Date   

Re: [Amel] Re: dolphin desulphation program

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

There was an switch witch 2 positions near the supply cables.

Not that my Dolphin charger has been put in the been due to too bad quality !!!!
jlm
--------------------------------------

Le 20/01/2014 10:33, divanz620@... a écrit :
Hi Danny and Gary,

My Dolphin chargers don't seem to have this selector for different
battery types and most importantly the desulphation mode...at least I
can't see it

Could someone post a pic of this selector switch to show where it is ??

Cheers

Alan

SV Elyse SM437...currently in Opua, NZ


Re: dolphin desulphation program

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Danny and Gary,

 

My Dolphin chargers don't seem to have this selector for different battery types and most importantly the desulphation mode...at least I can't see it

 

Could someone post a pic of this selector switch to show where it is  ??

 

Cheers

Alan

SV Elyse SM437...currently in Opua, NZ

 


Re: [Amel] Re: dolphin desulphation program

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Thanks Gary.
Danny

From: amelliahona
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, 20 January 2014 4:08 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: dolphin desulphation program
 
Danny:  

Your description encouraged me to search out and find the English Version of the Dolphin Charger manual as I only had the original French version that came with my boat when new and did not have any information that I could see regarding the equalization capability. I didn't see that this was posted elsewhere so her is a link to that manual:

http://www.scandvik.com/images/Catalogs/1260-1280-2430-2450%20manual%20-%20ENGLISH.pdf

I am hoping that the link comes thru ok. 

Sincerely, 

Gary Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000
Hull # 335
Currently - Jolly Harbor, Antigua


Re: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Kent:


I inspected my fresh water tanks as I re-commissioned my boat after hurricane storage for 6 months and found an even more serious case of black mold spots.  Having read of the 2 month treatment with two gallons of Chlorox (seemed drastic and way beyond my prior treatments that met with limited success), I decided to go for it.   However, I only had 72 hours while the boat was in the yard having some work done.  Yet in those 72 hours the tanks were 99.9 % clear of black mold or any other visible contamination.  As I pumped out the treatment water, there was a semi floating layer of material in the bottom of the tank (I presume the dead biologic material) that I sucked out and rinsed out repeatedly until clear.  I had previously tried scrubbing off those black spots with Spray 9 etc with little success. I was astounded at how completely and quickly the tanks looked pristine.  I am guessing that an additional 24 hours (total of 96 hrs) would have completely eliminated the remaining few spots.  Thanks for the "High Concentration" treatment recommendation.  After rinsing the tanks, I then filled them with dock water that I ran through a charcoal filtered.  I filled the tanks completely until water came out the overflow drain on the dip-stick stand-pipe.  A word of caution here, the overflow line is small and if you are filling the tank too quickly the water will overwhelm the overflow and come out the top of the stand-pipe, (no need to ask me how I know this). 


My new routine will be 2 gallons of Chlorox, fill tanks to tip top, wait as long as possible up to 4-5 days, drain, flush, fill, drain, and repeat every year when I commission the boat.  


This group is such a great resource.


Thanks to all who have contributed, 


Gary Silver

s/v Liahona

Amel SM 2000

Hull # 335

Currently in Jolly Harbor, Antigua


Re: dolphin desulphation program

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Danny:  


Your description encouraged me to search out and find the English Version of the Dolphin Charger manual as I only had the original French version that came with my boat when new and did not have any information that I could see regarding the equalization capability. I didn't see that this was posted elsewhere so her is a link to that manual:


http://www.scandvik.com/images/Catalogs/1260-1280-2430-2450%20manual%20-%20ENGLISH.pdf


I am hoping that the link comes thru ok. 


Sincerely, 


Gary Silver

s/v Liahona

Amel SM 2000

Hull # 335

Currently - Jolly Harbor, Antigua


Re: dolphin desulphation program

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Alexandre.
Please understand I offer the below as a layman with no particular training other than years on the water. It is over to you, I can make no guarantees 
I have got the manual from the boat. Your questions first. The process lasts less than two hours. For safety it is best to turn off all you can, particularly electronic items and instruments radios etc, they tend to be very sensitive to voltage fluctuations.This process is for standard wet or flooded electrolyte batteries, or non sealed lead acid batteries as they are also known.
 
Note Start with the batteries as fully charged as you can get them.This is so the sulphation program doesn't have to charge discharged batteries first. Ensure that the electolyte levels are full as some will be gassed off in the process.
 
Remove all the filler caps as the batteries will "boil" and gas with be released. Close the lid on the battery chamber so fumes don't go out through the boat, they are inflammable. Ensure the breather vent tube from the battery chamber is clear.
 
