Hello to all:

To everyone on the Amel forum who has contributed to my Amel education, to the Amel factory team that built such a well conceived and well executed boat, and to Joel who has become my good and lifetime friend; Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Thanks to each of you for your contributions to my education and support and for the meaningful part of my life that you, and my Amel boat, are.

All the best and fair winds,

Gary Silver
Amel SM2000 Hull # 335
Delivered (not one day late) July 2001

Gary,

I faced the same problem, I even wrote Davis Marine who makes the smaller
sizes and they have no idea where to get it.

Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of amelliahona
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 11:52 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: Rigging Covers





Eric:

It has been a couple of years but I last purchased some of the larger size
covers from Laurant in Amel Guadeloupe. They were no doubt sent from France.
I bought about 20 pieces of each of the two larger sizes because mine only
last a year or two at best in the Caribbean sun. I found that I can store
the spares in the port lazarette suspended up under the coming by some short
pieces of cord. Why the USA doesn't have the larger sizes I can't say, but I
too could not find these larger sizes anywhere in the Caribbean or USA.

Gary Silver s/v Liahona Hull # 335 SM2000

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
wrote:

Eric:

It has been a couple of years but I last purchased some of the larger size covers from Laurant in Amel Guadeloupe. They were no doubt sent from France. I bought about 20 pieces of each of the two larger sizes because mine only last a year or two at best in the Caribbean sun. I found that I can store the spares in the port lazarette suspended up under the coming by some short pieces of cord. Why the USA doesn't have the larger sizes I can't say, but I too could not find these larger sizes anywhere in the Caribbean or USA.

Gary Silver s/v Liahona Hull # 335 SM2000

Has anyone installed a RayMarine AIS500?

If so I have a couple of questions:
1. Did you have any trouble interfacing with your chart plotter, for instance I have a C80 at the helm.
2. Where did you mount your GPS antenna and what type of deck fitting did you use for the antenna cable penetration?
3. Did you use the AIS500 VHF splitter or did you use a separate VHF antenna for the AIS?

Thanks, Gary Silver s/v Liahona Amel SM2000 Hull # 335 lying Grenada

Mark:

I purchased a exhaust elbow/water mixing injector Yanmar PN 129671-13551, for my Yanmar 4JH3-TE (Amel SM2000 Hull # 335, delivered July 2001) from Boatswain's Locker in Costa Mesa CA phone 949-642-6800, for $251.00 US$ in 2007. It is a substantial cast part and although expensive doesn't seem out of line with other parts for this engine. Since my other hobby is aviation, this seem positively cheap compared to a similar part for an aircraft.

I purchased it as a spare and haven't had to use it yet. I am keeping my fingers crossed as the engine now has 1031 hrs on it. How many hours on your engines, and what symptoms did you see that indicated they are near the end of their lives.

Hope that helps a little.

Gary Silver s/v Liahona

Both our Yanmar and Onan wet exhaust mixer elbows are near the end of their lives. The prices for the OEM parts seem a bit high, even as boat parts go. Apparently, the previous owner of our boat thought so, too, as the elbow on the Yanmar is not OEM.

I have two questions:

* Has anyone had experience getting these parts custom fabricated? Any advice on materials, design, etc?

* One fabricator I talked with suggested a ceramic coating to protect the steel from the exhaust gases and salt water. Has anyone tried this?

Thanks in advance!

Mark

Merry Christmas you two,

Bill will you send me an email address that I can talk to you in private. Please send to agav8ter (at) yahoo dot com.

Thanks. I hope all is well with you and Judy. I enjoy thinking about the times we enjoyed out on the big blue ocean. You have certainly gotten further that us!!! WORLD CITIZEN is moored up the Cape Fear River at a small marina. I am captain of a tug and happily the tug "parks" about two miles down river from WORLD CITIZEN. Anyway I look forward to your reply.

Aloha Tony

Thanks, Steve, That looks interesting. Cheers, Ian

I have been using first aid tape that you use to hold on gauze bandages. It
is available in any pharmacy.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:27 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] worm clamp tape





I have been unable to locate the cloth-like tape Amel wrapped on hoses under
worm clamps throughout my SM2K. I've been using electrical tape when
replacing it, vaguely worried I may be doing something wrong.

Is there some special purpose of the tape Amel uses? Does anyone know what
it is & where you can get it, or have recommendations on what to use in its
place? Does it matter?

