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Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi all,

I have  Furuno GP90 with wrong date and this summer it was working properly but only the date. I’m planning to install a GP39 with  an intermediate box ( local Furuno dealer support) to connect (different plugs cables) the device to the actual navnet network as before with GP90. Note: my GP90 display has humidity inside, so…

In doubt for my AIS ICOM MA 500TR (this summer it was fine and now I’m not on board) I asked to ICOM UK if may I have any problem with new update rollover. Answer: no news about and , any way, with wrong date there is no problem for the system (CPA, TCPA, ecc). Only wrong date.

Buon Vento

Giovanni Testa

Sv Eutikia SM2K 428

Preveza (GR)



Il 13/01/2022 15:18, CW Bill Rouse ha scritto:
Alan,

I experienced the "Frist Rollover" with Y2k and the Furuno GP-80 in a SM. The reboot solved everything except the date and the date was not used with any of my connected devices which included AIS "B." At the time I was using OpenCPN for chart plotting and it was not affected.

Bill


On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 7:26 PM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Hi Peter,

The GP-39 is available here in Australia from a number of chandlers.
Some big differences to GP-90 - it's a lot smaller, so you'll need to reduce the size of the hole, and it has only one NMEA0183 port and one USB port so you'll have to reconfigure how you send the GPS signal to the devices your GP-90 is connected to.
 
I'm curious about this date rollover issue.
According to Furuno, a cold start will reset the device and the position information will be correct, but it will display the wrong date.
Correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but I don't think the date is actually used by anything my GP-90 GPS is connected to.
UTC is contained in some NMEA0183 sentences, RMB for example, but is this calculated in the Furuno, or does it come from the satellites?
I don't know the answer to that and I can't get to the boat to see what effect this wrong date has.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

Alan,

I experienced the "Frist Rollover" with Y2k and the Furuno GP-80 in a SM. The reboot solved everything except the date and the date was not used with any of my connected devices which included AIS "B." At the time I was using OpenCPN for chart plotting and it was not affected.

Bill


On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 7:26 PM Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:
Hi Peter,

The GP-39 is available here in Australia from a number of chandlers.
Some big differences to GP-90 - it's a lot smaller, so you'll need to reduce the size of the hole, and it has only one NMEA0183 port and one USB port so you'll have to reconfigure how you send the GPS signal to the devices your GP-90 is connected to.
 
I'm curious about this date rollover issue.
According to Furuno, a cold start will reset the device and the position information will be correct, but it will display the wrong date.
Correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but I don't think the date is actually used by anything my GP-90 GPS is connected to.
UTC is contained in some NMEA0183 sentences, RMB for example, but is this calculated in the Furuno, or does it come from the satellites?
I don't know the answer to that and I can't get to the boat to see what effect this wrong date has.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Scott SV Tengah
 

Every boat is setup differently, but our GP-150 feeds our VHF and SSB (when we had it connected). I presume if you send a DSC distress call, there is a timestamp on it. I know for a fact that my connected iCOM vhf displays the incorrect date.

 

For the AIS, it simply stops transmitting when it gets an invalid timestamp, as mentioned before. Cannot coldstart the FA-50 to fix it.

 

I would believe that since GPS is a source of very-very-very precise time, most devices that receive GPS (either directly or through NMEA sentences) would use GPS time information to set the device time versus have a secondary clock that is subject to drift.

 

I know that with the Garmin devices that have the rollover issue, the problem is that gps signal gets weak and then can show incorrect position data. Seems this rollover bug creates unpredictable issues. Best solution is to google your devices and see if they have any issues with the rollover bug, Furuno or not.

 

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 3:26 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

Hi Peter,

The GP-39 is available here in Australia from a number of chandlers.
Some big differences to GP-90 - it's a lot smaller, so you'll need to reduce the size of the hole, and it has only one NMEA0183 port and one USB port so you'll have to reconfigure how you send the GPS signal to the devices your GP-90 is connected to.
 
I'm curious about this date rollover issue.
According to Furuno, a cold start will reset the device and the position information will be correct, but it will display the wrong date.
Correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but I don't think the date is actually used by anything my GP-90 GPS is connected to.
UTC is contained in some NMEA0183 sentences, RMB for example, but is this calculated in the Furuno, or does it come from the satellites?
I don't know the answer to that and I can't get to the boat to see what effect this wrong date has.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Peter,

The GP-39 is available here in Australia from a number of chandlers.
Some big differences to GP-90 - it's a lot smaller, so you'll need to reduce the size of the hole, and it has only one NMEA0183 port and one USB port so you'll have to reconfigure how you send the GPS signal to the devices your GP-90 is connected to.
 
