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Re: Watertight, my foot!

seafeverofcuan@...
 

Greg,

       If you own a Super Maramu? that can't happen without the water coming out of the bow thruster housing and first soaking the bedding leaving a trail and you would have a serious inflow if the problem was with bow thruster seals failing.

Another potential source is if the drain valve for your chain locker is closed but most unlikely.

The most likely source of flooding the bilge locker on a SM is the dish washer outflow pipe coming out of the waste pipe then you will get a couple of inches in all the bilge lockers.

Post your boat Model and some of the real experts on this site will give you the answer straight away.

Amels are designed to deflect approximately ten degrees with the front or rear cabins flooded and the sea tight doors properly secured and fastened.

Regards,

Trevor

SM 425

Ireland




---In amelyachtowners@..., <gegcarter@...> wrote:

Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster?
Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage.
Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?


Re: [Amel] mattress quality

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

For general information, on my last boat, we had cushion covers made from microfiber cloth.  Cotton of course.

Easy to wash, dry instantly.

Just an idea.

Jean-Pierre


On 25 Oct 2013, at 17:01, yachtakwaaba@... wrote:
 

 Hi

In Australia we went to an upholstery supplier and made our matresses out of 3 layers of foam. with closed cell foam as the base,and memory foam as the top layer.

We also removed the Amel cotton base of the cushions and replaced with nylon open mesh fabric, thus allowing the mattress to breath, 

We were advised to sit on washable bathtowels towels in the saloon in the tropics to reduce damage from sweat and suncream.

hope this helps

Cris and Mike S/v Akwaaba santorin sloop



---In amelyachtowners@..., <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

does anybody know what kind of foam (material, quality, strength) amel used for the mattress in the sm or santorin? we could not find such a soft foam material in the shop.

thanks, herbert
santorin 120, kali mera


Jean-Pierre Germain,
Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...
jgermain@...



Re: mattress quality

yachtakwaaba@...
 

 Hi

In Australia we went to an upholstery supplier and made our matresses out of 3 layers of foam. with closed cell foam as the base,and memory foam as the top layer.

We also removed the Amel cotton base of the cushions and replaced with nylon open mesh fabric, thus allowing the mattress to breath, 

We were advised to sit on washable bathtowels towels in the saloon in the tropics to reduce damage from sweat and suncream.

hope this helps

Cris and Mike S/v Akwaaba santorin sloop



---In amelyachtowners@..., <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

does anybody know what kind of foam (material, quality, strength) amel used for the mattress in the sm or santorin? we could not find such a soft foam material in the shop.

thanks, herbert
santorin 120, kali mera


Re: [Amel] Watertight, my foot!

Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
 

Geg,
 
Close the valves Under the floorboard  specially  installed by the yard for this purpose, if a previous owner has not maintained same or if you have not... then replace them.
 
BTW, I have found a inexpensive way to replace the foams on the bow thruster, i use toilet bowl foam seals that can be purchased from many sanitary plumbing stores... works fine for me, althought you may have to seek the help of the store  (who can order a special size) or of a plumber to find the right size (mainly thickness) and deal with the issue that some foam seals have a contact glue on both sides.
 
Serge, V Opera, Mango 51


Le vendredi 25 octobre 2013 8h16, Richard03801 a écrit :

 
Hi after having a number of Amel yachts of various models it would appear that in some manner or means then hose leading to the bilge has been compromised or some has modified the headed. Second you may need to check the seals on the bow thruster. It is assumed you run the boat with the pin in. 
Smooth sailing  
Regards 
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:14, <gegcarter@...> wrote:

 
Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster?
Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage.
Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?



Re: [Amel] Watertight, my foot!

karkauai
 

Look in the files section for excellent instructions on servicing the bow thruster.  
When the seals are properly installed, the bow thruster should be water tight.   It's important to pin the thruster in the up position and that the seals are tightly compressed.  You can tighten the cable some by the connector at the end by the motor.
There is also a way to adjust the stop height (where the raise/lower motor stops automatically) at the worm drive itself.
Many of us have installed an alarm in the bilge in front of the forward head (on SMs). 
I think most of us change the seals and service the thruster every time we haul out.  I would also service the CDrive lower unit at every haul out.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA


On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

 

Hi after having a number of Amel yachts of various models it would appear that in some manner or means then hose leading to the bilge has been compromised or some has modified the headed. Second you may need to check the seals on the bow thruster. It is assumed you run the boat with the pin in. 
Smooth sailing  
Regards 
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:14, <gegcarter@...> wrote:

 

Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster?

Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage.
Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?


Re: [Amel] Watertight, my foot!

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

By the way what model Amel do you have. 

Regards 
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:14, <gegcarter@...> wrote:

 

Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster?

Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage.
Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?


Re: [Amel] Watertight, my foot!

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi after having a number of Amel yachts of various models it would appear that in some manner or means then hose leading to the bilge has been compromised or some has modified the headed. Second you may need to check the seals on the bow thruster. It is assumed you run the boat with the pin in. 
Smooth sailing  
Regards 
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:14, <gegcarter@...> wrote:

 

Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster?

Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage.
Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?


Re: madeira

Herbert Lackner
 

Hi Attilio and Maria,


do you have some more photos from your davits? Do you have construction plans? Are you satisfied with the solution?  We are thinking of equipping our santorin with davits, too.


thanks,


herbert


santorin #120, kali mera



---In amelyachtowners@..., <attilio.siviero@...> wrote:

Hi all,

finally here is (in Photos section, Album Sisila) what we didi to extend the passerella, due to increased dimensions of dinghies nowadays. I did not want to add steps to the original passerella, for the considerable amount of welding work to  be done, and also because we use the passerella as bath ladder, and it is heavy enough. So when we go back to the mooring, and we have the dinghy, we stay far enough from the pontoon and we put the dinghy on water, releasing the right boomerang davit, we install the passerella as usual, linked to the spectra rope coming from the  mizzen mast, and also linked to the right davit: this way the passerella is far more stable. Also, since sometimes the passerella has a gap from the pontoon, and it could be a problem for somebody, when this is the case we install a simple aluminum plate extension, hinged to the end of the passerella, with minimal modification to the passerella, a couple of metal eyes. If we can easily jump across the gap, we leave the extension in the lazarette. In case of bad weather and waves, to avoid night noises, we can lift the extension with a strop linked to the same davit.

This is a suggestion if somebody has the same problem we had with the passerella and boomerang davits.

Fair winds

Attilio&Maria Santorin #84 "Sisila"



---In amelyachtowners@..., <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello Attilio and Maria,
Yes I could send a pic after my next trip to Sicily but there is not much
point as it would look just like the original and you would have to count
the steps to know. However please let me know if you think it would help.

best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319

-----Original Message-----
From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:16 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank

Hi John,
since we have all the winter time now in the Med to extend the passerelle, I
think that soon or later you will be in Sicily again, thus that time please
could you take a shot and post it?
Thanks a lot

Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 16:01, Io <cptbiffi@...> ha scritto:

