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Re: [Amel] Sails in Madeira
alessandro gennai <agennai@...>
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Alesssandro,
Speak with Catia in the marina office. She will know. Regards, Trevor SM 425 Ireland
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Re: [Amel] RE: Fresh Water Pump
Dennis woods
Many thanks for that. Do you have a photo of the installation. Happy Sails. Dennis Woods. IL FLAUTO MAGICO sm 408
On 25 Oct 2013, at 23:58, < capt.anderson@...> wrote:
Here's how I solved my SM fresh water pump problem:
I am always VERY reluctant to change anything on my SM because Amel always does everything for a good reason. But after reading of all of the many options and considerations to solve fresh water pump problems I solved my problem by using a different pump and am very, very pleased with the result.
If you're a good mechanic like many of the best advisers on this forum are then you may just as easily follow their instructions and adjust, repair or replace the "Square D" pressure switch. But after spending several frustrating hours on this I chose to go with a simpler solution.
I removed the factory A.M.F.A. pump and small 'surge-tank' and replaced it with a "Shurflo Aqua King II Premium Fresh Water Pump", Shurflo part # 4158-163-E75. Cost was about $220.00US. (You will also need Shurflo part # 244-3936 Pump Fittings/Adapters, 1⁄2" Female NPT Wing Nut to 5⁄8" Barb , Elbow
Swivel Fitting, about $3.00US)
I left the Amel accumulator tank in place so the new pump does not cycle for small things like getting a drink of water.
After removing the old pump and small tank all I had to do was hook up the input and output hoses and the (+) and (-) wires. To make it so that the green "pump on" light comes on, connect small black Amel wire to the red wire that goes from the front of the new pump to the back of it.
This system provides 55 PSI and taking a shower is now just like taking one on land, with no fluctuations in pressure, and lots of it.
The pump is designed to prevent cycling so that at low demand it takes some of the output water and returns it back to the input (kind of like a 'wastegate'.) This way, although the pump does come on sooner than with the factory system, it doesn't cycle on and of very much at all. I've only had this system in place a few weeks but so far am completely satisfied and actually prefer it to the old system.
Best,
Jim
SM 384 Sirena Azul
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Re: [Amel] Santorin - Autohelm Control Unit
after considering pros and cons we purchased now a spx300 course computer package with the p70 control unit, serviced the rotary drive and carry the repaired autohelm 100+st7000 as spare parts. any part of the hole system can now be replaced by a spare part if needed (except the rotary drive) herbert santorin #120 kali mera ---In amelyachtowners@..., <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hello, yes we did change the control unit and the gyro. Overall the performance is better, quicker and take less power. We bought the Raymarine full replacement while in France but keep the original rotary drive. When we check the gears of the rotary drive in Martinique, they where at the end of there life after more then 20 years of use, lots of wears, we replaced the origins plastics gears with new bronze gears• I now thinking of carrying a spare rotary drive unit.
JP S/V Vanille
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Le 2013-10-23 à 07:01, < herbert@...> a écrit :
hi jp,
did you replace an autohelm 300 or 100 course computer with the x30? did you replace also the ST7000 control unit? what control unit do you use now? does the new system work better than the old one - is the gyro-sensor helpful?
what kind of problems occured with the old autopilot?
thanks, herbert
santorin 120, kali mera ---In amelyachtowners@..., < amelyachtowners@...> wrote: We cross the Antlantic last January with the original pilot. In Martinique we install a new Raymarine X30 control and fluxgate and service the rotary drive with new gears.we than cross to Bermuda and Cheasapeak Bay. So far all work fine.With the Amel setup those pilot don't work hard.
J-P Massicotte Santorin #51, Vanille
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Re: E: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
thanks attilio, kali mera is in sukosan until april. then we are looking for an effortable place to leave her until september, if possible reachable by car from vienna (so if you know a good and not too expensive place in italy...). are you satisfied with the davits - would you install them again - and what budget is needed :-)
fair winds
herbert santorin #120, kali mera
---In amelyachtowners@..., <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hi Herbert,
I'll try to have the drawings from the workshop that made them. They should be in Autocad.
The workshop is in Monfalcone, near Trieste, NE Italy. They also fitted the davits.
Where are you based?
Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
Il giorno 25/ott/2013, alle ore 12:32, herbert@... ha scritto:
Hi Attilio and Maria,
do you have some more photos from your davits? Do you have construction plans? Are you satisfied with the solution? We are thinking of equipping our santorin with davits, too.
thanks,
herbert
santorin #120, kali mera
---In amelyachtowners@..., <attilio.siviero@...> wrote: Hi all, finally here is (in Photos section, Album Sisila) what we didi to extend the passerella, due to increased dimensions of dinghies nowadays. I did not want to add steps to the original passerella, for the considerable amount of welding work to be done, and also because we use the passerella as bath ladder, and it is heavy enough. So when we go back to the mooring, and we have the dinghy, we stay far enough from the pontoon and we put the dinghy on water, releasing the right boomerang davit, we install the passerella as usual, linked to the spectra rope coming from the mizzen mast, and also linked to the right davit: this way the passerella is far more stable. Also, since sometimes the passerella has a gap from the pontoon, and it could be a problem for somebody, when this is the case we install a simple aluminum plate extension, hinged to the end of the passerella, with minimal modification to the passerella, a couple of metal eyes. If we can easily jump across the gap, we leave the extension in the lazarette. In case of bad weather and waves, to avoid night noises, we can lift the extension with a strop linked to the same davit. This is a suggestion if somebody has the same problem we had with the passerella and boomerang davits. Fair winds Attilio&Maria Santorin #84 "Sisila" ---In amelyachtowners@..., < amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hello Attilio and Maria, Yes I could send a pic after my next trip to Sicily but there is not much point as it would look just like the original and you would have to count the steps to know. However please let me know if you think it would help. best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319 -----Original Message----- From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:16 PM To: amelyachtowners@...Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank Hi John, since we have all the winter time now in the Med to extend the passerelle, I think that soon or later you will be in Sicily again, thus that time please could you take a shot and post it? Thanks a lot Attilio & Maria Siviero Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila" Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 16:01, Io < cptbiffi@...> ha scritto: > Thanks very much for info stefano
>
> Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 15:32, "Anne and John Hollamby"
> <annejohnholl@...> ha scritto:
>
> > Hello Stefano, Sorry, no I have not posted any pics and now cannot do so
> > as we are in Malta and the boat is in Marina di Ragusa, Sicily.
