--- On Thu, 5/5/11, John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...> wrote:


From: John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
Subject: [Amel] Super Maramu Furling Gear
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Thursday, 5, May, 2011, 9:37 PM


 



The bronze gear wheel in my furling gear is badly worn almost certainly because I have been very bad at coming head to wind whist furling etc thus putting a heavy load on the gears. I am trying to get replacements but they want the details off the plate on the gearbox. There is no plate on mine. Can anyone help? I also will have a problem with the special grease that they specify as here in Malta I can only find it in one litre cans costing 190 euros and I think that I only need about 200 grams to fill both boxes.

Regards, John, SM 319

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svsummerlove" <svsummerlove@...> wrote:

Lorenzo,

When we bought our boat, the previous owner told us to only use the dryer cycle if we liked to wear hot, damp, very wrinkled clothes. We tried it once or twice, but found that it's virtually useless. It certainly isn't worth spending a lot of time, money and effort to fix.

Steve and Donna
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "ferruccilorenzo" <ferruccilorenzo@> wrote:

Hello, I'm going crazy behind the washer dryer: Do not over dry clothes.

The drying cycle begins, but after 2 hours I take off my clothes in the same wet way, and even cold.
Does anyone have any ideas or experience with this? In Italy I can not find assistance Thomson ...



Ps are you satisfied with this dryer, when working properly?


Thanks a lot, Lorenzo.

SM2K #420 Red Passion

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "John Hollamby" <annejohnholl@...> wrote:

The furling motors and gearboxes on the Super Maramu are made by Leroy Somers which is,I believe a subsidiary of an American company. The gear boxes are Minibloc MVA and the bronze gear driven by the worm has a limited life.To see if the kit on a Maramu refer to Files and furling gear where Ameliona has posted the maintenance instructions and these should enable you to see if the Maramu gearbox is the same. My boat has been used for about four months a year for ten years and the bronze gear wheels on both furlers are severely worn. There are two problems in this,one is getting replacement gears and the second is finding the right grease to refill the gearbox.There is a post listing the replacement bearings and oil seals but the bearings should be fine as their actual running time is minimal. The O rings are 71 or 70mm inside diameter by 2mm. The brushes on my motors are about 50% worn. I just had mine both serviced and it was quite expensive because although I gave them the instructions they did not read them and on return one leaked oil so I had to open it up to find that it was filled with oil not grease,they had replaced all the bearings but not all the oilseals (luckily) so I was able to see their rotten work and start trying to access the parts. There is also a post which names the right guy to get help/spares in the States but I have not done a search to find it as I am in Europe so I am contacting the UK agent listed on Leroy's website.
If you do stick with inmast furling and are getting a new main specify vertical battens and much less negative roach to get a bigger and less ugly main.

Regards, Anne and John, Bali Hai, SM 319

--- In amelyachtowners@..., karkauai@... wrote:

Hi Peter. I own SM243 so I can't comment on the older furling systems. I can however comment on the robustness of Amel systems. If the furling gear is maintained it should last a long long time. As for furling vs slab reefing...I'll never go back to slab. It's so easy to reef and all from in the cockpit that I know I'm safer with the furler. It does require paying attn to the boom angle and watching the sail enter the mast to avoid having it bunch up and bind. Sail shape isn't ideal, but we're cruising not racing.

I was skeptical at first, but I am totally sold now. Try it, you'll like it.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Alltel

----- Original Message -----
From: eric derek
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Lewmar Safety Notice and Lifting Accident with Crewmember of an Amel 54




this appears to be a tragic situation with little information.