> Thanks very much for info stefano
>
> Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 15:32, "Anne and John Hollamby"
> <annejohnholl@...> ha scritto:
>
> > Hello Stefano, Sorry, no I have not posted any pics and now cannot do so
> > as we are in Malta and the boat is in Marina di Ragusa, Sicily.
> > However there is nothing complicated about it. I just took the
> > passerelle to a workshop dealing in aluminium welding and told them what
> > I wanted, i.e. a two step extension put into the centre maintaining the
> > curved profile. I think that they may have inserted some short aluminium
> > rods or pipes inside the tubes to add strength The original steps were
> > put into the new centre steps and I made new ones to go at the top of
> > the ladder so that they do not go in the water when in use.
> > I hope this helps.
> > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319
> >
> > From: stefano biffi
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: amelyachtowners@...
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > hi john did you post any picture of your smart/longer passerelle? I
> > tried to find in the web,no bingo done. thanks
> > stefano
> >
> > N'EVEREST
> > SM185 in Bocca di Magra
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Da: Anne and John Hollamby <mailto:annejohnholl%40gmail.com>
> > A: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Inviato: Domenica 16 Settembre 2012 12:19
> > Oggetto: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > Thanks for your message. One thing I forgot to mention was that we made
> > a
> > new board to fit the longer passarelle. It is marine ply and to make it
> > long
> > enough we added another piece attached with brass hinges on the
> > underside
> > and fixed with countersunk machine screws and and nuts. Thus it folds
> > back
> > and opens up when fitted in place so it is slotted in at both ends. It
> > is
> > made non slip with two strips of white non slip adhesive tape running
> > the
> > full length We have an elastic line to hook over the board as the first
> > one
> > we made blew away one night never to be seen again.
> >
> > Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:06 PM
> > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: Buttignol ssa
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer gangplank
> >
> > Hello, Anne and John, extremely grateful for the help and the very
> > accurate
> > explanation.
> >
> > The matter to extend the passerella (gangplank) was already in my mind.
> > Also
> > the matter to use dyneema and a spacer, that I already got.
> >
> > Also useful the suggestion to use the red line to hoist dinghy+motor,
> > but
> > normally we hoist the motor by a separate small davit on stern starboard
> > side. We have a 2.7m Honda dinghy and a 5hp 4-strokes Honda motor, some
> > 30kg
> > weight.
> >
> > Thanks a lot again, fair winds
> >
> > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> >
> > Il giorno 15/set/2012, alle ore 15:06, Anne and John Hollamby
> > <mailto:annejohnholl%40gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > > The gangplank is not really long enough for mooring stern-to possibly
> > > because it was not updated when the tube size on inflatables was
> > > increased
> > > in the late eighties/nineties. The owner of SM Galaxie increased the
> > > length
> > > by two steps and I copied him. It is supported by what we call the red
> > > line
> > > which is the one attached to the mizzen mast at the spreader on a
> > > block.
> > > The
> > > red line is dyneema and 8mm which is more than strong enough. The red
> > > line
> > > is attached to a spacer so that there are two lines going down to the
> > > end
> > > of
> > > the gangplank via a piece of wood to open the gap between them. These
> > > attach
> > > to the gangplank on U-bolts a piece of teak which is wider than the
> > > plank
> > > and secured with saddle clips.
> > > Our dinghy is a Honwav 30 and weighs 45 kg and this is secured to our
> > > davits
> > > on 4 part blocks with a jam cleat welded on to the davit. The davit
> > > itself
> > > is supported on 6 part tackles on blocks with jam cleats on the deck.
> > > It
> > > is
> > > hard to hoist the dinghy on these but it becomes impossible if we want
> > > to
> > > hoist it with a 15 HP 2 stroke motor in place. However it is lifted
> > > with
> > > great ease by by using the two red lines from the gangplank and
> > > shackling
> > > them on to the ends of the davits which are then lowered right down to
> > > the
> > > the blocks on the tackle and then lifting everything on the red line
> > > either
> > > by winding it up by hand on the mizzen outhaul winch or, as I am in my
> > > eighties, on the main sheet winch.
> > > We also use the mainsheet winch to hoist the dinghy on the red line so
> > > that
> > > we can clean the dinghy or let it down on the aft cabin top for longer
> > > passages or over wintering. We hope this helps!
> > >
> > > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali
> > > Hai, SM2K 319
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:47 AM
> > > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits
> > >
> > > Thanks Richard, not useful but encouraging ;-)
> > >
> > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila" in Monfalcone IT
> > >
> > > Il giorno 11/set/2012, alle ore 20:34, Richard03801
> > > <mailto:richard03801%40yahoo.com>
> > > ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > We have those on our SM with 4:1 blocks thay work very well
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Richard Piller
> > > >
> > > > Cell 603 767 5330
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:47, Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > > <mailto:attilio.siviero%40yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am just thinking to fit on my Santorin a couple of davits
> > > > > similar to
> > > > > the ones made by a workshop in La Rochelle, and called Boomerang.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have seen several SMs with those davits, and I know that also
> > > > > some
> > > > > Santorins has been fitted with same davits, obviously adapted to
> > > > > the
> > > > > different size of the stern.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I would like to know for a 2.7m tender (Honda) which tackles
> > > > > (with
> > > > > triple blocks: we are getting old...) are normally used for these
> > > > > davits? I think that a tackle with blocks of 45mm dia, and 10mm
> > > > > rope
> > > > > (working load of the blocks 450kg) should be sufficient.
> > > > > Naturally,
> > > > > one
> > > > > triple block should be with cam-cleat.
> > > > >
> > > > > And how long is the tackle completely closed. This is to position
> > > > > correctly the holding shackle.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anybody with a SM or a Santorin has these davits, maybe he can
> > > > > give
> > > > > me this info/opinion?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for an answer
> > > > >
> > > > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> > >
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Re: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

kanalmamman@...
 