> > However there is nothing complicated about it. I just took the
> > passerelle to a workshop dealing in aluminium welding and told them what
> > I wanted, i.e. a two step extension put into the centre maintaining the
> > curved profile. I think that they may have inserted some short aluminium
> > rods or pipes inside the tubes to add strength The original steps were
> > put into the new centre steps and I made new ones to go at the top of
> > the ladder so that they do not go in the water when in use.
> > I hope this helps.
> > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319
> >
> > From: stefano biffi
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: amelyachtowners@...
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > hi john did you post any picture of your smart/longer passerelle? I
> > tried to find in the web,no bingo done. thanks
> > stefano
> >
> > N'EVEREST
> > SM185 in Bocca di Magra
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Da: Anne and John Hollamby <mailto:annejohnholl%40gmail.com>
> > A: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Inviato: Domenica 16 Settembre 2012 12:19
> > Oggetto: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > Thanks for your message. One thing I forgot to mention was that we made
> > a
> > new board to fit the longer passarelle. It is marine ply and to make it
> > long
> > enough we added another piece attached with brass hinges on the
> > underside
> > and fixed with countersunk machine screws and and nuts. Thus it folds
> > back
> > and opens up when fitted in place so it is slotted in at both ends. It
> > is
> > made non slip with two strips of white non slip adhesive tape running
> > the
> > full length We have an elastic line to hook over the board as the first
> > one
> > we made blew away one night never to be seen again.
> >
> > Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:06 PM
> > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: Buttignol ssa
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer gangplank
> >
> > Hello, Anne and John, extremely grateful for the help and the very
> > accurate
> > explanation.
> >
> > The matter to extend the passerella (gangplank) was already in my mind.
> > Also
> > the matter to use dyneema and a spacer, that I already got.
> >
> > Also useful the suggestion to use the red line to hoist dinghy+motor,
> > but
> > normally we hoist the motor by a separate small davit on stern starboard
> > side. We have a 2.7m Honda dinghy and a 5hp 4-strokes Honda motor, some
> > 30kg
> > weight.
> >
> > Thanks a lot again, fair winds
> >
> > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> >
> > Il giorno 15/set/2012, alle ore 15:06, Anne and John Hollamby
> > <mailto:annejohnholl%40gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > > The gangplank is not really long enough for mooring stern-to possibly
> > > because it was not updated when the tube size on inflatables was
> > > increased
> > > in the late eighties/nineties. The owner of SM Galaxie increased the
> > > length
> > > by two steps and I copied him. It is supported by what we call the red
> > > line
> > > which is the one attached to the mizzen mast at the spreader on a
> > > block.
> > > The
> > > red line is dyneema and 8mm which is more than strong enough. The red
> > > line
> > > is attached to a spacer so that there are two lines going down to the
> > > end
> > > of
> > > the gangplank via a piece of wood to open the gap between them. These
> > > attach
> > > to the gangplank on U-bolts a piece of teak which is wider than the
> > > plank
> > > and secured with saddle clips.
> > > Our dinghy is a Honwav 30 and weighs 45 kg and this is secured to our
> > > davits
> > > on 4 part blocks with a jam cleat welded on to the davit. The davit
> > > itself
> > > is supported on 6 part tackles on blocks with jam cleats on the deck.
> > > It
> > > is
> > > hard to hoist the dinghy on these but it becomes impossible if we want
> > > to
> > > hoist it with a 15 HP 2 stroke motor in place. However it is lifted
> > > with
> > > great ease by by using the two red lines from the gangplank and
> > > shackling
> > > them on to the ends of the davits which are then lowered right down to
> > > the
> > > the blocks on the tackle and then lifting everything on the red line
> > > either
> > > by winding it up by hand on the mizzen outhaul winch or, as I am in my
> > > eighties, on the main sheet winch.
> > > We also use the mainsheet winch to hoist the dinghy on the red line so
> > > that
> > > we can clean the dinghy or let it down on the aft cabin top for longer
> > > passages or over wintering. We hope this helps!
> > >
> > > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali
> > > Hai, SM2K 319
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:47 AM
> > > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits
> > >
> > > Thanks Richard, not useful but encouraging ;-)
> > >
> > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila" in Monfalcone IT
> > >
> > > Il giorno 11/set/2012, alle ore 20:34, Richard03801
> > > <mailto:richard03801%40yahoo.com>
> > > ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > We have those on our SM with 4:1 blocks thay work very well
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Richard Piller
> > > >
> > > > Cell 603 767 5330
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:47, Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > > <mailto:attilio.siviero%40yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am just thinking to fit on my Santorin a couple of davits
> > > > > similar to
> > > > > the ones made by a workshop in La Rochelle, and called Boomerang.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have seen several SMs with those davits, and I know that also
> > > > > some
> > > > > Santorins has been fitted with same davits, obviously adapted to
> > > > > the
> > > > > different size of the stern.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I would like to know for a 2.7m tender (Honda) which tackles
> > > > > (with
> > > > > triple blocks: we are getting old...) are normally used for these
> > > > > davits? I think that a tackle with blocks of 45mm dia, and 10mm
> > > > > rope
> > > > > (working load of the blocks 450kg) should be sufficient.