The only suggsstuio i can add is that we always have at least 3 people
on deck when we hoist someone aloft.

the person going aloft is hoisted on the spinnaker halyard, we use the
balooner halyard as a backup to the spin halyard and that person is on
the balooner halyard attached to one of the larger mast winches, hand
tailing.

we replaced the balooner halyard with vecrtan, so we can hoist a storm
sail on the halyard. the balooner halyard is not strong enough for that.

the second person is on the primary winch with a clear view of the
person aloft with the halyard in the jaws and the tail of the halyard in
their hand. the third person is on the button.
it is almost impossible to see someone aloft if you are just looking
fron the button position
Fair winds,
eric

On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS wrote:

All good Steve, nice to catch up with you.
Danny

--- On Mon, 2/5/11, svsummerlove < svsummerlove@...
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wrote:

From: svsummerlove < svsummerlove@...
<javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('svsummerlove@...')> >
Subject: [Amel] Re: Lewmar Safety Notice and Lifting Accident with
Crewmember of an Amel 54
To: amelyachtowners@...
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Date: Monday, 2, May, 2011, 4:53 AM



Danny,

Judging from Joel's account of the Yachting World article and what we
already knew from our friends, it's unlikely someone got caught in the
rigging. If I had to guess, the winch did not stop for some reason.
Hopefully, the investigation will answer why.

Sorry to have implied the smaller person should always be the one to go
aloft. Poor wording on my part. What I meant was the stronger and
usually more technically experienced is not in a position to help.

You've worked around machinery all your life, so you're well aware of
how easily things can go south if someone accidentally gets caught in
it.

We don't use the power winches or the windlass to go aloft for that
reason. I climb the mast manually using an ATN top climber. It's slow
and hard work, but I'm in control of my own destiny. I have a separate
halyard attached to a climbing harness, equipped with a climbers descent
system in case of malfunction. Donna only needs to take up the slack on
the backup halyard on the mast winch. It doesn't make it foolproof, but
it takes some of the things I can't control out of the equation. Going
aloft is dangerous enough as it is, without having to depend on
electrical components not failing or malfunctioning.

I don't feel comfortable clinging unsupported to the mast while things
are sorted out below, but that's just my own comfort level. It's not my
place or right to judge what is safe for others, and I apologize for
that inference. It is, I think though, my option to be concerned and
worried about the health and safety of my friends. :-)

Hope all is well with you and Yvonne too.