 Hi,

What we have done is to attach a shore water hose connection under the seat in the cockpit. That connects through a three direction valve to the output hose from the waterpump. Using shore water change then valve to link to the shore water and back using water tank water. 

We have put two filters before the water gets into our system, one 15-20 micron normal water filter and one carbon filter. We have put valves before and after the filters to keep them full of water when not used.


/Jonas

SM Lady Annila #232



---In amelyachtowners@..., <richard03801@...> wrote:

Hey be very sure to use a one way valve before the tee. 

Regards 
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 23, 2013, at 17:08, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Richard,

I was going to have it go into the shower bottom, but yes, adding a Tee on the hose going to the bilge is a much better idea!
Thanks again, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 10/23/13, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] High water alarm?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2013, 2:48 PM
















 









Hi most likely pick for 24 V is the power
panel above the door to the forward cabin. You can run the
wire through the drain hole in the forward hanging closet.
And run the hose from the bilge pump into the shower exit
hose with the tee. 

Regards Richard
Piller
Cell 603 767
5330
On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:55, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
wrote:
















 








Following my bow thruster leak, like many of you have done,
I want to add a high water alarm in the compartment near for
forward head as well as the bilge (in the engine
compartment). I will also add an automatic bilge pump in
that forward compartment.



Where should I get the power from? (for both location)

Any things I should avoid, be carefull with?



I guess I will pick 24 Volt.



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Seabrook, Texas, USA








































Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank

attilio.siviero@...
 

Hi all,

finally here is (in Photos section, Album Sisila) what we didi to extend the passerella, due to increased dimensions of dinghies nowadays. I did not want to add steps to the original passerella, for the considerable amount of welding work to  be done, and also because we use the passerella as bath ladder, and it is heavy enough. So when we go back to the mooring, and we have the dinghy, we stay far enough from the pontoon and we put the dinghy on water, releasing the right boomerang davit, we install the passerella as usual, linked to the spectra rope coming from the  mizzen mast, and also linked to the right davit: this way the passerella is far more stable. Also, since sometimes the passerella has a gap from the pontoon, and it could be a problem for somebody, when this is the case we install a simple aluminum plate extension, hinged to the end of the passerella, with minimal modification to the passerella, a couple of metal eyes. If we can easily jump across the gap, we leave the extension in the lazarette. In case of bad weather and waves, to avoid night noises, we can lift the extension with a strop linked to the same davit.

This is a suggestion if somebody has the same problem we had with the passerella and boomerang davits.

Fair winds

Attilio&Maria Santorin #84 "Sisila"



---In amelyachtowners@..., <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hello Attilio and Maria,
Yes I could send a pic after my next trip to Sicily but there is not much
point as it would look just like the original and you would have to count
the steps to know. However please let me know if you think it would help.

best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319

-----Original Message-----
From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:16 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank

Hi John,
since we have all the winter time now in the Med to extend the passerelle, I
think that soon or later you will be in Sicily again, thus that time please
could you take a shot and post it?
Thanks a lot

Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"


Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 16:01, Io <cptbiffi@...> ha scritto:

> Thanks very much for info stefano
>
> Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 15:32, "Anne and John Hollamby"
> <annejohnholl@...> ha scritto:
>
> > Hello Stefano, Sorry, no I have not posted any pics and now cannot do so
> > as we are in Malta and the boat is in Marina di Ragusa, Sicily.
> > However there is nothing complicated about it. I just took the
> > passerelle to a workshop dealing in aluminium welding and told them what
> > I wanted, i.e. a two step extension put into the centre maintaining the
> > curved profile. I think that they may have inserted some short aluminium
> > rods or pipes inside the tubes to add strength The original steps were
> > put into the new centre steps and I made new ones to go at the top of
> > the ladder so that they do not go in the water when in use.
> > I hope this helps.
> > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319
> >
> > From: stefano biffi
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: amelyachtowners@...
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > hi john did you post any picture of your smart/longer passerelle? I
> > tried to find in the web,no bingo done. thanks
> > stefano
> >
> > N'EVEREST
> > SM185 in Bocca di Magra
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Da: Anne and John Hollamby <mailto:annejohnholl%40gmail.com>
> > A: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Inviato: Domenica 16 Settembre 2012 12:19
> > Oggetto: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > Thanks for your message. One thing I forgot to mention was that we made
> > a
> > new board to fit the longer passarelle. It is marine ply and to make it
> > long
> > enough we added another piece attached with brass hinges on the
> > underside
> > and fixed with countersunk machine screws and and nuts. Thus it folds
> > back
> > and opens up when fitted in place so it is slotted in at both ends. It
> > is
> > made non slip with two strips of white non slip adhesive tape running
> > the
> > full length We have an elastic line to hook over the board as the first
> > one
> > we made blew away one night never to be seen again.
> >
> > Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:06 PM
> > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: Buttignol ssa
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer gangplank
> >
> > Hello, Anne and John, extremely grateful for the help and the very
> > accurate
> > explanation.
> >
> > The matter to extend the passerella (gangplank) was already in my mind.
> > Also
> > the matter to use dyneema and a spacer, that I already got.
> >
> > Also useful the suggestion to use the red line to hoist dinghy+motor,
> > but
> > normally we hoist the motor by a separate small davit on stern starboard
> > side. We have a 2.7m Honda dinghy and a 5hp 4-strokes Honda motor, some
> > 30kg
> > weight.
> >
> > Thanks a lot again, fair winds
> >
> > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> >
> > Il giorno 15/set/2012, alle ore 15:06, Anne and John Hollamby
> > <mailto:annejohnholl%40gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > > The gangplank is not really long enough for mooring stern-to possibly
> > > because it was not updated when the tube size on inflatables was
> > > increased
> > > in the late eighties/nineties. The owner of SM Galaxie increased the
> > > length
> > > by two steps and I copied him. It is supported by what we call the red
> > > line
> > > which is the one attached to the mizzen mast at the spreader on a
> > > block.
> > > The
> > > red line is dyneema and 8mm which is more than strong enough. The red
> > > line
> > > is attached to a spacer so that there are two lines going down to the
> > > end
> > > of
> > > the gangplank via a piece of wood to open the gap between them. These
> > > attach
> > > to the gangplank on U-bolts a piece of teak which is wider than the
> > > plank
> > > and secured with saddle clips.
> > > Our dinghy is a Honwav 30 and weighs 45 kg and this is secured to our
> > > davits
> > > on 4 part blocks with a jam cleat welded on to the davit. The davit
> > > itself
> > > is supported on 6 part tackles on blocks with jam cleats on the deck.
> > > It
> > > is
> > > hard to hoist the dinghy on these but it becomes impossible if we want
> > > to
> > > hoist it with a 15 HP 2 stroke motor in place. However it is lifted
> > > with
> > > great ease by by using the two red lines from the gangplank and
> > > shackling
> > > them on to the ends of the davits which are then lowered right down to
> > > the
> > > the blocks on the tackle and then lifting everything on the red line
> > > either
> > > by winding it up by hand on the mizzen outhaul winch or, as I am in my
> > > eighties, on the main sheet winch.
> > > We also use the mainsheet winch to hoist the dinghy on the red line so
> > > that
> > > we can clean the dinghy or let it down on the aft cabin top for longer
> > > passages or over wintering. We hope this helps!
> > >
> > > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali
> > > Hai, SM2K 319
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:47 AM
> > > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits
> > >
> > > Thanks Richard, not useful but encouraging ;-)
> > >
> > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila" in Monfalcone IT
> > >
> > > Il giorno 11/set/2012, alle ore 20:34, Richard03801
> > > <mailto:richard03801%40yahoo.com>
> > > ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > We have those on our SM with 4:1 blocks thay work very well
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Richard Piller
> > > >
> > > > Cell 603 767 5330
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:47, Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > > <mailto:attilio.siviero%40yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am just thinking to fit on my Santorin a couple of davits
> > > > > similar to
> > > > > the ones made by a workshop in La Rochelle, and called Boomerang.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have seen several SMs with those davits, and I know that also
> > > > > some
> > > > > Santorins has been fitted with same davits, obviously adapted to
> > > > > the
> > > > > different size of the stern.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I would like to know for a 2.7m tender (Honda) which tackles
> > > > > (with
> > > > > triple blocks: we are getting old...) are normally used for these
> > > > > davits? I think that a tackle with blocks of 45mm dia, and 10mm
> > > > > rope
> > > > > (working load of the blocks 450kg) should be sufficient.
> > > > > Naturally,
> > > > > one
> > > > > triple block should be with cam-cleat.
> > > > >
> > > > > And how long is the tackle completely closed. This is to position
> > > > > correctly the holding shackle.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anybody with a SM or a Santorin has these davits, maybe he can
> > > > > give
> > > > > me this info/opinion?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for an answer
> > > > >
> > > > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> > > > >
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> > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
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Re: [Amel] Watertight, my foot!