> > > > > Naturally,
> > > > > one
> > > > > triple block should be with cam-cleat.
> > > > >
> > > > > And how long is the tackle completely closed. This is to position
> > > > > correctly the holding shackle.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anybody with a SM or a Santorin has these davits, maybe he can
> > > > > give
> > > > > me this info/opinion?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for an answer
> > > > >
> > > > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> > >
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Re: [Amel] RE: mattress quality
Chris Smither <yachtakwaaba@...>
Friends had these and they rusted in the tropics, Chris Santorin sloop
On 26 Oct 2013, at 08:53, Ann-Sofie Svanberg < kanalmamman@...> wrote:
Why don't you get matresses made out of springs instead, stainless steel springs? They last longer and is more comfortable.
/Ann-Sofie SY Lady Annila, SM232
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Hi In Australia we went to an upholstery supplier and made our matresses out of 3 layers of foam. with closed cell foam as the base,and memory foam as the top layer.
We also removed the Amel cotton base of the cushions and replaced with nylon open mesh fabric, thus allowing the mattress to breath, We were advised to sit on washable bathtowels towels in the saloon in the tropics to reduce damage from sweat and suncream. hope this helps Cris and Mike S/v Akwaaba santorin sloop
---In amelyachtowners@..., < amelyachtowners@...> wrote: does anybody know what kind of foam (material, quality, strength) amel used for the mattress in the sm or santorin? we could not find such a soft foam material in the shop.
thanks, herbert
santorin 120, kali mera
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Alesssandro, Speak with Catia in the marina office. She will know. Regards, Trevor SM 425 Ireland
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Re: [Amel] RE: mattress quality
Ann-Sofie Svanberg <kanalmamman@...>
Why don't you get matresses made out of springs instead, stainless steel springs? They last longer and is more comfortable.
/Ann-Sofie SY Lady Annila, SM232
Skickat från min iPad
Hi In Australia we went to an upholstery supplier and made our matresses out of 3 layers of foam. with closed cell foam as the base,and memory foam as the top layer.
We also removed the Amel cotton base of the cushions and replaced with nylon open mesh fabric, thus allowing the mattress to breath, We were advised to sit on washable bathtowels towels in the saloon in the tropics to reduce damage from sweat and suncream. hope this helps Cris and Mike S/v Akwaaba santorin sloop
---In amelyachtowners@..., < amelyachtowners@...> wrote: does anybody know what kind of foam (material, quality, strength) amel used for the mattress in the sm or santorin? we could not find such a soft foam material in the shop.
thanks, herbert
santorin 120, kali mera
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E: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
Hi Herbert,
I'll try to have the drawings from the workshop that made them. They should be in Autocad.
The workshop is in Monfalcone, near Trieste, NE Italy. They also fitted the davits.
Where are you based?
Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
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Il giorno 25/ott/2013, alle ore 12:32, herbert@... ha scritto:
Hi Attilio and Maria,
do you have some more photos from your davits? Do you have construction plans? Are you satisfied with the solution? We are thinking of equipping our santorin with davits, too.
thanks,
herbert
santorin #120, kali mera
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote: Hi all, finally here is (in Photos section, Album Sisila) what we didi to extend the passerella, due to increased dimensions of dinghies nowadays. I did not want to add steps to the original passerella, for the considerable amount of welding work to be done, and also because we use the passerella as bath ladder, and it is heavy enough. So when we go back to the mooring, and we have the dinghy, we stay far enough from the pontoon and we put the dinghy on water, releasing the right boomerang davit, we install the passerella as usual, linked to the spectra rope coming from the mizzen mast, and also linked to the right davit: this way the passerella is far more stable. Also, since sometimes the passerella has a gap from the pontoon, and it could be a problem for somebody, when this is the case we install a simple aluminum plate extension, hinged to the end of the passerella, with minimal modification to the passerella, a couple of metal eyes. If we can easily jump across the gap, we leave the extension in the lazarette. In case of bad weather and waves, to avoid night noises, we can lift the extension with a strop linked to the same davit. This is a suggestion if somebody has the same problem we had with the passerella and boomerang davits. Fair winds Attilio&Maria Santorin #84 "Sisila" ---In amelyachtowners@..., < amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hello Attilio and Maria, Yes I could send a pic after my next trip to Sicily but there is not much point as it would look just like the original and you would have to count the steps to know. However please let me know if you think it would help. best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319 -----Original Message----- From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:16 PM To: amelyachtowners@...Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank Hi John, since we have all the winter time now in the Med to extend the passerelle, I think that soon or later you will be in Sicily again, thus that time please could you take a shot and post it? Thanks a lot Attilio & Maria Siviero Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila" Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 16:01, Io < cptbiffi@...> ha scritto: > Thanks very much for info stefano
>
> Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 15:32, "Anne and John Hollamby"
> <annejohnholl@...> ha scritto:
>
> > Hello Stefano, Sorry, no I have not posted any pics and now cannot do so
> > as we are in Malta and the boat is in Marina di Ragusa, Sicily.
> > However there is nothing complicated about it. I just took the
> > passerelle to a workshop dealing in aluminium welding and told them what
> > I wanted, i.e. a two step extension put into the centre maintaining the
> > curved profile. I think that they may have inserted some short aluminium
> > rods or pipes inside the tubes to add strength The original steps were
> > put into the new centre steps and I made new ones to go at the top of
> > the ladder so that they do not go in the water when in use.
> > I hope this helps.
> > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319
> >
> > From: stefano biffi
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: amelyachtowners@...
