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Re: Upgrading Electronics

karkauai
 

Thanks, Miles,
That sounds like a very comprehensive setup you have. I'm guessing I'm
going to have to spend some serious money to get equipped like I'd like
to be.

I have an SSB and (I think) AIS receiving VHS, do you think it worth
the money to get AIS transmitter, too? I have 36mile Furano radar and
the GPS unit originally installed by Amel. Also will purchase hand
held backup GPS x 2.

Being only partially computer literate, I'll need some help with all
the necessary connectors and compatibility issues. Anyone have
suggestions for someone to help with this in Galveston area?

Thanks to all again.
Kent
1999 SM "Kristy"


Re: [Amel] Re: Chartplotters, upgrading electronics

dlm48@...
 

In my case not al all i do have a chart plotter - do i hanker back to the old days - not really - i do have paper charts and i do refer to them frequently - 'probably' because i am teaching my new partner about sailing - including navigation and pilotage. ALL i was saying is that it is too easy to believe all these magic boxes - probably doubly so if this is all you have known - somehow i have a inbuilt genetic/DNA propensity to have a very well developed 'sixth sense' - or a guardian angel or whatever. That and being a very logical person and a bit of an investigator think Sherlock Holmes / Poirot and somehow i just know when things dont quite add up. Sadly i cant replicate that put that in a box and sell it. I may be the ancient mariner but woudl not swap my GPS's for a sextant!!!! I know heresy giggles.

regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: karkauai <karkauai@yahoo.com>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 9:18 pm
Subject: [Amel] Re: Chartplotters, upgrading electronics

























Thanks, David, John, and Anne,

Do I take it that you would rather avoid the extra cost and hassle of

problems with electronic chartplotters, or are you just extolling the

virtues of the "good 'ol days"? I've read many stories of problems

folks have had relying on their chartplotters alone, and of course,

would never go without reliable paper charts, too. I do, however, hate

running up and down the companionway to glance at the chart again when

I'm in a narrow passageway (ie the ICW).



I've had one reply that Richard liked the CMap software, but he didn't

go into detail why. Has anyone bought the software and used their

laptop as the chartplotter? I guess you interface with a GPS and ?

with radar as well.



Thanks again,

Kent


Re: Upgrading Electronics

Miles Bidwell <mbidwell@...>
 

Ahoy Kent,

I am sure that you will get many different responses expressing many
different views. The approach I will describe has worked for me for over
40,000 miles and three transatlantic.

The heart of my approach is a fast, large screen Laptop that is attached to
a shelf that slides out (and locks) over the chart table. The computer
rotates on the shelf so that it is visible to someone sitting at the helm.
(Amel made the shelf but it would not be hard to make one that functioned
the same, although making one as pretty would be a bigger challenge).

The GPS shows my boat on the computer screen on images of paper charts using
The Capn program. This way I do not loss any chart details that I might
want to have. My AIS black box shows all large boats within about 50 miles,
also on the paper chart image. Whatever you decide on in the way of chart
plotters or laptops, I strongly suggest having some sort of AIS receiver.
Several years ago I passed through the Straits of Gibraltar and it was
terrifying. At one point, the radar screen showed 10 targets that all
appeared to be heading for me at high speed. Last year I again sailed
through the Straits and the AIS eliminated the stress. This time, I saw
about 40 ships on my computer chart-each labeled with its' name, course,
speed, and closest passing distance. Of the forty, only two would come
within two miles of me and since they were almost 30 miles away, a very
small course change on my part increased the closest passing distance to
over 5 miles without bring any of the other ships too close. Adding the AIS
is simple. Just attach it to the VHF antenna, using a multiplex splitter
that keeps the devices from using the antenna at the same time, and connect
it to a USB port on the computer. (If use this approach, you will need a
port multiplier that turns one USB port into six USB ports-there is more to
come.)

I have a SSB radio with a Pactor modem that uses the same laptop to receive
and to send emails and to get grib files and other weather information using
Sailmail. I have a KVH immarsat mini-M phone that also sends and receives
emails and documents using the laptop. The SSB receives weather faxes and
stores them on the computer until I look at them or print them on the
printer under the chart table.

This system has now worked for over ten years. I always use a fairly new
laptop and keep the older on in a pelican case under a bunk. If the GPS
fails, I have two small Garmin GPS that are ready to plug into the laptop.
These work as well as the built in one as long as they are out in the
cockpit which means a bunch a wires running up the companionway but if the
main one did fail, the wires would be easier to deal with than the sextant I
keep in a front locker.