During the desulphation periodically lift the lid to check on the batteries, how hot are they? Is there sufficient electrolyte?
 
Remove the cover at the bottom of the front of the dolphin charger. You have a 50 amp and a 30 amp?, use the larger.  Find the small dial at the top left of the area uncovered.For lead acid non sealed wet batteries it should be on 00. Turn this to 09. Start the gen set or turn on shore power and close the breaker to start the dolphin. On the front of the unit there is a button labelled Mode. Hold this down for two seconds to start the process.
 
Over an hour the batteries should build up to 34 volts and maintain that level for half an hour. Then shut down the charger and stop the genset. In my case the first time they got no higher than 31 volts, perhaps depends on the state of the batteries, still got a good result.
 
During the process the LEDs on the dolphin should be:  On position dial 09 Sulphation boost: power on, boost flashing, temp flashing,bat flashing, fuse flashing. 1 hr max. Then sulphation float, (should progress to this automatically) LED power on, float flashing, temp flashing, bat flashing, fuse flashing. The float period should be half the time of the boost.
 
The manual says: Regarding choice of position 9 Sulphation Recovery Program it is recommended to begin the cycle in the presence of a technician who can if necessary, stop the program quickly. Serious risk of battery over heating and discharge of noxious gasses.
 
However if you think about it, the program is stopped by simply turning the charger off which any one can do. I guess it is the judgement as to whether the program needs to stop is the issue. There is a lot of bubbling action in the batteries, they get quite warm to touch and gas is produced, that is how they are de-sulphated.
 
With all this, if I don't like it, I turn it off
 
When the process is complete return the dial to 00 and replace the front cover.
 
There is also a lesser equalisation program that is started with the dial in its normal lead acid non sealed position of 00. It takes two hours and is activated by pressing mode for 2 seconds. The LED display for this is Power on, Boost flashing.
.
The best desulphation I have had with quite remarkable improvement in battery performance was motor-sailing into 25 knots of wind on the nose for about 8 hours. Of course the engine driven alternator was going and the 350 watt super wind wind generator was humming going head on into that much wind. It has a dump fuction to some heater elements if the battery voltage gets to 28.4 volts. There is a buzzer that sounds. It was going almost continuously for the 8 hours. 
Hope this helps
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
Mangonui
New Zealand

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar
To: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Sunday, 19 January 2014 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: dolphin desulphation program

Good morning Danny,

Thank you so much!!!  Can't wait to read this, I didn't see anything on the Dolphin owner manual... 
How long does the process last?  Just asking since you mention I need to switch off all 24 volt devices (which include my fridge and freezer as well as fresh water pump).
Thanks againm, have a great weekend!  Sincerely, Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Fri, 1/17/14, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Subject: dolphin desulphation program
To: "Alexandre Uster von Baar" <uster@...>
Date: Friday, January 17, 2014, 6:15 PM

Hi
Alexandre,It will be there but it is
not clearly explained. I will get my copy next time I
am on the boat (a few days) and respond in detail. You
remove the bottom panel on the face of the dolphin and there
is a very small dial there with a screw slot in it.(top
left) The dial is numbered 0 to 9 and you select a
number to suit your battery type.. eg flooded lead acid, gel,
etc. If the dial is on the wrong number you will not get the
right charge pattern. (first thing you should check) Any way
the equalisation/desulphation program is one of those
numbers. I will come back to you when I have the
instructions in front of
me.CheersDanny
SM 299 Ocean
PearlMangonuiNew
Zealand
 
     
From:
Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
  To:
simms@...
  Sent:
Saturday, 18 January 2014 7:13 AM
  Subject: Re:
[Amel] Link 10 clear/detailed instruction on how to set up
   
Hello Danny,

We almost
have the same boat, I have #289.
I looked at
the owner
  manual of the Dolphin chargers (mine are original) and I
did not see any desulphation programe.... 
Could you help me to find out how to do it?
Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre


--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 1/16/14, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

  Subject: Re: [Amel] Link 10
clear/detailed instruction on how to set up

To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>
  Date: Thursday, January 16,
  2014, 11:03 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
  
 
 
    
   
  
      
       Hi

Alexandre,my lead acid golf cart
  type
batteries are over 5 years old and going well. When
  sulphates buiild up on the plates the
charge cannot get
  through and we get what
seems a quick charge to full volts
  but
infact the charge has not penetrated fully into the
  plates
  because of the sulphation. The result, the batteries
  lose their charge quickly. This can occur
within one year as
  it did with mine
and I thought the batteries were

beginning to fail. . The answer, desulphation which is a
  controlled period of "overcharging",
voltage can
  go as high as 35 volts during
this process and the batteries

