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Re: [Amel] Fresh Water Pump
ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
Hi Ian, I am not on the boat till next week so can't answer your question at the moment. We now only have the separate expansion tank which sits outboard of the Onan. The pump is noisier than the Amel original but not unduly so and I could easily reduce the noise by putting a rubber layer under the feet.
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I spoke to Jabsco about their pump which needs no expansion tank and they told me that they were on the point of improving its performance and to wait another year before buying one. This was a couple of years ago. I haven't followed it up because we are very happy with the Jabsco which we bought.40 psi gives a wonderful shower, even better than the Amel unit which was very good itself. Incidentally, we also fitted the bayonet deck fitting for our anchor wash and at the same time switched to a Jabsco wash down pump for that purpose after the original Amel anchor wash pump and delivery point was overwhelmed by Brasilian mud. Big improvement having a short length of hose and a hand gun fitting. Cheers, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Malta
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Bad odours coming from the A/C
luvkante
Hi everybody,
Whenever we leave our boat for a couple of days, the A/C creates nasty odours. I assume, that this is because the cooling water hoses are not gas tight. The A/C smell in the owners cabin is the worst. Does anybody have experience in resolving this issue? Your support is highly appreciated. Martin Amel 54 "Chiara" #149
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[Amel] Re: An Automatic Anchor Wash
ullaroo
Hi Ian,
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Thanks for the information. Forward looking sonar is high on my new equipment list. But mainly for obvious reasons like navigation among coral reefs and entering shallow anchorages that you mentioned already. I've never thought that it can be useful to monitor your anchor and chain. Fair winds, Üllar
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Re: [Amel] Re: An Automatic Anchor Wash
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Hello Ian,
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I can't wait to try!!! This sounds so exciting! I was wondering how to retreive their anchor shorthanded! I have only received my boat 5 months ago, but I am amazed of what I have been learning through the forum as well as friends/neighbor, previous owner, between checking the Air conditionning capacitators, making my own gasket, and so on. A never ending learning experience which I really enjoy. Alexandre SM2K NIKIMAT Seabrook, Texas, USA --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/6/13, Ian Shepherd <sv_freespirit@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: An Automatic Anchor Wash To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 10:19 AM Hello Üllar, I have an Interphase Probe forward looking sonar with the display mounted on the instrument panel between the boat speed and wind angle indicators. This was possible as I specified this layout before the boat was built. The sonar shows the chain very clearly if you select the shallowest range (6M) and adjust the gain in manual mode to about 13. The display shows the chain and its vertical angle relative to the boat which is most useful when moving forwards to eliminate unnecessary stress on the windlass. An over run is also clearly shown. The anchor itself shows clearly which is useful when the chain counter shows 3-4 metres more to go than it actually the case! However it only works if the bow is aligned with the chain, so you need to be good at following the path of the chain to have a continuous picture throughout anchor retrieval. It can be an interesting game knowing which way to turn! By the way I was told a lot of nonsense by Pochon that the Probe was useless at seeing the seabed in front of you at anything faster than 3.5 knots. This might be the case if you set the gain to automatic, which I never do. If the gain is adjusted manually I can see a clear picture even at 8 knots. It's been a very useful tool and has enabled me to tuck into shallow anchorages, chose a flat spot to drop the anchor, differentiate between rocks and sand/mud, creep over reefs and avoid groundings. I hope this helps. Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader Myrina Limnos Greece On 06/08/2013 07:54, ullaroo wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > Your solution is very intriguing from shorthanders point of view. Can > you give more detail about your anchoring equipment? What type of > sonar? How clear is chain on sonar picture? > > Regards, > Üllar > > --- In amelyachtowners@... > <mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>, Ian Shepherd > <sv_freespirit@...> wrote: > > > > Hi Kent, > > > > at least I am not the only one to have the problem. Whilst Stateside I > > bought a very neat through deck fitting called 'Washdown'. Yes you have > > to drill a hole through the foredeck, but at least you can wash that > > area down with the lockers shut tight. I too have a garden hose and > > spray nozzle that fits into the bayonet deck fitting. As I prefer to > > weigh the anchor from the cockpit watching the chain angle on my > forward > > looking sonar, leaning over the bow and washing the chain by hand > before > > it reaches the roller is not an option as I am mostly single handed. > > > > Regards > > > > Ian SM 414 Crusader Limnos Greece > >