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Yes,your mail is missing a subject matter so that it can be found again by anyone searching for leaks from bowthruster. It is also missing a proper signature at the end giving your name, boat name model and number plus if you hope for a local’s response your location.
 
                                            Regards,   Anne and John,  Bali Hai, SM2K 319,  Malta
 

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:14 AM
Subject: [Amel] Watertight, my foot!
 
 

Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster?

Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage.
Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?


Watertight, my foot!

gegcarter@...
 

Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster?

Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage.
Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?


mattress quality

Herbert Lackner
 

does anybody know what kind of foam (material, quality, strength) amel used for the mattress in the sm or santorin? we could not find such a soft foam material in the shop.

thanks, herbert
santorin 120, kali mera


Re: [Amel] High water alarm?

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hey be very sure to use a one way valve before the tee. 

Regards 
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 23, 2013, at 17:08, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Richard,

I was going to have it go into the shower bottom, but yes, adding a Tee on the hose going to the bilge is a much better idea!
Thanks again, Alexandre

--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 10/23/13, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] High water alarm?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2013, 2:48 PM
















 









Hi most likely pick for 24 V is the power
panel above the door to the forward cabin. You can run the
wire through the drain hole in the forward hanging closet.
And run the hose from the bilge pump into the shower exit
hose with the tee. 

Regards Richard
Piller
Cell 603 767
5330
On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:55, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
wrote:
















 








Following my bow thruster leak, like many of you have done,
I want to add a high water alarm in the compartment near for
forward head as well as the bilge (in the engine
compartment). I will also add an automatic bilge pump in
that forward compartment.



Where should I get the power from? (for both location)

Any things I should avoid, be carefull with?



I guess I will pick 24 Volt.



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Seabrook, Texas, USA








































Re: [Amel] High water alarm?

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Thanks Richard,

I was going to have it go into the shower bottom, but yes, adding a Tee on the hose going to the bilge is a much better idea!
Thanks again, Alexandre


--------------------------------------------

On Wed, 10/23/13, Richard03801 <richard03801@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel] High water alarm?
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Wednesday, October 23, 2013, 2:48 PM
















 









Hi most likely pick for 24 V is the power
panel above the door to the forward cabin. You can run the
wire through the drain hole in the forward hanging closet.
And run the hose from the bilge pump into the shower exit
hose with the tee. 

Regards Richard
Piller
Cell 603 767
5330
On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:55, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...>
wrote:
















 








Following my bow thruster leak, like many of you have done,
I want to add a high water alarm in the compartment near for
forward head as well as the bilge (in the engine
compartment). I will also add an automatic bilge pump in
that forward compartment.



Where should I get the power from? (for both location)

Any things I should avoid, be carefull with?



I guess I will pick 24 Volt.



Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre



SM2K #289 NIKIMAT

Seabrook, Texas, USA


Re: [Amel] High water alarm?

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi most likely pick for 24 V is the power panel above the door to the forward cabin. You can run the wire through the drain hole in the forward hanging closet. And run the hose from the bilge pump into the shower exit hose with the tee. 