"boil". (Turn off all connections and remove
the
  caps from the batteries)The dolphin
chargers have a
  desulphation programe.
Elsewhere the process can be known as

equalisation. I know people who have
  got 15 years life from lead acid
batteries by using this

process.RegardsDannySM299
  Ocean
  pearlmangonui New

zealand 
       

  From:
  Alexandre Uster von
Baar <uster@...>
  To:
  amelyachtowners@...
  Sent: Friday,
  17
January 2014 1:31 PM
  Subject:
  [Amel] Link 10 clear/detailed instruction on
how to set up
   
   
 
 
 
  
 
 
    
      
 
    
      
 
  Could anyone please send me
"detailed" (step by
  step) instructions on how to set or reset
(volt, etc.) the
  Link 10 on the 24 Volt
panel? 
 
  I am a bit
frustrated my batteries are "NEW" from
  last Feb and I can charge them less and less
(now only 88%
  max). 


  I believe I made an error on the Link 10
(I think on the
  voltage). 
 
 
 
  Any advice to save these Deep Cycle lead
batteries?  Or
  should I just get some
one one before my Bahamas trip? 
 
 
 
  Thanks in
advance,
 
  Sincerely,
Alexandre 713-412-6704
 

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
 
  Stock
Island Marina - Key West, FL - USA
 
 
 
  By the
way, I highly recommend Stock Island Marina, not
  exactly in Key West's Hot spot, but NEW,
totally redone
  3 months ago, pump out plug,
etc. and much more reasonnable
  $1280/month
(for 53' sailboat) versus $3000 to $4400 in
  various Key West marinas (like A&B,
Briggs, etc.).
 
 
 
    
     
 
    
   

 
 
 
   
 
 
  
     
 
    
    


 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?

Veit Mueller <veitm@...>
 

Hi Alexandre:

No, the rates are different, but we found the total to come out to a similar amount.
I agree: no water and meter electric.
By the way, if you go to the Bimini Beach Club (South Bimini) it is $50+10 per day....go in after mid tide in an incoming tide.

Cheers,
Veit

Ps: our boat will. Be in in Ft lauderdale until end Feb...then in Lucaya I think...

Sent from my vm iPad

On Jan 19, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

 


Good morning Veit,
All the other marinas in Bimini charge $30/day for electricity??? That is horrible ($900/month only on electricity)

Are you in Freeport now? This is where I am heading after Bimini, will be in the Bahamas for 7 months. Would love to meet you!

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 1/19/14, Veit Mueller <veitm@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Sunday, January 19, 2014, 3:41 AM
















 









Hi Alexandre:
I asked them just 2 weeks ago when we were in
Bimini - pretty similar reply - the other marinas on Bimini
are all about the same overall price. Freeport is
less.
Cheers,VeitSM215 ATMAN

Sent from my vm iPad
On Jan 19, 2014, at 12:06 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar
<uster@...>
wrote:
















 






Hello Stephanie,



I noted the marina you recommend for Freeport.

$12.00 per 1.000 gallon and 41 t0 45 cents/kwh seems very
reasonnable to me.



I just don't understand what the Bimini Big Game Club is
thinking - or may be they think I am some idiot.

So looking for recommendations for other marinas in Bimini
for the moment.

My next trip will be to Freeport (Bahamas).



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 1/18/14, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini
Bahamas?

To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 3:27 PM

































 



















Just to give you an idea of what actual

utilities cost the homeowner in Freeport, water is $12.00

per 1,000 gallons -- probably the cheapest in the Bahamas
--

and our electricity is about 41 to 44 cents/kwh depending
on

the cost of the fuel adjustment.  We have our own
dock

in back of our house, but before we did, we stayed at a

marina that does not charge for water and the electricity

was metered.

Hope this helps!

 Fair winds!

Stephanie DiBelardinoSM 353, currently being

re-namedLying in Coral Bay, along the Grand

Lucaya Waterway

On Jan 18, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar
<uster@...>

wrote:

































 

















I am just curious to know why has stayed at the Bimini Big

Game Club in (Bimini) Bahamas?



I just book a month, very reasonnable $600.



But then I looked and called back, they want $30 a day for

electricity (that is $900/month) and $20/day for water
(that

is $600).



I said no, this is for transcient slip, not when you stay

for a month, usually it is meter whatever cents per Kw and

liter of gallon.