I hope that this has been of some help. I wish you luck on your sailing
adventures.

Regards,

Miles ( LADYBUG sm 216 )


Re: Chartplotters, upgrading electronics

Mark Pitt
 

I have heard of others claiming that S/V Sambaluka was an Amel. She
was not. Sambaluka was a "beautiful, beautiful one of a kind" yacht,
made from solid teak in South Africa, to quote her owner. See the
story in
http://www.stuff.co.nz/AAMB6/aamsz=275x15_TEXTLINK/4769642a12.html

Mark Pitt
S/V Sabbatical III ASM #419 (Scarborough, Australia)

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "marinmeccanica"
<marinmeccanica@...> wrote:

And, sadly, another Amel (S/V Sambaluka) was lost in Australia on
Chesterfield Reef this past November. I believe they were relying on
electronic charts as well.
KR

The October Yachting Monthly contains a report about the loss of
Asolare,an Amel 54, on Moore Reef, some 52 miles NW of Willis Island
on his route from Vanuatu to Cairns whilst he was participating in the
World ARC Rally. There were two persons on board and as the
Insurance with Pantaenius specified that there should always be three
persons insurers used this fact to reject the claim even though that
it had no bearing on the disaster. The owner was seventy years old and
had some 50 years experience.
It appears that his electronic charts, supplied by Jeppeson in
2007, did not show the reef which was clearly marked on earlier
versions of C Map. The report says that as he closed the Australian
coast he changed from his passage chart to two coastal charts for the
approach to Cairns and he says that the reef was not shown on either
chart adding that it was actually on bottom of one and the top of the
other. I do not understand this comment as C Map charts are seamless.
Perhaps a slow chartplotter would not be seamless when moving from one
chart to another? He was also carrying all the relevant paper charts.
I have looked at Moore Reef on my 2002 version of C Map. The reef
is at about 15deg55'S and 149deg15E and is not shown on the scale
1/10mllion nor the 1/2.5m scales but is on the 1/1m scale.


Re: Chartplotters, upgrading electronics

marinmeccanica <marinmeccanica@...>
 

And, sadly, another Amel (S/V Sambaluka) was lost in Australia on
Chesterfield Reef this past November. I believe they were relying on
electronic charts as well.
KR

The October Yachting Monthly contains a report about the loss of
Asolare,an Amel 54, on Moore Reef, some 52 miles NW of Willis Island
on his route from Vanuatu to Cairns whilst he was participating in the
World ARC Rally. There were two persons on board and as the
Insurance with Pantaenius specified that there should always be three
persons insurers used this fact to reject the claim even though that
it had no bearing on the disaster. The owner was seventy years old and
had some 50 years experience.
It appears that his electronic charts, supplied by Jeppeson in
2007, did not show the reef which was clearly marked on earlier
versions of C Map. The report says that as he closed the Australian
coast he changed from his passage chart to two coastal charts for the
approach to Cairns and he says that the reef was not shown on either
chart adding that it was actually on bottom of one and the top of the
other. I do not understand this comment as C Map charts are seamless.
Perhaps a slow chartplotter would not be seamless when moving from one
chart to another? He was also carrying all the relevant paper charts.
I have looked at Moore Reef on my 2002 version of C Map. The reef
is at about 15deg55'S and 149deg15E and is not shown on the scale
1/10mllion nor the 1/2.5m scales but is on the 1/1m scale.


Re: [Amel] Re: LED light bulbs

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

Hi I was just getting ready to answer Mark when you e-mailed. I used the sensibulb for the oval globes over the nav station,the engine room and the light under the dodger. The flat glass on the lights in the heads and galley didn't have enough height for the sensibulb so I went with the G4 bulb, its a side mounted,flat light bulb that fits nicely in the fixture. I use my cockpit light with an anchor light at night because it uses so little juice and gives the boat a nice glow at night. The G4 is sold by a lot of places,but hard to find 24 volts. I bought 1 from marinebeam.com but the best company is the ledshoponline.com. click on the marine division. He,s in Australia. Real nice people. For the lights with shades on them I'm going to try the same bulb that Mark is using in the anchor light. I found it for $40.00 at mastlight.com. They also have the G4 but only in 12 volts. What did you use for the bulbs in the lamps with shades, or did you replace the whole fixture? John "Moondog" SM248