All our best,

Steve and Donna
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@...
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, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve. Obviously I am missing something here, the person operating
> the electric winch which requires holding down a button continues to
> hold the button down while her arm is torn off??? Or was second person
> holding the button down and continued to do so despite the screams
> from the trapped person? I can envisage the person in the bosuns chair
> losing a limb if it was caught under the shrouds and the wincher just
> held that button down. Steve as to the smaller hoisting the larger,
> there is no way my smaller is going up the mast so there is no choice
> in my case. An over lay... easy, I just take my weight by holding the
> mast until it is cleared. Hope all is well with you and Donna. Regards
> Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl Â
> --- On Sun, 1/5/11, svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...> wrote:
>
> From: svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...> Subject: [Amel] Re: Lewmar
> Safety Notice and Lifting Accident with Crewmember of an Amel 54 To:
> amelyachtowners@...
> <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('amelyachtowners@...')>
> Date: Sunday, 1, May, 2011, 12:33 AM
>
> Â
>
>
> We had been made aware of this accident by another cruiser, who knew
> the couple involved personally, shortly after it occurred. Joel's
> account is accurate. She lost one arm at the scene and was airlifted
> to the US. The other arm has undergone extensive surgery. She is not
> expected to regain the use of her remaining hand.
> I had asked permission through our mutual friend to post the details
> on this site (including the names of the boat and those involved). Her
> email was not returned, but with what was going on in her friends'
> lives right now, it's quite understandable this would not be their
> priority. I was trying to find out if the cause was due to mechanical
> malfunction, human error, bad luck, combination of all, etc.
> There are two procedures I see quite often done by otherwise very
> safety-conscious, experienced cruisers, that scare the hell out of me.
> One is standing up in a dinghy while underway to avoid "getting wet",
> and the other is the smaller person on board using the power winches
> to hoist the larger one aloft. Think about it! Who's going to help if
> something even as simple as an over-wrap occurs? How do you get down
> from the top of the mast while your partner is lying in the cockpit
> with no arms bleeding to death? As this event proves, it's only a
> matter of time until something really bad happens..
> Steve SM340 Summer Love
> --- In amelyachtowners@...
> <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('amelyachtowners@...')>
> , Joel Potter <jfpottercys@> wrote:
>>
>> I read in May Yachting World, British magazine, that a woman was
>> putting her husband up the mast with a primary cockpit winch and got
>> her arm caught and,literally, torn off. Her other arm was very badly
>> mangled and a passer-by had several fingers torn off trying to help.
>> This report is from memory, a failing resource, so it is accurate but
>> not complete.
>> Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist. Amel's Sole Associate For
>> America. Sent from my iPhone. Office: 954 462 5869 Cell: 954 812 2485
>> On Apr 30, 2011, at 12:51 AM, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe"
>> <yahoogroups@> wrote:
>>> I just saw the following on Noonsite. Any additional specific
>>> information would be appreciated.
>>> Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 _________________________________________ On 5
>>> March 2011, an accident occurred aboard a 2006 Amel 54 in Jolly
>>> Harbour Marina, Antigua while carrying out the lifting operation of
>>> a crew member using a self-tailing winch. Currently, an
>>> investigation is underway.
>>> Safety is of paramount importance to Lewmar and, in advance of the
>>> outcome of the investigation and as part of our ongoing commitment
>>> to operational safety, we would like to remind owners of Lewmar
>>> manual and electrically-operated winches of the following key points
>>> from the Lewmar Electric 40-77 & Hydraulic 46-111 Winches Manual,
>>> Sections 2.1 and 6.1:
>>> • Under no circumstances should any self tailing winch be used
>>> in self tailing mode for any lifting operation; rather suitable and
>>> adequate manual tailing should be arranged with proper means of
>>> manually cleating or stopping the hoist.
>>> • Isolate the winch using circuit breaker/isolator when not in
>>> use.
>>> • Only persons who are completely familiar with the controls
>>> and those who have been fully made aware of the correct use of the
>>> winch should be allowed to use it.
>>> • It is the unavoidable responsibility of the owner or master
>>> or other responsible party to asses the risk of any operation on the
>>> vessel
>>> All safety notices are available in the relevant Lewmar Technical
>>> Manuals on www.Lewmar.com. Click on Support, then Product
>>> Literature, and filter by product.
>>>
>>
>>
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>
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On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS wrote:

All good Steve, nice to catch up with you.
Danny

--- On Mon, 2/5/11, svsummerlove < svsummerlove@...
<javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('svsummerlove@...')> >
wrote:

From: svsummerlove < svsummerlove@...
<javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('svsummerlove@...')> >
Subject: [Amel] Re: Lewmar Safety Notice and Lifting Accident with
Crewmember of an Amel 54
To: amelyachtowners@...
<javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('amelyachtowners@...')>
Date: Monday, 2, May, 2011, 4:53 AM

 

Danny,

Judging from Joel's account of the Yachting World article and what we
already knew from our friends, it's unlikely someone got caught in the
rigging. If I had to guess, the winch did not stop for some reason.
Hopefully, the investigation will answer why.

Sorry to have implied the smaller person should always be the one to go
aloft. Poor wording on my part. What I meant was the stronger and
usually more technically experienced is not in a position to help.

You've worked around machinery all your life, so you're well aware of
how easily things can go south if someone accidentally gets caught in
it.

We don't use the power winches or the windlass to go aloft for that
reason. I climb the mast manually using an ATN top climber. It's slow
and hard work, but I'm in control of my own destiny. I have a separate
halyard attached to a climbing harness, equipped with a climbers descent
system in case of malfunction. Donna only needs to take up the slack on
the backup halyard on the mast winch. It doesn't make it foolproof, but
it takes some of the things I can't control out of the equation. Going
aloft is dangerous enough as it is, without having to depend on
electrical components not failing or malfunctioning.

I don't feel comfortable clinging unsupported to the mast while things
are sorted out below, but that's just my own comfort level. It's not my
place or right to judge what is safe for others, and I apologize for
that inference. It is, I think though, my option to be concerned and
worried about the health and safety of my friends. :-)

Hope all is well with you and Yvonne too.

