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Re: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Ian,

I input the grease in the lower hole and operate the gearbox when it comes
out of the higher hole I am done. I use the same grease that I use on the
autoprop-

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian Shepherd
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 2:35 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure





Hi Eric,

yes I do the same with the shaft. Getting it apart was no problem. Using
the autoprop adapter is a very good idea as is plugging the holes with
nylon bolts. Do you pump grease in from both sides or pump from the
bottom and let the air out from the top?

I find Corrosion Block grease very good in fighting problems caused by
sea water.

Regards

Ian SM414 Crusader (2003) Gulf of Volos

On 16/08/2013 17:42, Sailorman wrote:

Ian,

In a previous post today I suggested using the autoprop grease nipple
adapter and 5 mm nylon bolts.

No corrosion !!! also , once you have the gearbox disassembled you can see
where to mount the bolts. I mounted one low in the port side and the other
one high on the starboard.

Do not overfill otherwise you will blow the lips seals out of the gearbox.

Every 6 months I also remove the outhaul shaft and coat it with antiseize
lubricant.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Ian Shepherd
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:53 PM
To: Amel Owners Group
Subject: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure

When I started to unfurl the main this morning, the out-haul moved about
a foot rearwards then stopped with an odd sounding noise. I stripped the
gearbox down and found that the large gear driven by the helical gear on
the motor axis had all but worn away. Play around the motor driven end
of the drive shaft may have been a contributing cause.

What surprised me was the lack of lubrication inside the gearbox. There
seemed to be hardly any grease at all. Having read on this forum ideas
about fitting grease nipples to the genoa gearbox, I would suggest that
it would also be a good idea to do so to the out-haul and main furling
gearboxes as well. There seems to be ample space to do so.

For expediency as I am in the middle of a cruise I shall order a new
gearbox from Amel and rebuild the failed one as a spare over the winter.
I would guess that the large bronze gear is a custom Amel part, or does
anyone know if it can be obtained elsewhere?

Ian Shepherd SM 414 (2003) Crusader - Gulf of Volos Greece

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Re: [Amel] Re: Solar panels for Amel 54

Stefano Biffi
 

Hi and tks for the suggestion. Do you already have drawings for a SM installation. I'm looking also to have the airgen at the same location. Any suggestion closer to me today (italy)?

Stefano on board N'EVEREST
SM185 in Bocca di Magra

Il giorno 17/ago/2013, alle ore 11:41, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> ha scritto:

Tony,

The best looking design that I have seen is made in Gocek, Turkey. It is a multi-functional solar arch. See the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1515064489/pic/2126077749/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

If you are in the Med, I suggest you get one in Turkey.

Also, Peter Forbes s/v Carango just had one of these installed and we are getting a version of it for BeBe (SM).

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Gocek, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...> wrote:

Hi everyone.

Has anybody fitted solar panels to their Amel 54 ? I would welcome any thoughts/recommendations. I had two 50W panels on my last boat - an OVNI 435 - and I thought they were the best bit of kit on the boat. The batteries were kept topped up throughout the winter and with 4/5 amps being delivered for most of the day in summer they provided a useful supplement to the other means of charging i.e. the engine.

Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54Â no.102



________________________________
From: Duncan <wdhagemeyer@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Battery Plan for Amel 54



Â
Hi Richard,

Mine is 009. And has a 12 battery/12V bank.

Do you have any suggestions regarding inverters, or smart control panels? I am learning from my cabin experience that there are many types.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Battry Plan for Amel 54

Battery size for the later boats is size 31.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 7, 2013, at 13:36, "wdhagemeyer" <wdhagemeyer@... <mailto:wdhagemeyer%40gmail.com> > wrote:

I would like any input on a new battery plan for the A54 I have just started a solar program for a cabin and I have been advised that 6 volt 200 ah Trojans are the way to go for this off grid mountain cabin. The vendor is telling me these are low maintenance and will withstand even -30F temps. It would seem that this might be a good choice for the boat as well? I do not recall the size of the 12V batteries. I searched for a file or link to other posts that would also cover all aspects of the boats electrical system. I would appreciate any suggestions.










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Re: [Amel] Re: Solar panels for Amel 54

Peter Forbes
 

Tony,

I thoroughly endorse all the good things Bill says about Emek Marin - the solar arch is a very clever and aesthetically pleasing design.

