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Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K

BM2 <bluemarinemartin@...>
 

Bonjour John,

I will try to do it that way as soon as I can get a new valve, hoping that mine will come out as easily as yours...dismounting is very often far more difficult than installing a new gear.

Best wishes

Yves

BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2010-04-13
----- Message reçu -----
De : Anne and John Hollamby
À : amelyachtowners
Date : 2010-04-13, 10:33:55
Sujet : Re: Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K


Hello Yves,
I think I understand ! But you have to unscew the whole valve complete and replace it with a new one.
That is what I did a few years ago. It was pretty easy once I got the hose off. The central part of the valve is not removable so far as I know so the whole unit has to be sent to be recycled if you want to get full brownie points.

Best wishes, John, SM 319

----- Original Message -----
From: BM2
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K



Bonjour Anne and John,

And thank you for your help.

I am not so strong but the shaft has very little material: OD 9 mm threaded, a hole inside of 3 mm. and a cut of 1.5 mm each side for the handle leaving only a maximum of 3 working mm of material where it broke.

I usually wash the tank, while closed, with fresh water and vinegar from the vent on deck...but it nevertheless happened to break !!

I understand how to remove the hose, but...

The problem I am facing is to remove (unscrew) the valve without breaking the seacock.

How can I seize the seacock to avoid distroying it while removing the valve itself ??
The seacock seems to be moulded in the plastic of the hull, without any thing beyond the moulding inside the boat in order to block it, , while unscewing the valve . A bit difficult to explain clearly with my limited English, but I hope you can grasp the point !!

Many Thanks and best wishes to both of you

Yves


BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2010-04-13
----- Message reçu -----
De : Anne and John Hollamby
À : amelyachtowners
Date : 2010-04-12, 10:13:14
Sujet : Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K

Dear Yves and Marie Christine,
The same valve seized up years ago on my boat and I had to replace it even though I was not so strong as to be able to break the shaft. To replace the valve remove the shelf and the plastic pipe from the holding tank. You will find that it is best to make a vertical slash in it where it is stuck onto the tank and the valve with a razor knife. You will then be able to remove the damaged valve and fit a new one using proper sanitary hose.
It was not my favourite job especially as one inevitably gets on intimate terms with the WC pan !
I suppose that whilst the tube is open you should feel the inside to see whether you should do a descaling job as described by S/V Bebe in the archives.

Best wishes from Anne and John

----- Original Message -----
From: BM2
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:30 PM
Subject: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K

Hello everybody,

I have a problem with the fore heads valve because I closed it for a very short time and when I wanted to reopen it, the handle shaft broke with the valve closed...although I operate it from time to time.

Fortunately, with a lot of efforts, I managed to open it with a Ezy-out left turn screw extractor.

Now I have to change it....without damaging the seacock., which does not seem to be easy !!

Although I cannot immagine I am the first one with this problem, I could not find a word about it on the forum, even with the search fuction, John,

Has anyone faced this problem?

All advices welcome

Regards

Yves

BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2009-12-11




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Super Maramu Sea Chest and Salt Water Distribution Mainfold - cleaning and sizes

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

All,

I just finished cleaning the Sea Chest and all of its connecting lines as well as the salt water manifold. During the process I measured the lines and documented the process with photos.

You can view the results at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/amelyachtowners/photos/album/1208267126/pic/list?order=ordinal

It may be easier to change the "View" to "Original" or "Large" when viewing.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Malaysia


Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Yves,
I think I understand ! But you have to unscew the whole valve complete and replace it with a new one.
That is what I did a few years ago. It was pretty easy once I got the hose off. The central part of the valve is not removable so far as I know so the whole unit has to be sent to be recycled if you want to get full brownie points.

Best wishes, John, SM 319

----- Original Message -----
From: BM2
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K



Bonjour Anne and John,

And thank you for your help.

I am not so strong but the shaft has very little material: OD 9 mm threaded, a hole inside of 3 mm. and a cut of 1.5 mm each side for the handle leaving only a maximum of 3 working mm of material where it broke.

I usually wash the tank, while closed, with fresh water and vinegar from the vent on deck...but it nevertheless happened to break !!

I understand how to remove the hose, but...

The problem I am facing is to remove (unscrew) the valve without breaking the seacock.

