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Re: [Amel] Re: shaft driven alternater Sharki #127

Patrick McAneny
 

I had my alt. totally rebuilt at an alt. shop and it cost me $82.00.Rebuild
rather than replace. SM 123


Re: [Amel] Re: shaft driven alternater Sharki #127

Horst Pause <horst.puddleduck@...>
 

I bought the followinbg from WMJ, it fitted, and it had the right pulley for the
ribbon cable fitted to my boat:

ARCO MANDO 55A ALTERNATOR arc-60055 1 189.00
FOR MERCRUISER 60055
Horst, Maramu 185




________________________________
From: GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sat, 4 December, 2010 10:46:25
Subject: [Amel] Re: shaft driven alternater Sharki #127


We have Sharki 181 with a Valeo 25 amp shaft alternator.
It is a Type A290, this number has now been changed to 510837. I it is identical
to a Motorola unit, they look as though they come out of the same factory and
use the same brush set etc.

The current replacement has a UK list price of approximately £1200.00, yes one
thousand two hundred pounds! So I would suggest that you get yours repaired or
find a more sensibly priced alternative.

You should bre able to find an auto shop that can test and repair your existing
unit.
Best of luck.

Regards
Graham

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Geoffrey" <geoffrey_tyers@...> wrote:

Could somebody provide the specifications on the shaft driven alternater so
that I can have my current model checked. I get no output at 6 kts thru the
water... Does any body recommend a permenant magnet alternater.






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Re: [Amel] Re: shaft driven alternater Sharki #127

Eric Lindholm <etlindholm@...>
 

Geoffrey. I have a common 12 volt Delco alternator that was modified by putting
a 24 volt rotor into a 12 volt stator (case). It has an internal 12 volt
regulator.  It bolted up in place of the Amel supplied alternator, which on my
maramu was a Paris Ronn. I had to remove approximately 1/2 inch from the front
of the foot of the alternator that mounts on the bracket above the transmission,
and do a little machine work on the small diameter pulley to fit it onto the
alternator. The total cost of the alternator ready to go was only $120 US. It
puts out 16 amps at 6.5 knots, twice what the original did. If you ask around, I
am sure someone can direct you to an alternator repair shop that could test your
alternator and repair what you have, or provide you with an improved version. 

Eric Maramu 105 



________________________________
From: GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sat, December 4, 2010 2:46:25 AM
Subject: [Amel] Re: shaft driven alternater Sharki #127

 
We have Sharki 181 with a Valeo 25 amp shaft alternator.
It is a Type A290, this number has now been changed to 510837. I it is identical
to a Motorola unit, they look as though they come out of the same factory and
use the same brush set etc.

The current replacement has a UK list price of approximately £1200.00, yes one
thousand two hundred pounds! So I would suggest that you get yours repaired or
find a more sensibly priced alternative.

You should bre able to find an auto shop that can test and repair your existing
unit.
Best of luck.

Regards
Graham

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Geoffrey" <geoffrey_tyers@...> wrote:

Could somebody provide the specifications on the shaft driven alternater so
that I can have my current model checked. I get no output at 6 kts thru the
water... Does any body recommend a permenant magnet alternater.


Sharki solar panel mounting

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Hello all,
Has anyone fitted a davit and solar panel arrangement to the stern of their Sharki, or anything similar?

I have looked at this idea but as the end of the mizzen boom overhamgs the stern the framework would have to be set quite far aft and perhaps would look rather odd. Any ideas or pictures would be appreciated.



Regards
Graham


Re: shaft driven alternater Sharki #127

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

We have Sharki 181 with a Valeo 25 amp shaft alternator.
It is a Type A290, this number has now been changed to 510837. I it is identical to a Motorola unit, they look as though they come out of the same factory and use the same brush set etc.

The current replacement has a UK list price of approximately £1200.00, yes one thousand two hundred pounds! So I would suggest that you get yours repaired or find a more sensibly priced alternative.

You should bre able to find an auto shop that can test and repair your existing unit.
Best of luck.

Regards
Graham

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Geoffrey" <geoffrey_tyers@...> wrote:

Could somebody provide the specifications on the shaft driven alternater so that I can have my current model checked. I get no output at 6 kts thru the water... Does any body recommend a permenant magnet alternater.