Peter

Peter Forbes

07836 209730
ppsforbes@...

On 17 Aug 2013, at 13:34, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Tony,

Yes, Emek Marine approved for Amel service and they are the Amel Sales representative for Turkey. They are also a Nordhavn service rep. They have an Amel Pontoon at Skopea Mega Yacht Marina. Currently there are 2 - 53's, 4 - 54's and a 55 will be here tomorrow.

Emek is a 3rd generation vessel repair facility with a very large machine shop for fabrication and engine overhaul.

Contact Riza at cagdas"at"emekmarin.com.

I do recommend Emek with the highest marks.

Hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...> wrote:

Bill,

Many thanks for this. I am indeed in the Med - I plan to winter in Preveza and will probably go on to Turkey next summer. I have been in touch with Emek Marine before - I understand they are an "approved" Amel yard. Would you recommend them ?

Thanks, Tony.



________________________________
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:41 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Solar panels for Amel 54




Tony,

The best looking design that I have seen is made in Gocek, Turkey. It is a multi-functional solar arch. See the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1515064489/pic/2126077749/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

If you are in the Med, I suggest you get one in Turkey.

Also, Peter Forbes s/v Carango just had one of these installed and we are getting a version of it for BeBe (SM).

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Gocek, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@> wrote:

Hi everyone.

Has anybody fitted solar panels to their Amel 54 ? I would welcome any thoughts/recommendations. I had two 50W panels on my last boat - an OVNI 435 - and I thought they were the best bit of kit on the boat. The batteries were kept topped up throughout the winter and with 4/5 amps being delivered for most of the day in summer they provided a useful supplement to the other means of charging i.e. the engine.

Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54Â no.102



________________________________
From: Duncan <wdhagemeyer@>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Battery Plan for Amel 54



Â
Hi Richard,

Mine is 009. And has a 12 battery/12V bank.

Do you have any suggestions regarding inverters, or smart control panels? I am learning from my cabin experience that there are many types.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Battry Plan for Amel 54

Battery size for the later boats is size 31.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 7, 2013, at 13:36, "wdhagemeyer" <wdhagemeyer@ <mailto:wdhagemeyer%40gmail.com> > wrote:

I would like any input on a new battery plan for the A54 I have just started a solar program for a cabin and I have been advised that 6 volt 200 ah Trojans are the way to go for this off grid mountain cabin. The vendor is telling me these are low maintenance and will withstand even -30F temps. It would seem that this might be a good choice for the boat as well? I do not recall the size of the 12V batteries. I searched for a file or link to other posts that would also cover all aspects of the boats electrical system. I would appreciate any suggestions.

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[Amel] Re: Solar panels for Amel 54

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Tony,

Yes, Emek Marine approved for Amel service and they are the Amel Sales representative for Turkey. They are also a Nordhavn service rep. They have an Amel Pontoon at Skopea Mega Yacht Marina. Currently there are 2 - 53's, 4 - 54's and a 55 will be here tomorrow.

Emek is a 3rd generation vessel repair facility with a very large machine shop for fabrication and engine overhaul.

Contact Riza at cagdas"at"emekmarin.com.

I do recommend Emek with the highest marks.

Hope this helps you.

Bill
BeBe

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...> wrote:

Bill,

Many thanks for this. I am indeed in the Med - I plan to winter in Preveza and will probably go on to Turkey next summer. I have been in touch with Emek Marine before - I understand they are an "approved" Amel yard. Would you recommend them ?

Thanks, Tony.



________________________________
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:41 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Solar panels for Amel 54



 
Tony,

The best looking design that I have seen is made in Gocek, Turkey. It is a multi-functional solar arch. See the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1515064489/pic/2126077749/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

If you are in the Med, I suggest you get one in Turkey.

Also, Peter Forbes s/v Carango just had one of these installed and we are getting a version of it for BeBe (SM).

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Gocek, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@> wrote:

Hi everyone.

Has anybody fitted solar panels to their Amel 54 ?  I would welcome any thoughts/recommendations. I had two 50W panels on my last boat - an OVNI 435 - and I thought they were the best bit of kit on the boat. The batteries were kept topped up throughout the winter and with 4/5 amps being delivered for most of the day in summer they provided a useful supplement to the other means of charging i.e. the engine.

Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54  no.102



________________________________
From: Duncan <wdhagemeyer@>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Battery Plan for Amel 54



 
Hi Richard,

Mine is 009. And has a 12 battery/12V bank.