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > hi john did you post any picture of your smart/longer passerelle? I
> > tried to find in the web,no bingo done. thanks
> > stefano
> >
> > N'EVEREST
> > SM185 in Bocca di Magra
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Da: Anne and John Hollamby 40gmail.com>
> > A: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Inviato: Domenica 16 Settembre 2012 12:19
> > Oggetto: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > Thanks for your message. One thing I forgot to mention was that we made
> > a
> > new board to fit the longer passarelle. It is marine ply and to make it
> > long
> > enough we added another piece attached with brass hinges on the
> > underside
> > and fixed with countersunk machine screws and and nuts. Thus it folds
> > back
> > and opens up when fitted in place so it is slotted in at both ends. It
> > is
> > made non slip with two strips of white non slip adhesive tape running
> > the
> > full length We have an elastic line to hook over the board as the first
> > one
> > we made blew away one night never to be seen again.
> >
> > Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:06 PM
> > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: Buttignol ssa
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer gangplank
> >
> > Hello, Anne and John, extremely grateful for the help and the very
> > accurate
> > explanation.
> >
> > The matter to extend the passerella (gangplank) was already in my mind.
> > Also
> > the matter to use dyneema and a spacer, that I already got.
> >
> > Also useful the suggestion to use the red line to hoist dinghy+motor,
> > but
> > normally we hoist the motor by a separate small davit on stern starboard
> > side. We have a 2.7m Honda dinghy and a 5hp 4-strokes Honda motor, some
> > 30kg
> > weight.
> >
> > Thanks a lot again, fair winds
> >
> > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> >
> > Il giorno 15/set/2012, alle ore 15:06, Anne and John Hollamby
> > 40gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > > The gangplank is not really long enough for mooring stern-to possibly
> > > because it was not updated when the tube size on inflatables was
> > > increased
> > > in the late eighties/nineties. The owner of SM Galaxie increased the
> > > length
> > > by two steps and I copied him. It is supported by what we call the red
> > > line
> > > which is the one attached to the mizzen mast at the spreader on a
> > > block.
> > > The
> > > red line is dyneema and 8mm which is more than strong enough. The red
> > > line
> > > is attached to a spacer so that there are two lines going down to the
> > > end
> > > of
> > > the gangplank via a piece of wood to open the gap between them. These
> > > attach
> > > to the gangplank on U-bolts a piece of teak which is wider than the
> > > plank
> > > and secured with saddle clips.
> > > Our dinghy is a Honwav 30 and weighs 45 kg and this is secured to our
> > > davits
> > > on 4 part blocks with a jam cleat welded on to the davit. The davit
> > > itself
> > > is supported on 6 part tackles on blocks with jam cleats on the deck.
> > > It
> > > is
> > > hard to hoist the dinghy on these but it becomes impossible if we want
> > > to
> > > hoist it with a 15 HP 2 stroke motor in place. However it is lifted
> > > with
> > > great ease by by using the two red lines from the gangplank and
> > > shackling
> > > them on to the ends of the davits which are then lowered right down to
> > > the
> > > the blocks on the tackle and then lifting everything on the red line
> > > either
> > > by winding it up by hand on the mizzen outhaul winch or, as I am in my
> > > eighties, on the main sheet winch.
> > > We also use the mainsheet winch to hoist the dinghy on the red line so
> > > that
> > > we can clean the dinghy or let it down on the aft cabin top for longer
> > > passages or over wintering. We hope this helps!
> > >
> > > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali
> > > Hai, SM2K 319
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:47 AM
> > > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits
> > >
> > > Thanks Richard, not useful but encouraging ;-)
> > >
> > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila" in Monfalcone IT
> > >
> > > Il giorno 11/set/2012, alle ore 20:34, Richard03801
> > > 40yahoo.com>
> > > ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > We have those on our SM with 4:1 blocks thay work very well
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Richard Piller
> > > >
> > > > Cell 603 767 5330
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:47, Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > > 40yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am just thinking to fit on my Santorin a couple of davits
> > > > > similar to
> > > > > the ones made by a workshop in La Rochelle, and called Boomerang.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have seen several SMs with those davits, and I know that also
> > > > > some
> > > > > Santorins has been fitted with same davits, obviously adapted to
> > > > > the
> > > > > different size of the stern.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I would like to know for a 2.7m tender (Honda) which tackles
> > > > > (with
> > > > > triple blocks: we are getting old...) are normally used for these
> > > > > davits? I think that a tackle with blocks of 45mm dia, and 10mm
> > > > > rope
> > > > > (working load of the blocks 450kg) should be sufficient.
> > > > > Naturally,
> > > > > one
> > > > > triple block should be with cam-cleat.
> > > > >
> > > > > And how long is the tackle completely closed. This is to position
> > > > > correctly the holding shackle.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anybody with a SM or a Santorin has these davits, maybe he can
> > > > > give
> > > > > me this info/opinion?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for an answer
> > > > >
> > > > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
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Siviero Attilio <attilio.siviero@...>
Hi Herbert,
I'll try to have the drawings from the workshop that made them. They should be in Autocad.
The workshop is in Monfalcone, near Trieste, NE Italy. They also fitted the davits.
Where are you based?
Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
Il giorno 25/ott/2013, alle ore 12:32, herbert@... ha scritto:
Hi Attilio and Maria,
do you have some more photos from your davits? Do you have construction plans? Are you satisfied with the solution? We are thinking of equipping our santorin with davits, too.
thanks,
herbert
santorin #120, kali mera
---In amelyachtowners@..., Hi all, finally here is (in Photos section, Album Sisila) what we didi to extend the passerella, due to increased dimensions of dinghies nowadays. I did not want to add steps to the original passerella, for the considerable amount of welding work to be done, and also because we use the passerella as bath ladder, and it is heavy enough. So when we go back to the mooring, and we have the dinghy, we stay far enough from the pontoon and we put the dinghy on water, releasing the right boomerang davit, we install the passerella as usual, linked to the spectra rope coming from the mizzen mast, and also linked to the right davit: this way the passerella is far more stable. Also, since sometimes the passerella has a gap from the pontoon, and it could be a problem for somebody, when this is the case we install a simple aluminum plate extension, hinged to the end of the passerella, with minimal modification to the passerella, a couple of metal eyes. If we can easily jump across the gap, we leave the extension in the lazarette. In case of bad weather and waves, to avoid night noises, we can lift the extension with a strop linked to the same davit. This is a suggestion if somebody has the same problem we had with the passerella and boomerang davits. Fair winds Attilio&Maria Santorin #84 "Sisila" ---In amelyachtowners@..., < amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hello Attilio and Maria, Yes I could send a pic after my next trip to Sicily but there is not much point as it would look just like the original and you would have to count the steps to know. However please let me know if you think it would help. best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319 -----Original Message----- From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:16 PM To: amelyachtowners@...Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank Hi John, since we have all the winter time now in the Med to extend the passerelle, I think that soon or later you will be in Sicily again, thus that time please could you take a shot and post it? Thanks a lot Attilio & Maria Siviero Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila" Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 16:01, Io < cptbiffi@...> ha scritto: > Thanks very much for info stefano
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> Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 15:32, "Anne and John Hollamby"
> <annejohnholl@...> ha scritto:
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> > Hello Stefano, Sorry, no I have not posted any pics and now cannot do so
> > as we are in Malta and the boat is in Marina di Ragusa, Sicily.
> > However there is nothing complicated about it. I just took the
> > passerelle to a workshop dealing in aluminium welding and told them what
> > I wanted, i.e. a two step extension put into the centre maintaining the
> > curved profile. I think that they may have inserted some short aluminium
> > rods or pipes inside the tubes to add strength The original steps were
> > put into the new centre steps and I made new ones to go at the top of
> > the ladder so that they do not go in the water when in use.
> > I hope this helps.
> > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319
> >
> > From: stefano biffi
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: amelyachtowners@...
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > hi john did you post any picture of your smart/longer passerelle? I
> > tried to find in the web,no bingo done. thanks
> > stefano
> >
> > N'EVEREST
> > SM185 in Bocca di Magra
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Da: Anne and John Hollamby 40gmail.com>
> > A: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Inviato: Domenica 16 Settembre 2012 12:19
> > Oggetto: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > Thanks for your message. One thing I forgot to mention was that we made
> > a
> > new board to fit the longer passarelle. It is marine ply and to make it
> > long
> > enough we added another piece attached with brass hinges on the
> > underside
> > and fixed with countersunk machine screws and and nuts. Thus it folds
> > back
> > and opens up when fitted in place so it is slotted in at both ends. It
> > is
> > made non slip with two strips of white non slip adhesive tape running
> > the
> > full length We have an elastic line to hook over the board as the first
> > one
> > we made blew away one night never to be seen again.
> >
> > Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:06 PM
> > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: Buttignol ssa
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer gangplank
> >
> > Hello, Anne and John, extremely grateful for the help and the very
> > accurate
> > explanation.
> >
> > The matter to extend the passerella (gangplank) was already in my mind.
> > Also
> > the matter to use dyneema and a spacer, that I already got.
> >
> > Also useful the suggestion to use the red line to hoist dinghy+motor,
> > but
> > normally we hoist the motor by a separate small davit on stern starboard
> > side. We have a 2.7m Honda dinghy and a 5hp 4-strokes Honda motor, some
> > 30kg
> > weight.
> >
> > Thanks a lot again, fair winds
> >
> > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> >
> > Il giorno 15/set/2012, alle ore 15:06, Anne and John Hollamby
> > 40gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > > The gangplank is not really long enough for mooring stern-to possibly
> > > because it was not updated when the tube size on inflatables was
> > > increased
> > > in the late eighties/nineties. The owner of SM Galaxie increased the
> > > length
> > > by two steps and I copied him. It is supported by what we call the red
> > > line
> > > which is the one attached to the mizzen mast at the spreader on a
> > > block.
> > > The
> > > red line is dyneema and 8mm which is more than strong enough. The red
> > > line
> > > is attached to a spacer so that there are two lines going down to the
> > > end
> > > of
> > > the gangplank via a piece of wood to open the gap between them. These
> > > attach
> > > to the gangplank on U-bolts a piece of teak which is wider than the
> > > plank
> > > and secured with saddle clips.
> > > Our dinghy is a Honwav 30 and weighs 45 kg and this is secured to our
> > > davits
> > > on 4 part blocks with a jam cleat welded on to the davit. The davit
> > > itself
> > > is supported on 6 part tackles on blocks with jam cleats on the deck.
> > > It
> > > is
> > > hard to hoist the dinghy on these but it becomes impossible if we want
> > > to
> > > hoist it with a 15 HP 2 stroke motor in place. However it is lifted
> > > with
> > > great ease by by using the two red lines from the gangplank and
> > > shackling
> > > them on to the ends of the davits which are then lowered right down to
> > > the
> > > the blocks on the tackle and then lifting everything on the red line
> > > either
> > > by winding it up by hand on the mizzen outhaul winch or, as I am in my
> > > eighties, on the main sheet winch.
> > > We also use the mainsheet winch to hoist the dinghy on the red line so
> > > that
> > > we can clean the dinghy or let it down on the aft cabin top for longer
> > > passages or over wintering. We hope this helps!
