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Re: Replacing a Perkins Prima M50

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Joe,
Rather than replacment, you may want to consider a rebuild when the time comes (seems 5000 hours is just getting broken in ;-)

You can largely do it yourself at a fraction of the cost of new. I did mine at about the same hours as yours back in '04 (due to probs other than hours.) Sent the injectors & injector pump to a shop for about $700 (that's not DIY territory!), paid $2100 for a complete rebuild kit from Perkins, paid $300 to a local mechanic for a few hours of his time & coaching when needed (and he had a couple of tools I didn't). Lifted the engine up with the halyards and set it back down in the cockpit to work on it. Finished in about a week and the best part is you really know your engine when you're done.

If you're not into DIY that much, you can have a shop rebuild it for you, again, much more economically than a new engine. Plus you know it'll fit back in and the connections/controls/gauges don't need modifying.

Good luck,
Craig & Katherine, s/v SANGARIS, Santorin #68


Re: [Amel] Super Maramu insurance, Atlantic crossing and Caribbean?

Jean Boucharlat
 

Bill,



I am glad to have been able to help.

Eat a few good satays on my behalf in Malaysia.



All the best,



Jean Boucharlat



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svbebe
Sent: vendredi 22 janvier 2010 01:26
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel] Super Maramu insurance, Atlantic crossing and Caribbean?





Jean,

Thanks for posting the information about Assurances Maritimes. I previously
had insurance with Allianz UK. Unfortunately Allianz changed their minds
about our planned route from Malaysia to the Med and refused to cover us
once we departed the western coast of India...not just for piracy, but
refused coverage completly until we arrived in the Med. I was extremely
frustrated by this because when we wrote with Allianz 1 year ago we gave
them a 3-year itinerary including this area.

We found the policy offered by Assurances Maritimes competitive and straight
forward. We dealt with Françoise GODINEAU in La Rochelle via email at
fgodineau"at"assurances-delassee.com. He claims that they give a preferred
rate to Amel owners. Our new coverage area is "around the world" from 60
North to 40 South with the only exclusion being US territorial waters (they
have probably experienced US lawyers). The policy includes hurricane
coverage with certain stipulations for mooring and/or docking.

BTW, they have a office in the Caribbean at St. Jean Bay, St. Barths +33
(0)5 90 27 83 70

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , "Jean Boucharlat"
<jean.boucharlat@...> wrote:

Niels,



Try the following agent ;



Assurances Maritimes Alain de Lassée

Le Sextant – Port des Minimes

BP 66

17003 La Rochelle Cedex



Tel +33.5 4645 4645

Fax +33.5 4644 1126



They usually place their policies with Swiss Life (although they may have
changed with time) and I found them reasonable and very knowledgeable
about
Amel boats. I did insure my boat with them, but this dates back a couple
years so one never knows for sure.



Jean Boucharlat
(Formerly SM 232)




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Re: [Amel] Super Maramu insurance, Atlantic crossing and Caribbean?

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jean,

Thanks for posting the information about Assurances Maritimes. I previously had insurance with Allianz UK. Unfortunately Allianz changed their minds about our planned route from Malaysia to the Med and refused to cover us once we departed the western coast of India...not just for piracy, but refused coverage completly until we arrived in the Med. I was extremely frustrated by this because when we wrote with Allianz 1 year ago we gave them a 3-year itinerary including this area.

We found the policy offered by Assurances Maritimes competitive and straight forward. We dealt with Françoise GODINEAU in La Rochelle via email at fgodineau"at"assurances-delassee.com. He claims that they give a preferred rate to Amel owners. Our new coverage area is "around the world" from 60 North to 40 South with the only exclusion being US territorial waters (they have probably experienced US lawyers). The policy includes hurricane coverage with certain stipulations for mooring and/or docking.

BTW, they have a office in the Caribbean at St. Jean Bay, St. Barths +33 (0)5 90 27 83 70

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Jean Boucharlat" <jean.boucharlat@...> wrote:

Niels,



Try the following agent ;



Assurances Maritimes Alain de Lassée

Le Sextant – Port des Minimes

BP 66

17003 La Rochelle Cedex



Tel +33.5 4645 4645

Fax +33.5 4644 1126



They usually place their policies with Swiss Life (although they may have
changed with time) and I found them reasonable and very knowledgeable about
Amel boats. I did insure my boat with them, but this dates back a couple
years so one never knows for sure.