How can I seize the seacock to avoid distroying it while removing the valve itself ??
The seacock seems to be moulded in the plastic of the hull, without any thing beyond the moulding inside the boat in order to block it, , while unscewing the valve . A bit difficult to explain clearly with my limited English, but I hope you can grasp the point !!

Many Thanks and best wishes to both of you

Yves


BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2010-04-13
----- Message reçu -----
De : Anne and John Hollamby
À : amelyachtowners
Date : 2010-04-12, 10:13:14
Sujet : Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K

Dear Yves and Marie Christine,
The same valve seized up years ago on my boat and I had to replace it even though I was not so strong as to be able to break the shaft. To replace the valve remove the shelf and the plastic pipe from the holding tank. You will find that it is best to make a vertical slash in it where it is stuck onto the tank and the valve with a razor knife. You will then be able to remove the damaged valve and fit a new one using proper sanitary hose.
It was not my favourite job especially as one inevitably gets on intimate terms with the WC pan !
I suppose that whilst the tube is open you should feel the inside to see whether you should do a descaling job as described by S/V Bebe in the archives.

Best wishes from Anne and John

----- Original Message -----
From: BM2
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:30 PM
Subject: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K

Hello everybody,

I have a problem with the fore heads valve because I closed it for a very short time and when I wanted to reopen it, the handle shaft broke with the valve closed...although I operate it from time to time.

Fortunately, with a lot of efforts, I managed to open it with a Ezy-out left turn screw extractor.

Now I have to change it....without damaging the seacock., which does not seem to be easy !!

Although I cannot immagine I am the first one with this problem, I could not find a word about it on the forum, even with the search fuction, John,

Has anyone faced this problem?

All advices welcome

Regards

Yves

BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2009-12-11

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Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K

BM2 <bluemarinemartin@...>
 

Bonjour Anne and John,

And thank you for your help.

I am not so strong but the shaft has very little material: OD 9 mm threaded, a hole inside of 3 mm. and a cut of 1.5 mm each side for the handle leaving only a maximum of 3 working mm of material where it broke.

I usually wash the tank, while closed, with fresh water and vinegar from the vent on deck...but it nevertheless happened to break !!

I understand how to remove the hose, but...

The problem I am facing is to remove (unscrew) the valve without breaking the seacock.

How can I seize the seacock to avoid distroying it while removing the valve itself ??
The seacock seems to be moulded in the plastic of the hull, without any thing beyond the moulding inside the boat in order to block it, , while unscewing the valve . A bit difficult to explain clearly with my limited English, but I hope you can grasp the point !!

Many Thanks and best wishes to both of you

Yves


BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2010-04-13
----- Message reçu -----
De : Anne and John Hollamby
À : amelyachtowners
Date : 2010-04-12, 10:13:14
Sujet : Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K


Dear Yves and Marie Christine,
The same valve seized up years ago on my boat and I had to replace it even though I was not so strong as to be able to break the shaft. To replace the valve remove the shelf and the plastic pipe from the holding tank. You will find that it is best to make a vertical slash in it where it is stuck onto the tank and the valve with a razor knife. You will then be able to remove the damaged valve and fit a new one using proper sanitary hose.
It was not my favourite job especially as one inevitably gets on intimate terms with the WC pan !
I suppose that whilst the tube is open you should feel the inside to see whether you should do a descaling job as described by S/V Bebe in the archives.

Best wishes from Anne and John

----- Original Message -----
From: BM2
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:30 PM
Subject: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K




Hello everybody,

I have a problem with the fore heads valve because I closed it for a very short time and when I wanted to reopen it, the handle shaft broke with the valve closed...although I operate it from time to time.

Fortunately, with a lot of efforts, I managed to open it with a Ezy-out left turn screw extractor.

Now I have to change it....without damaging the seacock., which does not seem to be easy !!

Although I cannot immagine I am the first one with this problem, I could not find a word about it on the forum, even with the search fuction, John,

Has anyone faced this problem?

All advices welcome

Regards

Yves

BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2009-12-11




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Re: [Amel] Chain Counter

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Pepe,

That email no longer works. Which IFM location did you get this part? I checked the US location and was told, "The IB5076 is no longer available and no direct replacement."