Not to mention the employe "Laverne" was prety

annoyed when ask questions such as: type of connection is

this the 125/250 Volt 50 Amp we get in the US, since they

don't have pump out, what do people do? (go 3 miles
and

dump it)?







So, I would like to know who stayed (for a long time) and

what was their experience.







For example the Sands Marina in South Bomini charges
$10/day

for electricity and water is $0.35/gallon (unfortunately
the

marina is $2400 for the month).







Any other recommendation of Marinas?







Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Stock Island Marina, Key West, FL - USA
















































































































Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all, electricity at that price puts the case for solar panels and a wind generator. I have both and unless I want aircon don't need shore power. If there is a deficit on any day a quick run with the gen set tops up.
Cheers
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl

From: Alexandre Uster von Baar
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Monday, 20 January 2014 3:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?
 

Good morning Veit,
All the other marinas in Bimini charge $30/day for electricity??? That is horrible ($900/month only on electricity)

Are you in Freeport now? This is where I am heading after Bimini, will be in the Bahamas for 7 months. Would love to meet you!

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sun, 1/19/14, Veit Mueller wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Date: Sunday, January 19, 2014, 3:41 AM
















 









Hi Alexandre:
I asked them just 2 weeks ago when we were in
Bimini - pretty similar reply - the other marinas on Bimini
are all about the same overall price. Freeport is
less.
Cheers,VeitSM215 ATMAN

Sent from my vm iPad
On Jan 19, 2014, at 12:06 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar

wrote:
















 






Hello Stephanie,



I noted the marina you recommend for Freeport.

$12.00 per 1.000 gallon and 41 t0 45 cents/kwh seems very
reasonnable to me.



I just don't understand what the Bimini Big Game Club is
thinking - or may be they think I am some idiot.

So looking for recommendations for other marinas in Bimini
for the moment.

My next trip will be to Freeport (Bahamas).



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 1/18/14, Stephanie DiBelardino
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini
Bahamas?

To: "amelyachtowners@..."


Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 3:27 PM

































 



















Just to give you an idea of what actual

utilities cost the homeowner in Freeport, water is $12.00

per 1,000 gallons -- probably the cheapest in the Bahamas
--

and our electricity is about 41 to 44 cents/kwh depending
on

the cost of the fuel adjustment.  We have our own
dock

in back of our house, but before we did, we stayed at a

marina that does not charge for water and the electricity

was metered.

Hope this helps!

 Fair winds!

Stephanie DiBelardinoSM 353, currently being

re-namedLying in Coral Bay, along the Grand

Lucaya Waterway

On Jan 18, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar


wrote:

































 

















I am just curious to know why has stayed at the Bimini Big

Game Club in (Bimini) Bahamas?



I just book a month, very reasonnable $600.



But then I looked and called back, they want $30 a day for

electricity (that is $900/month) and $20/day for water
(that

is $600).



I said no, this is for transcient slip, not when you stay

for a month, usually it is meter whatever cents per Kw and

liter of gallon.



Not to mention the employe "Laverne" was prety

annoyed when ask questions such as: type of connection is

this the 125/250 Volt 50 Amp we get in the US, since they

don't have pump out, what do people do? (go 3 miles
and

dump it)?







So, I would like to know who stayed (for a long time) and

what was their experience.







For example the Sands Marina in South Bomini charges
$10/day

for electricity and water is $0..35/gallon (unfortunately
the

marina is $2400 for the month).







Any other recommendation of Marinas?







Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Stock Island Marina, Key West, FL - USA
















































































































Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Veit,
All the other marinas in Bimini charge $30/day for electricity??? That is horrible ($900/month only on electricity)

Are you in Freeport now? This is where I am heading after Bimini, will be in the Bahamas for 7 months. Would love to meet you!

Sincerely, Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 1/19/14, Veit Mueller <veitm@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Sunday, January 19, 2014, 3:41 AM
















 









Hi Alexandre:
I asked them just 2 weeks ago when we were in
Bimini - pretty similar reply - the other marinas on Bimini
are all about the same overall price. Freeport is
less.
Cheers,VeitSM215 ATMAN

Sent from my vm iPad
On Jan 19, 2014, at 12:06 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar
<uster@...>
wrote:
















 






Hello Stephanie,



I noted the marina you recommend for Freeport.

$12.00 per 1.000 gallon and 41 t0 45 cents/kwh seems very
reasonnable to me.



I just don't understand what the Bimini Big Game Club is
thinking - or may be they think I am some idiot.

So looking for recommendations for other marinas in Bimini
for the moment.