Jean Boucharlat
(Formerly SM 232)


Replacing a perkins prima mt50

joseph mc donnell
 

Hi all
The subject of replacing the Perkins Prima mt50 on our club owned, 1992 Santorin Khamsin B, has been raised. Although the engine is still motoring along nicely, albeit with a bit of smoke, there is nearly 5000hrs up on the clock. While there is no intention to change the engine immediatly, we would like to be prepared for that eventuality, as we intend to hold onto Khamsin B for many years to come.
This of course leads to my question, has anyone replaced a perkins prima mt50 and if so which engine was chosen and why, My own choice would be for a naturally asperated engine over a turbo-charged one, mainly due to the varity of skill levels within the club and the fact that they are more tolerant to abuse. But this is just my opinion and I'm open to a good discussion on the subject.

Looking forward to hearing from your experience's..
Regards Joe McDonnell


Re: [Amel] Replacement Main Sail

Melbourne <melbourne@...>
 

We also installed Super Sails (Ft. Lauderdale) main and mizzen with
vertical battens two years ago. Now, we have a small amount of chafe
(about 5 cm length, 2 cm width) on the middle batten pocket of the
main, on the side that is exposed to the inner wall of the mast when
furling. Sticky sail patch seems to solve the problem, at least
temporarily. On a close reach we think that our boat points slightly
better with the vertical battens.
William Melbourne
S/V Third Wish, SMM 306
++++++++

On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:02 AM, Bob Linley wrote:

2 years ago I had "Super Sails " in Florida make a new Main sail with
vertical battens. Great improvement in sail shape and no problems
furling
the sail.

Bob

Minaxi SM6

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Replacement Main Sail

We requested a quote for a replacement Gateff main sail for our
1998 SM from
Doyle Sails. One option offered was a quote for a battened sail. We
would be
pleased to accept advice from whosoever has experience of vertical
battens
on inmast furling sails

Myra & Paraic
SV Saol Eile
SM 228

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Re: loose furling knob on mizzen

Jose <jgvenegas@...>
 

Mark, I had the same problem and used "gorilla" glue last fall. So far it is still in place but, in I have not used it that much since. Only time will tell. If you try it be careful to use a small amount and monitor it during the curing process because this glue expands when it cures.

Jose
Ipanema SM278


Re: [Amel] Replacement Main Sail

minaxi53
 

2 years ago I had "Super Sails " in Florida make a new Main sail with
vertical battens. Great improvement in sail shape and no problems furling
the sail.

Bob

Minaxi SM6



From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of paraic44
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel] Replacement Main Sail





We requested a quote for a replacement Gateff main sail for our 1998 SM from
Doyle Sails. One option offered was a quote for a battened sail. We would be
pleased to accept advice from whosoever has experience of vertical battens
on inmast furling sails

Myra & Paraic
SV Saol Eile
SM 228


Replacement Main Sail

paraic44 <paraic44@...>
 

We requested a quote for a replacement Gateff main sail for our 1998 SM from Doyle Sails. One option offered was a quote for a battened sail. We would be pleased to accept advice from whosoever has experience of vertical battens on inmast furling sails

Myra & Paraic
SV Saol Eile
SM 228


loose furling knob on mizzen

Mark Hayden
 

The black donut mizzen furling knob that wraps the socket for the winch handle is loose. I always have to push it back in before/after furling/unfurling my mizzen. Not a major problem but annoying nonetheless.

I asked the Amel guys in Guadeloupe to fix this, which I think they tried by using glue of some sort. But it came loose after a couple of weeks.

Has anyone else has this problem? Is there a good fix?

Thanks in advance,

Mark

SM2K #331


Re: [Amel] Amel drive seals

Paul LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

When we had the seals replaced in Guadaloupe last year they installed them exactly as you have described.

Paul LaFrance
SV NOMAD #362



To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
From: jgvenegas@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:10:13 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Amel drive seals




























Last fall I replaced the drive seals of my SM following the directions provided by the factory. The inner two seals oriented to prevent oil from escaping and the outer one oriented to prevent water from entering. Clearly, once the outer seal fails, water begin to enter into the drive even if the two other seals are still intact.

