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Port light / window eplacement on Amel Sharki

Gene <geneccarter@...>
 

Good day all,

Has any one attempted to replace the fixed port lights / windows on the Amell Sharki

What issues did you have what type of sealant or gasket did you use.

Thanks in advance for any information.


Re: [Amel] Re: Toilet Waste Water Tank Valves Maintenance

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

There was a posting a month or two ago by Ian Shepherd with Crusader saying that he poured hydrochloric/muriatic acid on these valves when it was just possible to move them and then worked them open thus cleaning off the lime scale and making them free and they then worked well. I have a piece of box section steel to fit over the handles for extra leverage.

Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319, Malta Original Message-----
From: Colin Streeter
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 5:20 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Toilet Waste Water Tank Valves Maintenance

Hi Rink
Thank you for this feedback. I will press on to try to loosen them with
force and then oil before deciding to replace them. Interesting that a few
boats built in 2001 seem to have had this problem, perhaps a bad batch of
valves supplied at that time.
Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, sm2k #332, 2001
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Rink de Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:

**


We had the same some years ago. I left the boat for a couple of
months without any water in the waste water tanks. I guess that'll
erode the ball in the valve.
I also had to use some force, but after a while and some oil they
worked smooth again.
Now, when I leave the boat I fill the tanks with sweet water. No
problems ever since.

Rink
Razor's Edge
SM2K #330
Kusadasi Turkey






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Re: [Amel] Re: Toilet Waste Water Tank Valves Maintenance

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Hi Rink
Thank you for this feedback. I will press on to try to loosen them with
force and then oil before deciding to replace them. Interesting that a few
boats built in 2001 seem to have had this problem, perhaps a bad batch of
valves supplied at that time.
Colin Streeter
Island Pearl II, sm2k #332, 2001
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:29 AM, Rink de Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:

**


We had the same some years ago. I left the boat for a couple of
months without any water in the waste water tanks. I guess that'll
erode the ball in the valve.
I also had to use some force, but after a while and some oil they
worked smooth again.
Now, when I leave the boat I fill the tanks with sweet water. No
problems ever since.

Rink
Razor's Edge
SM2K #330
Kusadasi Turkey


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Re: Toilet Waste Water Tank Valves Maintenance

Rink De Haan
 

We had the same some years ago. I left the boat for a couple of
months without any water in the waste water tanks. I guess that'll
erode the ball in the valve.
I also had to use some force, but after a while and some oil they
worked smooth again.
Now, when I leave the boat I fill the tanks with sweet water. No
problems ever since.

Rink
Razor's Edge
SM2K #330
Kusadasi Turkey


Re: Maramu stowage plan(s)

sbmesasailor
 

Because of the centerline position of the storage area aft of the forward bulkhead, we designated it for all my heavy tool and fishing boxes -it's a bit difficult hauling them out from the bottom of this space but they'd be difficult hauling them out of just about anywhere.  Our freezer is custom-made and sits under the portside settee where it is closer to the galley (wife appreciates that).  How about placing your cans and rice under the floor boards this area has stayed bone dry for us throughout our travels.
 
Dennis Johns
s/v Libertad
Maramu #121
Bundaberg, Australia

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Re: [Amel] Toilet Waste Water Tank Valves Maintenance

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi. If you go non metal go with Marelon they are blend of fiberglass and hi grade plastic.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Jan 8, 2013, at 14:46, Otto Martin <otto@...> wrote:

I had the same problem (during years) on our Sharki (1987). We are only
sailing for 6 to 9 weeks a year.... The problem could only be fixed by
replacing the valve. Now we have one of "plastic" material and during
the last 1 1/2 year there wasn't any problem to open and close the valve.

Otto E. Martin
SY Gioconda
Switzerland

Am 08.01.2013 09:27, schrieb islandpearl2_sm2k332:

Having not used my boat for a few months I noticed that the valves to
dump the toilet waste water tanks to the ocean have become extremely
difficult / near impossible to open/close. This must be from lack of
regular use as the boat has been in a marina since April.

A little while ago I noticed a posting with photos from another member
about replacing the same valves on their Super Maramu so assume it is
a common problem.