My next trip will be to Freeport (Bahamas).



Sincerely, Alexandre



--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 1/18/14, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
wrote:



Subject: Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini
Bahamas?

To: "amelyachtowners@..."
<amelyachtowners@...>

Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 3:27 PM

































 



















Just to give you an idea of what actual

utilities cost the homeowner in Freeport, water is $12.00

per 1,000 gallons -- probably the cheapest in the Bahamas
--

and our electricity is about 41 to 44 cents/kwh depending
on

the cost of the fuel adjustment.  We have our own
dock

in back of our house, but before we did, we stayed at a

marina that does not charge for water and the electricity

was metered.

Hope this helps!

 Fair winds!

Stephanie DiBelardinoSM 353, currently being

re-namedLying in Coral Bay, along the Grand

Lucaya Waterway

On Jan 18, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar
<uster@...>

wrote:

































 

















I am just curious to know why has stayed at the Bimini Big

Game Club in (Bimini) Bahamas?



I just book a month, very reasonnable $600.



But then I looked and called back, they want $30 a day for

electricity (that is $900/month) and $20/day for water
(that

is $600).



I said no, this is for transcient slip, not when you stay

for a month, usually it is meter whatever cents per Kw and

liter of gallon.



Not to mention the employe "Laverne" was prety

annoyed when ask questions such as: type of connection is

this the 125/250 Volt 50 Amp we get in the US, since they

don't have pump out, what do people do? (go 3 miles
and

dump it)?







So, I would like to know who stayed (for a long time) and

what was their experience.







For example the Sands Marina in South Bomini charges
$10/day

for electricity and water is $0.35/gallon (unfortunately
the

marina is $2400 for the month).







Any other recommendation of Marinas?







Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT



Stock Island Marina, Key West, FL - USA


Electric motors Santorin

a.diezrv@...
 

Hello everybody, I am the owner of Santorin 29, and I want to buy the two electric motors and reducteur for main roller and outhaul for my boat.
The electric motor we have now are Cima 300w and 1000w, 12 volt.
The reducteur are Bonfiglioli MVF 44.

I have try with Amel, Cima and Leroy Sommer, with no success at the moment.
Das any of you now where can I find these items in Europe?
Best regards for all of you: Antonio Diez


Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?

Veit Mueller <veitm@...>
 

Hi Alexandre:

I asked them just 2 weeks ago when we were in Bimini - pretty similar reply - the other marinas on Bimini are all about the same overall price. Freeport is less.

Cheers,
Veit
SM215 ATMAN

Sent from my vm iPad

On Jan 19, 2014, at 12:06 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

 

Hello Stephanie,

I noted the marina you recommend for Freeport.
$12.00 per 1.000 gallon and 41 t0 45 cents/kwh seems very reasonnable to me.

I just don't understand what the Bimini Big Game Club is thinking - or may be they think I am some idiot.
So looking for recommendations for other marinas in Bimini for the moment.
My next trip will be to Freeport (Bahamas).

Sincerely, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 1/18/14, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 3:27 PM
















 









Just to give you an idea of what actual
utilities cost the homeowner in Freeport, water is $12.00
per 1,000 gallons -- probably the cheapest in the Bahamas --
and our electricity is about 41 to 44 cents/kwh depending on
the cost of the fuel adjustment.  We have our own dock
in back of our house, but before we did, we stayed at a
marina that does not charge for water and the electricity
was metered.
Hope this helps!
 Fair winds!
Stephanie DiBelardinoSM 353, currently being
re-namedLying in Coral Bay, along the Grand
Lucaya Waterway
On Jan 18, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
wrote:
















 








I am just curious to know why has stayed at the Bimini Big
Game Club in (Bimini) Bahamas?

I just book a month, very reasonnable $600.

But then I looked and called back, they want $30 a day for
electricity (that is $900/month) and $20/day for water (that
is $600).

I said no, this is for transcient slip, not when you stay
for a month, usually it is meter whatever cents per Kw and
liter of gallon.

Not to mention the employe "Laverne" was prety
annoyed when ask questions such as: type of connection is
this the 125/250 Volt 50 Amp we get in the US, since they
don't have pump out, what do people do? (go 3 miles and
dump it)?



So, I would like to know who stayed (for a long time) and
what was their experience.



For example the Sands Marina in South Bomini charges $10/day
for electricity and water is $0.35/gallon (unfortunately the
marina is $2400 for the month).



Any other recommendation of Marinas?



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Stock Island Marina, Key West, FL - USA






































Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?