Thanks in advance,

Mark

I have been unable to locate the cloth-like tape Amel wrapped on hoses under worm clamps throughout my SM2K. I've been using electrical tape when replacing it, vaguely worried I may be doing something wrong.

Is there some special purpose of the tape Amel uses? Does anyone know what it is & where you can get it, or have recommendations on what to use in its place? Does it matter?

Thanks in advance,

Mark

Ian
We encountered the same concerns as we sail in Maine during the summer time and the spurs are too small and zinc repacement is constant. We ordered the following line cutter Shart Shark Cutter and the shaft size is included.
I have received word back from UK that the Autoprops are made to fit a ISO 35mm shaft. So therefore you would need a Model #400-35mm unit.
List price $430.00. “Show price” $387.00

Regards, Steve Armitage

747 Aquidneck Ave,
Middletown, RI 02842
Tel: 401-847-7960
sales@...
We will install this March when we haul the boat. This company also services the Autoprop in the US

Paul LaFrance
SV NOMAD SM #362
Currently in BVI





To: amelyachtowners@...
From: ianjudyjenkins@...
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 15:50:58 +0000
Subject: [Amel] Rope cutters







Hi y'all, We have had Spurs rope cutters on Pen Azen ( SM 302) for ten years. On a couple of occasions we have encountered fairly thick rope and the fixed blade has just snapped off. Spurs replacements are expensive and I am now going to try a different solution, a single circular blade made of two semi circles which bolt together. Whilst they may not cut as well as the Spurs cutter I expect them to be more robust, and they are much cheaper. We are away from the boat---question: Can anyone tell me the diameter of the prop shaft on an SM? Happy Xmas, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Snow bound in London

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Hi y'all, We have had Spurs rope cutters on Pen Azen ( SM 302) for ten years. On a couple of occasions we have encountered fairly thick rope and the fixed blade has just snapped off. Spurs replacements are expensive and I am now going to try a different solution, a single circular blade made of two semi circles which bolt together. Whilst they may not cut as well as the Spurs cutter I expect them to be more robust, and they are much cheaper. We are away from the boat---question: Can anyone tell me the diameter of the prop shaft on an SM? Happy Xmas, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Snow bound in London

Hi y'all, We have had Spurs rope cutters on Pen Azen ( SM 302) for ten years. On a couple of occasions we have encountered fairly thick rope and the fixed blade has just snapped off. Spurs replacements are expensive and I am now going to try a different solution, a single circular blade made of two semi circles which bolt together. Whilst they may not cut as well as the Spurs cutter I expect them to be more robust, and they are much cheaper. We are away from the boat---question: Can anyone tell me the diameter of the prop shaft on an SM? Happy Xmas, Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302 Snow bound in London

Eric,

The slit was the width of the sawblade. The material is flexible enough to work with so you just need the one cut.

We've had ours on for over a year and they still look fine. We came back north for hurricane season so the boat only saw about 6 months of real tropical exposure.

I'm not sure how long they will ultimately last but for the cost of some PVC, I'm content with a few years of service.

You have different choices for seizing. A quick and dirty method is a tie wrap subsequently covered in tape. Or you can go fancy and do a traditional rope wrapping in which case the thing should last for a long time because you can just renew the wrapping.

Cheers,
Dave

Dave,

I was thinking of that,

However how long does it hold up in the Caribbean sun?

Did you cut a very small slit ? or what size,? What did you seize it with?



Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Dave_Benjamin
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:40 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: Rigging Covers





Available at any hardware store.....PVC pipe
I use a table saw to cut a slit.
After installing I seize it every 500mm or so.

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
wrote:

Available at any hardware store.....PVC pipe
I use a table saw to cut a slit.
After installing I seize it every 500mm or so.

A couple of years ago we found the larger diameter plastic rigging
covers in a chandlery in Le Marin, Martinique. I don't know today if
they still have those larger diameters. But Amel-Caraibes recently
moved from Guadeloupe and is now located in Le Marin. Maybe they
have them.
William Melbourne
S/V Third Wish SMM 306
++++++

Steve,

I store mine in the port cockpit locker all the way forward in the original
bag. Next to it I have the chafe gear.

