak in my watermaker" posts we get.

I debated between getting the uncoated 316 SS one and the one that I linked to which is made from 304 SS and coated in Loctite.  The pitting and deformation was so pronounced on the fitting on the end cap that I thought that the one coated in Loctite would have a better chance to conform to the pitted surface and make a seal.  I now have the replacement end caps from Dessalator but I'll probably just keep using the old ones at least until I see a leak either at that fitting or one of the other fittings.

Mark 


On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 12:58 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Mark,

I really like these seals. 

They also come as stainless steel coated with Loctite...see below:
image.png


On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 9:05 AM Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Excellent find!
I will be buying these.
On our new Amel 50, we had an identical leak. A drip. Researching the owner’s manual, the fitting called out for application of Locktite to the sealing surface. There wasn’t any. I applied Orange locktite (made by Permaseal, available on Amazon), fixing the leak.
I will buy these devices though. Quick, easy, and uniform.
I found them on hoseandfittings,com for lower cost. $29.87 for 10 with shipping.
Thanks for a great recommendation!


--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Annapolis, MD USA
Re: Flaretite Flare Seal: Great Part for Stopping Watermaker Fitting Leaks #solution #spares

CW Bill Rouse
 

Mark,

I really like these seals. 

They also come as stainless steel coated with Loctite...see below:
image.png


On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 9:05 AM Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Excellent find!
I will be buying these.
On our new Amel 50, we had an identical leak. A drip. Researching the owner’s manual, the fitting called out for application of Locktite to the sealing surface. There wasn’t any. I applied Orange locktite (made by Permaseal, available on Amazon), fixing the leak.
I will buy these devices though. Quick, easy, and uniform.
I found them on hoseandfittings,com for lower cost. $29.87 for 10 with shipping.
Thanks for a great recommendation!

Re: Flaretite Flare Seal: Great Part for Stopping Watermaker Fitting Leaks #solution #spares

Matt Salatino
 

Excellent find!
I will be buying these.
On our new Amel 50, we had an identical leak. A drip. Researching the owner’s manual, the fitting called out for application of Locktite to the sealing surface. There wasn’t any. I applied Orange locktite (made by Permaseal, available on Amazon), fixing the leak.
I will buy these devices though. Quick, easy, and uniform.
I found them on hoseandfittings,com for lower cost. $29.87 for 10 with shipping.
Thanks for a great recommendation!
Re: Flaretite Flare Seal: Great Part for Stopping Watermaker Fitting Leaks #solution #spares

CW Bill Rouse
 

Mark,

If we had an OSCAR for the BEST supporting member of the Amel Group, you would certainly win it, even though there is significant competition for several others. This is a great find...please post updates, if any.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
   

On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 8:30 AM Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:
Ulrich,

I cannot say for certain that the fittings are the same for the Duo100 in your 54 as they are for the D160 on my my SM but it is highly likely that they are.  I look a quick look at the documentation and the pressure vessels appear to be the same diameter for the Duo100 as the D160 so therefore they likely use the same end caps and thus, the same fittings.  Perhaps someone with a Duo100 can confirm that they also have 3/8" (-6) JIC 37 degree flare fittings on the end caps.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Annapolis, MD USA

Re: Flaretite Flare Seal: Great Part for Stopping Watermaker Fitting Leaks #solution #spares

Mark McGovern
 

Ulrich,

I cannot say for certain that the fittings are the same for the Duo100 in your 54 as they are for the D160 on my my SM but it is highly likely that they are.  I look a quick look at the documentation and the pressure vessels appear to be the same diameter for the Duo100 as the D160 so therefore they likely use the same end caps and thus, the same fittings.  Perhaps someone with a Duo100 can confirm that they also have 3/8" (-6) JIC 37 degree flare fittings on the end caps.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Annapolis, MD USA
Re: Flaretite Flare Seal: Great Part for Stopping Watermaker Fitting Leaks #solution #spares

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

Hi Mark, and Ho Ameliens

Thank you so much for this important impact and recommendation. Good to have it in the spares on board.
But.:Do you believe / are you sure, this fittings will also match to the Dessalator Duo types (e.g. Dua 100) as we run on Amel 54? Are the hose fittings on all Dessalators the same?
Than i´ll order it immediately. Until today we never had any issue with our watermaker…but never knows…knocking on wood.
Any other suggestions and experiences from in the Amel community?

Thanks for sharing and best Regards.
Fair winds and stay safe.

Ulrich
„Soleil Bleu“ / A54#088
***

Am 07.02.2022 um 23:22 schrieb Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...>:

This past summer, I developed a slight leak in my watermaker at the point where the high pressure hose connects to the fitting on the end cap on the watermaker pressure vessel.   I replaced the hose with a new one in the hopes that this would fix the leak and while the new hose did reduce the leak, it did not completely eliminate it.  I thought that might be the case because when I was cleaning the fitting on the end cap before installing the new hose I noticed that there was some significant corrosion and even some pitting on the flared face of the fitting on the watermaker end cap.  The flared face is supposed to create the seal with the mating surface on the fitting on the end of the hose.  Due to the corrosion and pitting, it could not create a perfect seal.  There was also signs of deformation of the face from over-tightening which probably also contributed to the inability to get a good seal.  Unfortunately, this fitting cannot be easily replaced as it is the fitting that is welded onto the bracket that is affixed to the watermaker end cap.  Here is the welded on flared fitting and the end cap:

 

I ordered some new end caps from Dessalator but they would not arrive before we needed start heading south for the winter.  Not wanting to have a fine mist of salt water spraying all over the engine room every time I ran the watermaker, I started looking some kind of temporary solution.  I did some research and found a relatively inexpensive part called a Flaretite Flare Seal that I hoped would stop the leak at least until I could replace the end caps.  It only took a minute to install as it literally just presses onto the male flare.  It seems to have completely stopped the leak. 

Here is the detailed information on the seal I used:
Flaretite Flare Seals:  https://www.flaretite.com/flaretite-seal
I purchased them here: https://www.titanfittings.com/Flare-Seal-p/bp-37ft-sor.htm and paid ~US$40 for a quantity of 10 (the minimum) but they are available many other places including Amazon.
The size needed for the watermaker hoses are 3/8 or -6.



They really are a great part to have in your spares kit on the boat.  They are relatively cheap, they are small, and they appear to fix what seems to be a fairly common problem on our boats - leaks at the watermaker fittings.

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
George Town, Bahamas

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