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Request for help
galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
I am away from my boat (Amel 54 ). I need to buy impellers for the 11kva ONAN and for the D3-110 VOLVO.
Can anyone aboard tell me the parts number for these 2 items. This would be greatly appreciated. JP |
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Re: liquid in battery locker SM243
galacsea2000 <no_reply@...>
I would check the batteries first. Especially if they were plugged in the dock during those 2 months.
Shut down the charger. wait 24 hours. then measure the current, not the voltage by using a big load (all your lights including nav lights and 25w VHF on emission status and see if you experience a meaningful voltage drop. If yes, have your charger checked. |
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Yanmar Starting Problem
Hi again,
I started my Yanmar 4JH4-HTE 110 HP after ~2 months of sitting unused. It cranked up in about 1 second and purred like a kitten for about 5 minutes while I was getting ready to shove off, then died abruptly. First thought was forgot to open the fuel valve, but it was open. When I try to crank it now, it starts up immediately, and respondes to the throttle in neutral as long as the starter is engaged, but as soon as I release the key back to "ON", it dies. I've checked and there doesn't seem to be any air in the fuel lines, and the pump on the fuel filter feels normal. The generator runs fine so I don't think there's a problem from the tank to the Racors. I'm thinking that the fuel shutoff solenoid may be open when the switch is in the "START" position, but closes when the switch goes to the ON position. I guess there are any number of automatic shutoffs that can occur if a sensor fails (like overheating, ??? else). When I manually close the fuel off (like you would to manually shut down the engine) and crank, it's obvious that there is no fuel getting to the engine. When I crank it without shutting of the fuel manually, I can hear the engine firing, and if I advance the throttle it runs faster as long as the key is in the START position. I'm running out or things to try...anyone have any suggestionsf? Thanks in advance, Kent SM243 KRISTY Brunswick, GA, USA |
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liquid in battery locker SM243
Hi everyone.
After about 2 months of not being on the boat, I came back this week to find about a quarter inch of liquid in the bottom of the battery locker. It did have some acidity but was not like straight battery acid. There was no evidence of battery water loss. I did find the gas ehaust hose had mold in the lower end and there was a dried drip mark draining from the hose down to the bottom of the locker. I'm thinking that maybe the seal on the Amel logo on the starbord side of the dodger is allowing rain water to run down the side under the logo and into the exhaust hose. Has anyone else seen water in their battery compartment? What did you decide was the source? Thanks and Happy Holidays!!! Kent SM 243 KRISTY Brunswick, GA, USA |
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Re: [Amel] RE: Sharki cutless bearing
Gene Carter <geneccarter@...>
Merry Christmas Greg, It is snowing here in the PNW. Unfortunately you can not remove the shaft unless you pull the engine. Pulling the engine is not a big deal, if you need to. You can actually use dunnage across were the winches are and a small chain fall and lift it up high enough to get the shaft out if you are in a pinch. I pulled the engine in less than 2 hours last time, but I have done it a few times over the years. Go Sailing Gene C Carter 9540 Semiahmoo Pkw #120 Blaine WA 98230 Cell (360) 815-5388 On Friday, December 20, 2013 7:59 AM, Gregory Shea wrote: Dave, How did you get the daft to clear the rudder skeg? Maybe there is more room on a Maramu? You mentioned Cheoy Lee some time back. I had one many years ago and it was missing one third of the ballast. A long story but I corrected the omission and she was a different boat, surprise, surprise. Greg Shea Sharki 133 Cap des Isles On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:48 PM, dave_benjamin@... wrote:
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Re: [Amel] RE: Sharki cutless bearing
Gregory Shea
Dave, How did you get the daft to clear the rudder skeg? Maybe there is more room on a Maramu? You mentioned Cheoy Lee some time back. I had one many years ago and it was missing one third of the ballast. A long story but I corrected the omission and she was a different boat, surprise, surprise. Greg Shea Sharki 133 Cap des Isles On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:48 PM, dave_benjamin@... wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Isolated or non Isolated DC to DC Convertor
Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
Alphatronix make an isolated version of their 24/12 volt
Powerverter and sell a large number of them for use in fuel bowsers etc
presumably to reduce the risk of sparks and also,I imagine to reduce the amount
of interference from things being switched on and off elsewhere in the wiring
circuit.
Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319, Malta
From: Mark Erdos
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 12:15 PM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Isolated or non Isolated DC to DC
Convertor
Terry,
I would be concerned that since the SSB must connect to a ground plate the use of a non-isolated DC-DC convertor could compromise the ships system (by connecting you entire ships ground to the same plate). This would most certainly cause electrolysis. Per the instructions of the iCom M802 it states the base unit must be connect to the same ground as the antenna. This is where I fear you would create a problem. It would be best to ensure the negative circuit is closed and not compromised at any point in the SSB connection.
Best regards,
Mark
SM2K #275 www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of
terencesingh@...
I have given this thread much thought and also done some reading since opening up this topic for discussion. I understand that our beloved boats were designed to have the negative side of the DC circuitry for any accessory home run to the negative side of the battery bank. I understand this and accept this. I believe it is common practice in ABYC conforming boats to have the negative side of the battery bank tied to the engine block which the feed an Accessory negative bus. The negative side of all accessories on board are then tied to the negative accessory bus. I understand this and also accept this. Different concept. Here is my question that I need help with. If I use a Newmar 32-12-50 (24 to 12VDC to DC convertor 50 Amps) as a DC to DC convertor which is non isolated with the input feed directly from the ships 24VDC battery bank, and the output feeding a 12VDC distribution panel and each branch circuit from that distribution panel powering the various accessories on the ship with a direct positive and negative home run from the distribution panel, am I compromising the Amel DC circuit design? If the answer is no, does this hold true for a SSB installation?
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Re: [Amel] Isolated or non Isolated DC to DC Convertor
Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
Hi you might want to get aboard an Amel and have a look at how they've done. Over the past year a lot has been written about this subject on this site. Merry Holidays to ALL SM 209 Challenge FOR SALE In Newport RI Regards Capt Richard Piller Fairbanks Yacht Group LLC Cell 603 767 5330 On Dec 20, 2013, at 7:09, David Pawley <pawleyd@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Isolated or non Isolated DC to DC Convertor
David Pawley
Hi, more info please, as not that familiar with Amel. Is Amel systen 24V? is it an option to get a DC to DC converter that is isolted? and why have you chosen unisolated? you could get issues with interference esp from autopilot. Don't know much about radio installation but my reading of it is ground plane is not connected to Negative. Wave_rider and I'm boatless.Broader question I have for you, if your engine block is connected electrically to the saildrive and under ABYC the shore earth is connected to your negative bus. How do you control electrolytic corrosion of your very expensive saildrive. I believe the euro standard is pretty good certainly doesn't have the corrosion potential. I would think Amel went to some trouble to avoid allowing electrical connection between Shore earth/Battery Neg and saildrive. I would think that any connection between AC earth and DC negative, (sometimes happens in Battery charger) would compromise Amel DC circuit design. I would think any power supply for SSB should be isolated, but check this statement out. On 20 December 2013 10:12, <terencesingh@...> wrote:
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Re: [Amel] Isolated or non Isolated DC to DC Convertor
Terry,
I would be concerned that since the SSB must connect to a ground plate the use of a non-isolated DC-DC convertor could compromise the ships system (by connecting you entire ships ground to the same plate). This would most certainly cause electrolysis. Per the instructions of the iCom M802 it states the base unit must be connect to the same ground as the antenna. This is where I fear you would create a problem. It would be best to ensure the negative circuit is closed and not compromised at any point in the SSB connection.
Best regards,
Mark
SM2K #275 www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of terencesingh@...
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 6:12 PM To: amelyachtowners@... Subject: Re: [Amel] Isolated or non Isolated DC to DC Convertor
I have given this thread much thought and also done some reading since opening up this topic for discussion. I understand that our beloved boats were designed to have the negative side of the DC circuitry for any accessory home run to the negative side of the battery bank. I understand this and accept this.
I believe it is common practice in ABYC conforming boats to have the negative side of the battery bank tied to the engine block which the feed an Accessory negative bus. The negative side of all accessories on board are then tied to the negative accessory bus. I understand this and also accept this. Different concept.
Here is my question that I need help with. If I use a Newmar 32-12-50 (24 to 12VDC to DC convertor 50 Amps) as a DC to DC convertor which is non isolated with the input feed directly from the ships 24VDC battery bank, and the output feeding a 12VDC distribution panel and each branch circuit from that distribution panel powering the various accessories on the ship with a direct positive and negative home run from the distribution panel, am I compromising the Amel DC circuit design?
If the answer is no, does this hold true for a SSB installation?