> > >
> > > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali
> > > Hai, SM2K 319
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:47 AM
> > > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits
> > >
> > > Thanks Richard, not useful but encouraging ;-)
> > >
> > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila" in Monfalcone IT
> > >
> > > Il giorno 11/set/2012, alle ore 20:34, Richard03801
> > > 40yahoo.com>
> > > ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > We have those on our SM with 4:1 blocks thay work very well
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Richard Piller
> > > >
> > > > Cell 603 767 5330
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:47, Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > > 40yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am just thinking to fit on my Santorin a couple of davits
> > > > > similar to
> > > > > the ones made by a workshop in La Rochelle, and called Boomerang.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have seen several SMs with those davits, and I know that also
> > > > > some
> > > > > Santorins has been fitted with same davits, obviously adapted to
> > > > > the
> > > > > different size of the stern.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I would like to know for a 2.7m tender (Honda) which tackles
> > > > > (with
> > > > > triple blocks: we are getting old...) are normally used for these
> > > > > davits? I think that a tackle with blocks of 45mm dia, and 10mm
> > > > > rope
> > > > > (working load of the blocks 450kg) should be sufficient.
> > > > > Naturally,
> > > > > one
> > > > > triple block should be with cam-cleat.
> > > > >
> > > > > And how long is the tackle completely closed. This is to position
> > > > > correctly the holding shackle.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anybody with a SM or a Santorin has these davits, maybe he can
> > > > > give
> > > > > me this info/opinion?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for an answer
> > > > >
> > > > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
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Here's how I solved my SM fresh water pump problem:
I am always VERY reluctant to change anything on my SM because Amel always does everything for a good reason. But after reading of all of the many options and considerations to solve fresh water pump problems I solved my problem by using a different pump and am very, very pleased with the result.
If you're a good mechanic like many of the best advisers on this forum are then you may just as easily follow their instructions and adjust, repair or replace the "Square D" pressure switch. But after spending several frustrating hours on this I chose to go with a simpler solution.
I removed the factory A.M.F.A. pump and small 'surge-tank' and replaced it with a "Shurflo Aqua King II Premium Fresh Water Pump", Shurflo part # 4158-163-E75. Cost was about $220.00US. (You will also need Shurflo part # 244-3936 Pump Fittings/Adapters, 1⁄2" Female NPT Wing Nut to 5⁄8" Barb , Elbow
Swivel Fitting, about $3.00US)
I left the Amel accumulator tank in place so the new pump does not cycle for small things like getting a drink of water.
After removing the old pump and small tank all I had to do was hook up the input and output hoses and the (+) and (-) wires. To make it so that the green "pump on" light comes on, connect small black Amel wire to the red wire that goes from the front of the new pump to the back of it.
This system provides 55 PSI and taking a shower is now just like taking one on land, with no fluctuations in pressure, and lots of it.
The pump is designed to prevent cycling so that at low demand it takes some of the output water and returns it back to the input (kind of like a 'wastegate'.) This way, although the pump does come on sooner than with the factory system, it doesn't cycle on and of very much at all. I've only had this system in place a few weeks but so far am completely satisfied and actually prefer it to the old system.
Best,
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Re: [Amel] RE: Watertight, my foot!
Where is located the drain valve for the chain locker? When do you close or open it? Thanks stefano N'EVEREST sm185
Il giorno 25/ott/2013, alle ore 20:28, < seafeverofcuan@...> ha scritto:
Greg, If you own a Super Maramu? that can't happen without the water coming out of the bow thruster housing and first soaking the bedding leaving a trail and you would have a serious inflow if the problem was with bow thruster seals failing. Another potential source is if the drain valve for your chain locker is closed but most unlikely. The most likely source of flooding the bilge locker on a SM is the dish washer outflow pipe coming out of the waste pipe then you will get a couple of inches in all the bilge lockers. Post your boat Model and some of the real experts on this site will give you the answer straight away. Amels are designed to deflect approximately ten degrees with the front or rear cabins flooded and the sea tight doors properly secured and fastened. Regards, Trevor SM 425 Ireland
---In amelyachtowners@..., wrote: Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster?Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage. Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?
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Greg, If you own a Super Maramu? that can't happen without the water coming out of the bow thruster housing and first soaking the bedding leaving a trail and you would have a serious inflow if the problem was with bow thruster seals failing. Another potential source is if the drain valve for your chain locker is closed but most unlikely. The most likely source of flooding the bilge locker on a SM is the dish washer outflow pipe coming out of the waste pipe then you will get a couple of inches in all the bilge lockers. Post your boat Model and some of the real experts on this site will give you the answer straight away. Amels are designed to deflect approximately ten degrees with the front or rear cabins flooded and the sea tight doors properly secured and fastened. Regards, Trevor SM 425 Ireland
---In amelyachtowners@..., <gegcarter@...> wrote: Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster?Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage. Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?
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Re: [Amel] mattress quality
Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
For general information, on my last boat, we had cushion covers made from microfiber cloth. Cotton of course.
Easy to wash, dry instantly.
Just an idea.
Jean-Pierre
Hi In Australia we went to an upholstery supplier and made our matresses out of 3 layers of foam. with closed cell foam as the base,and memory foam as the top layer.
We also removed the Amel cotton base of the cushions and replaced with nylon open mesh fabric, thus allowing the mattress to breath, We were advised to sit on washable bathtowels towels in the saloon in the tropics to reduce damage from sweat and suncream. hope this helps Cris and Mike S/v Akwaaba santorin sloop
---In amelyachtowners@..., < amelyachtowners@...> wrote: does anybody know what kind of foam (material, quality, strength) amel used for the mattress in the sm or santorin? we could not find such a soft foam material in the shop.
thanks, herbert
santorin 120, kali mera
Jean-Pierre Germain, Chief Pilot, Cozuro Limited, +44 7551 211 511 jp.germain@...jgermain@...
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Hi In Australia we went to an upholstery supplier and made our matresses out of 3 layers of foam. with closed cell foam as the base,and memory foam as the top layer.
