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Re: [Amel] RE: Watertight, my foot!
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Wow, Alan, I have never, ever, experienced that. Possibly I do not understand your use of the word "waste" from the "forward head drain." I understand that to mean GRAY water from the shower and sink. That water should have already passed through a hose that runs slightly downhill from the forward head drain to the sump. I cannot imagine how this is happening to you, unless that drain hose has been moved from its original position, or your bow is down about 25-30cm. Is the drain hose in the bottom of each saloon locker? You might try pouring 1-2 liter of colored water into the shower drain and have someone watch at the sump to see if it drains and it is colored. Possibly there is an obstruction in the hose.
Please explain further...I am always a little slow on understanding something new. Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM, <divanz620@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ???
Jp <jp_nikan@...>
Hello , my last discussion with Mr Dufour (S.A.V.) in regard of the Amel drive was that the grade 90 oil is now recommended. J-Pierre Massicotte Santorin #51, Vanille Envoyé de mon iPhone Le 2013-11-02 à 01:13, "Joel F Potter" <jfpottercys@...> a écrit :
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Re: Super Maramu ballooner for sale
richtate@...
It's a Super Maramu as mentioned in the title of the post. The FORWARD ballooner. Could be 1989 but as I mentioned has been seldom used. Richard ---In amelyachtowners@..., <yahoogroups@...> wrote: Model Amel? Super Maramu? Year? Fore or Mizzen? Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387
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Re: Watertight, my foot!
Seems to me that it could be the drain in the forward head....When one is on starboard tack, the waste from the fwd head drain can flood the fwd head .. I have a wooden plug to plug the fwd head drain so it doesn't flood the head...BUT, it's a bitch to get out. I'm going to (next trip) change the plumbing a bit and add a valve under the floor out side the fwd head so I can shut the fwd head drain off, but re-plumb the anchor locker drain T after the valve so its still clear.
Cheers Alan SV Elyse SM437 |
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Re: [Amel] Super Maramu ballooner for sale
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Model Amel? Super Maramu? Year? Fore or Mizzen? Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:09 AM, <richtate@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ???
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Alex, The manual states 90 weight oil for the bow thruster...and I certainly would not go with a lighter viscosity or Multi-grade gear oil such as 80W90, which is a lot more common than 90 weight. Single-grade oils are often called "straight-weight" oils.
Multi-grade oil has a different viscosity in Winter and Summer. 80W means 80 in the Winter. Multi-grade oil is really meant for use in transmissions and engines that get hot with continued use. Some owners have made a mixture of grease and 90 to make a thicker oil. I am not sure about that, but understand the advantages regarding increasing the seal at the propeller shaft. I believe thicker oil may be fine for warm climates, but could be an issue for colder climates...and the real issue is "how thick" and "how cold." Those are variables we do not know. With this in mind, I feel certain that Amel would not recommend the thickening of the bow thruster oil by adding grease.
Bill On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 5:10 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ???
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Hello Joel,
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I am certain I saw on the Amel invoice 80/90 somewhere and still have oil left. So is 80/90 ok for the Bow Thruster? Or will 90 make a difference and must be used. Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 11/2/13, Joel F Potter <jfpottercys@...> wrote:
Subject: RE: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ??? To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013, 12:13 AM The Amel invoice probably has a mistake about the Amel Drive lubrication as it is supposed to be 15W-40 motor oil according to the owner’s manual. Most boats have a small plaque near the oil reservoir for the Amel Drive that stated this. The bow thruster uses 90 weight gear lube, again according to the owner’s manual. All the best,Joel Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLCAmel's Sole Associate for the AmericasMailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485Email: jfpottercys@... From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 9:07 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ??? Quick question before I start the repair on the Bow Thruster: It seems I am supposed to put 90 SAE Gear oil in the Bow Thruster (as well as Amel Drive) - therefore it seems (according to the last bill from Amel Martinique) that they put 80/90 (at least in the Amel Drive - not sure about the Bow Thruster). What do you put in the Bow Thruster? Will 80/90 be ok? Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Seabrook, Texas, USA |
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Re: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ???
amelforme
The Amel invoice probably has a mistake about the Amel Drive lubrication as it is supposed to be 15W-40 motor oil according to the owner’s manual. Most boats have a small plaque near the oil reservoir for the Amel Drive that stated this.
The bow thruster uses 90 weight gear lube, again according to the owner’s manual.