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.comFrom: kanalmamman@hotmail.comDate: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:29:36 +0000Subject: [Amel] Re: LED light bulbs



Hi JohnWe have replaced almost all our lamps with LED. Inside we have LED from Sailors Solutions Sensibulb. They give the same color, warmth and strenght as the original bulbs.Our navigation lights are Hella OnDeck Level. In the mast we haveLupolight on bothe steam and tricolor as well as on deck lights.The Lupolights are expensive but they are worth every penny.Annsofie and JonasS/Y Lady AnnilaSM 232





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Re: Chartplotters, upgrading electronics

karkauai
 

Thanks, David, John, and Anne,
Do I take it that you would rather avoid the extra cost and hassle of
problems with electronic chartplotters, or are you just extolling the
virtues of the "good 'ol days"? I've read many stories of problems
folks have had relying on their chartplotters alone, and of course,
would never go without reliable paper charts, too. I do, however, hate
running up and down the companionway to glance at the chart again when
I'm in a narrow passageway (ie the ICW).

I've had one reply that Richard liked the CMap software, but he didn't
go into detail why. Has anyone bought the software and used their
laptop as the chartplotter? I guess you interface with a GPS and ?
with radar as well.

Thanks again,
Kent


Re: LED light bulbs

ladyannila <kanalmamman@...>
 

Hi John
We have replaced almost all our lamps with LED.

Inside we have LED from Sailors Solutions Sensibulb. They give the same
color, warmth and strenght as the original bulbs.

Our navigation lights are Hella OnDeck Level. In the mast we have
Lupolight on bothe steam and tricolor as well as on deck lights.

The Lupolights are expensive but they are worth every penny.

Annsofie and Jonas
S/Y Lady Annila
SM 232


BRAND NEW AMEL 64 ON DUSSELDORF BOAT SHOW

funattsea <funattsea@...>
 

Just back from the Dusseldorf boat show, and despite recession, the
Amel stand showed a mock up of the brand new Amel 64 !!
Different than the 54 but still a real Amel. Big centre cockpit with
hard dodger with fixed table in the middle. Almost a flush after deck
with small steps to get out of the cockpit. Big storage room at the
transom.
Mr. Rioton told me that the boat will have three separate cabins. The
yard will have a new building just for the construction of this new
64.
First sailing test are planned for end of 2009. Probably first delivery
will be middle 2010. Hull number two is already sold. Plans are a
build some 64 a year and the rest will be 54.
Sorry that I forgot to take my photo camera with me but perhaps someone
else this week will visit the show as well and have a chance to make
some pictures.

lAURENS & RINEKE
AMEL 54
FUN@SEA


Re: Lofrans Tigres switch

Ken & Judy <goldendaze@...>
 

On our Maramu we removed the switch and covered the hole,
installed an imptra up/down solenoid and two foot switches.
We then added a 2 way momentary switch at the helm (with
on/off saftey switch) to run the windlass,
which makes anchoring a one person job.
The wire (hardest part)to run the solenoid is already in
place, from the upper forward cabinet where the other solenoids
are, back to the helm, up under the compass. This is
a very inexpensive and worthwhile upgrade.
Ken & Judy
Golden Daze
Maramu #191 Marmaris Turkey


Lofgrans Tigress Switches and Rubber Covers

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

Re: Lofrans Tigres switch

As others have said, the push button switches on the Tirgress
Windlass are not standard, but are added by Amel.

The rubber covers and the switch assemblies are separate items
and are available from Amel at a modest price. They are easily
replaced.

Since shipping costs from France to the USA are the major
portion of almost any bill from Amel I chose to get 4 switches
and 6 rubber covers whenI ordered.

The rubber covers have lasted about 4 years in the Caribbean
sun.

Best of luck.

Gary Silver, Amel SM335


Re: Lofrans Tigres switch

amelliahona <no_reply@...>
 

As others have said, the push button switches on the Tirgress
Windlass are not standard, but are added by Amel.

The rubber covers and the switch assemblies are available from
Amel at a modest price. They are easily replaced. Since shipping
costs are the major portion of almost any bill from Amel I chose
to get 4 switches and 6 rubber covers when I ordered.

The rubber covers have lasted about 4 years in the Caribbean
sun.

Best of luck.

Gary Silver, Amel SM335


Re: LED light bulbs

svbebe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Hi Mark,

We are in your wake and currently in New Zealand...will be in
Australia in June.