All our best,

Steve and Donna
SM340
Summer Love

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('amelyachtowners@...')>
, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Steve. Obviously I am missing something here, the person operating
the electric winch which requires holding down a button continues to
hold the button down while her arm is torn off??? Or was second person
holding the button down and continued to do so despite the screams
from the trapped person? I can envisage the person in the bosuns chair
losing a limb if it was caught under the shrouds and the wincher just
held that button down. Steve as to the smaller hoisting the larger,
there is no way my smaller is going up the mast so there is no choice
in my case. An over lay... easy, I just take my weight by holding the
mast until it is cleared. Hope all is well with you and Donna. Regards
Danny SM299 Ocean Pearl  
--- On Sun, 1/5/11, svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...> wrote:

From: svsummerlove <svsummerlove@...> Subject: [Amel] Re: Lewmar
Safety Notice and Lifting Accident with Crewmember of an Amel 54 To:
amelyachtowners@...
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Date: Sunday, 1, May, 2011, 12:33 AM

 


We had been made aware of this accident by another cruiser, who knew
the couple involved personally, shortly after it occurred. Joel's
account is accurate. She lost one arm at the scene and was airlifted
to the US. The other arm has undergone extensive surgery. She is not
expected to regain the use of her remaining hand.
I had asked permission through our mutual friend to post the details
on this site (including the names of the boat and those involved). Her
email was not returned, but with what was going on in her friends'
lives right now, it's quite understandable this would not be their
priority. I was trying to find out if the cause was due to mechanical
malfunction, human error, bad luck, combination of all, etc.
There are two procedures I see quite often done by otherwise very
safety-conscious, experienced cruisers, that scare the hell out of me.
One is standing up in a dinghy while underway to avoid "getting wet",
and the other is the smaller person on board using the power winches
to hoist the larger one aloft. Think about it! Who's going to help if
something even as simple as an over-wrap occurs? How do you get down
from the top of the mast while your partner is lying in the cockpit
with no arms bleeding to death? As this event proves, it's only a
matter of time until something really bad happens..
Steve SM340 Summer Love
--- In amelyachtowners@...
<javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('amelyachtowners@...')>
, Joel Potter <jfpottercys@> wrote:

I read in May Yachting World, British magazine, that a woman was
putting her husband up the mast with a primary cockpit winch and got
her arm caught and,literally, torn off. Her other arm was very badly
mangled and a passer-by had several fingers torn off trying to help.
This report is from memory, a failing resource, so it is accurate but
not complete.
Joel F. Potter Cruising Yacht Specialist. Amel's Sole Associate For
America. Sent from my iPhone. Office: 954 462 5869 Cell: 954 812 2485
On Apr 30, 2011, at 12:51 AM, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe"
<yahoogroups@> wrote:

I just saw the following on Noonsite. Any additional specific
information would be appreciated.
Bill BeBe, SM2k, #387 _________________________________________ On 5
March 2011, an accident occurred aboard a 2006 Amel 54 in Jolly
Harbour Marina, Antigua while carrying out the lifting operation of
a crew member using a self-tailing winch. Currently, an
investigation is underway.
Safety is of paramount importance to Lewmar and, in advance of the
outcome of the investigation and as part of our ongoing commitment
to operational safety, we would like to remind owners of Lewmar
manual and electrically-operated winches of the following key points
from the Lewmar Electric 40-77 & Hydraulic 46-111 Winches Manual,
Sections 2.1 and 6.1:
• Under no circumstances should any self tailing winch be used
in self tailing mode for any lifting operation; rather suitable and
adequate manual tailing should be arranged with proper means of
manually cleating or stopping the hoist.
• Isolate the winch using circuit breaker/isolator when not in
use.
• Only persons who are completely familiar with the controls
and those who have been fully made aware of the correct use of the
winch should be allowed to use it.
• It is the unavoidable responsibility of the owner or master
or other responsible party to asses the risk of any operation on the
vessel
All safety notices are available in the relevant Lewmar Technical
Manuals on www.Lewmar.com. Click on Support, then Product
Literature, and filter by product.

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