All the best, Joel
Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485 Email: jfpottercys@...
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Alexandre Uster von Baar
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 9:07 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ???
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Re: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ???
Alexandre Uster von Baar
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For the bow Thruster "only" 90 or is 80/90 ok? I will double check the invoice and what amel put into the Amel Drive. Going to bed... Alexandre -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 11/2/13, Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ??? To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...> Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013, 12:03 AM 90 for the bow thruster...NOT Amel drive...it takes 15w40 Bill On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote: Quick question before I start the repair on the Bow Thruster: It seems I am supposed to put 90 SAE Gear oil in the Bow Thruster (as well as Amel Drive) - therefore it seems (according to the last bill from Amel Martinique) that they put 80/90 (at least in the Amel Drive - not sure about the Bow Thruster). What do you put in the Bow Thruster? Will 80/90 be ok? Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Seabrook, Texas, USA |
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Re: [Amel] Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ???
Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
90 for the bow thruster...NOT Amel drive...it takes 15w40 Bill On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:07 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:
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Super Maramu ballooner for sale
richtate@...
My standard factory-issued nylon ballooner is available. In excellent condition (seldom used). $1200 and I'll ship via UPS insured ground anywhere in continental USA. Can forward pics to interested purchaser(s).
Richard |
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Bow Thruster Oil: 90 or 80/90 ???
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Quick question before I start the repair on the Bow Thruster:
It seems I am supposed to put 90 SAE Gear oil in the Bow Thruster (as well as Amel Drive) - therefore it seems (according to the last bill from Amel Martinique) that they put 80/90 (at least in the Amel Drive - not sure about the Bow Thruster). What do you put in the Bow Thruster? Will 80/90 be ok? Thanks in advance, sincerely, Alexandre SM2K #289 NIKIMAT Seabrook, Texas, USA |
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Re: Watertight, my foot!
goughs_au@...
From SM# 378, "Mahili" Mike Gough Thanks Joel and Trevor for your replies regards water tight saloon bulkhead. I did end up taking a look at the plumbing penetrations on the extreme port side. I photographed and posted my findings under "watertight saloon bulkhead???" In this boat, launched late 2002 I found both sides of the bulkhead for the area concerned could be seen from the saloon, behind the settee, port of the aircond duct. The same pipes were seen low down, under a cover below the holding tank fwd head. As the photos show the pipes were nicely laid in conduit but I suspect on the day #378 was done someone forgot the sealant. Now after half a cartridge of silicone I have peace of mind! From: Joel F Potter <jfpottercys@...>
To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 3:21 PM Subject: RE: [Amel] RE: Watertight, my foot! Hi Mike and all other Super Maramu owners. There is quite a bit of confusion and not a little bit of misinformation floating around regarding this situation. Without attempting to correct anyone or step on any toes, there is indeed a “port” in the water tight saloon/forecabin bulkhead. It is on the port side beneath the sette area and allows various plumbing such as that for the anchor wash and the cooling water supply to the forward air conditioner to penetrate the water tight bulkhead as these supply hoses make their way forward from their engine room starting point. You may have to cut in an access port in this area as the way this area was finished varied over the years. On very early model 53’s, the port was made watertight with a white silicon type of sealer. Later model
boats had a clear RTV/silicon sealer. In both cases, the sealer filled in the area inside this round port to eliminate the chance of water coming rearward from the forecabin area between the spaces not filled by the various hoses. Seawater can make its way from the forecabin aft IF the sealant has been disturbed or has failed with age. It is not uncommon for boatyards not familiar with Amel boats to not know that the boat has watertight bulkheads and they don’t take measures to insure watertight integrity in this area when replacing the components within the port during maintenance or system replacement. This area is extremely difficult to access beneath the head/shower pan area and only fairly difficult to access from the saloon area portside. The installation of an access port can help in both areas. On later model 53’s such as yours and Trevor’s, the bow
thruster compartment was made into a nearly completely watertight compartment in response to an incident. It is difficult for water to flow from this area into the forward bilge and as Trevor points out, you would certainly be aware of it. As you know, this area has a shut off stopcock at its bottom and this feeds to a hose that conveys the water aft to the junction on the forward side of the Saloon/forecabin bulkhead. On earlier boats, pre-Millennium and from hull number one, the bow thruster area allows seawater to more easily enter the bilge area without telltale evidence. If a not inconsequential amount of water makes its way into the forecabin bilge, it can work its way aft into the saloon bilge area if the sealant in the port is not doing its job, provided you are