I packed it in such a way that the bridle is on top and then I drop in the
drogue like packing a parachute.. Also on the top is the chain. So I hook
up the bridle, flake the drogue on the aft cabin top and drop the chain in
the water. I would not suggest putting it anywhere else as it would be
difficult to get out of any other locker. The only problem I encountered is
if you try to make the bridle shorten on one side it puts strain on the
mizzen back stays. Before I leave St Martin I will have a solution for that.
The drogue must be inside the stays , otherwise you will take out the ssb
antenna.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite



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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2010 8:40 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heavy Weather





Thanks Eric,

Based on your earlier accounts and recommendations, I bought a Jordan series

drogue before we left on the 2009 Caribbean 1500. Like the life raft, hoping
we
never have to use it, but well worth the peace-of-mind.

The only downside I've found is finding the storage space for it when not
offshore. We have it flaked and packed in 2 plastic tubs, but they're heavy
and
bulky. Since arriving in Grenada, we were fortunate to have friends who can
store it for us ashore. I suppose it's not a lot of use if it isn't on the
boat
when you need it, but if we're clumsy enough to get caught in that strong a
gale
sailing between Caribbean islands, then we probably shouldn't be cruising
anyway.

Steve
Summer Love SM340

________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 12:57:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heavy Weather

Steve,

The initial problem with retrieving the drogue was that the primary winch
motors are not rated for continuous duty. After overheating the motor a few
times, I just waited about 1 minute every 4 minutes and it then did not
shut down the motor.

The other problem is that the initial part of the drogue is about 1 ¼
inches and then you have the cones to deal with. The drogue must be hand
tailed, one person on the button and another on the winch, making sure you
do not catch the parachutes on the tailing horn and ripping the chutes as
the line is too large to be self tailed. Thirdly, you need another person on
the stern guiding the drogue away from the chock as it will also tear the
chutes. This part I solved by fabricating a piece of wood to block off the
chock and thru bolt it to itself to prevent the chutes from getting into the
chock. If we ever need it again, we will be better prepared for the
retrieval. It as light work, but tedious.

You must also have chafe gear that will hold the large diameter line.

All in all it was well worth the investment, time and effort.

I also was in a horrific storm, 1 more storms, and a gale before reaching
Bermuda. In 1990 where 7 boats went down about 300 miles north of St Thomas,
we also made it through unscathed in my tartan 37. .

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:08 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heavy Weather

Eric,

I remember in one of your earlier posts you described how difficult it was
retrieving the Jordan series drogue, and that it kept throwing the circuit
breaker on the genoa sheet power winch. Did you happen to try using "both"
power winches at the same time? For example using the port winch as the
primary, then running the tail across to the starboard one to use them
in-line.
At the very least it would make tailing easier.

Steve
Summer Love SM 340

________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, December 15, 2010 1:17:59 AM
Subject: [Amel] Heavy Weather

On the drogue you run under bare poles, our speed was about 1 ½ knots down
wind. You adjust the angle of the boat with the bridles until you are square
to the oncoming waves. In Force 12 wind you do not want to have any canvas
up, on any point of sail, and running dead down wind would just shred the
sails.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Conn Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heavy Weather

Eric were you hoved-to at the same time in the storm or were you
running?...CW

________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, 15 December, 2010 3:49:02 PM
Subject: [Amel] Heavy Weather

I have successfully used the Jordan series drogue twice in my life. The last
time ,2008, the winds were force 12 and seas as reported by the coast guard
to be 50-60 feet.

We were the only boat not to have sunk or been severely damaged, both times.

I do not believe in sea anchors, Google Jordan series drogue and watch the
video, there are also some wave tank tests.

I would not leave home without it.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Conn Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heaving-to

I have that Pardy's book and they recomend deploying a chute or parra anchor
off
the windward bow to stop the forward drift. It"s good to hear some Amel
sailing
tips and experiences. Thanks

________________________________
From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@... <mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, 15 December, 2010 2:18:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heaving-to

I tried heaving to with my SM243 and found that I couldn't slip exactly
downwind
as recommended by the Pardee's. No matter what I did, I sailed forward at
about
1/2 kt, which was fine for calming the motion, getting some rest and
cooking,
but I sailed out of the boat's slick to windward. In a big sea it's my
understanding that if you can slip directly downwind, the slick created by
the
boat will prevent waves from breaking on your beam. I think that I would
have
to drag something on a yoke from the bow and stern so that I could adjust
the
attitude of the boat to be able to slip directly downwind.