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Re: [Amel] Re: An Automatic Anchor Wash
Ian Shepherd
Hello Üllar,
I have an Interphase Probe forward looking sonar with the display mounted on the instrument panel between the boat speed and wind angle indicators. This was possible as I specified this layout before the boat was built. The sonar shows the chain very clearly if you select the shallowest range (6M) and adjust the gain in manual mode to about 13. The display shows the chain and its vertical angle relative to the boat which is most useful when moving forwards to eliminate unnecessary stress on the windlass. An over run is also clearly shown. The anchor itself shows clearly which is useful when the chain counter shows 3-4 metres more to go than it actually the case! However it only works if the bow is aligned with the chain, so you need to be good at following the path of the chain to have a continuous picture throughout anchor retrieval. It can be an interesting game knowing which way to turn! By the way I was told a lot of nonsense by Pochon that the Probe was useless at seeing the seabed in front of you at anything faster than 3.5 knots. This might be the case if you set the gain to automatic, which I never do. If the gain is adjusted manually I can see a clear picture even at 8 knots. It's been a very useful tool and has enabled me to tuck into shallow anchorages, chose a flat spot to drop the anchor, differentiate between rocks and sand/mud, creep over reefs and avoid groundings. I hope this helps. Ian Shepherd SM 414 Crusader Myrina Limnos Greece On 06/08/2013 07:54, ullaroo wrote:
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Re: [Amel] routing cable for outhaul motor
Alexandre Uster von Baar
Good morning Hans,
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This is not exactly what you want, but should help, on the last picture of the link, you can see the messenger line. Let me know if you can see the link: http://nikimat.com/outhaul_motor_rebuild.html Sincerely, Alexandre --------------------------------------------
On Tue, 8/6/13, Hans-Joachim <Dr.Hofschulte@...> wrote:
Subject: [Amel] routing cable for outhaul motor To: amelyachtowners@... Date: Tuesday, August 6, 2013, 2:58 AM Hi all, could anybody send me one photo or more of the backside of the mast under the boom, so that I can see the routing of the cable for the outhaul motor . The preowner of my boat changed something and I want to make it original. dr.hofschulte at t-online.de many thanks in advance Hans-Joachim Johanna-Amalthea SM 2000 #436 Santa Cruz De Tenerife
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Re: [Amel] Fresh Water Pump
Ian Shepherd
Hi Ian,
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I have been researching Jabsco pumps but there are so many to choose from. If it's not to much trouble could you please confirm that you have the ParMax 3.5' Part Number 32600-0094 priced at £106.40 plus VAT? Also, did you retain the accumulator tank? If not, is the output smooth enough? I see that Jabsco also do a range of constant output pumps, though at a price. These may be more power consuming and use more water I guess. Regards Ian SM 2K 414 Crusader Limnos Island Greece
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routing cable for outhaul motor
dr_hofschulte
Hi all,
could anybody send me one photo or more of the backside of the mast under the boom, so that I can see the routing of the cable for the outhaul motor . The preowner of my boat changed something and I want to make it original. dr.hofschulte at t-online.de many thanks in advance Hans-Joachim Johanna-Amalthea SM 2000 #436 Santa Cruz De Tenerife
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Re: An Automatic Anchor Wash
ullaroo
Hi Ian,
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Your solution is very intriguing from shorthanders point of view. Can you give more detail about your anchoring equipment? What type of sonar? How clear is chain on sonar picture? Regards, Üllar
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Re: [Amel] An Automatic Anchor Wash
Ian Shepherd
Hi Kent,
at least I am not the only one to have the problem. Whilst Stateside I bought a very neat through deck fitting called 'Washdown'. Yes you have to drill a hole through the foredeck, but at least you can wash that area down with the lockers shut tight. I too have a garden hose and spray nozzle that fits into the bayonet deck fitting. As I prefer to weigh the anchor from the cockpit watching the chain angle on my forward looking sonar, leaning over the bow and washing the chain by hand before it reaches the roller is not an option as I am mostly single handed. Regards Ian SM 414 Crusader Limnos Greece The Deck Fitting: http://www.marinemegastore.com/product-DECK-WASH-DOWN-FITTING-BSP-CONNECTOR-AQU_Q06830.htm On 05/08/2013 00:20, Kent Robertson wrote:
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Re: [Amel] An Automatic Anchor Wash
I have spliced a hose into the line in the port bow locker going from the pump to the anchor wash nozzle with a Y connector and two valves (cheap garden hose fittings). A 10 ft piece of of hose is plenty to reach around the bow pulpit and wash the chain before it comes aboard. Before that modification, I found that the anchor wash usually left mud and other nasty stuff on the chain which ended up on the deck and in the chain locker. Now my chain is clean when it gets to the boat.