on starboard tack with a good bit of heel. I only offer this to be helpful and I hope it is. All the best, Joel Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard
#130-126 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485 Email: jfpottercys@... From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of seafeverofcuan@... Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:26 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel] RE: Watertight, my foot! Dear Mike, Please be aware that there is no problem. The original post is a misunderstanding of Amel plumbing. Seawater can not leak from the bow thruster housing as described without soaking the bedding, cushions and port and starboard lockers in the forward cabin. I have never heard of seawater entering the vessel via the piping for the heads, air con or chain washer as described. The pipe you describe is normally white plastic and takes the grey water from the shower and the sink to the bilge in the engine room. On some boats there is a
brown painted copper pipe which is Teed into the plastic pipe to carry excess seawater from the chain locker again to the bilge. In the event of an emergency you would shut the cabin door secure it with the wooden cross bar and you will have a water tight bulk head, even if you have a hole in the bow your boat will still float. At that point you would close the valves on both pipes to stop seawater continuing to drain into the bilge in the engine room from the shower tray and eventually burning out your bilge pump. First rule of thumb when you find any water inside your Amel put your finger in it and taste it. If it it fresh water ,which is more likely, then you have a leak somewhere around the galley. Good Luck, Trevor Lusty Sea Fever of Cuan SM 425 Ireland Mahili, SM2K #378. Mike Gough Thank you for alerting me of the problem, I have located the pipes from the saloon side, some are sealed others will require difficult inspection from the fwd head I think. Yes,your mail is missing a subject matter so that it can be found again by anyone searching for leaks from bowthruster. It is also missing a proper signature at the end giving your name, boat name model and number plus if you hope for a local’s response your location. Regards,
Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319, Malta Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster? Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage. Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French? |
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Re: [Amel] RE: Watertight, my foot!
Thanks Joel, that clears up the mystery for me. Kent From: Joel F Potter To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 3:21 PM Subject: RE: [Amel] RE: Watertight, my foot! Hi Mike and all other Super Maramu owners. There is quite a bit of confusion and not a little bit of misinformation floating around regarding this situation. Without attempting to correct anyone or step on any toes, there is indeed a “port” in the water tight saloon/forecabin bulkhead. It is on the port side beneath the sette area and allows various plumbing such as that for the anchor wash and the cooling water supply to the forward air conditioner to penetrate the water tight bulkhead as these supply hoses make their way forward from their engine room starting point. You may have to cut in an access port in this area as the way this area was finished varied over the years. On very early model 53’s, the port was made watertight with a white silicon type of sealer. Later model
boats had a clear RTV/silicon sealer. In both cases, the sealer filled in the area inside this round port to eliminate the chance of water coming rearward from the forecabin area between the spaces not filled by the various hoses. Seawater can make its way from the forecabin aft IF the sealant has been disturbed or has failed with age. It is not uncommon for boatyards not familiar with Amel boats to not know that the boat has watertight bulkheads and they don’t take measures to insure watertight integrity in this area when replacing the components within the port during maintenance or system replacement. This area is extremely difficult to access beneath the head/shower pan area and only fairly difficult to access from the saloon area portside. The installation of an access port can help in both areas. On later model 53’s such as yours and Trevor’s, the bow
thruster compartment was made into a nearly completely watertight compartment in response to an incident. It is difficult for water to flow from this area into the forward bilge and as Trevor points out, you would certainly be aware of it. As you know, this area has a shut off stopcock at its bottom and this feeds to a hose that conveys the water aft to the junction on the forward side of the Saloon/forecabin bulkhead. On earlier boats, pre-Millennium and from hull number one, the bow thruster area allows seawater to more easily enter the bilge area without telltale evidence. If a not inconsequential amount of water makes its way into the forecabin bilge, it can work its way aft into the saloon bilge area if the sealant in the port is not doing its job, provided you are
on starboard tack with a good bit of heel. I only offer this to be helpful and I hope it is. All the best, Joel Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard
#130-126 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485 Email: jfpottercys@... From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of seafeverofcuan@... Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:26 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel] RE: Watertight, my foot! Dear Mike, Please be aware that there is no problem. The original post is a misunderstanding of Amel plumbing. Seawater can not leak from the bow thruster housing as described without soaking the bedding, cushions and port and starboard lockers in the forward cabin. I have never heard of seawater entering the vessel via the piping for the heads, air con or chain washer as described. The pipe you describe is normally white plastic and takes the grey water from the shower and the sink to the bilge in the engine room. On some boats there is a