Question to the group..? Once I have managed to fix the valves, other
than more regular movement, what advice would you have for oiling or
regular lubrication of these valves or ensuring that these do not
seized again? Is there something I should be flushing down the toilet
periodically to help?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II
2001 SM2K # 332
Brisbane, Australia




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Re: [Amel] Toilet Waste Water Tank Valves Maintenance

Otto Martin <otto@...>
 

I had the same problem (during years) on our Sharki (1987). We are only
sailing for 6 to 9 weeks a year.... The problem could only be fixed by
replacing the valve. Now we have one of "plastic" material and during
the last 1 1/2 year there wasn't any problem to open and close the valve.

Otto E. Martin
SY Gioconda
Switzerland

Am 08.01.2013 09:27, schrieb islandpearl2_sm2k332:


Having not used my boat for a few months I noticed that the valves to
dump the toilet waste water tanks to the ocean have become extremely
difficult / near impossible to open/close. This must be from lack of
regular use as the boat has been in a marina since April.

A little while ago I noticed a posting with photos from another member
about replacing the same valves on their Super Maramu so assume it is
a common problem.

Question to the group..? Once I have managed to fix the valves, other
than more regular movement, what advice would you have for oiling or
regular lubrication of these valves or ensuring that these do not
seized again? Is there something I should be flushing down the toilet
periodically to help?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II
2001 SM2K # 332
Brisbane, Australia


Re: [Amel] Re: SM Carpet

karkauai
 

I took the old carpet in to use as patterns. Google "honey beige marine carpet" and you will find the one I chose. There are several other Berbers and a few solids similar to the original Amel carpeting, all made by Shaw. These are made as "snap in" carpet, as opposed to marine carpet made for gluing down to the decking.
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

On Jan 7, 2013, at 11:16 PM, "islandbwoy4434" <terencesingh@...> wrote:

Happy New Year Kent!
Are you going to cut the carpet yourself or is did you supply the old carpet as a pattern?
Do you have the product details?
Terry

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Kent Robertson wrote:

I have just ordered new carpeting for Kristy. It is meant for marine environment, and has a special backing that is not supposed to deteriorate. It is made by Shaw Carpets. I have not put it in the boat yet, so will report after a year or so on its longevity.
The total cost will be less than $600 US.

Wishing you all a happy new year.
Kent
SV Kristy
SM243
Currently Brunswick Georgia.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 6, 2013, at 11:32 AM, "islandbwoy4434" wrote:

We are looking to replace either the backing our the entire set of carpets in Libby. The foam backing has deteriorated and is crumbling and peeling off the carpet.
Has anyone replaced the backing or the entire carpets?
If so where were the carpets purchased from or how was the foam backing replaced?

Terry&Dena Singh

SV Libby




Re: Maramu stowage plan(s)

jjjk12s <jjjk12s@...>
 

Andy,
If you are talking about the fore-cabin we keep stuff like spare turnbuckles and wire, a mini dismantlable workshop table and vice, storm sails, water toys, surplus lifejackets etc there.

Unless you plan to carry loads of dry food there is so much storage space in the saloon it is most convenient to keep it closer to the galley.

Under the centreline seat at the end of the saloon table is a good place for a second fridge/freezer if you don't have one already. We have a top openning Engel that fits nicely. It has a vent/grill in the woodwork for air circulation and a wire via the junction box for the mast lights and along the conduit that supplies these.

Regards
John

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Andrew Croney wrote:

Thank you all for your valued advice,

I am sure we will be re-arranging things BUT we do intend to have a stowage plan.

One more question : The DEEP storage space under the seating behind forward bulkhead - what have you used this space for ?? We're thinking in terms of Tins and Rice ( yes we're from Asia )

We would be interested to hear what you feel is best to store in this space.

Thanks in advance for your feedback , much appreciated.

fair winds

Andy

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Re: [Amel] Perkins Prima 80 Part numbers

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Graham,
The exhaust mixing elbow on the Volvo on my last boat needed replacing when we were in Queensland, Australia and the cost of getting and flying in a new one from the UK was huge. A local stainless steel company made a new one out of stainless steel using some prefabricated bends ( I think ) for about 60% of the cost of the Volvo spare.

Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319, Malta


: Graham
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 11:18 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Perkins Prima 80 Part numbers


Can any one help with the Perkins part numbers of the exhaust elbow and connector on the Prima 80t. ?