Do you have any suggestions regarding inverters, or smart control panels? I am learning from my cabin experience that there are many types.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Battry Plan for Amel 54

Battery size for the later boats is size 31.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 7, 2013, at 13:36, "wdhagemeyer" <wdhagemeyer@ <mailto:wdhagemeyer%40gmail.com> > wrote:

I would like any input on a new battery plan for the A54 I have just started a solar program for a cabin and I have been advised that 6 volt 200 ah Trojans are the way to go for this off grid mountain cabin. The vendor is telling me these are low maintenance and will withstand even -30F temps. It would seem that this might be a good choice for the boat as well? I do not recall the size of the 12V batteries. I searched for a file or link to other posts that would also cover all aspects of the boats electrical system. I would appreciate any suggestions.

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Fw: [Amel] Re: FW: : Leroy sommers- out haul gear box part number

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Looking back at the worthwhile posts that I have filed over the past three years I find that the earliest ones have been deleted to make room for the later ones. It seems Yahoo only permits 125 entries before it makes room for the latest ones!
Any how here is some info on outhaul gearboxes (if the site allows it all.

Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319, Marsala

From: Mark
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 3:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: FW: : Leroy sommers- out haul gear box part number


Sorry I didn't post all the information I should've. Justin's email is mailto:Justin.McMahon%40emerson.com. I gave him the part information below that someone else had posted and a couple of pictures of the gearbox and the "Leroy Somer MINIBIOC MVA-MEVA Installation and maintenance" PDF file. You might also reference his exchange with me (Mark Hayden).

regards, Mark

Manufacturer: LS Leroy Somer
Made in France
6015 Angoulene
Reducteur N 0256889
Type MVA M33C
Rduction 1/60

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Mark:

So, .... what part number did you give them?????? to receive this quote.

Thanks,

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
lying Grenada

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <markghayden@> wrote:

I finally reached someone in the US who is responsive and appears to be able to source the gearbox. I haven't actually ordered yet as we are overseas and need to figure out timing etc.

--Mark

__________________________

Mark,

The gearbox is available. Pricing is $521 ea. FCA Charleston, SC and delivery time is about 8 weeks.

The product would be available from the factory in France in 4 weeks if you wanted to air freight the item. It normally costs about $3.50 per kg.

If you want to proceed with an order, I can put you in touch with one of our distributors.

Best regards,

Justin T. McMahon | Sales & Marketing Manager

Leroy Somer Power & Drives – NA
8100 W. Florissant Ave. | St. Louis MO 63136 | USA
T 314.553.2380 | F 314.553.3403


--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

Eric,

Check the photo at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/834685605/pic/315936164/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

This should give you all you need for the part.

Bill
BeBe

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, kimberlite <kimberlite@> wrote:

Bill,

This is the alternator division of Emerson electric that handles Leroy
Somer.

When I called the number they said that they do not handle the gearboxes.

Do you have any other info?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill aboard
SV BeBe
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:49 PM
To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Re: FW: : Leroy sommers- out haul gear box part number





Eric,

Here it is...my first email was sent to gears-usa"at"leroy-somer.com...I got
the response from:TechServices.PTSolutions"at"emerson.com
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from TechServices.PTSolutions"at"emerson.com
to brouse@ <mailto:brouse%40gmail.com>
date Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:18 PM
subject RE: RFQ


Hi Bill,

Good day.

Here is the number of Leroy Somer for direct contact on this reducer.
7319673000. Thank you. Have a great weekend.

Regards,

Tech
____________________________________________
From: svbebe@ <mailto:svbebe%40gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:05 AM
To: gears-usa"at"leroy-somer.com
Subject: RFQ

Availability and price of gearbox number 102014 - see attached photo

Regards,

Charles W Bill Rouse
Yacht BeBe
3919 Ruskin St.
Houston, TX 77005

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite <kimberlite@>
wrote:





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From: kimberlite [mailto:kimberlite@]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 10:48 PM
To: 'kimberlite'
Subject: : Leroy sommers- out haul gear box part number



Hi,

I called the phone number and they have no info on the gearbox.

Would you please email me your correspondence with them.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



Eric and all,

The Leroy Somer gear reduction gearbox is part number 102014. It can be
ordered from Leroy Somer at the US phone 731-967-3000. I got this
information from gears-usa"at"leroy-somer.com. They told me via email that
it was available.