Re: [Amel] Maramu repower

bsarff@...
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave_Benjamin" <dave_benjamin@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, December 3, 2010 4:08:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu repower

 




Hi Deb and John,

The problem with the port and starboard rail solar install is that one is almost always in shade due to the mizzen boom. We are adding a set of davits and will put a third panel on top of the crosspiece between the davits. If you have davits or plan to have davits I'd suggest getting one or two panels up there as the rail mounted ones have proven inefficient.

We spent last season on the hook and I was keeping a pretty close eye on the solar controller.

Cheers,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29

--- In amelyachtowners@... , woods deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...> wrote:

Hi Howard

Many thanks for the information we are looking into the Yanmar and the pics were
really helpful. You have installed your solar panels on port and starboard rails
at the stern we are planning to do the same with two Kyocera 135 watt panels.
Foe interest which way did you run the cables? Did you go through the deck as
close to the toe rail as possible and install cable glands?

Regards

Deb and John
Orion1




________________________________
From: svresolute <svresolute@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sun, 21 November, 2010 16:14:17
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu repower


Hi John and Deb, this is Howard from s/v Jazz, Maramu #144.

We just finished a 3 1/2 year refit (restoration, really) of our Maramu which
included repowering with a 75HP Yanmar 4JH4-TE. If you go to the Photos
section, look for the album sv JAZZ which documents the entire process. There
are several photos of the engine installation. You might also consider
replacing the stuffing box with a dripless unit (we used a Tides Marine) and a
large alternator (ours is a Bomar 210 amp that mounts directly to the engine
with a kit made expressly for the Yanmar by a company called Altmount). Because
the Yanmar puts out 13 more horsepower than the original Perkins we also went up
an inch in size on our Maxprop.

Regards,
Howard Berger
s/v Jazz Maramu 144







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I plan to add a davit or arch in the next year and wonder is anyone has installed one that they are happy with and if you have pictures.  I will use the arch for solar panels and a wind generator.   Is there a "standard" one available on the market or will  I need to have one custom made?



Thanks for any advice you can offer



Bob & Joyce

S/V Chara

#173



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Re: [Amel] Maramu repower

Dave_Benjamin
 

Hi Deb and John,

The problem with the port and starboard rail solar install is that one is almost always in shade due to the mizzen boom. We are adding a set of davits and will put a third panel on top of the crosspiece between the davits. If you have davits or plan to have davits I'd suggest getting one or two panels up there as the rail mounted ones have proven inefficient.

We spent last season on the hook and I was keeping a pretty close eye on the solar controller.

Cheers,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29

--- In amelyachtowners@..., woods deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...> wrote:

Hi Howard

Many thanks for the information we are looking into the Yanmar and the pics were
really helpful. You have installed your solar panels on port and starboard rails
at the stern we are planning to do the same with two Kyocera 135 watt panels.
Foe interest which way did you run the cables? Did you go through the deck as
close to the toe rail as possible and install cable glands?

Regards

Deb and John
Orion1




________________________________
From: svresolute <svresolute@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sun, 21 November, 2010 16:14:17
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu repower


Hi John and Deb, this is Howard from s/v Jazz, Maramu #144.

We just finished a 3 1/2 year refit (restoration, really) of our Maramu which
included repowering with a 75HP Yanmar 4JH4-TE. If you go to the Photos
section, look for the album sv JAZZ which documents the entire process. There
are several photos of the engine installation. You might also consider
replacing the stuffing box with a dripless unit (we used a Tides Marine) and a
large alternator (ours is a Bomar 210 amp that mounts directly to the engine
with a kit made expressly for the Yanmar by a company called Altmount). Because
the Yanmar puts out 13 more horsepower than the original Perkins we also went up
an inch in size on our Maxprop.

Regards,
Howard Berger
s/v Jazz Maramu 144







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[Amel] Re: Brushes for Leroy-Somer furling and outhaul motors (24 v, 25 amp)

Thomas <thomas.kleman@...>
 

Ahhhh- success !!!! For anyone looking for these brushes, here is the contact info: rnadeau@...