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Iv Pepe <iv_pepe@...> wrote:

HI Bill,
alex.cortes | ifm.com
Pepe Fortuna 223




________________________________
De: svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
Para: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: vie,9 abril, 2010 17:39
Asunto: Re: [Amel] Chain Counter

 


Iv Pepe,

Yahoo automatically strips the email address removing everything after the "@". Can you tell me what follows: "alex.corte@ "

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com, Iv Pepe <iv_pepe@ > wrote:

Hi all,
The chain counter sensor,IB 5076 inductive sensor is Euro 78,- E mail alex.corte@ ..
Hope it helps,
Iv Pepe
Fortuna  SM 223






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Energy Tax Credit - USA only.

eric <ericmeury@...>
 

just thought i would share this as i'm pretty sure it would qualify

Regarding the Residential Energy Credits. I do believe that if your living on your boat full time as your primary residence can count the following

Qualified Solor Electirc Property
Qualified Solar water heating
Qualified Small wind energy property costs

" A home is where you lived in 2009 and can included a house, houseboat, mobile home, ....

i remember 10 years ago asking my tax professor if the boat loan interest can count as mortgage interest and he said yes as long as the sailboat had a head a place to cook and a place to sleep.

btw the form also says you can take a "credit of 30% of your costs of qualified solor electric propery, solor water heating property, small wind energy property....."

Form is 5695...see the instructions page..


Maramu bow thruster

Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@...>
 

I am in the Med (at the moment near Athens but may go to Tureky later) and am thinking of having a bow thruster installed. 10hp should suffice together with a battery in the forepeak that can be charged with the normal house batteries. Has anyone got any experience where I can get the tube professionally installed and then the bow thruster?

Thanks, Horst Maramu 168, Puddleduck


changed main mast of AMEL 54

sv_seda <no_reply@...>
 

As mentioned some days ago AMEL will change the main mast of the already delivered AMEL 54 and the new ones. I created an album called "changed main mast" with 2 photos of the solution after a main mast crash near the Canaries last year. I hope we can trust this reinforcement. All the best, Markus.


Re: Gulf of Venice & Roccella Ionica

Craig Briggs
 

Ivar,
We were in Roccella Ionica last year - no problem with depth and they were dredging the entrance, which should be done by now. We stayed several days with no charge because they had not "formally" begun operating as a marina. Only water was avaialble at the slip (no electricity). We understand they have now begun regular operations and are charging - rumors were they were quite reasonable but I don't know for sure.
Craig and Katherine Briggs
s/v Sangaris, Santorin #68 in Monfalcone, It.


Re: [Amel] Croatia marinas

Malcolm Phillips <MPhillips@...>
 

Hi Richard,



I have been in several marinas in Croatia and my best
recommendation is Marina Frapa. This is one of the best that
I have used and ,in my opinion is only surpassed by the
Camper and Nicholson marina in Gocek in Turkey. The sheltered
location of Frapa, the lack of any tide and the superb
facilities in the marina encouraged me to winter there in 2008
and I did not regret the choice.



Best regards,



Malcolm



S/M 464 Bon Jovi



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of RJ
Sent: 11 April 2010 15:04
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Croatia marinas





Can anyone suggest a safe place to leave our 54 in Crotia for July
Many thanks. Richard


Re: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Dear Yves and Marie Christine,
The same valve seized up years ago on my boat and I had to replace it even though I was not so strong as to be able to break the shaft. To replace the valve remove the shelf and the plastic pipe from the holding tank. You will find that it is best to make a vertical slash in it where it is stuck onto the tank and the valve with a razor knife. You will then be able to remove the damaged valve and fit a new one using proper sanitary hose.
It was not my favourite job especially as one inevitably gets on intimate terms with the WC pan !
I suppose that whilst the tube is open you should feel the inside to see whether you should do a descaling job as described by S/V Bebe in the archives.

Best wishes from Anne and John

----- Original Message -----
From: BM2
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:30 PM
Subject: [Amel] Heads seacock on SM2K




Hello everybody,

I have a problem with the fore heads valve because I closed it for a very short time and when I wanted to reopen it, the handle shaft broke with the valve closed...although I operate it from time to time.

Fortunately, with a lot of efforts, I managed to open it with a Ezy-out left turn screw extractor.

Now I have to change it....without damaging the seacock., which does not seem to be easy !!