Since I changed them, I have been thinking that, although perhaps less ecological, it could be advantageous to invert the orientation of the seals so that the two inner seals would be oriented to prevent water from entering the drive and the outer seal to prevent oil from leaving it. This seems to have two advantages. First, and fore most, one needs two seals to get damaged, instead of one, in order to for water to enter the drive. As the outer seal begin to fail, some oil could begin to be slowly lost, which could be easily replaced until one is able to fix the problem but the remaining oil will not be mixed with water. With the current seal orientation, replacing the water/oil emulsion is not feasible unless one takes to boat out of the water.

The second advantage is that oil will be able to lubricate well the inner and central seals while water would be lubricating the outer one. In the current orientation oil and water are prevented from lubricating any of the seals and once the grease initially used is lost the seals become dry.

Has any one tried inverting the orientation of the seals?

Am I missing something basic here?



Has any


















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Re: [Amel] Companionway sliding door repair

amelforme
 

Hello Jose. The main problem in effecting a good repair is that you
must remove the dodger to get the door out to completely re-skin the
veneer. This is not easy, I have done it several times in preparing
used Amel boats for resale and it is a job that will test your skills
and your patience.



Several other options exist. A skilled woodworker can re-veneer the
door in place with thicker teak veneer. This repair never looks as
good as original but can be about 95% as good, dependant on the skill
of the person doing the job. Also, I have seen people use exterior
grade laminate product (Formica or similar) to good effect as long as
the surface is properly smoothed and prepared. The same for painting.
Like all painting projects, the preparation is the key part of the
job. Lighter colors with less gloss are easier to apply to end up with
a satisfactory finish.



I knew one brave and very tool savvy client who actually cut the door
in half with a 45 degree horizontal cut. He resurfaced it and glued
the two pieces together and put on a simple trim piece over the
mid-panel cut that was nearly flush that looked ok and seemed to work
well.



Again, not an easy repair but a rewarding one to get right.





All the best,

Joel F. Potter



Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC

Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas

401 East Las Olas Boulevard, #130-126

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301

Phone: (954) 462-5869

Email: jfpottercys@att.net


Amel drive seals

Jose <jgvenegas@...>
 

Last fall I replaced the drive seals of my SM following the directions provided by the factory. The inner two seals oriented to prevent oil from escaping and the outer one oriented to prevent water from entering. Clearly, once the outer seal fails, water begin to enter into the drive even if the two other seals are still intact.
Since I changed them, I have been thinking that, although perhaps less ecological, it could be advantageous to invert the orientation of the seals so that the two inner seals would be oriented to prevent water from entering the drive and the outer seal to prevent oil from leaving it. This seems to have two advantages. First, and fore most, one needs two seals to get damaged, instead of one, in order to for water to enter the drive. As the outer seal begin to fail, some oil could begin to be slowly lost, which could be easily replaced until one is able to fix the problem but the remaining oil will not be mixed with water. With the current seal orientation, replacing the water/oil emulsion is not feasible unless one takes to boat out of the water.
The second advantage is that oil will be able to lubricate well the inner and central seals while water would be lubricating the outer one. In the current orientation oil and water are prevented from lubricating any of the seals and once the grease initially used is lost the seals become dry.
Has any one tried inverting the orientation of the seals?
Am I missing something basic here?

Has any


Companionway sliding door repair

Jose <jgvenegas@...>
 

During the bitterly cold winter in Boston, and in spite that the boat is shrink wrapped and we keep the cockpit area enclosed, the companion way door has begun to peel of its veneer in both sides. Has any body replaced the veneer and, if so, what types of wood are they, or is it? Any suggestions short of replacing the whole door?

Jose and Magnolia
Ipanema SM278
Hibernating at Constitution Marina


Re: [Amel] Calpeda air conditioning pump

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Hi Rink,

Thanks for the info. I will give them a call.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, Rink de Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:

Hello John,

I did the same last year though I replaced the pump with a new Calpeda.
The old one was serviced in Holland, were we live, by the Dutch distributor
and service point.
There contact information is below. Let me know if I can help you with this.

Regards,

Rink de Haan
SM 2000-330
"Razor's Edge"

*Barco marine equipment B.V.