It seems Leroy-Somer is owned by Emerson Electric (offices in St. Louis and Montreal)..........Mr. Nadeau is the inside sales guy. There are affiliates, departments, and a baffling array of people I had to deal with to find him but this is THE GUY.


Re: [Amel] Maramu repower

woods deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...>
 

Hi Howard

Many thanks for the information we are looking into the Yanmar and the pics were
really helpful. You have installed your solar panels on port and starboard rails
at the stern we are planning to do the same with two Kyocera 135 watt panels.
Foe interest which way did you run the cables? Did you go through the deck as
close to the toe rail as possible and install cable glands?

Regards

Deb and John
Orion1




________________________________
From: svresolute <svresolute@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sun, 21 November, 2010 16:14:17
Subject: Re: [Amel] Maramu repower


Hi John and Deb, this is Howard from s/v Jazz, Maramu #144.

We just finished a 3 1/2 year refit (restoration, really) of our Maramu which
included repowering with a 75HP Yanmar 4JH4-TE. If you go to the Photos
section, look for the album sv JAZZ which documents the entire process. There
are several photos of the engine installation. You might also consider
replacing the stuffing box with a dripless unit (we used a Tides Marine) and a
large alternator (ours is a Bomar 210 amp that mounts directly to the engine
with a kit made expressly for the Yanmar by a company called Altmount). Because
the Yanmar puts out 13 more horsepower than the original Perkins we also went up
an inch in size on our Maxprop.

Regards,
Howard Berger
s/v Jazz Maramu 144







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Re: [Amel] main halyard problem

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Pat give me a call when you can

Regards
Richard Piller

On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:44, "Patrick McAneny" <sailw32@...> wrote:

I tried to drop my main and it would not drop.I applied downward pull on the tack to the point I was afraid I might damage the sail.It became apparent it was stuck at the top of mast.I went to the top and I could not see but it felt as though there was two sections of the halyard going over the top of the sheave.I think that I did not have the downhaul short enough and the sail low enough an when I tensioned the halyard the knot or sliced pulled over the sheave and through the plates on the sides that hold the sheave and now will not came back through.I think Iam going to have to cut the halyard at the sheave to drop the sail and drop the halyard and rerun it.Two questions,Does the halyard ran inside a conduit that a knot or splice would hang up on?I would not think there would be ,but wanted to check before I cut.I do not know what you call the car/swivel that the head of the main is attached to,but how is the halyard attached, a splice?
Thanks,Pat SM123


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Re: [Amel] main halyard problem

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

Pat before you CUT thread a tracer of string to the halyard remove the line at the base of the main to relive some of the pressure on the main.
If you can not get to the areA below the knot attach the tracer at the point at which it is attached to the head of the sail. You may have a better shot to attached the tracer later.
Now see if you can pull the main UP to allow the halyard back over the shive

With any luck the Amel installed tracer is still available to assist you if you need it.

If you want some help I'm here in Annapolis
Good luck
Regards
Richard Piller sm209 For Sale in Annapolis

On Nov 29, 2010, at 8:44, "Patrick McAneny" <sailw32@...> wrote:

I tried to drop my main and it would not drop.I applied downward pull on the tack to the point I was afraid I might damage the sail.It became apparent it was stuck at the top of mast.I went to the top and I could not see but it felt as though there was two sections of the halyard going over the top of the sheave.I think that I did not have the downhaul short enough and the sail low enough an when I tensioned the halyard the knot or sliced pulled over the sheave and through the plates on the sides that hold the sheave and now will not came back through.I think Iam going to have to cut the halyard at the sheave to drop the sail and drop the halyard and rerun it.Two questions,Does the halyard ran inside a conduit that a knot or splice would hang up on?I would not think there would be ,but wanted to check before I cut.I do not know what you call the car/swivel that the head of the main is attached to,but how is the halyard attached, a splice?
Thanks,Pat SM123


main halyard problem

Patrick McAneny
 

I tried to drop my main and it would not drop.I applied downward pull on the tack to the point I was afraid I might damage the sail.It became apparent it was stuck at the top of mast.I went to the top and I could not see but it felt as though there was two sections of the halyard going over the top of the sheave.I think that I did not have the downhaul short enough and the sail low enough an when I tensioned the halyard the knot or sliced pulled over the sheave and through the plates on the sides that hold the sheave and now will not came back through.I think Iam going to have to cut the halyard at the sheave to drop the sail and drop the halyard and rerun it.Two questions,Does the halyard ran inside a conduit that a knot or splice would hang up on?I would not think there would be ,but wanted to check before I cut.I do not know what you call the car/swivel that the head of the main is attached to,but how is the halyard attached, a splice?
Thanks,Pat SM123


Re: [Amel] Triatic stay

Fisher, Thomas W.
 