Mark Erdos
 

Alex,

 

We have stayed there about 2 years ago. It is a first class facility. We did not use water. It is metered. We entered with full tanks. The bathrooms/showers are clean and are located nearby. They have 220 50 amp power. $30/day seems a little steep but I think that is about what we paid. Did you check to see if they have a monthly electric rate?

 

There are other facilities there. You could check ActiveCaptain.com to see what others have said about the other options.

 

Best regards,

 

Mark

 

SM2K #275

www.creampuff.us

 

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 4:03 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?

 

 


I am just curious to know why has stayed at the Bimini Big Game Club in (Bimini) Bahamas?
I just book a month, very reasonnable $600.
But then I looked and called back, they want $30 a day for electricity (that is $900/month) and $20/day for water (that is $600).
I said no, this is for transcient slip, not when you stay for a month, usually it is meter whatever cents per Kw and liter of gallon.
Not to mention the employe "Laverne" was prety annoyed when ask questions such as: type of connection is this the 125/250 Volt 50 Amp we get in the US, since they don't have pump out, what do people do? (go 3 miles and dump it)?

So, I would like to know who stayed (for a long time) and what was their experience.

For example the Sands Marina in South Bomini charges $10/day for electricity and water is $0.35/gallon (unfortunately the marina is $2400 for the month).

Any other recommendation of Marinas?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Stock Island Marina, Key West, FL - USA


Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Stephanie,

I noted the marina you recommend for Freeport.
$12.00 per 1.000 gallon and 41 t0 45 cents/kwh seems very reasonnable to me.

I just don't understand what the Bimini Big Game Club is thinking - or may be they think I am some idiot.
So looking for recommendations for other marinas in Bimini for the moment.
My next trip will be to Freeport (Bahamas).

Sincerely, Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Sat, 1/18/14, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Saturday, January 18, 2014, 3:27 PM
















 









Just to give you an idea of what actual
utilities cost the homeowner in Freeport, water is $12.00
per 1,000 gallons -- probably the cheapest in the Bahamas --
and our electricity is about 41 to 44 cents/kwh depending on
the cost of the fuel adjustment.  We have our own dock
in back of our house, but before we did, we stayed at a
marina that does not charge for water and the electricity
was metered.
Hope this helps!
 Fair winds!
Stephanie DiBelardinoSM 353, currently being
re-namedLying in Coral Bay, along the Grand
Lucaya Waterway
On Jan 18, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
wrote:
















 








I am just curious to know why has stayed at the Bimini Big
Game Club in (Bimini) Bahamas?

I just book a month, very reasonnable $600.

But then I looked and called back, they want $30 a day for
electricity (that is $900/month) and $20/day for water (that
is $600).

I said no, this is for transcient slip, not when you stay
for a month, usually it is meter whatever cents per Kw and
liter of gallon.

Not to mention the employe "Laverne" was prety
annoyed when ask questions such as: type of connection is
this the 125/250 Volt 50 Amp we get in the US, since they
don't have pump out, what do people do? (go 3 miles and
dump it)?



So, I would like to know who stayed (for a long time) and
what was their experience.



For example the Sands Marina in South Bomini charges $10/day
for electricity and water is $0.35/gallon (unfortunately the
marina is $2400 for the month).



Any other recommendation of Marinas?



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Stock Island Marina, Key West, FL - USA


Re: [Amel] Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?

Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...>
 

Just to give you an idea of what actual utilities cost the homeowner in Freeport, water is $12.00 per 1,000 gallons -- probably the cheapest in the Bahamas -- and our electricity is about 41 to 44 cents/kwh depending on the cost of the fuel adjustment.  We have our own dock in back of our house, but before we did, we stayed at a marina that does not charge for water and the electricity was metered.

Hope this helps!
 
Fair winds!
Stephanie DiBelardino
SM 353, currently being re-named
Lying in Coral Bay, along the Grand Lucaya Waterway

On Jan 18, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

 


I am just curious to know why has stayed at the Bimini Big Game Club in (Bimini) Bahamas?
I just book a month, very reasonnable $600.
But then I looked and called back, they want $30 a day for electricity (that is $900/month) and $20/day for water (that is $600).
I said no, this is for transcient slip, not when you stay for a month, usually it is meter whatever cents per Kw and liter of gallon.
Not to mention the employe "Laverne" was prety annoyed when ask questions such as: type of connection is this the 125/250 Volt 50 Amp we get in the US, since they don't have pump out, what do people do? (go 3 miles and dump it)?

So, I would like to know who stayed (for a long time) and what was their experience.

For example the Sands Marina in South Bomini charges $10/day for electricity and water is $0.35/gallon (unfortunately the marina is $2400 for the month).