Postal addres
*Postbus 7418
3280 AE Numansdorp

*Visitors addres*
J. van der Heydenstraat 3
3281 NE Numansdorp

Phone :
+31 (0)186 - 655010
Fax :
+31 (0)186 - 655040




2010/1/18 johnabo2003 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>



I replaced the shaft seal on the Calpeda water pump for the air
conditioning system. I think the model is (B-C 20E). Unfortunately the pump
now makes a lot of noise because I think that the motor bearings may have
been salt water damaged when the seal failed.

I am planning on replacing the unit with the March AC-5C-MD pump. However,
I was going to replace the bearings on the Calpeda motor and keep it as a
spare.

Has anybody else done this, I am having trouble finding a web site to
supply the bearings.

Thanks
John Abercrombie SM391



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Re: [Amel] Calpeda air conditioning pump

Rink De Haan
 

Hello John,

I did the same last year though I replaced the pump with a new Calpeda.
The old one was serviced in Holland, were we live, by the Dutch distributor
and service point.
There contact information is below. Let me know if I can help you with this.

Regards,

Rink de Haan
SM 2000-330
"Razor's Edge"

*Barco marine equipment B.V.

Postal addres
*Postbus 7418
3280 AE Numansdorp

*Visitors addres*
J. van der Heydenstraat 3
3281 NE Numansdorp

Phone :
+31 (0)186 - 655010
Fax :
+31 (0)186 - 655040




2010/1/18 johnabo2003 <no_reply@yahoogroups.com>



I replaced the shaft seal on the Calpeda water pump for the air
conditioning system. I think the model is (B-C 20E). Unfortunately the pump
now makes a lot of noise because I think that the motor bearings may have
been salt water damaged when the seal failed.

I am planning on replacing the unit with the March AC-5C-MD pump. However,
I was going to replace the bearings on the Calpeda motor and keep it as a
spare.

Has anybody else done this, I am having trouble finding a web site to
supply the bearings.

Thanks
John Abercrombie SM391



Re: ISAF Category 1 modifications

Mr D
 

Dave, I've been working on that boat pretty much nonstop for about a
year - complete overhaul, almost too much at times. I want to take it
to Australia, so Pac Cup maybe a little too late in the season, but I
think I can make the window or take safer routes around the weather.
It will be a shakedown, but there is always a fine line between safety
and adventure. Keep getting the boat ready and never end up going
places one wants to is much too common and not an option for myself.
Boats that (probably) turn are either cut-corner people, crazy race
lightweight hulls or those who forgot to christen the boat. Time will
tell. Anyway, I didnt know you are in Mexico, thats great! Do you
still run your sails loft?


Calpeda air conditioning pump

johnabo2003 <no_reply@...>
 

I replaced the shaft seal on the Calpeda water pump for the air conditioning system. I think the model is (B-C 20E). Unfortunately the pump now makes a lot of noise because I think that the motor bearings may have been salt water damaged when the seal failed.

I am planning on replacing the unit with the March AC-5C-MD pump. However, I was going to replace the bearings on the Calpeda motor and keep it as a spare.

Has anybody else done this, I am having trouble finding a web site to supply the bearings.

Thanks
John Abercrombie SM391


Re: ISAF Category 1 modifications

Dave_Benjamin
 

Dmitry,

I'm a bit confused in that you could incorporate the ORC recommendations that do make some sense for your boat regardless of whether you race or not. I'm not sure where you plan to sail after Hawaii but for the traditional South Pacific "milk run" I think it's far more appealing to spend some time cruising Mexico first. There's several advantages which is why the vast majority of west coast boats that are headed for the South Pacific in the spring are down here with us in Mexico right now. I know you recently bought the boat and if it's the Sharki that was for sale in Alameda I know it needed a lot of work. Shaking a boat down with a 2000 mile open ocean voyage may not be the best approach. Every Pac Cup there boats turn back to the mainland within a few days with gear problems. If you start off with cruising Mexico you will find out what works and what doesn't. And you've got some great coastal cruising between the bay area and the Mexican border. If you break something it's really easy to deal with it somewhere like Oxnard as opposed to 400 or 500 miles outside the gate. At one point going down the coast we had a bit of a gear problem and ducked in to Port San Luis. We were able to deal with the problem in a lovely protected setting, make some dinner, and then take off. When we ducked in it was blowing over 30 offshore with 13-15 foot seas. Although we could have made our fix offshore it was nice to duck in. Until you have sailed the boat for a while it's still a shakedown cruise, so best to treat it that way in my opinion.