Hi David,

I have also found it difficult to have the triactic tuned properly. I'm
not certain but It seems only to provide forward support to the Mizzen
mast on any point of sail other than down wind. If tuned correctly, I
suppose while sailing down wind some of the forces from the main are
also spread out through the entire rig. Two other Lake Ontario Sharki
owners have rigged 2 adjustable back stays for the mizzen. One to port
and the other to starboard. This makes tensioning the mizzen much easier
as you don't have to worry about the mizzen boom. Simple let one stay
off and tighten the other in. I basically copied their arrangement. I
don't know if this was how things were originally intended but it does
work nicely.

By the way to any of you who are waiting for the PDF of the NECO auto
helm manual, my apologies. I have it at the office but just have to take
a few minutes to get it done and emailed.


Tom
SHEILA, Sharki #146




________________________________

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of spritoaffine
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 07:38
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Triatic stay




Can anyone explain the purpose of the triatic stay other than as an
antenna for the SSB. I have some Amel pictures of a Sharki showing the
triatic taut (which is how I thought it should always be)when going to
windward and slack when on a broad reach (even though the running
backstay appears to be in use). Any thoughts?
David & Hazel
Spirito Affine Sharki 148


Triatic stay

spritoaffine <spritoaffine@...>
 

Can anyone explain the purpose of the triatic stay other than as an antenna for the SSB. I have some Amel pictures of a Sharki showing the triatic taut (which is how I thought it should always be)when going to windward and slack when on a broad reach (even though the running backstay appears to be in use). Any thoughts?
David & Hazel
Spirito Affine Sharki 148


shaft driven alternater Sharki #127

Geoffrey <geoffrey_tyers@...>
 

Could somebody provide the specifications on the shaft driven alternater so that I can have my current model checked. I get no output at 6 kts thru the water... Does any body recommend a permenant magnet alternater.


[Amel] Re: Maramu repower

Dave_Benjamin
 

Richard,

Thanks for the suggestion however since I own a sail loft, Island Planet Sails, we'll build new. In many cases used sails don't pencil out well for consumers. I've seen many people spend 80% of the cost of a new sail on a used sail requiring modifications.

Staysails can actually be quite tricky to buy used, especially if you plan to use fixed sheeting locations or a self tacking arrangment. We've built a lot of staysails and they all have their own very distinct requirements.

Have a great Thanksgiving!

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Richard Piller <richard03801@...> wrote:

Dave you might want to look at what Bacon has here in Annapolis before you spend
a lot on a stay sail... we did Bacon's for our Maramu with great success.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Richard on Challenge in Annapolis For Sale.





________________________________
From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 6:56:30 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Maramu repower


That Altmount is a pretty slick setup. We have a 210A alternator that has a
custom fabricated mount but I like the looks of your system a lot better.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svresolute" <svresolute@> wrote:

Hi John and Deb, this is Howard from s/v Jazz, Maramu #144.

We just finished a 3 1/2 year refit (restoration, really) of our Maramu which
included repowering with a 75HP Yanmar 4JH4-TE. If you go to the Photos
section, look for the album sv JAZZ which documents the entire process. There
are several photos of the engine installation. You might also consider
replacing the stuffing box with a dripless unit (we used a Tides Marine) and a
large alternator (ours is a Bomar 210 amp that mounts directly to the engine
with a kit made expressly for the Yanmar by a company called Altmount). Because
the Yanmar puts out 13 more horsepower than the original Perkins we also went up
an inch in size on our Maxprop.