I have not called the number for a price because I am in Greece now. Let
me
know if this works out for you.

Best,

Bill
BeBe SM2k, #387
Currently Sounion, Greece

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite <kimberlite@>
wrote:

I am also looking for a gearbox for this motor.

Does anyone have a good contact?

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
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<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 6:27 AM
To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Leroy sommers- out haul gear box part number





It seems like quite a few people are tackling the problems servicing
their
outhaul gearboxes. I happened to notice the other day that the top lip
seal
was shot on mine and started on a two day project to disassemble the
gearbox.

I tried just about everything to get the inner shaft removed, except
"getting medieval with a sledge hammer" as one of the other owners
demonstrated. After bending several 8mm steel brackets and breaking my
puller tool, we finally succeeded with a 20mm thick steal bracket that
was
fabricated for the purpose. The nice thing about the approach that
finally
succeeded for us was that all the force was placed on the outer shaft of
the
gearbox, none on the boom or the other components of the gearbox. I'll
post
a picture when I have a chance.

I found the model information posted by one of the other owners here:

Manufacturer: LS Leroy Somer
Made in France
6015 Angoulene
Reducteur N 0256889
Type MVA M33C
Rduction 1/60

I have not been able to reach Leroy Somer via their contact page. Can
anyone
recommend a reliable and inexpensive source to order the gearbox or
parts
from? Any pricing info?

One other question: it seems that the outhaul gearbox causes more
problems
than the main sail furling gearbox. Is that right? Is the latter just
less
exposed to the elements?

thanks, Mark

SM331















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Outhaul Gearbox

seafeverofcuan <seafeverofcuan@...>
 

Ian,
The outhaul gearbox is available from Transdrive transdriveonline.co.uk or call Kevin Smith 0161 628 8497.
The price is British Pounds 362.01,UK carriage 30.00 both plus VAT.
Delivery five weeks from order.
Regards,
Trevor
Seafever
Mexico


Re: [Amel] Re: Solar panels for Amel 54

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

Bill,

Many thanks for this. I am indeed in the Med - I plan to winter in Preveza and will probably go on to Turkey next summer. I have been in touch with Emek Marine before - I understand they are an "approved" Amel yard. Would you recommend them ?

Thanks, Tony.



________________________________
From: Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 9:41 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Solar panels for Amel 54



 
Tony,

The best looking design that I have seen is made in Gocek, Turkey. It is a multi-functional solar arch. See the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1515064489/pic/2126077749/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

If you are in the Med, I suggest you get one in Turkey.

Also, Peter Forbes s/v Carango just had one of these installed and we are getting a version of it for BeBe (SM).

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Gocek, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...> wrote:

Hi everyone.

Has anybody fitted solar panels to their Amel 54 ?  I would welcome any thoughts/recommendations. I had two 50W panels on my last boat - an OVNI 435 - and I thought they were the best bit of kit on the boat. The batteries were kept topped up throughout the winter and with 4/5 amps being delivered for most of the day in summer they provided a useful supplement to the other means of charging i.e. the engine.

Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54  no.102



________________________________
From: Duncan <wdhagemeyer@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Battery Plan for Amel 54



 
Hi Richard,

Mine is 009. And has a 12 battery/12V bank.

Do you have any suggestions regarding inverters, or smart control panels? I am learning from my cabin experience that there are many types.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Battry Plan for Amel 54

Battery size for the later boats is size 31.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 7, 2013, at 13:36, "wdhagemeyer" <wdhagemeyer@... <mailto:wdhagemeyer%40gmail.com> > wrote:

I would like any input on a new battery plan for the A54 I have just started a solar program for a cabin and I have been advised that 6 volt 200 ah Trojans are the way to go for this off grid mountain cabin. The vendor is telling me these are low maintenance and will withstand even -30F temps. It would seem that this might be a good choice for the boat as well? I do not recall the size of the 12V batteries. I searched for a file or link to other posts that would also cover all aspects of the boats electrical system. I would appreciate any suggestions.

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Re: [Amel] Change calorifier heating element in Amel 54

Peter Forbes
 

To get the technical details of this Amel 54 solar arch contact Riza at cagdas at emekmarin dot com

Best wishes

Peter

Peter Forbes

07836 209730
ppsforbes@...