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Re: [Amel] Isolated or non Isolated DC to DC Convertor
islandbwoy4434
I have given this thread much thought and also done some reading since opening up this topic for discussion. I understand that our beloved boats were designed to have the negative side of the DC circuitry for any accessory home run to the negative side of the battery bank. I understand this and accept this. I believe it is common practice in ABYC conforming boats to have the negative side of the battery bank tied to the engine block which the feed an Accessory negative bus. The negative side of all accessories on board are then tied to the negative accessory bus. I understand this and also accept this. Different concept. Here is my question that I need help with. If I use a Newmar 32-12-50 (24 to 12VDC to DC convertor 50 Amps) as a DC to DC convertor which is non isolated with the input feed directly from the ships 24VDC battery bank, and the output feeding a 12VDC distribution panel and each branch circuit from that distribution panel powering the various accessories on the ship with a direct positive and negative home run from the distribution panel, am I compromising the Amel DC circuit design? If the answer is no, does this hold true for a SSB installation? |
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Re: [Amel] Christmas greetings
Here here. I’ll second that.
Merry Christmas
Best regards,
Mark
SM2K #275 www.creampuff.us
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 2:03 PM To: amel owners Subject: [Amel] Christmas greetings
All the best for the Christmas season to you all. It has been a pleasure corresponding with you over the year.Thank you all for your input. Danny and Yvonne SM 299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand |
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Christmas greetings
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
All the best for the Christmas season to you all. It has been a pleasure corresponding with you over the year.Thank you all for your input. Danny and Yvonne SM 299 Ocean Pearl Mangonui New Zealand |
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Re: [Amel] spam fighter
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Pat, seems a number of us have the same problem. They are not in my spam folder either. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl From: Patrick Mcaneny
To: amelyachtowners@... Sent: Friday, 20 December 2013 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [Amel] spam fighter This morning is the first Amel related emails that I have had in about a week,and my spam folder is empty. Pat SM #123
-----Original Message----- Interestingly our previous steady flow of Amel site emails has recently ceased too. I wonder if this has something to do with the Yahoo site changes?? Will check my spam folder but don't think that to be the reason.
Fair Winds
Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, sm2k #332
Newport, QLD Australia
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445
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Re: Through hulls on SM 140 and threads BSP NPT
Dave_Benjamin
Graham, Are you in the US? I found a hydraulic supply place in Houston that had a good supply of BSP valves and fittings. What some people have done is just change the skin fitting so they don't have to deal with the oddball BSP plumbing. |
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Through hulls on SM 140 and threads BSP NPT
Graham Boyd
I just sent this to Maud in LaRochelle and would be interested if any one had any comments.
Dear Maud, A technical question. My SM no 140 has through hull fittings for the intake water in both the of the toilets. The ball valve fittings for both of these now need replaced. As I understand it the through hull fitting will have a BSP (parallel) thread. Can I assume that the ball valves fitted by Amel also have BSP parallel threads? And following on from that the "tails" for the pipe connections will be the same.? All the ball valves available in the USA have NPT (tapered) threads which are incompatible with BSP Through hulls, so I am assuming that I will have to either purchase my new ball valves some where in Europe/ UK to get a bronze ball valve with BSP threads at both ends, or buy a proprietary adapting fitting (Grocco) which will allow a BSP to NPT connection? I look forward to hearing from you. Graham SM140 Sula Hong Kong |
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Re: [Amel] spam fighter
Patrick McAneny
This morning is the first Amel related emails that I have had in about a week,and my spam folder is empty. Pat SM #123
-----Original Message----- From: Colin Streeter To: amelyachtowners Sent: Thu, Dec 19, 2013 12:44 am Subject: Re: [Amel] spam fighter Interestingly our previous steady flow of Amel site emails has recently ceased too. I wonder if this has something to do with the Yahoo site changes?? Will check my spam folder but don't think that to be the reason.
Fair Winds
Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, sm2k #332
Newport, QLD Australia
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
-- Colin Streeter
0411 016 445
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Re: [Amel] spam fighter
Interestingly our previous steady flow of Amel site emails has recently ceased too. I wonder if this has something to do with the Yahoo site changes?? Will check my spam folder but don't think that to be the reason.
Fair Winds Colin & Lauren Streeter Island Pearl II, sm2k #332 Newport, QLD Australia On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Sailorman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
-- Colin Streeter
0411 016 445 |
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Re: [Amel] one more time anchor roller and wing plate
Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
I give up, Photos are posted in the first Kimberlite photo section Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite
From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Sailorman
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one more time anchor roller and wing plate
Sailorman <kimberlite@...>
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