Any other recommendation of Marinas?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Stock Island Marina, Key West, FL - USA


Who has stayed at Marinas in Bimini Bahamas?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

I am just curious to know why has stayed at the Bimini Big Game Club in (Bimini) Bahamas?
I just book a month, very reasonnable $600.
But then I looked and called back, they want $30 a day for electricity (that is $900/month) and $20/day for water (that is $600).
I said no, this is for transcient slip, not when you stay for a month, usually it is meter whatever cents per Kw and liter of gallon.
Not to mention the employe "Laverne" was prety annoyed when ask questions such as: type of connection is this the 125/250 Volt 50 Amp we get in the US, since they don't have pump out, what do people do? (go 3 miles and dump it)?

So, I would like to know who stayed (for a long time) and what was their experience.

For example the Sands Marina in South Bomini charges $10/day for electricity and water is $0.35/gallon (unfortunately the marina is $2400 for the month).

Any other recommendation of Marinas?

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Stock Island Marina, Key West, FL - USA


Re: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

Mark Erdos
 

Aeroyacht is standing firm on their rudder design and construction ”Unfortunately no rudder is designed to suddenly lurch into reverse and have 10 Tons of torque applied to them”. http://www.aeroyacht.com/2014/01/16/rogue-wave/

 

I found the article by Doane to be a good read: http://www.sailfeed.com/2014/01/helicopter-evacuation-abandoning-be-good-too/comment-page-1/#comment-709

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Mark

 

SM2K #275

www.creampuff.us

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ric Gottschalk
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:05 PM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: RE: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

 

 

Further investigation reveals 4 crew including Hank Schmidt of OPO and that the boat was Hull #1 of an Alpha 42 with serious flaws in the rudder connection. The article from Sailfeed defines the problem and has photos. Doane from Sail magazine and Schmidt from OPO are pro skippers.

Ric

SN24

Bali Hai

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ric Gottschalk
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 10:01 AM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: RE: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

 

 

Wonder if I could get the lat/long on the boat? Perfect salvage. Motors ok, mast up with furled sails, boat floating on its lines and the 3 idiots off the boat.

Ric

SN24 Bali Hai

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Stephanie DiBelardino
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 8:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

 

 

In our case, the boat (a 43' Nauticat) was on autopilot, and we were in the cockpit.  By the time we had turned 180, the autopilot was on standby and my husband was at the wheel, but to no avail.  

Stephanie DiBelardino


On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

In big seas and close to the wind it's easy to get headed and find yourself doing a 360 if you aren't sitting at the helm and  react quickly .  I love Otto, but he doesn't handle that situation very well.

Kent

SM243

Kristy


On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...> wrote:

 

I read the article and noted that they boat had been spun around twice.  In 2006, sailing 30 miles off of Cape Canaveral, and doing about 11 kts, between the Gulfstream current and ideal winds, we were hit be a downdraft, and spun twice.  Perhaps the same thing happened to the sailboat that was off the coast of VA.

Stephanie DiBelardino


On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:46 AM, <ericmeury@...> wrote:

 

Came across this today.  http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/portsmouth-man-rescued-from-sailboat/-/9857858/23953280/-/oh4y4dz/-/index.html

The couple is from indiana (i don't know them but asking around)  Any body have any knowledge of what happened besides poor planning (and poor boat choice) -  GLAD THEY ARE ARE OKAY!!

ERIC j.


Re: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

Ric Gottschalk <ric@...>
 

Further investigation reveals 4 crew including Hank Schmidt of OPO and that the boat was Hull #1 of an Alpha 42 with serious flaws in the rudder connection. The article from Sailfeed defines the problem and has photos. Doane from Sail magazine and Schmidt from OPO are pro skippers.

Ric

SN24

Bali Hai

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Ric Gottschalk
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 10:01 AM
To: 'amelyachtowners@...'
Subject: RE: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

 

 

Wonder if I could get the lat/long on the boat? Perfect salvage. Motors ok, mast up with furled sails, boat floating on its lines and the 3 idiots off the boat.

Ric

SN24 Bali Hai

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Stephanie DiBelardino
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 8:58 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

 

 

In our case, the boat (a 43' Nauticat) was on autopilot, and we were in the cockpit.  By the time we had turned 180, the autopilot was on standby and my husband was at the wheel, but to no avail.  

Stephanie DiBelardino


On Jan 17, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

 

In big seas and close to the wind it's easy to get headed and find yourself doing a 360 if you aren't sitting at the helm and  react quickly .  I love Otto, but he doesn't handle that situation very well.