On 17 Aug 2013, at 08:51, Peter Forbes <ppsforbes@...> wrote:

Tony,

I have just had a very handsome solar arch fitted to Carango Amel 54 no 35 by an excellent chap called Riza of Emek Marin in Goçek Turkey and he also replaced the just beginning to leak water heater.

I am not on the boat but will try to send a photo.

Peter

Peter Forbes

07836 209730
ppsforbes@...

On 16 Aug 2013, at 20:47, Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...> wrote:


________________________________

Hello all.

Has anyone changed the immersion heater in the hot water tank on their Amel 54 ? Any hints/recommendations would be most welcome.

Tony Robinson

Catriona R Amel 54 no. 102

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Re: Solar panels for Amel 54

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Tony,

The best looking design that I have seen is made in Gocek, Turkey. It is a multi-functional solar arch. See the photo at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1515064489/pic/2126077749/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

If you are in the Med, I suggest you get one in Turkey.

Also, Peter Forbes s/v Carango just had one of these installed and we are getting a version of it for BeBe (SM).

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Gocek, Turkey

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...> wrote:

Hi everyone.

Has anybody fitted solar panels to their Amel 54 ?  I would welcome any thoughts/recommendations. I had two 50W panels on my last boat - an OVNI 435 - and I thought they were the best bit of kit on the boat. The batteries were kept topped up throughout the winter and with 4/5 amps being delivered for most of the day in summer they provided a useful supplement to the other means of charging i.e. the engine.

Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54  no.102



________________________________
From: Duncan <wdhagemeyer@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Battery Plan for Amel 54



 
Hi Richard,

Mine is 009. And has a 12 battery/12V bank.

Do you have any suggestions regarding inverters, or smart control panels? I am learning from my cabin experience that there are many types.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Battry Plan for Amel 54

Battery size for the later boats is size 31.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 7, 2013, at 13:36, "wdhagemeyer" <wdhagemeyer@... <mailto:wdhagemeyer%40gmail.com> > wrote:

I would like any input on a new battery plan for the A54 I have just started a solar program for a cabin and I have been advised that 6 volt 200 ah Trojans are the way to go for this off grid mountain cabin. The vendor is telling me these are low maintenance and will withstand even -30F temps. It would seem that this might be a good choice for the boat as well? I do not recall the size of the 12V batteries. I searched for a file or link to other posts that would also cover all aspects of the boats electrical system. I would appreciate any suggestions.



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Re: [Amel] Change calorifier heating element in Amel 54

Peter Forbes
 

Tony,

I have just had a very handsome solar arch fitted to Carango Amel 54 no 35 by an excellent chap called Riza of Emek Marin in Goçek Turkey and he also replaced the just beginning to leak water heater.

I am not on the boat but will try to send a photo.

Peter

Peter Forbes

07836 209730
ppsforbes@...

On 16 Aug 2013, at 20:47, Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...> wrote:


________________________________

Hello all.

Has anyone changed the immersion heater in the hot water tank on their Amel 54 ? Any hints/recommendations would be most welcome.

Tony Robinson

Catriona R Amel 54 no. 102

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Re: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Ian

The bronze gear cost me 250 euros before tax and transport. I did not ask the cost of a replacement gearbox. I also had to buy some gear pulling tools and some O rings which made the repair possible. I can post the details of these if anyone is interested.

Andrew

On 17 Aug 2013, at 08:38, "Ian Shepherd" <sv_freespirit@...<mailto:sv_freespirit@...>> wrote:



Thanks Andrew. I am bracing myself for the cost, but it has got to be
better than using a piece of rope to shape the main! Well at least it
lasted 21,500 nms.

Regards

Ian Shepherd SM 414 (2003) Volos Greece

On 16/08/2013 17:30, Dr Andrew Lamb wrote:

I recently contacted Leroy-Somer to see if I could get any spare parts
directly there exact words were "Unfortunatly this SPECIAL unit was
supplied to a machine maker in high volume, we cannot offer low
volume, Please Identify the machine maker and refer to them" i.e I had
to go to Amel for this.

Andrew

Ronpische
SM2k 472
Port Leucate, France

From: amelyachtowners@...<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com<http://40yahoogroups.com>>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com<http://40yahoogroups.com>>] On Behalf Of Ian Shepherd
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 6:53 PM
To: Amel Owners Group
Subject: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure

When I started to unfurl the main this morning, the out-haul moved about
a foot rearwards then stopped with an odd sounding noise. I stripped the
gearbox down and found that the large gear driven by the helical gear on
the motor axis had all but worn away. Play around the motor driven end
of the drive shaft may have been a contributing cause.