brown painted copper pipe which is Teed into the plastic pipe to carry excess seawater from the chain locker again to the bilge. In the event of an emergency you would shut the cabin door secure it with the wooden cross bar and you will have a water tight bulk head, even if you have a hole in the bow your boat will still float. At that point you would close the valves on both pipes to stop seawater continuing to drain into the bilge in the engine room from the shower tray and eventually burning out your bilge pump. First rule of thumb when you find any water inside your Amel put your finger in it and taste it. If it it fresh water ,which is more likely, then you have a leak somewhere around the galley. Good Luck, Trevor Lusty Sea Fever of Cuan SM 425 Ireland Mahili, SM2K #378. Mike Gough Thank you for alerting me of the problem, I have located the pipes from the saloon side, some are sealed others will require difficult inspection from the fwd head I think. Yes,your mail is missing a subject matter so that it can be found again by anyone searching for leaks from bowthruster. It is also missing a proper signature at the end giving your name, boat name model and number plus if you hope for a local’s response your location. Regards,
Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319, Malta Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster? Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage. Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French? |
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Re: [Amel] RE: Watertight, my foot!
amelforme
Hi Mike and all other Super Maramu owners. There is quite a bit of confusion and not a little bit of misinformation floating around regarding this situation. Without attempting to correct anyone or step on any toes, there is indeed a “port” in the water tight saloon/forecabin bulkhead. It is on the port side beneath the sette area and allows various plumbing such as that for the anchor wash and the cooling water supply to the forward air conditioner to penetrate the water tight bulkhead as these supply hoses make their way forward from their engine room starting point. You may have to cut in an access port in this area as the way this area was finished varied over the years.
On very early model 53’s, the port was made watertight with a white silicon type of sealer. Later model boats had a clear RTV/silicon sealer. In both cases, the sealer filled in the area inside this round port to eliminate the chance of water coming rearward from the forecabin area between the spaces not filled by the various hoses. Seawater can make its way from the forecabin aft IF the sealant has been disturbed or has failed with age. It is not uncommon for boatyards not familiar with Amel boats to not know that the boat has watertight bulkheads and they don’t take measures to insure watertight integrity in this area when replacing the components within the port during maintenance or system replacement. This area is extremely difficult to access beneath the head/shower pan area and only fairly difficult to access from the saloon area portside. The installation of an access port can help in both areas.
On later model 53’s such as yours and Trevor’s, the bow thruster compartment was made into a nearly completely watertight compartment in response to an incident. It is difficult for water to flow from this area into the forward bilge and as Trevor points out, you would certainly be aware of it. As you know, this area has a shut off stopcock at its bottom and this feeds to a hose that conveys the water aft to the junction on the forward side of the Saloon/forecabin bulkhead.
On earlier boats, pre-Millennium and from hull number one, the bow thruster area allows seawater to more easily enter the bilge area without telltale evidence.
If a not inconsequential amount of water makes its way into the forecabin bilge, it can work its way aft into the saloon bilge area if the sealant in the port is not doing its job, provided you are on starboard tack with a good bit of heel.
I only offer this to be helpful and I hope it is.
All the best, Joel
Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126 Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301 Phone: (954) 462-5869 Cell: (954) 812-2485 Email: jfpottercys@...
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of seafeverofcuan@...
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 2:26 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel] RE: Watertight, my foot!
Dear Mike, Please be aware that there is no problem. The original post is a misunderstanding of Amel plumbing. Seawater can not leak from the bow thruster housing as described without soaking the bedding, cushions and port and starboard lockers in the forward cabin. I have never heard of seawater entering the vessel via the piping for the heads, air con or chain washer as described. The pipe you describe is normally white plastic and takes the grey water from the shower and the sink to the bilge in the engine room. On some boats there is a brown painted copper pipe which is Teed into the plastic pipe to carry excess seawater from the chain locker again to the bilge. In the event of an emergency you would shut the cabin door secure it with the wooden cross bar and you will have a water tight bulk head, even if you have a hole in the bow your boat will still float. At that point you would close the valves on both pipes to stop seawater continuing to drain into the bilge in the engine room from the shower tray and eventually burning out your bilge pump. First rule of thumb when you find any water inside your Amel put your finger in it and taste it. If it it fresh water ,which is more likely, then you have a leak somewhere around the galley. Good Luck, Trevor Lusty Sea Fever of Cuan SM 425 Ireland
Mahili, SM2K #378. Mike Gough Thank you for alerting me of the problem, I have located the pipes from the saloon side, some are sealed others will require difficult inspection from the fwd head I think.