I'm curious about this date rollover issue.
According to Furuno, a cold start will reset the device and the position information will be correct, but it will display the wrong date.
Correct me if I'm wrong anyone, but I don't think the date is actually used by anything my GP-90 GPS is connected to.
UTC is contained in some NMEA0183 sentences, RMB for example, but is this calculated in the Furuno, or does it come from the satellites?
I don't know the answer to that and I can't get to the boat to see what effect this wrong date has.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Mystery part Any ideas?

Christian Sloane
 

That logo is from goiot that makes hatches portholes etc….I know from having just bought a bunch 🤣. Not sure what the piece is, though. 

Christian
ESCAPADES
SM #350
Currently in HOLLYWOOD, FL




On Jan 12, 2022, at 2:56 PM, Courtney Gorman via groups.io <Itsfun1@...> wrote:

 Maybe something for a seagull water filtration system due to the seagull on the knob


On Jan 12, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Hello all, well after 4 years of owning my Amel Mango I have not figures out what this part goes to. Any ideas? (BTW I already checked and it does not fit on the "Flux Capacitor")


Re: Mystery part Any ideas?

Courtney Gorman
 

Maybe something for a seagull water filtration system due to the seagull on the knob


On Jan 12, 2022, at 5:00 PM, Arlo <svplanb@...> wrote:

Hello all, well after 4 years of owning my Amel Mango I have not figures out what this part goes to. Any ideas? (BTW I already checked and it does not fit on the "Flux Capacitor")


Mystery part Any ideas?

Arlo Bess
 

Hello all, well after 4 years of owning my Amel Mango I have not figures out what this part goes to. Any ideas? (BTW I already checked and it does not fit on the "Flux Capacitor")


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Pierre Blouin
 

For those interested.  Furuno is offering to update FW for free on the FA-50 (probably for other impacted units which have a FW fix available).  I know this isn't practical for a lot of folks but I thought of sharing for those folks who live closer.  Furuno USA is located in Vancouver, WA. you can drop in or ship your unit to them, they'll update it for free.

Pierre Blouin
SV Viva, 
Portland, OR
SM#374


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Peter Forbes
 

Good day Amel owners,

Just one owners experience of this roll over GP 90 FURUNO.

Amel 54 #035 Carango has a GP90. The local Furuno rep here is Greenham Regis Lymington.

They tell me the GP90 is no longer supported and have sold me a GP39 for replacement at UK £290. OK bad but not disastrous.

BUT delivery of GP39 promised for DECEMBER 2022!!!!

unbelievable.

Peter Forbes
Carango Amel 54 035 @ Lymington UK
07836 209730

On 12 Jan 2022, at 15:24, Billy Newport <billy@...> wrote:

Just looking at Coder (Amel 55#56).

My SC30 wasn't impacted, the date time from that is still correct.

My GP33 is impacted and as a result the VHF radio shows the wrong time but correct GPS. I need a RS232 cable bodged to NMEA184 to do this so can't for now.

I updated my FA50. I had my PC attached to ethernet, configured the IP address. Turn off WIFI, make sure your PC is just connected using ethernet. Make sure RADAR is on. Run the nupf batch file then cycle the RADAR switch, this turns off the FA50 and turns it on again. The batch program will then do an update twice. I confirmed it's now transmitting using marine traffic and the silent switch at my nav table still works.

Billy


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Billy Newport
 

Just looking at Coder (Amel 55#56).

My SC30 wasn't impacted, the date time from that is still correct.

My GP33 is impacted and as a result the VHF radio shows the wrong time but correct GPS. I need a RS232 cable bodged to NMEA184 to do this so can't for now.

I updated my FA50. I had my PC attached to ethernet, configured the IP address. Turn off WIFI, make sure your PC is just connected using ethernet. Make sure RADAR is on. Run the nupf batch file then cycle the RADAR switch, this turns off the FA50 and turns it on again. The batch program will then do an update twice. I confirmed it's now transmitting using marine traffic and the silent switch at my nav table still works.

Billy


Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?

Joerg Esdorn
 

Right, Arno.  That’s what I was looking at.  Cheers Joerg 


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Jose Venegas
 

Dear Manspeter:
You are strictly correct about my error calling 50 amp shore power outlets as 60amp outlets in 110 V Marinas. (actually 110-115 v and 220-24 v to be exact)
Also, I erroneously wrote that American Marinas run 110v 3 Phase current, when this is only true in a few marinas.   What I meant was that in the 110 V world, marinas get their power from the power company in 3 phases and they take two phases a ground and the neutral to each 50amp shore power outlet. .  Boats using 110 v 50 amp outlets connect to one of the two live phases and the neutral.  Boats needing 220 v power connect both the life and the neutral cables from the boat to the two live (hot) wires to get 220 v .  So, in the 110 v world the statement from the marina electrician: ("I cannot find a safe way to make 230volts, without turning your neutral side live". )  Is strictly correct since you no longer have live and neutral cables but two live cables.   However, connecting the neutral cable from the boat to the live second phase of the shore power is done on pretty much all 110V marinas in the US without consequences as long as you don't connect the neutral cable to the ground which would create an instant short circuit. ( Connecting the Victron inverter requires that you cut  the connection between ground and neutral. 
 In addition, this 220V 60 Hz AC power can run safely all the equipment (Including the old Dolphin and the new Mastervolt (60 and 100 amp battery chargers that I replaced the for) except the cloth and dishwashing machines and the microwave oven because of the needed 50Hz