Graham Boyd
SM140 Sula
Hong Kong





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Re: [Amel] Super Maramu mast vibration

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Joel,
I collapsed the support triangle under the furling gear before we had even left La Rochelle twelve years ago. Now for the first time I know why it happened from your advice. I solved it permanently with a U bolt as can be seen in my photo album, see “SM319 Changes to Bali Hai”.

Wishing you a Happy and Prosperous New Year, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319


From: Dave_Benjamin
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 6:46 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Super Maramu mast vibration


Joel (and others),

As a sailmaker, I recommend that halyard tension be slackened on any furling sails when the boat is not in use. Keeping halyards tensioned stretches the luff over time.

Same goes for outhauls on conventional mainsails. I've worked on a lot of boats where someone was sailing in heavy air and left the outhaul bar tight.

--- In mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com, "Joel F Potter" wrote:

This is a peculiarity common primarily to the Super Maramu although I have
experienced it on the Santorin. If the rig is tuned tight and proper, try
completely easing the jib halyard when the boat is not going to be sailed.

You will note a diminution if not the complete elimination of this
resonance which can be quite annoying but doesn't actually hurt anything. I
know, this seems strange.try it.

Be absolutely sure to crank up the halyard tension when returning to sailing
mode as you will bend/collapse the stainless steel support triangle under
the jib furling motor/gearbox assembly if you do not. When re-rigging Super
Maramu's I always encourage the owners to strengthen this component part as
I have seen many bent and in progressive failure. A similar material
doubler on the front side of the support triangle seems to do the trick.

As a matter of curiosity, is the rigging on your SM 53 original?



All the best,

Joel F. Potter





Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: jfpottercys@...





From: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
[mailto:mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of islandbwoy4434
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:22 AM
To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Super Maramu mast vibration





Having owned Libby (SM197) for a year now and about 2000 miles of Pacific
under her keel we have one phenomena that we need guidance on.

While tied up at the dock we consistently notice the main Matt will start to
pulsate with a mild wind. We can hear the furled main sail rattle inside the
mast. We can feel this right throughout the boat. It is not violent motion
but noticeable.

My thoughts are that the upper and lower shrouds may need adjusting.
Has anyone else experienced this?

Is there a specification and procedure for the shroud tension?

Any other thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Terry&Dena Singh
SV Libby





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Re: [Amel] Re: Maramu stowage plan(s)

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Hi we put our tool boxes in that space they are heavy and near the centerline. And its dry.

Regards

Richard Piller

Cell 603 767 5330

On Jan 8, 2013, at 5:50, Andrew Croney <allezaubon@...> wrote:

Thank you all for your valued advice,

I am sure we will be re-arranging things BUT we do intend to have a stowage plan.

One more question : The DEEP storage space under the seating behind forward bulkhead - what have you used this space for ?? We're thinking in terms of Tins and Rice ( yes we're from Asia )

We would be interested to hear what you feel is best to store in this space.

Thanks in advance for your feedback , much appreciated.

fair winds

Andy

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(No subject)

Geoffrey Tyers <geoffrey_tyers@...>
 


Re: Maramu stowage plan(s)

Andy Croney
 

Thank you all for your valued advice,

I am sure we will be re-arranging things BUT we do intend to have a stowage plan.

One more question : The DEEP storage space under the seating behind forward bulkhead - what have you used this space for ?? We're thinking in terms of Tins and Rice ( yes we're from Asia )

We would be interested to hear what you feel is best to store in this space.

Thanks in advance for your feedback , much appreciated.

fair winds

Andy


DESSALATOR 100L/Hr Duo 220/24V - Fresh water flushing procedure advice

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

We had a new 2012 Duo Dessalator 100L/hr watermaker installed in Jan 2012 which has been in excellent working order however now with boat unused for 7 months the filter has gone black. Unfortunately we did not flush in freshwater before letting the boat stand.

I want to flush/clean asap without causing any problems or pushing bacteria into the water tank but neither the DESSALATOR manualhttp://www.dessalator.fr/en/technical-questions/sterilizing-cartridge/ - nor the original Amel manual gives clear step by step guidance. Also I notice a valve to switch from Sea water input to the boat's freshwater already installed. Is there a quick and easy system installed on the Amel to rinse in freshwater? Could someone in the group please give a step by step procedure to recover from this situation?