We installed both of the same bulbs in the tricolor and they work as
advertised.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe - Currently - Auckland
SM2 #387

--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, "markmpitt" <mark_pitt@...> wrote:

I bought these from West Marine, or you can buy them direct from Dr.
Led (www.doctorled.com):

Replaces Aqua Signal #90003 (24V), Hella #78291 (24V) DR. LED
8001542 $49.99 USD
Replaces Aqua Signal #90003 (24V) for tri-color stacks DR. LED
8001436 $59.99 USD

I have not installed them yet but they are suppposed to be direct
replacements for the tri-color and anchor lights on my ASM.

Where did you get the 24V cabin LED bulbs? Are they drop-in
replacements or did you have to add an adaptor? I would like to save
some generator time if I could. I am adding solar panels for the
upcoming season.

Mark Pitt
S/V Sabbatical III hull#419, currently in Australia


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, john martin <symoondog@> wrote:


I've changed most of my interior light bulbs to LED, and its really
helped on the battery consumption. Can anyone tell me the name of the
tri color masthead unit or the bulb I would need?. I'm returning to
the boat in April and would like to take one with me. Thanks
John "Moon dog" SM248
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Re: LED light bulbs

Mark Pitt
 

I bought these from West Marine, or you can buy them direct from Dr.
Led (www.doctorled.com):

Replaces Aqua Signal #90003 (24V), Hella #78291 (24V) DR. LED
8001542 $49.99 USD
Replaces Aqua Signal #90003 (24V) for tri-color stacks DR. LED
8001436 $59.99 USD

I have not installed them yet but they are suppposed to be direct
replacements for the tri-color and anchor lights on my ASM.

Where did you get the 24V cabin LED bulbs? Are they drop-in
replacements or did you have to add an adaptor? I would like to save
some generator time if I could. I am adding solar panels for the
upcoming season.

Mark Pitt
S/V Sabbatical III hull#419, currently in Australia


--- In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, john martin <symoondog@...> wrote:


I've changed most of my interior light bulbs to LED, and its really
helped on the battery consumption. Can anyone tell me the name of the
tri color masthead unit or the bulb I would need?. I'm returning to
the boat in April and would like to take one with me. Thanks
John "Moon dog" SM248
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Re: [Amel] Chartplotters, upgrading electronics

dlm48@...
 

Interesting since are you the oldest old salt here i come from a time of RDF (an electronic aid to make sure you were really lost) and 'perhaps' if rich enough Decca and yes a lead line too.

Sadly people now 'KNOW' or think they know where they are - at least in the old days i knew where i was not and was always constantly looking for signs to tell me where i was.

The only real help i had of course was a paper chart which may not have been accurate to the nth degree especially in the way of its position in a GPS mapped world - but in relation to the dangerous 'bits' was the help i was seeking. For sure it was considered gospel and only needed updating when things changed under the influence of man.

I know of at least one boat that hit a very famous rock in Scotland because it was not on his electronic chart - things are too easy now pre staring a passage we dont sit down and pore over a chart and plot in a few possible courses pencil in tidal streams work out high and low water times and highlight dangers.

Its a click click process now switch on the plotter and gosh there is our boat exactly where we expect it to be - tidal heights are shown phases of the moon, date and time, air temperature, water temperature, wind speed and direction, boat speed, speed over the ground, course/heading, and course over the ground, depth, the number of fish hiding beneath the boat, and of course most importantly whether it is your Mothers birthday - so we are 'minded' to believe this electronic box 100% forgetting that is us that have the brains and it is us that must evaluate the risks and look for and list the 'possible' dangers on the passage.

On a long passage i am sure reading a book is much more fun - unless of course you have missed your mothers birthday that would be very worrying. And yes i maybe the ancient mariner but she is even older (somewhat unsurprisingly)

regards

David

-----Original Message-----
From: John and Anne Hollamby <annejohn@melita.net.mt>
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 2:54 pm
Subject: [Amel] Chartplotters, upgrading electronics






Hello Kent,

As I am probably the oldest old salt on this forum I hope you will forgive me for preaching to the converted! Modern electronics have a few characteristics which need to be borne in mind. One is that many ships and yotties use the fairway buoys as their starting and destination as waypoints and set their autopilots to "track". The problem with this is that this keeps them in a narrow channel thus ensuring that vessels meet each other en route so the prudent yottie will avoid this unnecessary hazard by having safer waypoints.