What surprised me was the lack of lubrication inside the gearbox. There
seemed to be hardly any grease at all. Having read on this forum ideas
about fitting grease nipples to the genoa gearbox, I would suggest that
it would also be a good idea to do so to the out-haul and main furling
gearboxes as well. There seems to be ample space to do so.

For expediency as I am in the middle of a cruise I shall order a new
gearbox from Amel and rebuild the failed one as a spare over the winter.
I would guess that the large bronze gear is a custom Amel part, or does
anyone know if it can be obtained elsewhere?

Ian Shepherd SM 414 (2003) Crusader - Gulf of Volos Greece




Re: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure

Ian Shepherd
 

Thanks Andrew. I am bracing myself for the cost, but it has got to be
better than using a piece of rope to shape the main! Well at least it
lasted 21,500 nms.

Regards

Ian Shepherd SM 414 (2003) Volos Greece

On 16/08/2013 17:30, Dr Andrew Lamb wrote:

I recently contacted Leroy-Somer to see if I could get any spare parts
directly there exact words were "Unfortunatly this SPECIAL unit was
supplied to a machine maker in high volume, we cannot offer low
volume, Please Identify the machine maker and refer to them" i.e I had
to go to Amel for this.

Andrew

Ronpische
SM2k 472
Port Leucate, France

From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Ian Shepherd
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 6:53 PM
To: Amel Owners Group
Subject: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure

When I started to unfurl the main this morning, the out-haul moved about
a foot rearwards then stopped with an odd sounding noise. I stripped the
gearbox down and found that the large gear driven by the helical gear on
the motor axis had all but worn away. Play around the motor driven end
of the drive shaft may have been a contributing cause.

What surprised me was the lack of lubrication inside the gearbox. There
seemed to be hardly any grease at all. Having read on this forum ideas
about fitting grease nipples to the genoa gearbox, I would suggest that
it would also be a good idea to do so to the out-haul and main furling
gearboxes as well. There seems to be ample space to do so.

For expediency as I am in the middle of a cruise I shall order a new
gearbox from Amel and rebuild the failed one as a spare over the winter.
I would guess that the large bronze gear is a custom Amel part, or does
anyone know if it can be obtained elsewhere?

Ian Shepherd SM 414 (2003) Crusader - Gulf of Volos Greece




Re: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure

Ian Shepherd
 

Hi Eric,

yes I do the same with the shaft. Getting it apart was no problem. Using
the autoprop adapter is a very good idea as is plugging the holes with
nylon bolts. Do you pump grease in from both sides or pump from the
bottom and let the air out from the top?

I find Corrosion Block grease very good in fighting problems caused by
sea water.

Regards

Ian SM414 Crusader (2003) Gulf of Volos

On 16/08/2013 17:42, Sailorman wrote:

Ian,

In a previous post today I suggested using the autoprop grease nipple
adapter and 5 mm nylon bolts.

No corrosion !!! also , once you have the gearbox disassembled you can see
where to mount the bolts. I mounted one low in the port side and the other
one high on the starboard.

Do not overfill otherwise you will blow the lips seals out of the gearbox.

Every 6 months I also remove the outhaul shaft and coat it with antiseize
lubricant.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

_____

From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Ian Shepherd
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:53 PM
To: Amel Owners Group
Subject: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure

When I started to unfurl the main this morning, the out-haul moved about
a foot rearwards then stopped with an odd sounding noise. I stripped the
gearbox down and found that the large gear driven by the helical gear on
the motor axis had all but worn away. Play around the motor driven end
of the drive shaft may have been a contributing cause.

What surprised me was the lack of lubrication inside the gearbox. There
seemed to be hardly any grease at all. Having read on this forum ideas
about fitting grease nipples to the genoa gearbox, I would suggest that
it would also be a good idea to do so to the out-haul and main furling
gearboxes as well. There seems to be ample space to do so.

For expediency as I am in the middle of a cruise I shall order a new
gearbox from Amel and rebuild the failed one as a spare over the winter.
I would guess that the large bronze gear is a custom Amel part, or does
anyone know if it can be obtained elsewhere?