Once you leave North America the logistics of getting parts and service is more complicated.

Also it's usually a fairly easy sail from Mexico to the Marquesas. I'd give Cornell's book and VPP a close look depending on where you're headed.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "dshkipin" <dshkipin@...> wrote:

Dave, the Pac Cup is a first leg for me on to further journey. In your case you probably would really want to win, but I am sailing it because it offers strict offshore preparation, that being my first open ocean voyage. Some odd requirements, yes, but most do make sense, and if anything, make a good guide. As far as the rudder, its just happens to be part of wind vane on my boat, but aside from that I never plan to use it in the emergency - as you pointed out - it will fall off long before the main rudder will.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@> wrote:

Dmitry,

Every two years I enjoy a nice spurt of business thanks to Pacific Cup and people needing to comply ORC Cat 1. Quite honestly if I wanted to do Pac Cup or a similar event I'd crew for a customer. The ORC rules are pretensed on making lightly constructed race boats safe for ocean racing. The Amel's are light years ahead in terms of safety and seaworthiness. For instance rudder failures are not unheard of on spade ruddered race boats, thus the requirements for an elaborate replacement rudder. I've never even heard of an Amel losing steerage and with the skeg in place it's unlikely you could lose the rudder without something far more onerous to worry about than steerage. So you will spend an inordinate sum for a backup rudder that is highly unlikely to ever to be used. I'd rather spend that money on a second autopilot.

Cheers,
Dave


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "dshkipin" <dshkipin@> wrote:

Has anyone entered a ISAF Category 1 race with an Amel? There are some rules to which Amel may or may not be built. For example, there is an OSR 3.12 that states "The heel of a keel stepped mast shall be securely fastened to the mast step or adjoining structure" which could mean I need a bolt through the mast base. If anyone entered Category 1 race before, quick list of things you added/modified would be priceless.

"Victoria"


Re: ISAF Category 1 modifications

Mr D
 

Dave, the Pac Cup is a first leg for me on to further journey. In your case you probably would really want to win, but I am sailing it because it offers strict offshore preparation, that being my first open ocean voyage. Some odd requirements, yes, but most do make sense, and if anything, make a good guide. As far as the rudder, its just happens to be part of wind vane on my boat, but aside from that I never plan to use it in the emergency - as you pointed out - it will fall off long before the main rudder will.

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:

Dmitry,

Every two years I enjoy a nice spurt of business thanks to Pacific Cup and people needing to comply ORC Cat 1. Quite honestly if I wanted to do Pac Cup or a similar event I'd crew for a customer. The ORC rules are pretensed on making lightly constructed race boats safe for ocean racing. The Amel's are light years ahead in terms of safety and seaworthiness. For instance rudder failures are not unheard of on spade ruddered race boats, thus the requirements for an elaborate replacement rudder. I've never even heard of an Amel losing steerage and with the skeg in place it's unlikely you could lose the rudder without something far more onerous to worry about than steerage. So you will spend an inordinate sum for a backup rudder that is highly unlikely to ever to be used. I'd rather spend that money on a second autopilot.

Cheers,
Dave


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "dshkipin" <dshkipin@> wrote:

Has anyone entered a ISAF Category 1 race with an Amel? There are some rules to which Amel may or may not be built. For example, there is an OSR 3.12 that states "The heel of a keel stepped mast shall be securely fastened to the mast step or adjoining structure" which could mean I need a bolt through the mast base. If anyone entered Category 1 race before, quick list of things you added/modified would be priceless.

"Victoria"


Re: Marina in Kusadasi - Turkey

Jurgen <jurgenjohanssen@...>
 

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "Rink de Haan" <rinkdehaan@...>
wrote:

Hello everyone,

We are planning to relocate our SM2000 from Crete to the Kusadasi
Marina in Turkey. We would also like to do some maintenance there. Does
anyone have experiences (good or bad) with this particular marina?

Rink
"Razor's Edge"
SM2000-330
Hi Rink,

Kusadasi marina is not one of the newest in Turkey but it is OK. For
normal maintenace I am sure they are able to do it. When it gets more
complicated one can always get help (for a price) from Izmir which is
1.5hours away. Obviously Mamaris or Bodrum are much better technically
advanced because they are centres for charter companies.

Good luck

regards

Jurgen 'ARGO IV'