Electronic charting means that one may change the scale very easily and one has to be aware that hazards may or may not be shown on the small scale that may be set for passage making. For example one might use a very small scale on a long passage so that one can see the destination.

The October Yachting Monthly contains a report about the loss of Asolare,an Amel 54, on Moore Reef, some 52 miles NW of Willis Island on his route from Vanuatu to Cairns whilst he was participating in the World ARC Rally. There were two persons on board and as the Insurance with Pantaenius specified that there should always be three persons insurers used this fact to reject the claim even though that it had no bearing on the disaster. The owner was seventy years old and had some 50 years experience.

It appears that his electronic charts, supplied by Jeppeson in 2007, did not show the reef which was clearly marked on earlier versions of C Map. The report says that as he closed the Australian coast he changed from his passage chart to two coastal charts for the approach to Cairns and he says that the reef was not shown on either chart adding that it was actually on bottom of one and the top of the other. I do not understand this comment as C Map charts are seamless. Perhaps a slow chartplotter would not be seamless when moving from one chart to another? He was also carrying all the relevant paper charts.

I have looked at Moore Reef on my 2002 version of C Map. The reef is at about 15deg55'S and 149deg15E and is not shown on the scale 1/10mllion nor the 1/2.5m scales but is on the 1/1m scale.

The problem with answering your question about which is the best gear is that most of us have only experienced with one system and, I suppose, are happy with it. In my case I have an old laptop, circa 1998,with a 33mhz Celeron processor and a 12"screen, which we got originally to use with a Sat C transceiver. Even this is probably much faster than the processor in most chart plotters and the one in a modern laptop would be infinitely faster. This sits on a non slip mat on the chart table and I suppose that one could have a PC in a locker and have a larger monitor on the top or even on a USB cable up to the cockpit when entering harbour etc. This however does not give you the advantage of an integrated radar display although an AIS engine would show most other large vessels.

We have just flown back from visiting Opua in New Zealand where we met the owner of my last boat, an Oyster 435 who has just installed a small chart plotter above the steering wheel. The screen was so small that I was unable to demonstrate the Moore Reef problem in the time available perhaps because he was unfamiliar with the thing.

Pre GPS one did not know ones exact position for extended periods and nowadays people seem to expect to know where they are 24/7 even though the equipment uses up power.



I hope this helps, best wishes from Anne and John. SM319


LED light bulbs

john martin <symoondog@...>
 

I've changed most of my interior light bulbs to LED, and its really helped on the battery consumption. Can anyone tell me the name of the tri color masthead unit or the bulb I would need?. I'm returning to the boat in April and would like to take one with me. Thanks John "Moon dog" SM248
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Chartplotters, upgrading electronics

John and Anne Hollamby <annejohn@...>
 

Hello Kent,
As I am probably the oldest old salt on this forum I hope you will forgive me for preaching to the converted! Modern electronics have a few characteristics which need to be borne in mind. One is that many ships and yotties use the fairway buoys as their starting and destination as waypoints and set their autopilots to "track". The problem with this is that this keeps them in a narrow channel thus ensuring that vessels meet each other en route so the prudent yottie will avoid this unnecessary hazard by having safer waypoints.
Electronic charting means that one may change the scale very easily and one has to be aware that hazards may or may not be shown on the small scale that may be set for passage making. For example one might use a very small scale on a long passage so that one can see the destination.
The October Yachting Monthly contains a report about the loss of Asolare,an Amel 54, on Moore Reef, some 52 miles NW of Willis Island on his route from Vanuatu to Cairns whilst he was participating in the World ARC Rally. There were two persons on board and as the Insurance with Pantaenius specified that there should always be three persons insurers used this fact to reject the claim even though that it had no bearing on the disaster. The owner was seventy years old and had some 50 years experience.
It appears that his electronic charts, supplied by Jeppeson in 2007, did not show the reef which was clearly marked on earlier versions of C Map. The report says that as he closed the Australian coast he changed from his passage chart to two coastal charts for the approach to Cairns and he says that the reef was not shown on either chart adding that it was actually on bottom of one and the top of the other. I do not understand this comment as C Map charts are seamless. Perhaps a slow chartplotter would not be seamless when moving from one chart to another? He was also carrying all the relevant paper charts.
I have looked at Moore Reef on my 2002 version of C Map. The reef is at about 15deg55'S and 149deg15E and is not shown on the scale 1/10mllion nor the 1/2.5m scales but is on the 1/1m scale.
The problem with answering your question about which is the best gear is that most of us have only experienced with one system and, I suppose, are happy with it. In my case I have an old laptop, circa 1998,with a 33mhz Celeron processor and a 12"screen, which we got originally to use with a Sat C transceiver. Even this is probably much faster than the processor in most chart plotters and the one in a modern laptop would be infinitely faster. This sits on a non slip mat on the chart table and I suppose that one could have a PC in a locker and have a larger monitor on the top or even on a USB cable up to the cockpit when entering harbour etc. This however does not give you the advantage of an integrated radar display although an AIS engine would show most other large vessels.
We have just flown back from visiting Opua in New Zealand where we met the owner of my last boat, an Oyster 435 who has just installed a small chart plotter above the steering wheel. The screen was so small that I was unable to demonstrate the Moore Reef problem in the time available perhaps because he was unfamiliar with the thing.
Pre GPS one did not know ones exact position for extended periods and nowadays people seem to expect to know where they are 24/7 even though the equipment uses up power.