Ian Shepherd SM 414 (2003) Crusader - Gulf of Volos Greece

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solar panels on alem 54

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Tony,

Attached are a few photos of a nice rig saw on a 54 in st martin.

Solar panels ,dingy davits, and wind generator a in one

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite




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Change calorifier heating element in Amel 54

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

________________________________

Hello all.

Has anyone changed the immersion heater in the hot water tank on their Amel 54 ? Any hints/recommendations would be most welcome.

Tony Robinson

Catriona R Amel 54 no. 102


Solar panels for Amel 54

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

Hi everyone.

Has anybody fitted solar panels to their Amel 54 ?  I would welcome any thoughts/recommendations. I had two 50W panels on my last boat - an OVNI 435 - and I thought they were the best bit of kit on the boat. The batteries were kept topped up throughout the winter and with 4/5 amps being delivered for most of the day in summer they provided a useful supplement to the other means of charging i.e. the engine.

Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54  no.102



________________________________
From: Duncan <wdhagemeyer@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Battery Plan for Amel 54



 
Hi Richard,

Mine is 009. And has a 12 battery/12V bank.

Do you have any suggestions regarding inverters, or smart control panels? I am learning from my cabin experience that there are many types.

Duncan

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Richard03801
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 1:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Battry Plan for Amel 54

Battery size for the later boats is size 31.

Regards
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Aug 7, 2013, at 13:36, "wdhagemeyer" <wdhagemeyer@... <mailto:wdhagemeyer%40gmail.com> > wrote:

I would like any input on a new battery plan for the A54 I have just started a solar program for a cabin and I have been advised that 6 volt 200 ah Trojans are the way to go for this off grid mountain cabin. The vendor is telling me these are low maintenance and will withstand even -30F temps. It would seem that this might be a good choice for the boat as well? I do not recall the size of the 12V batteries. I searched for a file or link to other posts that would also cover all aspects of the boats electrical system. I would appreciate any suggestions.



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Re: [Amel] Re: Yahoo Groups may become a thing of the past

Patrick McAneny
 

As Kent I can offer little in the formation of a new site, but would also
be more than willing to contribute to the cost. Even if this site could
continue with Yahoo into the future, if another site could be created that would
serve the members better ,then maybe as a group we should try to form a
consensus to determine if there is interest in doing so. For me the cost would
more than offset by the value I receive from this site. Thats my two cents,
for what its worth,and it won't buy you much.

Pat

SM Shenanigans


Re: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

Ian,

In a previous post today I suggested using the autoprop grease nipple
adapter and 5 mm nylon bolts.

No corrosion !!! also , once you have the gearbox disassembled you can see
where to mount the bolts. I mounted one low in the port side and the other
one high on the starboard.

Do not overfill otherwise you will blow the lips seals out of the gearbox.



Every 6 months I also remove the outhaul shaft and coat it with antiseize
lubricant.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite







_____

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ian Shepherd
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:53 PM
To: Amel Owners Group
Subject: [Amel] Outhaul Gearbox Failure





When I started to unfurl the main this morning, the out-haul moved about
a foot rearwards then stopped with an odd sounding noise. I stripped the
gearbox down and found that the large gear driven by the helical gear on
the motor axis had all but worn away. Play around the motor driven end
of the drive shaft may have been a contributing cause.

What surprised me was the lack of lubrication inside the gearbox. There
seemed to be hardly any grease at all. Having read on this forum ideas
about fitting grease nipples to the genoa gearbox, I would suggest that
it would also be a good idea to do so to the out-haul and main furling
gearboxes as well. There seems to be ample space to do so.

For expediency as I am in the middle of a cruise I shall order a new
gearbox from Amel and rebuild the failed one as a spare over the winter.
I would guess that the large bronze gear is a custom Amel part, or does
anyone know if it can be obtained elsewhere?

Ian Shepherd SM 414 (2003) Crusader - Gulf of Volos Greece




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Re: [Amel] Water Maker End Caps

Ian Shepherd
 

Hi Dany,

only O rings supplied by Dessalator have been used so there is more than
) ring size to this not uncommon problem. Compared to other brands of
water makers that I have seen, the cross tube with 4 O rings is a very
agricultural arrangement. Sleeving the holes with a stainless insert (if
feasible) would have improved the situation considerably. Proper
threaded connectors and high pressure pipe or hose would have been even
better. I will try and get the latter made up by a local engineering
firm when I return to Cyprus.