Kent SM243 KRISTY Brunswick GA USA On Aug 4, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Ian Shepherd <sv_freespirit@...> wrote: I would expect that we have all at some time forgotten to switch off the [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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An Automatic Anchor Wash
Ian Shepherd
I would expect that we have all at some time forgotten to switch off the anchor wash pump. Not a big deal if you have the original design apart from wasted battery power. However if you have converted your system to freshwater as I have, it could seriously deplete your water supply. I once wasted over 600 litres of fresh water when I got distracted and forgot to switch the pump off. I have found a neat way to prevent this happening. The anchor wash and the red light now work automatically (with the anchor wash switch in the off position) whenever the toggle switch is moved to the up position or the up button on the windlass is pressed. You can now be sure that whenever you pause weighing the anchor or let go of the switch/ button the water will cease to flow. The on off switch still functions normally which is necessary for me as I have a Y valve in the forward port side locker so that water can be fed to a through deck bayonet fitting to which I can attach a deck cleaning hose.
The mod is very simple. All you need is a 24V auto-mobile type single pole relay. Mine cost 3.5 Euros. Connect one side of the coil to the forward lower terminal on the anchor up/down switch in the cockpit. Connect the other side of the coil to any ground connection on the 24V panel. Connect the other two contacts (Common and Normally open) to each side of the anchor wash switch. It does not matter which way round. Secure the relay in position with a cable tie around some wiring loom. That's it. I still think that the wash is inefficient in its use of water. A spray pattern angled across the chain would be better, especially when the chain is off to one side when the water can mostly miss the chain altogether. Sealpump.com is a company that specializes in all sorts of spray nozzles. Below is the link to one that might suit the Amel. Regards Ian Shepherd Sm 414 Crusader Thassos http://www.sealpump.com/datasheets/Full%20Cone%20Nozzle.pdf
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Re: [Amel] Re: Fresh Water Pump
Ian Shepherd
Hi Bob,
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thanks for the suggestion. I did take it apart but it is clean. What you say is true though. I had that experience on my first boat. If I can find a new Square D I will replace it, which I normally have to do every two years or so. Regards Ian SM 414 Crusader Thassos
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Re: [Amel] Fresh Water Pump
Ian Shepherd
Hi Bill,
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good to hear from you and I hope you are getting ready to depart. I was about to shoot you an email about various mods which I will do shortly. Back to the pressure switch. You are right. They are finicky. I have dismantled it and there was no dirt inside, which is what I would have expected as the Square D is only a year old and I have never put tap water in the tank. All water for the past 13 years has been RO and should be particle free. Your adjustment method tallies with mine. The second nut is slackened right off so there is no spring tension at all. The pump still tries to reach 2.8 Bar (42 psi) which is odd as out of the box it cuts out at 2.4 Bar. What I have not done is check the accumulator pressure. I will measure it tomorrow. I am leaning towards an end of season change of pump to eliminate the accumulator, the external pressure switch and the rather poor way in which the pressure switch is threaded into the manifold pipe without an adequate boss which is prone to leaking and requires pipe and wiring to be removed in order to wrap yet more PTFE tape around it. Cheers to you and Judy Ian SM 414 2003 Crusader
On 30/07/2013 13:15, Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Fresh Water Pump
Ian Shepherd
Sounds a good idea Richard. I have been through 4 pressure stats and
two accumulators, the latter costing as much as a new pump! Cheers Ian SM 414 Crusader On 30/07/2013 10:16, Richard Piller wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Re: Fresh Water Pump
Ian Shepherd
Thanks for his Trevor. I will bear this in mind when I make a
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replacement. I have a Whale Urchin in the dinghy. Great pump that has lasted 13 years until last week when the diaphragm eventually sprang a leak. I will replace it as the cost is just twice that of the diaphragm alone. Regards Ian Crusader SM 414 - Thassos
On 30/07/2013 09:15, seafeverofcuan wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Autoprop Grease Type
kimberlite@...