Yes,your mail is missing a subject matter so that it can be found again by anyone searching for leaks from bowthruster. It is also missing a proper signature at the end giving your name, boat name model and number plus if you hope for a local’s response your location.
Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319, Malta
Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster? Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage. Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French? |
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Re: Watertight, my foot!
seafeverofcuan@...
Dear Mike, Please be aware that there is no problem. The original post is a misunderstanding of Amel plumbing. Seawater can not leak from the bow thruster housing as described without soaking the bedding, cushions and port and starboard lockers in the forward cabin. I have never heard of seawater entering the vessel via the piping for the heads, air con or chain washer as described. The pipe you describe is normally white plastic and takes the grey water from the shower and the sink to the bilge in the engine room. On some boats there is a brown painted copper pipe which is Teed into the plastic pipe to carry excess seawater from the chain locker again to the bilge. In the event of an emergency you would shut the cabin door secure it with the wooden cross bar and you will have a water tight bulk head, even if you have a hole in the bow your boat will still float. At that point you would close the valves on both pipes to stop seawater continuing to drain into the bilge in the engine room from the shower tray and eventually burning out your bilge pump. First rule of thumb when you find any water inside your Amel put your finger in it and taste it. If it it fresh water ,which is more likely, then you have a leak somewhere around the galley. Good Luck, Trevor Lusty Sea Fever of Cuan SM 425 Ireland
---In amelyachtowners@..., <goughs_au@...> wrote: Mahili, SM2K #378. Mike Gough Thank you for alerting me of the problem, I have located the pipes from the saloon side, some are sealed others will require difficult inspection from the fwd head I think. Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster? Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we
were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes
for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards
storage.
Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means
something else in French? |
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Re: Problem with Bamar furler to Amel 54
kaj.liljebladh@...
Peter Nice to hear that you have no problems. Lets hope that it stay like that. Sorry, I did miss to give name, here it comes Boatname: Amelit No 128 Best wishes Kaj Liljebladh www.amelit.se Chaguaramas Trinidad ---In amelyachtowners@..., <ppsforbes@...> wrote: On 1 Nov 2013, at 11:00, "Dimitris Krassopoulos" <dkra@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Problem with Bamar furler to Amel 54
On 1 Nov 2013, at 11:00, "Dimitris Krassopoulos" <dkra@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Problem with Bamar furler to Amel 54
Dimitris Krassopoulos <dkra@...>
Peter,
You still have no problems, The quality of the gears is bad and they create brass particles in the furler. If one of the teeth is damaged even the facnor system is of no help as the furler is stacked. Take care. I have pictures of the damaged gears if you are interested.
Dimitris Alma Libre Too Amel 54 In Greece
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Peter Forbes
You don't give a name?and what is the serial number of your 54?
I have a 54 no 035 and have sailed for 6 weeks now with no problem yet with the smaller Bamar furler. We even had the Geneker halyard caught round the unfurling Genoa and it jammed the furler we reversed it and sorted the problem - all OK this far.
As an insurance policy I have bought a manual furler assist from Facnor in France. It's worth lookin at www.facnor.com - might come in handy one day.
Best wishes
Amel 54 #035 On 31 Oct 2013, at 15:54, <kaj.liljebladh@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Problem with Bamar furler to Amel 54
You don't give a name?and what is the serial number of your 54? I have a 54 no 035 and have sailed for 6 weeks now with no problem yet with the smaller Bamar furler. We even had the Geneker halyard caught round the unfurling Genoa and it jammed the furler we reversed it and sorted the problem - all OK this far. As an insurance policy I have bought a manual furler assist from Facnor in France. It's worth lookin at www.facnor.com - might come in handy one day. Best wishes Peter Forbes Amel 54 #035 On 31 Oct 2013, at 15:54, <kaj.liljebladh@...> wrote:
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