Crawling over the generator, valves and motors to remove the water maker
assembly for the third time now is not on my bucket list.

Cheers

Ian Shepherd SM 414 (2003) Crusader

On 16/08/2013 03:44, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS wrote:

Hi,
We too had the end cap split there, once. I think the size of the O
ring used on the steel cross piece is critical, too large and it puts
excessive pressure on the plastic. When ours failed I had forced a too
large O ring in. The way an O ring works is that it should be a snug
fit, not over tight. When the pressure comes on it is forced agaist
the side of the groove away from the pressure, expands and seals, the
more pressure the more force against the side of the groove, the more
expansion. Obviously this won't work if it is too small.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Still in Fiji


________________________________
From: Giovanni Testa <gtesta23@... <mailto:gtesta23%40tin.it>>
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Water Maker End Caps




Hi to all,
I had to replace, in 10 years, twice the caps for this problem. At the
end Dessalator sent me a new connection, some mm shorter . Now the
water pressure doesn't find any obstacle to the flow and so no
corrosion on the cap.
I hope it may help
Buon Vento
Gianni Testa
sv EUTIKIA SM 428
----- Original Message -----
From: Ian Shepherd
To: Amel Owners Group
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 6:45 AM
Subject: [Amel] Water Maker End Caps

For the third time now, one of the membrane end caps has sprung a leak
on my 160 l/h water maker. I only noticed this when hunting for some
grease to give to another boat as the far end of the membranes is close
to the portside hull. Some some storage boxes kept in that area were
full of salt water. As before, the leak has occurred where the steel
cross tube enters the end caps. This push fit arrangement seems at best
amateurish and Dessalator are well aware of the problem for when I
ordered new caps from them the last time, they said that the new black
material would not fail. Sadly not.

I think it's time to get something more robust made to cure this
problem.. End caps with proper screw fittings and a connecting hose or
pipe come to mind. Has anyone done this or maybe found ready made caps
that will do the job please?

Ian Shepherd SM 414 (2003) Crusader - Northern Sporades



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Re: [Amel] Re: Yahoo Groups may become a thing of the past

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

I have the necessary IT background and would be happy to help out with this also, also I have a commercial server that could be used if necessary. I think the first thing though would be list the key requirements for a new forum / site – I know that image free low volume emailing is one for those receiving emails while cruising, also wonder if features like dropbox / skydrive syncing of files and images might be useful so that we can take all those useful articles, documents and pictures with us before leaving? I know that I copy a lot of documents onto dropbox and then into my Ipad so I have them to hand while onboard.

Andrew


Ronpische
SM2k 472
Port Leucate, France



From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 5:02 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Yahoo Groups may become a thing of the past



I like Mark's idea about having different threads about different subjects. One could go to one page and read all posts about that subject.
We'd have to be much more careful about changing the subject in a single post. Having files and photos linked to the corresponding thread would be great.
I'd be willing to pay a yearly fee and even to pay a share of what it would cost to have someone set it up.
Unfortunately I am not programming-savvy and will be of little or no help with the technical aspects of building a site. I'd be happy to take a subject or two and try to search the archives to find posts that cover similar subjects of that would help.
Kent
SM243 Kristy
Brunswick, GA USA
On Aug 16, 2013, at 9:42 AM, "Mark Erdos" <mcerdos@...<mailto:mcerdos%40gmail.com>> wrote:

Personally, I get so much from this group. Being a newbie, I am still in the
stage of receiving more than I can contribute. Thank you to all those that
give!!!!

If someone were to host this as a membership web-site - I would be willing
to pay a small annual membership to help cover the cost. I would envision a
format similar to Cruiser's Forum where topics could be categorized, and
pictures added within posting. A CF member can subscribe to a thread of
interest, or not. That would be a nice feature.

One of the areas I really like and utilize on the yahoo format is the
"files" section. Google groups or no others that I'm aware of don't offer
this feature. On a privately hosted site we would have a lot more storage
and could organize the archives.

There are almost a 1,000 members on the yahoo group. Even if only 10% are
active and moved to a private site, the annual cost split amongst the
members would be pretty small.

There - that's my 2 cents

Best regards,

Mark

SM2K #275

www.creampuff.us<http://www.creampuff.us>