We also removed the Amel cotton base of the cushions and replaced with nylon open mesh fabric, thus allowing the mattress to breath, We were advised to sit on washable bathtowels towels in the saloon in the tropics to reduce damage from sweat and suncream. hope this helps Cris and Mike S/v Akwaaba santorin sloop
---In amelyachtowners@..., <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: does anybody know what kind of foam (material, quality, strength) amel used for the mattress in the sm or santorin? we could not find such a soft foam material in the shop.
thanks, herbert
santorin 120, kali mera
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Re: [Amel] Watertight, my foot!
Serge Tremblay <laetitiaii@...>
Geg, Close the valves Under the floorboard specially installed by the yard for this purpose, if a previous owner has not maintained same or if you have not... then replace them. BTW, I have found a inexpensive way to replace the foams on the bow thruster, i use toilet bowl foam seals that can be purchased from many sanitary plumbing stores... works fine for me, althought you may have to seek the help of the store (who can order a special size) or of a plumber to find the right size (mainly thickness) and deal with the issue that some foam seals have a contact glue on both
sides. Serge, V Opera, Mango 51 Le vendredi 25 octobre 2013 8h16, Richard03801 a écrit :
Hi after having a number of Amel yachts of various models it would appear that in some manner or means then hose leading to the bilge has been compromised or some has modified the headed. Second you may need to check the seals on the bow thruster. It is assumed you run the boat with the pin in. Smooth sailing Regards Richard Piller
Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster? Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage. Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?
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Re: [Amel] Watertight, my foot!
Kent Robertson
Look in the files section for excellent instructions on servicing the bow thruster. When the seals are properly installed, the bow thruster should be water tight. It's important to pin the thruster in the up position and that the seals are tightly compressed. You can tighten the cable some by the connector at the end by the motor. There is also a way to adjust the stop height (where the raise/lower motor stops automatically) at the worm drive itself. Many of us have installed an alarm in the bilge in front of the forward head (on SMs). I think most of us change the seals and service the thruster every time we haul out. I would also service the CDrive lower unit at every haul out. Kent SM243 Kristy Brunswick GA USA
On Oct 25, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Richard03801 < richard03801@...> wrote:
Hi after having a number of Amel yachts of various models it would appear that in some manner or means then hose leading to the bilge has been compromised or some has modified the headed. Second you may need to check the seals on the bow thruster. It is assumed you run the boat with the pin in. Smooth sailing Regards Richard Piller
Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster? Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage. Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?
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Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
By the way what model Amel do you have. Regards Richard Piller
On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:14, < gegcarter@...> wrote:
Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster? Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage. Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?
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Re: [Amel] Watertight, my foot!
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Hi after having a number of Amel yachts of various models it would appear that in some manner or means then hose leading to the bilge has been compromised or some has modified the headed. Second you may need to check the seals on the bow thruster. It is assumed you run the boat with the pin in. Smooth sailing Regards Richard Piller
On Oct 25, 2013, at 5:14, < gegcarter@...> wrote:
Has anyone else had to test how watertight their front cabin was as water came in at first unnoticed via the bow thruster? Apparently the water entered continued it's way into the saloon (we were heeling to port, on starboard tack) via the housings for the seawater pipes for toilet, chain washer and clim. Flooding our under the floorboards storage. Are we missing something there or watertight compartment means something else in French?
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Hi Attilio and Maria,
do you have some more photos from your davits? Do you have construction plans? Are you satisfied with the solution? We are thinking of equipping our santorin with davits, too.
thanks,
herbert
santorin #120, kali mera
---In amelyachtowners@..., <attilio.siviero@...> wrote: Hi all, finally here is (in Photos section, Album Sisila) what we didi to extend the passerella, due to increased dimensions of dinghies nowadays. I did not want to add steps to the original passerella, for the considerable amount of welding work to be done, and also because we use the passerella as bath ladder, and it is heavy enough. So when we go back to the mooring, and we have the dinghy, we stay far enough from the pontoon and we put the dinghy on water, releasing the right boomerang davit, we install the passerella as usual, linked to the spectra rope coming from the mizzen mast, and also linked to the right davit: this way the passerella is far more stable. Also, since sometimes the passerella has a gap from the pontoon, and it could be a problem for somebody, when this is the case we install a simple aluminum plate extension, hinged to the end of the passerella, with minimal modification to the passerella, a couple of metal eyes. If we can easily jump across the gap, we leave the extension in the lazarette. In case of bad weather and waves, to avoid night noises, we can lift the extension with a strop linked to the same davit. This is a suggestion if somebody has the same problem we had with the passerella and boomerang davits. Fair winds Attilio&Maria Santorin #84 "Sisila" ---In amelyachtowners@..., <amelyachtowners@...> wrote: Hello Attilio and Maria,
Yes I could send a pic after my next trip to Sicily but there is not much
point as it would look just like the original and you would have to count
the steps to know. However please let me know if you think it would help.
best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319
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From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:16 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
Hi John,
since we have all the winter time now in the Med to extend the passerelle, I
think that soon or later you will be in Sicily again, thus that time please
could you take a shot and post it?
Thanks a lot
Attilio & Maria Siviero
Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 16:01, Io < cptbiffi@...> ha scritto:
> Thanks very much for info stefano
>
> Il giorno 19/set/2012, alle ore 15:32, "Anne and John Hollamby"
> <annejohnholl@...> ha scritto:
>
> > Hello Stefano, Sorry, no I have not posted any pics and now cannot do so
> > as we are in Malta and the boat is in Marina di Ragusa, Sicily.
> > However there is nothing complicated about it. I just took the
> > passerelle to a workshop dealing in aluminium welding and told them what
> > I wanted, i.e. a two step extension put into the centre maintaining the
> > curved profile. I think that they may have inserted some short aluminium
> > rods or pipes inside the tubes to add strength The original steps were
> > put into the new centre steps and I made new ones to go at the top of
> > the ladder so that they do not go in the water when in use.