I hope this helps, best wishes from Anne and John. SM319


Re: [Amel] Upgrading Electronics

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

We changed to a new chart plotter, GPS, SSB, digital VHF about a two years ago. We used all Furuno because first we wanted a very good 2kW radar and two we prefer the C-Map plotter software. We also have a second GPS setup to with a switch to allow an either or operation as backup.. We did most of the work on our own and hired Peter Waterson from North Carolina for some of the tech startup... We went with the small screen but most likely should have gone with the 8" screen.. buy it from defender in Ct for the best prices.
good luck
Richard on Challenge SM 209

--- On Sun, 1/18/09, karkauai <karkauai@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: karkauai <karkauai@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Amel] Upgrading Electronics
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 18, 2009, 12:52 PM

















Ahoy, all,

I'm considering adding a chart-plotter to my
electronics and hoped

you "old salts" could give me some thoughts on
what you are using...

user-friendliness, compatibility with ?standard? Amel
packages,

availability of service, and anything else you consider
important in

choosing one of these systems.



I've only done paper-chart navigation with GPS backup,
and trying to

read about these systems without actually using them is
like reading

them "en Francaise" (-;



Thanks in advance for whatever help you can offer.

Kent

1999SM "Kristy", previously
"Enchantment"






























Re: [Amel] Re: Lofrans Tigres switch

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Those buttons are available at most marine stores in Europe but I have yet to see one here in the US/Canada. You may be able to get them via Amel.. We replaced ours with a short threaded button and used silsacon to seal it. It worked for a few years then we did the same replacement.. We also kept the windlase covered as much as we could...
If anyone buys a new windlase keep in mind that you will have to drill a slot in the "rope" wheel for the nut that holds the counter slug..
All the best Richard and Joan on Challenge

--- On Mon, 1/19/09, rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@gmail.com> wrote:

From: rossirossix4 <rossidesigngroup@gmail.com>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Lofrans Tigres switch
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:58 AM

















--- In amelyachtowners@
yahoogroups. com, "maramu48" <maramu48@..
.> wrote:

Does anyone have a source, or know the brand/
model#, for the switch

ON TOP of the Maramu's Lofrans Tigres windlass
casing? We need a new

switch and rubber cup.
I spoke with Jim Thomas at Imtra in New Bedford,MA,
said the Tigres

was never made with a switch in the casing; that it
must have been

modified by a French distributor or Amel; that he had
fielded the same

question before, and has no source.
Amel will sell you replacements. I also found a very
similar button

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Re: {Disarmed} [Amel] Lofrans Tigres switch

John and Anne Hollamby <annejohn@...>
 

Hello whoever you are,
Please put msg 3880 in the search box which deals with the subject of this abortion. The actual switch used is similar to the engine stop switch used by Yanmar on my SM2000 except that the one used by Cochon has a step on the securing nut which would centre the switch if they had drilled the right size hole in the casing.

Regards, Anne and John, SM319

----- Original Message -----
From: maramu48
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 5:38 PM
Subject: {Disarmed} [Amel] Lofrans Tigres switch


Does anyone have a source, or know the brand/ model#, for the switch
ON TOP of the Maramu's Lofrans Tigres windlass casing? We need a new
switch and rubber cup.
I spoke with Jim Thomas at Imtra in New Bedford,MA, said the Tigres
was never made with a switch in the casing; that it must have been
modified by a French distributor or Amel; that he had fielded the same
question before, and has no source.






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