Regards,
Howard Berger
s/v Jazz Maramu 144






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[Amel] Re: Amel yearly upkeep cost

Dave_Benjamin
 

I based that figure on an older Maramu since the gentleman inquiring suggested he may be leaning towards buying one. He plans to liveaboard domestically for four years before cruising. If he buys an average Maramu for say $150K, he could easily spend $60K in the four years he has to prep the boat.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., sailw32@... wrote:

I do not believe that estimating maintenance costs as a percentage of boat
value makes sense.You can take two SMs identical in every way, however one
could have a value of $250,000 and another a few years newer could have a
value of $550,000.Does that mean the owner of the newer boat would send
$30,000. more per year to maintain his boat? If anything the owner of the older
boat of less value would probably spend more because his systems are older.I
have owned my SM for four years and I have not spent 10% of its value yet, and
I assure you I have maintained and greatly approved the boat since I've
owned it. As its been pointed out, if you do the work yourself, and I do, you
save a hell of alot of money.An example , two years ago Diane and I spent
probably 100 hrs. preping the topsides and rubrails before we awlgripped the
boat . Total cost probably $700.00 , if done by the marina it probably would
have cost at least $14,000.00.or more. Not one run by the way, it looks
great, there is a photo under ''Shenanigans ''in the photo section.It is
expensive to own my SM , but if it ran 10% a year to maintain , I would be sailing a
sunfish. In regards to insurance, work has and will for at least another
year keeps us confined primarily to the Cheasapeke Bay ,so I have coverage
only from Maine to S.Carolina, no need to over insure.My premium is $ 1265.00/
yr. for full coverage with Charter Lakes marine ins. agency , Kent Island ,
Md.
Pat SM 123






Re: [Amel] Re: Maramu repower

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

Dave you might want to look at what Bacon has here in Annapolis before you spend
a lot on a stay sail... we did Bacon's for our Maramu with great success.
Happy Thanksgiving.
Richard on Challenge in Annapolis For Sale.





________________________________
From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 6:56:30 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Maramu repower


That Altmount is a pretty slick setup. We have a 210A alternator that has a
custom fabricated mount but I like the looks of your system a lot better.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svresolute" <svresolute@...> wrote:

Hi John and Deb, this is Howard from s/v Jazz, Maramu #144.

We just finished a 3 1/2 year refit (restoration, really) of our Maramu which
included repowering with a 75HP Yanmar 4JH4-TE. If you go to the Photos
section, look for the album sv JAZZ which documents the entire process. There
are several photos of the engine installation. You might also consider
replacing the stuffing box with a dripless unit (we used a Tides Marine) and a
large alternator (ours is a Bomar 210 amp that mounts directly to the engine
with a kit made expressly for the Yanmar by a company called Altmount). Because
the Yanmar puts out 13 more horsepower than the original Perkins we also went up
an inch in size on our Maxprop.

Regards,
Howard Berger
s/v Jazz Maramu 144






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Re: [Amel] Re: Amel yearly upkeep cost

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Pat, thank you for taking the time to respond, I really appreciate your opinion.  Including your feedback I am starting to conclude that older (Maramu or Mango) end up costing about $20,000 per year to be well maintained while newer SM or Santorin cost about $12,000.  I will definitely learn my boat and do all the work I can myself.  Thanks again and I wish you a Happy Thanksgiving, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704

--- On Tue, 11/23/10, sailw32@... <sailw32@...> wrote:


From: sailw32@... <sailw32@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 8:41 PM


 



I do not believe that estimating maintenance costs as a percentage of boat
value makes sense.You can take two SMs identical in every way, however one
could have a value of $250,000 and another a few years newer could have a
value of $550,000.Does that mean the owner of the newer boat would send
$30,000. more per year to maintain his boat? If anything the owner of the older
boat of less value would probably spend more because his systems are older.I
have owned my SM for four years and I have not spent 10% of its value yet, and
I assure you I have maintained and greatly approved the boat since I've
owned it. As its been pointed out, if you do the work yourself, and I do, you
save a hell of alot of money.An example , two years ago Diane and I spent
probably 100 hrs. preping the topsides and rubrails before we awlgripped the
boat . Total cost probably $700.00 , if done by the marina it probably would
have cost at least $14,000.00.or more. Not one run by the way, it looks
great, there is a photo under ''Shenanigans ''in the photo section.It is
expensive to own my SM , but if it ran 10% a year to maintain , I would be sailing a
sunfish. In regards to insurance, work has and will for at least another
year keeps us confined primarily to the Cheasapeke Bay ,so I have coverage
only from Maine to S.Carolina, no need to over insure.My premium is $ 1265.00/
yr. for full coverage with Charter Lakes marine ins. agency , Kent Island ,
Md.
Pat SM 123