There is a grease recommended by the autoprop agent in the us.
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i am not on the boat but it is a waterproof wheel bearing grease, available from NAPA in a purple tube. or call autoptop and ask they also have the grease. eric kimberlite sm376
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From: captain_cucumber_head Date: Saturday, August 3, 2013 9:17 am Subject: [Amel] Autoprop Grease Type To: amelyachtowners@... I want to lube my autoprop. The instructions call for "good
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Re: [Amel] Northern Chesapeake Bay
Jason,
Welcome to the Chesapeake. I echo Pat's comments. For us the northern part of the Bay is somewhat limited by depth. We kept Aletes at Georgetown for 6 years about 1 hour up the Sassafras River from where Pat is moored. Plenty of anchorages and pleasant shoreline. Still Pond is a favored overnight anchorage, just off the bay. Middle river on the western shore offers depth and access to restaurants. We are now at North Point Marina in Rock Hall. Again easy access to the Bay but be careful at low tide and don't proceed past North Point. Rock Hall has a lot to offer. South of Rock Hall, as Pat said, there are endless cruising grounds. Let us know your itinerary and maybe we catch you at North Point. Mike From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of jdernehl@... Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 9:29 AM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: [Amel] Northern Chesapeake Bay I know there are a few AMEL owners in the Chesapeake. I am looking for short 3 day weekend cruise ideas in the Northern Ches Bay(North of Baltimore). Good places to anchor, tie up, etc... Are there any good towns, restaurants, marinas? I am moored up in the C&D, So Places like Annapolis are ok, but I am thinking of anything closer. Thanks for any suggestions. Jason Pao San #88
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Re: [Amel] Northern Chesapeake Bay
Patrick McAneny
Jason, I live on the Sassafras River, about seven miles from the C&D. My
boat a SM is on a mooring four miles up the river from the bay ,across from Ordinary Point. The Sassafras has several beautiful and protected places to anchor with high bluffs. There is three marinas eight miles up the river in Georgetown with a couple good restaurants. Heading south of the Sassafras on the eastern shore there is anchorages at Still Pond , Worton Creek, Fairlee Creek and then Swan Creek in Rock Hall which has several marinas and restaurants. If you have never cruised on the Cheasapeake you will never lack for well protected anchorages there are thousands to chose from. I have probably sailed better than 10,000 or more miles on the Bay over the last 40 years and have yet to see all the Bay has to offer.If you are still here in Oct. the Annapolis Boat show is fun . We sail down and do the show a couple days and then cruise the Bay about ten days every fall. Drop a hook near my boat and we will dinghy out and say Hi! Hope to see Ya, Pat& Diane Shenanigans
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Northern Chesapeake Bay
jdernehl@ymail.com <jdernehl@...>
I know there are a few AMEL owners in the Chesapeake. I am looking for short 3 day weekend cruise ideas in the Northern Ches Bay(North of Baltimore). Good places to anchor, tie up, etc... Are there any good towns, restaurants, marinas? I am moored up in the C&D, So Places like Annapolis are ok, but I am thinking of anything closer.
Thanks for any suggestions. Jason Pao San #88
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