Although I cannot immagine I am the first one with this problem, I could not find a word about it on the forum, even with the search fuction, John,

Has anyone faced this problem?

All advices welcome

Regards

Yves

BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2009-12-11


Re: [Amel] Sail Inventory

amelforme
 

PT FOC is a petite jib, a working jib. GD FOC is a grand jib, a big jib, a
Genoa jib. FOC DE ROUTE is a medium sized storm jib that you will find is
nearly indestructible.

All the best,
Joel F. Potter

Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869
Email: jfpottercys@att.net


Sail Inventory

Bob B. <bobbohn@...>
 

Hi All,

Amel Mango with slab reefing; I'vel got some of the original sails that appear to be in very good condition! I've identified all of my sail inventory except for the following sails stenciled in French:

PT FOG
GD FOG
FOC DE ROUTE

I believe the Foc De Route is a storm jib but will have to hoist the others to identify but current weather won't allow. Any help is very much appreciated!

-Bob


Heads seacock on SM2K

BM2 <bluemarinemartin@...>
 

Hello everybody,

I have a problem with the fore heads valve because I closed it for a very short time and when I wanted to reopen it, the handle shaft broke with the valve closed...although I operate it from time to time.

Fortunately, with a lot of efforts, I managed to open it with a Ezy-out left turn screw extractor.

Now I have to change it....without damaging the seacock., which does not seem to be easy !!

Although I cannot immagine I am the first one with this problem, I could not find a word about it on the forum, even with the search fuction, John,

Has anyone faced this problem?

All advices welcome

Regards

Yves

BM2
bluemarinemartin@gmail.com
2009-12-11


Re: [Amel] Gulf of Venice

Attilio Siviero <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Well, at South of Venice lagoon you can find Albarella (http://www.albarella.it/en/porto/i-prezzi/i-prezzi.html), where you can book. Actually the approach is not very easy, you must do it with daylight, because you are notfar from Po river delta. In  general all lagoon area has depth prblems.
For a rather short time, useful to see Venice, maybe you can go to Compagnia della Vela (for transit fill the form in Italian http://www.compagniadellavela.org/?Pagina=Le Darsene&Lang=_1&id_pagina=2&id_pagina_2=20&id_pagina_3=34).
Inside Venice lagoon you can approach Lega Navale Italiana (near Malamocco mouth, tel/fax +390415289294 or +30041770395), but I fear that a SM can't fit there.
If you are not focused on Venice, you can approach Trieste Gulf,in Monfalcone you have Hannibal Marina (http://www.marinahannibal.com/it/marina/#), whwre you can find or sure a good place on land, at the same prince in water.
Another one is Darsena Nautec (http://www.pagineazzurre.com/english/port/id_fri028-d/info_darsena-nautec.htm), fairly cheap. Also Sangaris a Santorin, is there on ground.
That's all for the moment, but maybe later I can get some more info
Fair  winds (what is your Amel?)
 Maria&Attilio SV Santorin#84"Sisila"




________________________________
Da: ivarmylde <mylde@online.no>
A: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Inviato: Dom 11 aprile 2010, 15:47:50
Oggetto: [Amel] Gulf of Venice

 
Can anybody advice of a good place to lay up the boat during this summer on land in Gulf of Venice,
and hve any of you been in Rocella Ionica last year - hve heared that the harbour hve silted more than before. Last time I was there 2-3 years ago it was OK to enter.

Rgds Ivar







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Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Bow thruster removal

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Martin,
On the 53 there are four allan bolts holding the thruster shaft etc to the motor but this probably does not help if the 54 is different.
I wish you luck with Amel, I have a problem with oil leaking out of the bottom of my thruster and they have not responded to my Emails of 4&8 April although I have told them that my boat is going in next Wednesday.

Hope you do better........John SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: Martin
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Bow thruster removal




Thank you - I had not realized that there was an extended discussion on the subject. After all of this time using the group I should have known that there would be pre-existing experience; one of the great benefits of the group.

The 54 appears to have a very different installation from the SM/SM2k in that the housing is machined from Aluminium and the raising/lowering mechanism is different. The problem issue of the motor seizing to the drive shaft spline however looks horribly familiar.