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Re: [Amel] Re: Amel yearly upkeep cost

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Dave, thank you again for your feedback.  It seems 10% is a good average for older boats.  I was also told the same thing either a boat extremely well maintained or with extensive refit… 
Again, I really appreciate you taking the time to reply.  Have a great thanks giving weekend, sincerely, Alexandre 713-412-6704

--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:


From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 5:33 PM


 



Alexandre,

I try not to think about how much money I spend on the boat ;-)
When we bought our Maramu, the previous owner had spent over $100K USD on a fairly extensive refit. We spent around $15K USD completing the work, replacing some hardware, and building new sails. We cruised the boat for about 8 or 9 months and spent under $300 on maintenance during that time.

Now we are ready to haul out, paint the bottom, replace the stuffing box, and install a new thru-hull which will be about $2K USD.

I expect we'll spend very little over the next year although I'm thinking about a new mizzen spinnaker and maybe another staysail.

We do most of our own work and I'm in the industry so I have wholesale accounts. I think if you budget about 10% of the boat's value for annual maintenance, repairs, and minor upgrades you will come out okay. Some years you will spend more and some years less. If the boat is well prepared you will spend far less when you're out cruising.

It is always far more economical to purchase a boat that has had a major refit than to take it on yourself. In fact I would not have bought our boat if it had not been extensively refit (new engine, new electronics, new AP, new radar, 100% new electrical system, new ground tackle, topside paint, recent rerig with masts pulled and rewired, etc. etc.)

Although the boat is not for sale I'd estimate the value somewhere between $180K-190K USD. You could buy other Maramus for $120-150K but you could easily have over $200K invested and still not be close to the level of refit. So buy the best boat you can find because there is no such thing as a bargain on a cruising boat.

Good luck in your search. If there's anything I can do to assist just drop me a note.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29
--- In amelyachtowners@..., Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@...> wrote:

Good morning Dave, I really appreciate your response.  For the first 4 years I will live aboard in Texas.  Then slowly travelling starting Caribbean then South America.
I was also told a well cared boat was more cost-efficient to purchase… 
Did you estimate the average yearly cost of your Maramu over the last 2 years?
Thanks again, sincerely, Alexandre



--- On Fri, 11/19/10, Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...> wrote:


From: Dave_Benjamin <dave_benjamin@...>
Subject: [Amel] Re: Amel yearly upkeep cost
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, November 19, 2010, 9:12 PM


 



Alexandre,

I think costs will vary widely depending on location, type of use, and how well the boat has been updated and maintained.

From my limited experience of a little over two years of Maramu ownership I can say that most Amels will be less costly to maintain than other cruising boats. The boat is far better designed than many. This means that a project that could take days on another boat might be done in hours on the Amel. For instance if I had to remove our fuel tank I could get it out rather quickly without taking furniture apart the way you have to on other boats. I replaced our batteries in a few hours. Engine maintenance is a lot easier than on boats with the engine stuffed under the companionway. The exterior is low maintenance with no teak to speak of other than the cockpit.

It is always far more cost effective to purchase a boat that has been well cared for and perhaps had an extensive refit than to buy something that is more of a project.

Whichever Amel you choose I predict you will be quite happy with the boat.

Regards,

Dave Benjamin
Maramu #29

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Alexandre Uster von Baar <uster@> wrote:


I am seriously interested in purchasing an Amel. The SM cost is above my current budget but I am not discarding it, I am considering Maramu, Santorin and even Mango. Would that be possible to get some feedback on the average yearly up keep/ maintenance (once the sailboat is in absolute ready to cruise condition). A French web site mentions 3500 € ($4,900) per year on an SM, this seems a bit low. I am not looking for insurance nor marina fees, just the maintenance/upkeep costs such as hoses, filters, bearings, bushings, seals, etc.
Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Alexandre







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