Kent

SM243

Kristy


On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Stephanie DiBelardino <stephiedib@...> wrote:

 

I read the article and noted that they boat had been spun around twice.  In 2006, sailing 30 miles off of Cape Canaveral, and doing about 11 kts, between the Gulfstream current and ideal winds, we were hit be a downdraft, and spun twice.  Perhaps the same thing happened to the sailboat that was off the coast of VA.

Stephanie DiBelardino


On Jan 17, 2014, at 12:46 AM, <ericmeury@...> wrote:

 

Came across this today.  http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/portsmouth-man-rescued-from-sailboat/-/9857858/23953280/-/oh4y4dz/-/index.html

The couple is from indiana (i don't know them but asking around)  Any body have any knowledge of what happened besides poor planning (and poor boat choice) -  GLAD THEY ARE ARE OKAY!!

ERIC j.


Re: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
 

HULL #1 from a new factory---NEVER!

Two very experienced crew –An editor from sail magazine and Hank Schmitt owner of Offshore Passage Opportunities.

 

He seems to be having a run of bad luck . 2 years ago he had a crewmember in his rally washed overboard and not recovered (wife) . The husband abandoned a nice pacific seacraft . it was recovered off of Bermuda about 6 month later- the boat was named triple stars—I happened to have spoken with them on the VHF before the incident.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

 

 


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Patrick Mcaneny
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 7:44 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

 

 

Looks like a good salvage opportunity for someone. Looks like its riding high and in no danger of sinking, unless there is a breach in a hull. I wonder why they said they could not steer it, could it be they had no steerage do to low to no STW . If they kept jibing maybe they should have dropped the main and flew a bit of jib. Can't help but second guess, but then again, I was not there. Pat
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Fri, Jan 17, 2014 12:46 am
Subject: [Amel] news story - trouble heading south

 

Came across this today.  http://www.wmur.com/news/nh-news/portsmouth-man-rescued-from-sailboat/-/9857858/23953280/-/oh4y4dz/-/index.html

The couple is from indiana (i don't know them but asking around)  Any body have any knowledge of what happened besides poor planning (and poor boat choice) -  GLAD THEY ARE ARE OKAY!!

ERIC j.


World Cruising Handbook and World Cruising Routes by Jimmmy Cornell

yahoogroups@...
 

I have the following on eBay and the auction is ending in 6 hours. The high bid is $35 including shipping for the pair...heck of a deal if you want these.


Item: World Cruising Handbook and World Cruising Routes by Jimmmy Cornell

URL: http://pages.ebay.com/link/? nav=item.view&id=141162365422


Bill

BeBe


Re: [Amel] Cleaning Bronze Input Pipe of Holding Tank

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Derick,

I do not know whether there is a U at the top of the fill pipe, but suspect there is not because it would not be of any use. I assumed the fill pipe goes to near the top of the tank. 

The clog in mine was near the bottom, but if I was doing it again, I would make the rigging wire long enough to go to the entire length. BTW, I replaced all of the hoses and the hose size reduction adapter when I did this...and even though I only had one head clogged, I did both. Use this for a reference: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/amelyachtowners/photos/albums/1980087538

Hope this helps.

Bill
BeBe, #387


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 8:54 AM, <derickgates@...> wrote:
 

Bill Rouse has posted a nice diagram of the typical SM holding tank in the photos section, as well as a great explanation of how to clean out the head discharge hose and bronze input pipe to the holding tank.  I am in the middle of this lovely task on the aft head and have a question:  "Is the bronze input pipe straight for its entire length, or is it curved at the top to create an anti-siphon 'U'?"  I have reemed the bronze pipe out as far as I can reach and it seems to "top out' at the top of the holding tank or the top of the pipe (not sure which), but I am still experiencing what seems like a clog.  The Jabsco pump seems to be giving good pumping action through the rest of the cleaned-out 25mm and 38mm hoses.

 

I have been using an electric drill and wire brush snake up to this point, but it does not go around corners well (too stiff).  I plan to next try Bill's rigging wire snake idea as soon as I can construct one.

 

Anyone know if the pipe is curved at the top and in which direction (e.g. aft?).

 

Also, I do not see the bonding wire for the bronze pipe - although there is a stainless steel clamp to attach one.  Where should the bonding wire normally come from to attach to this clamp?  Is the same wire used to bond the discharge valve/pipe?

 

Thanks for your thoughts.

 

Derick

SM2K #400

Brava

Currently in Sapphire Beach Marina

St. Thomas, USVI