I will contact AMEL and see what they suggest that is any different for a 54. I suspect that there will be other owners who have an interest in this subject.

Regards,
Martin
Caduceus 54 #56

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Martin,
> There is a good discussion of this problem in the archives. Just search Bow Thruster and you'll find it.
> Good Luck
> Kent
> Kristy
> SM243
>
> --- On Sat, 4/10/10, Martin <yachtcaduceus@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Martin <yachtcaduceus@...>
> Subject: [Amel] Amel 54 Bow thruster removal
> To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 11:31 AM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> Can anyone help please?
>
> The instructions provided by Amel for removing the bow thruster states that you drain the oil and remove the two large bolts holding the drive shaft to the motor base and then take care that the unit does not drop out, ie have someone ready to hold and lower it.
>
> The instructions omit to mention that there are in addition two machine screws with allan key heads that also have to be removed.
>
> Well I have removed the bolts and the machine screws and the bow thruster is still very firmly stuck. There is no movement what so ever.
>
> What is the technique for persuading it to drop out of the housing? The boat is now three years old and I really do wish to replace the neoprene washer/seals whilst it is out of the water.
>
> Regards,
> Martin Bevan
> Amel 54 #56 Caduceus
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>


Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Bow thruster removal

Martin <yachtcaduceus@...>
 

Thank you - I had not realized that there was an extended discussion on the subject. After all of this time using the group I should have known that there would be pre-existing experience; one of the great benefits of the group.

The 54 appears to have a very different installation from the SM/SM2k in that the housing is machined from Aluminium and the raising/lowering mechanism is different. The problem issue of the motor seizing to the drive shaft spline however looks horribly familiar.

I will contact AMEL and see what they suggest that is any different for a 54. I suspect that there will be other owners who have an interest in this subject.

Regards,
Martin
Caduceus 54 #56

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Kent Robertson <karkauai@...> wrote:

Hi, Martin,
There is a good discussion of this problem in the archives.  Just search Bow Thruster and you'll find it.
Good Luck
Kent
Kristy
SM243

--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Martin <yachtcaduceus@...> wrote:


From: Martin <yachtcaduceus@...>
Subject: [Amel] Amel 54 Bow thruster removal
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 11:31 AM


 



Can anyone help please?

The instructions provided by Amel for removing the bow thruster states that you drain the oil and remove the two large bolts holding the drive shaft to the motor base and then take care that the unit does not drop out, ie have someone ready to hold and lower it.

The instructions omit to mention that there are in addition two machine screws with allan key heads that also have to be removed.

Well I have removed the bolts and the machine screws and the bow thruster is still very firmly stuck. There is no movement what so ever.

What is the technique for persuading it to drop out of the housing? The boat is now three years old and I really do wish to replace the neoprene washer/seals whilst it is out of the water.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Amel 54 #56 Caduceus










Re: [Amel] Amel 54 Bow thruster removal

karkauai
 

Hi, Martin,
There is a good discussion of this problem in the archives.  Just search Bow Thruster and you'll find it.
Good Luck
Kent
Kristy
SM243

--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Martin <yachtcaduceus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


From: Martin <yachtcaduceus@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [Amel] Amel 54 Bow thruster removal
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 11:31 AM


 



Can anyone help please?

The instructions provided by Amel for removing the bow thruster states that you drain the oil and remove the two large bolts holding the drive shaft to the motor base and then take care that the unit does not drop out, ie have someone ready to hold and lower it.

The instructions omit to mention that there are in addition two machine screws with allan key heads that also have to be removed.

Well I have removed the bolts and the machine screws and the bow thruster is still very firmly stuck. There is no movement what so ever.

What is the technique for persuading it to drop out of the housing? The boat is now three years old and I really do wish to replace the neoprene washer/seals whilst it is out of the water.

Regards,
Martin Bevan
Amel 54 #56 Caduceus








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Croatia marinas

RJ
 

Can anyone suggest a safe place to leave our 54 in Crotia for July
Many thanks. Richard


Gulf of Venice

ivarmylde <mylde@...>
 

Can anybody advice of a good place to lay up the boat during this summer on land in Gulf of Venice,
and hve any of you been in Rocella Ionica last year - hve heared that the harbour hve silted more than before. Last time I was there 2-3 years ago it was OK to enter.

Rgds Ivar