If you figure something else out, please let us know.
Kent
S/V KRISTY
SM243

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no where in the Caribbean and in the US, West marine and Defender says no too. I gave up.
John "Moon Dog" SM248


To: amelyachtowners@...
From: kimberlite@...
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 00:11:56 -0500
Subject: [Amel] Rigging Covers






Does anyone have a source for the large diameter plastic rigging covers in
the USA or Caribbean? The smaller stuff is readily available, although it
only lasts about 2 years in the strong sun.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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Thanks Eric,

Based on your earlier accounts and recommendations, I bought a Jordan series
drogue before we left on the 2009 Caribbean 1500. Like the life raft, hoping we
never have to use it, but well worth the peace-of-mind.

The only downside I've found is finding the storage space for it when not
offshore. We have it flaked and packed in 2 plastic tubs, but they're heavy and
bulky. Since arriving in Grenada, we were fortunate to have friends who can
store it for us ashore. I suppose it's not a lot of use if it isn't on the boat
when you need it, but if we're clumsy enough to get caught in that strong a gale
sailing between Caribbean islands, then we probably shouldn't be cruising
anyway.

Steve
Summer Love SM340



________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thu, December 16, 2010 12:57:18 AM
Subject: RE: [Amel] Heavy Weather


Steve,

The initial problem with retrieving the drogue was that the primary winch
motors are not rated for continuous duty. After overheating the motor a few
times, I just waited about 1 minute every 4 minutes and it then did not
shut down the motor.

The other problem is that the initial part of the drogue is about 1 ¼
inches and then you have the cones to deal with. The drogue must be hand
tailed, one person on the button and another on the winch, making sure you
do not catch the parachutes on the tailing horn and ripping the chutes as
the line is too large to be self tailed. Thirdly, you need another person on
the stern guiding the drogue away from the chock as it will also tear the
chutes. This part I solved by fabricating a piece of wood to block off the
chock and thru bolt it to itself to prevent the chutes from getting into the
chock. If we ever need it again, we will be better prepared for the
retrieval. It as light work, but tedious.

You must also have chafe gear that will hold the large diameter line.

All in all it was well worth the investment, time and effort.

I also was in a horrific storm, 1 more storms, and a gale before reaching
Bermuda. In 1990 where 7 boats went down about 300 miles north of St Thomas,
we also made it through unscathed in my tartan 37. .

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Steve Constantine
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:08 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heavy Weather

Eric,

I remember in one of your earlier posts you described how difficult it was
retrieving the Jordan series drogue, and that it kept throwing the circuit
breaker on the genoa sheet power winch. Did you happen to try using "both"
power winches at the same time? For example using the port winch as the
primary, then running the tail across to the starboard one to use them
in-line.
At the very least it would make tailing easier.

Steve
Summer Love SM 340

________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, December 15, 2010 1:17:59 AM
Subject: [Amel] Heavy Weather

On the drogue you run under bare poles, our speed was about 1 ½ knots down
wind. You adjust the angle of the boat with the bridles until you are square
to the oncoming waves. In Force 12 wind you do not want to have any canvas
up, on any point of sail, and running dead down wind would just shred the
sails.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Conn Williamson
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:14 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heavy Weather

Eric were you hoved-to at the same time in the storm or were you
running?...CW

________________________________
From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net>
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, 15 December, 2010 3:49:02 PM
Subject: [Amel] Heavy Weather

I have successfully used the Jordan series drogue twice in my life. The last
time ,2008, the winds were force 12 and seas as reported by the coast guard
to be 50-60 feet.

We were the only boat not to have sunk or been severely damaged, both times.

I do not believe in sea anchors, Google Jordan series drogue and watch the
video, there are also some wave tank tests.

I would not leave home without it.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Conn Williamson
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 5:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heaving-to

I have that Pardy's book and they recomend deploying a chute or parra anchor
off
the windward bow to stop the forward drift. It"s good to hear some Amel
sailing
tips and experiences. Thanks

________________________________
From: Kent Robertson <karkauai@... <mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com>
<mailto:karkauai%40yahoo.com> >
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, 15 December, 2010 2:18:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Heaving-to

I tried heaving to with my SM243 and found that I couldn't slip exactly
downwind
as recommended by the Pardee's. No matter what I did, I sailed forward at
about
1/2 kt, which was fine for calming the motion, getting some rest and
cooking,
but I sailed out of the boat's slick to windward. In a big sea it's my
understanding that if you can slip directly downwind, the slick created by
the
boat will prevent waves from breaking on your beam. I think that I would
have
to drag something on a yoke from the bow and stern so that I could adjust
the
attitude of the boat to be able to slip directly downwind.

If you figure something else out, please let us know.
Kent
S/V KRISTY
SM243

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