 To avoid the problem of running these appliances in a 60 hz marina, I disconnected them from their outlets and connect them, one at a time to the output of a true sine-wave 2kw 24 v dc to 220 v 50 Hz inverter that came with the boat.  When at anchor I connect my newly installed 5kw Victron 50Hz inverter to a third outlet that I installed on the “white box” to select 220 v direct from shore power or 110-transformed  to 220v that came with the boat from the factory for the first American owner.   

There are three main advantages of having an inverter and independent battery chargers over installing an inverter/charger:  1) You can charge your batteries with 60 Hz shore power and run the 3 special appliances with the inverter at 50Hz.  2) you can replace and leave the battery chargers in the engine room using the existing AC wiring and DC cables to the batteries with minimal surgery,  and 3) you can install the inverter in a cool place close to the batteries and bring only its output (220V 50Hz) via a single three-wire cable to the engine compartment in order to connect it to the input powering all appliances and outlets of the boat as I described in a recent post.
 
Happy new year
 
Jose Venegas 
Ipanema SM2k 278
 


Re: GPS Rollover

bernard lawson
 

it's apparently a safety bulletin?


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

Porter McRoberts
 

Happily. I’ll send. 
He took about 15 restarts in both his laptop and the GP150 before the update would go through. And then it did. Like finding the hammer in the drawer on the 15th look. 



Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS 
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206
Www.fouribis.net

On Jan 12, 2022, at 6:09 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


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On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:09 AM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Did he charge for this service ?

Mind giving me his contact info? I have the software and instructions for the gp150 and the data cable for data4, but am having trouble getting the update software to connect to the gp150.



On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 22:28 Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes Scott correct on both points. We have the 150 and successfully reprogrammed. And we had a software option to change the transmit to silence mode which we no longer have. 



Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

On Jan 11, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:



Porter,

 

You have the GP-150 and he successfully reprogrammed it?

 

For the FA-50, I always had the hard switch. My understanding was that the software “silent mode” was not available on the FA-50, even prior to the update.

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Porter McRoberts via groups.io" <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:15 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

We just had furuno Brisbane reprogram both the GPS and the AIS. Interesting note. No longer to silence the AIS using software, which was important to us on rare occasion.  The tech gave me the wiring diagram for the power wire to the GPS which allows a hard silencing: close the circuit between the purple and grey wires= AIS silent mode. 

 

 

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Also date is correct after his reprogramming. 

 

 

Happy sailing, 

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152

WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206



On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Myfuruno gp 32 gps and my furino chart plotter have gone to May 2002 date. Position is OK on both as I have external aerials. ENL the NZ distributors for furuno say the date cannt be corrected and (what a surprise) recommend a replacement as the solution. Pity  abuse I like my old fashio I have a newer furuno VX 2 as my radar. Will see if I  an patch the date from that. It talks to the plotter and I can full or split screen  the radar to the plotter.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 11/01/2022 09:51 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

 

 

I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;)  A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.

Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect.

FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

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On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:09 AM Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:
Did he charge for this service ?

Mind giving me his contact info? I have the software and instructions for the gp150 and the data cable for data4, but am having trouble getting the update software to connect to the gp150.



On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 22:28 Porter McRoberts via groups.io <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Yes Scott correct on both points. We have the 150 and successfully reprogrammed. And we had a software option to change the transmit to silence mode which we no longer have. 



Porter McRoberts 
S/V IBIS A54-152
WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206

On Jan 11, 2022, at 6:03 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:



Porter,

 

You have the GP-150 and he successfully reprogrammed it?

 

For the FA-50, I always had the hard switch. My understanding was that the software “silent mode” was not available on the FA-50, even prior to the update.

 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of "Porter McRoberts via groups.io" <portermcroberts=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Monday, January 10, 2022 at 8:15 PM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Check your GPS / AIS devices. Some of them failed on Jan 2, 2022 due to the "GPS Rollover" bug

 

We just had furuno Brisbane reprogram both the GPS and the AIS. Interesting note. No longer to silence the AIS using software, which was important to us on rare occasion.  The tech gave me the wiring diagram for the power wire to the GPS which allows a hard silencing: close the circuit between the purple and grey wires= AIS silent mode. 

 

 

<image.png>

 

 

Also date is correct after his reprogramming. 