Regards 
Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Oct 23, 2013, at 12:55, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

 


Following my bow thruster leak, like many of you have done, I want to add a high water alarm in the compartment near for forward head as well as the bilge (in the engine compartment). I will also add an automatic bilge pump in that forward compartment.

Where should I get the power from? (for both location)
Any things I should avoid, be carefull with?

I guess I will pick 24 Volt.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook, Texas, USA


Re: [Amel] High water alarm?

karkauai
 

I bought a battery powered one that has an irritating beep when the batteries are getting low.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy



From: Alexandre Uster von Baar
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:55 PM
Subject: [Amel] High water alarm?

 

Following my bow thruster leak, like many of you have done, I want to add a high water alarm in the compartment near for forward head as well as the bilge (in the engine compartment). I will also add an automatic bilge pump in that forward compartment.

Where should I get the power from? (for both location)
Any things I should avoid, be carefull with?

I guess I will pick 24 Volt.

Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre

SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Seabrook, Texas, USA




Re: [Amel] Dockage/storage in Puerto Rico

karkauai
 

I was in Fajardo at SunBay for several months a couple years ago while I was repowering.  The marina management got me in touch with the appropriate officials and our stay was extended over the phone at no charge.

If you have any mechanical issues, look up Danny Ramos at Marine Mechanical in Fajardo...he's THE Volvo guy in the Caribbean.  That said, he didn't want to sell me a Volvo given the easier access to parts and service throughout the world with Yanmar.  If you need more help, George and Kim Cerillo are exAmel owners who live in PR now...I'm sure they would be happy to advise you.
Kent
SM243
Kristy
Brunswick GA USA



From: curtepp To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:40 PM
Subject: [Amel] Dockage/storage in Puerto Rico

 
We are new Amel owners,living in Washington State, USA. Our 1987 Maramu "Languedoc" is currently at Nanny Cay, Tortola. In Nov/Dec. we will be in the Virgin Island and then move our Amel to SunBay Marina, Fajardo, PR. We are planning a 2 month Caribbean cruise in the spring. We have read that PR requires registration for boats staying there over 90 days but that the law is not enforced. Does anyone have any knowledge of this? Anyone with experience staying in Fajardo? We are considering summer 2014 storage at Puerto Del Rey but we have little first hand info about that service? Has anyone stored at Puerto Del Rey during hurricane season? We are experienced cruisers but totally new to the Caribbean. Any suggestions?




Re: [Amel] Re: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

karkauai
 

That's great to know, Miles.  Thanks.
Kent



From: Miles Bidwell
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:19 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Cleaning the fresh water tanks

 
Hi Kent,
 
To be certain about chlorine,  I buy a small bottle of chlorine water testing strips at a tropical fish store (the stuff kills fish as well as membranes).  The strip shows just how much, if any, chlorine is in the water.   I have found that the good house filters remove all detectable chlorine and just about everything else.
 
Regards,
 
Miles
 
Ladybug (sm 216)  Newport, RI



Re: [Amel] Dockage/storage in Puerto Rico

ldesalvo@...
 

We are also Amel SM owners living in Washington State. Everett area.
We have been sailing in Mexico for the last four years. We leave the
Seattle area next week to return to the boat. If you have any
interest in getting together before we leave let us know. Our phone
number is 206 650-3901

Jim and Linda
S/v Liebling
SM #207

---- Original Message ----
From: sail2live@...
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Dockage/storage in Puerto Rico
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:40:32 -0000

We are new Amel owners,living in Washington State, USA. Our 1987
Maramu "Languedoc" is currently at Nanny Cay, Tortola. In Nov/Dec.
we will be in the Virgin Island and then move our Amel to SunBay
Marina, Fajardo, PR. We are planning a 2 month Caribbean cruise in
the spring. We have read that PR requires registration for boats
staying there over 90 days but that the law is not enforced. Does
anyone have any knowledge of this? Anyone with experience staying in
Fajardo? We are considering summer 2014 storage at Puerto Del Rey
but we have little first hand info about that service? Has anyone
stored at Puerto Del Rey during hurricane season? We are experienced
cruisers but totally new to the Caribbean. Any suggestions?