> > I hope this helps.
> > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM2K 319
> >
> > From: stefano biffi
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:22 PM
> > To: amelyachtowners@...
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > hi john did you post any picture of your smart/longer passerelle? I
> > tried to find in the web,no bingo done. thanks
> > stefano
> >
> > N'EVEREST
> > SM185 in Bocca di Magra
> >
> > ________________________________
> > Da: Anne and John Hollamby <mailto:annejohnholl%40gmail.com>
> > A: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Inviato: Domenica 16 Settembre 2012 12:19
> > Oggetto: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer passerelle/gangplank
> >
> > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > Thanks for your message. One thing I forgot to mention was that we made
> > a
> > new board to fit the longer passarelle. It is marine ply and to make it
> > long
> > enough we added another piece attached with brass hinges on the
> > underside
> > and fixed with countersunk machine screws and and nuts. Thus it folds
> > back
> > and opens up when fitted in place so it is slotted in at both ends. It
> > is
> > made non slip with two strips of white non slip adhesive tape running
> > the
> > full length We have an elastic line to hook over the board as the first
> > one
> > we made blew away one night never to be seen again.
> >
> > Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM319
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 6:06 PM
> > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > Cc: Buttignol ssa
> > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits and longer gangplank
> >
> > Hello, Anne and John, extremely grateful for the help and the very
> > accurate
> > explanation.
> >
> > The matter to extend the passerella (gangplank) was already in my mind.
> > Also
> > the matter to use dyneema and a spacer, that I already got.
> >
> > Also useful the suggestion to use the red line to hoist dinghy+motor,
> > but
> > normally we hoist the motor by a separate small davit on stern starboard
> > side. We have a 2.7m Honda dinghy and a 5hp 4-strokes Honda motor, some
> > 30kg
> > weight.
> >
> > Thanks a lot again, fair winds
> >
> > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
> >
> > Il giorno 15/set/2012, alle ore 15:06, Anne and John Hollamby
> > <mailto:annejohnholl%40gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > > Hello Attilio and Maria,
> > > The gangplank is not really long enough for mooring stern-to possibly
> > > because it was not updated when the tube size on inflatables was
> > > increased
> > > in the late eighties/nineties. The owner of SM Galaxie increased the
> > > length
> > > by two steps and I copied him. It is supported by what we call the red
> > > line
> > > which is the one attached to the mizzen mast at the spreader on a
> > > block.
> > > The
> > > red line is dyneema and 8mm which is more than strong enough. The red
> > > line
> > > is attached to a spacer so that there are two lines going down to the
> > > end
> > > of
> > > the gangplank via a piece of wood to open the gap between them. These
> > > attach
> > > to the gangplank on U-bolts a piece of teak which is wider than the
> > > plank
> > > and secured with saddle clips.
> > > Our dinghy is a Honwav 30 and weighs 45 kg and this is secured to our
> > > davits
> > > on 4 part blocks with a jam cleat welded on to the davit. The davit
> > > itself
> > > is supported on 6 part tackles on blocks with jam cleats on the deck.
> > > It
> > > is
> > > hard to hoist the dinghy on these but it becomes impossible if we want
> > > to
> > > hoist it with a 15 HP 2 stroke motor in place. However it is lifted
> > > with
> > > great ease by by using the two red lines from the gangplank and
> > > shackling
> > > them on to the ends of the davits which are then lowered right down to
> > > the
> > > the blocks on the tackle and then lifting everything on the red line
> > > either
> > > by winding it up by hand on the mizzen outhaul winch or, as I am in my
> > > eighties, on the main sheet winch.
> > > We also use the mainsheet winch to hoist the dinghy on the red line so
> > > that
> > > we can clean the dinghy or let it down on the aft cabin top for longer
> > > passages or over wintering. We hope this helps!
> > >
> > > Best wishes, Anne and John, Bali
> > > Hai, SM2K 319
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 5:47 AM
> > > To: mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Amel] boomerang davits
> > >
> > > Thanks Richard, not useful but encouraging ;-)
> > >
> > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila" in Monfalcone IT
> > >
> > > Il giorno 11/set/2012, alle ore 20:34, Richard03801
> > > <mailto:richard03801%40yahoo.com>
> > > ha scritto:
> > >
> > > > We have those on our SM with 4:1 blocks thay work very well
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > >
> > > > Richard Piller
> > > >
> > > > Cell 603 767 5330
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 10, 2012, at 12:47, Attilio Siviero YAHOO
> > > > <mailto:attilio.siviero%40yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am just thinking to fit on my Santorin a couple of davits
> > > > > similar to
> > > > > the ones made by a workshop in La Rochelle, and called Boomerang.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have seen several SMs with those davits, and I know that also
> > > > > some
> > > > > Santorins has been fitted with same davits, obviously adapted to
> > > > > the
> > > > > different size of the stern.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I would like to know for a 2.7m tender (Honda) which tackles
> > > > > (with
> > > > > triple blocks: we are getting old...) are normally used for these
> > > > > davits? I think that a tackle with blocks of 45mm dia, and 10mm
> > > > > rope
> > > > > (working load of the blocks 450kg) should be sufficient.
> > > > > Naturally,
> > > > > one
> > > > > triple block should be with cam-cleat.
> > > > >
> > > > > And how long is the tackle completely closed. This is to position
> > > > > correctly the holding shackle.
> > > > >
> > > > > If anybody with a SM or a Santorin has these davits, maybe he can
> > > > > give
> > > > > me this info/opinion?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for an answer
> > > > >
> > > > > Attilio & Maria Siviero
> > > > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
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> > > Amel Santorin#84 "Sisila"
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