Thanks in advance

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, 2001 sm2k #332


Toilet Waste Water Tank Valves Maintenance

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

Having not used my boat for a few months I noticed that the valves to dump the toilet waste water tanks to the ocean have become extremely difficult / near impossible to open/close. This must be from lack of regular use as the boat has been in a marina since April.

A little while ago I noticed a posting with photos from another member about replacing the same valves on their Super Maramu so assume it is a common problem.

Question to the group..? Once I have managed to fix the valves, other than more regular movement, what advice would you have for oiling or regular lubrication of these valves or ensuring that these do not seized again? Is there something I should be flushing down the toilet periodically to help?

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II
2001 SM2K # 332
Brisbane, Australia


Sea water intake grid?

Colin - ex SV Island Pearl
 

This past week I had to replace the impellers on both the Yamnar main engine and Onan generator on the same day whilst out sailing. The first thing noticed was a lack of seawater to the toilets when flushing followed by the stalling of the Onan. Within an hour of replacing the Onan impeller we had another seawater intake blockage due to an abundance of jellyfish in the water in this season.

My question to the group ... Do your Amel's have a grate / seawater grid on the hull exterior covering the large seawater intake hole? In my case there is simply the hole with no cover - BUT this lack of grid was actually most handy since I was able to remove the top seawater intake cover & filter inside the engine room, open the seawater cock and quickly push the blockage out with a dowling rod ...and problem solved.

Also, do any of your generators have a temperature gauge installed?

Fair winds

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II
2001 SM2K # 332


Re: KANZAKI KMH4A AND SHAFT ALTERNATORS ON AMELS

Dave_Benjamin
 

Alex,

I think Yanmar may sell an integrated alternator or generator. I remember reading about it some time ago.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Alex" wrote:



--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Alex" wrote:

Can anyone share information wether the KANZAKI KMH4A gear box that is supplied with some Yanmar engines can be used to run a shaft alternator like the Hurth gear boxes in the Amel Maramu?


Alpenglow interior lighting review

Dave_Benjamin
 

We just installed a few Alpenglow lights inside our Maramu. These fixtures are phenomenal and a huge improvement over the old lights. Jean is ecstatic. We'll be ordering a few more. We bought one overhead fixture and one dimmable reading light.
Alpenglow is a husband and wife run company in Montana, USA that has been in business a number of years.

We have no connection with the company other than being customers. They sell direct, so you will not find them in chandleries.

Website is http://www.alpenglowlights.com

Fair Winds,

Dave Benjamin
S/V Exit Strategy
Maramu #29


Re: [Amel] Super Maramu mast vibration

Dave_Benjamin
 

Joel (and others),

As a sailmaker, I recommend that halyard tension be slackened on any furling sails when the boat is not in use. Keeping halyards tensioned stretches the luff over time.

Same goes for outhauls on conventional mainsails. I've worked on a lot of boats where someone was sailing in heavy air and left the outhaul bar tight.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Joel F Potter" wrote:

This is a peculiarity common primarily to the Super Maramu although I have
experienced it on the Santorin. If the rig is tuned tight and proper, try
completely easing the jib halyard when the boat is not going to be sailed.

You will note a diminution if not the complete elimination of this
resonance which can be quite annoying but doesn't actually hurt anything. I
know, this seems strange.try it.

Be absolutely sure to crank up the halyard tension when returning to sailing
mode as you will bend/collapse the stainless steel support triangle under
the jib furling motor/gearbox assembly if you do not. When re-rigging Super
Maramu's I always encourage the owners to strengthen this component part as
I have seen many bent and in progressive failure. A similar material
doubler on the front side of the support triangle seems to do the trick.

As a matter of curiosity, is the rigging on your SM 53 original?



All the best,

Joel F. Potter





Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485

Email: jfpottercys@...





From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of islandbwoy4434
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 11:22 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Super Maramu mast vibration





Having owned Libby (SM197) for a year now and about 2000 miles of Pacific
under her keel we have one phenomena that we need guidance on.

While tied up at the dock we consistently notice the main Matt will start to
pulsate with a mild wind. We can hear the furled main sail rattle inside the
mast. We can feel this right throughout the boat. It is not violent motion
but noticeable.

My thoughts are that the upper and lower shrouds may need adjusting.
Has anyone else experienced this?

Is there a specification and procedure for the shroud tension?

Any other thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Terry&Dena Singh
SV Libby