 

 

Happy sailing, 

Porter McRoberts 

S/V IBIS A54-152

WhatsApp:+1 754 265 2206



On Jan 11, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:



Myfuruno gp 32 gps and my furino chart plotter have gone to May 2002 date. Position is OK on both as I have external aerials. ENL the NZ distributors for furuno say the date cannt be corrected and (what a surprise) recommend a replacement as the solution. Pity  abuse I like my old fashio I have a newer furuno VX 2 as my radar. Will see if I  an patch the date from that. It talks to the plotter and I can full or split screen  the radar to the plotter.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 11/01/2022 09:51 Scott SV Tengah <scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

 

 

I successfully updated my FA-50 AIS. Had to make a crossover ethernet cable since we don't have a hub onboard and the tiny shops on the remote South Pacific atolls are out of fresh vegetables and don't seem to carry crossover ethernet cables, either. ;)  A bit of splicing + turning off windows firewall and I was able to update our FA-50.

Do you have the GP-150? I cannot connect to it to update it. I have the serial output on Data4 enabled with a DB9 output and then connected to a DB9-USB converter. I have been using that for years to provide GPS data to my computer, but I can't get the Furuno update software to connect.

FYI - We know a SM with Garmin and they have been blissfully unaware that they may have been transmitting erroneous AIS position information since 2019. It is not a Furuno specific bug. It's easy to remain unaware that your reported position is missing or incorrect. 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Matt & Michelle
 

Baomain Universal Rotary Changeover Cam Switch SZW26-63/D303.3D 660V 63A 3 Position 3 Phase with Master Switch Exterior Box LW28-63/4
(can be obtained on Amazon, or a chandlery for 4X as much; BlueSea also makes similar switches)

Another option I thought about was feeding the shore power input to two 32A breakers in parallel.  To do so, I would need a junction box.  Well, the switch is effectively a junction box...so why make things more complicated.  I only mention it in case you are remote and cannot get a rotary switch.
 

Hope the info is helpful.

Matt


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Scott SV Tengah
 

Great solution that's more elegant than my intended manual rewiring. Can you post a link to the switch you used?


On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:29 AM Matt & Michelle Day, SM#208 SV Talia <charlesmatthewday@...> wrote:
Scott,

Our Quattro, installed last October, functions as you stated with reference to frequency.  Our solution is similar, we installed a Skylla-IP65 24/35 120-240V charger with a high capacity switch at the 30A shore power breaker.  We can then charge with the Skylla (bypassing the Quattro input), and use the Quattro to invert supplying 50Hz.

Matt
SM208
SV Talia 

 

 


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Matt & Michelle
 

Scott,

Our Quattro, installed last October, functions as you stated with reference to frequency.  Our solution is similar, we installed a Skylla-IP65 24/35 120-240V charger with a high capacity switch at the 30A shore power breaker.  We can then charge with the Skylla (bypassing the Quattro input), and use the Quattro to invert supplying 50Hz.

Matt
SM208
SV Talia 

 

 


Re: From 230V to 120V #alignment

Scott SV Tengah
 

Absolutely right.

 

I asked my high level Victron contact if I could have my 2018 vintage Quattro take 240v/60hz shore power and just use it to charge, but NOT pass it through. He said “no”. Maybe the newer Victrons or maybe the Mastervolts can do that?

As mentioned, our solution is to charge for an hour or two and even with AC running, we’re good for almost 24 hours on battery. Then plug back in to charge them back up and repeat.

 

Not the most elegant solution, but we have not and do not anticipate staying in marinas that much. If we did at some point and want to be really lazy, I’ll probably just rewire so 60hz shore power ONLY goes to our secondary Skylla 80 amp charger and have that charge all day and then just run everything off the 50hz producing Quattro inverter.


 

From: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Dan Carlson <carlsdan61@...>
Reply-To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 6:05 AM
To: "main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io" <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] From 230V to 120V #alignment

 

Another important "watch-out" if you have a Victron Multi-Plus.  Even if you have set the inverter to produce 50hz power, if the inverter "sees" the shore power frequency on the 240v input side of the device it will synchronize to that 60hz frequency. So double check if you are on shore power that your inverter circuit is still on the right frequency! 

 

Dan Carlson on sv BeBe, sm # 387

 

On Thu, Jan 6, 2022, 10:28 PM JB Duler <jbduler@...> wrote:

Bertrand, keep in mind that a simple transformer will not deal with frequency. In france you have 50Hz, and it is 60Hz in the US and other parts of the world. So electronics won't work (washing machine, microwave,etc...). A simple coffee machine will work.
You may just be better off using your inverter providing 220v/50Hz and charging batteries with the generator/solar.
Check your charger, if it is a new one it may be able to accept 110v (but you may have to run a different cable).
good luck
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Should I Refit a Furuno or choose a B&G plotter?

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Joerg,

Here is the software update log for the autopilot

Cheers,

Arno