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Re: [Amel] replacing seal on the rudder stock

deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...>
 

Richard

Thanks for your reply. There is no obvious nut on our rudder post unless it is recessed into the tube through which the rudder post exits the boat. Is the nut on your boat obvious and just a large hex nut? or is it recessed?
Many thanks

Deb and John
Maramu Orion1

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Richard Piller <richard03801@...> wrote:

HI, yes you can replace the seal from inside the aft cabin.
1- Get a large wrench that will adjust to fit the rudder post nut. (you can get
them at West and Defender or other marine stores.)
2- You will have to remove the quadrant on the rudder. That may also mean
taking off the rudder indicator for the auto pilot.
3- There is a tab on the nut to stop it from turning remove it.
4- Remove the quadrant you will need to use some CRC 5 56 or some other
penetrating oil.
5- Remove the big nut on the rudder shaft.
6- Use a pick to remove the old packing.
7- When installing the new packing cut the corners on an angle for a better
seal.
8- We used several rows of packing and coated it with silicon grease.
9- Re-install the nut (do not install the tab yet)
10- install the quadrant and turn the rudder to seat the seal.
11- Re-tighten the rudder nut and install the tab.
Key an eye on it for a while to be sure it has sealed.
Good luck.
Richard on SM 209





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From: deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 12:31:43 PM
Subject: [Amel] replacing seal on the rudder stock


I wonder if you are able to help has anyone replaced the seal on the rudder
stock(shaft) accessible from inside the stern cabin on our Maramu. Some advice
on how would be really helpful.


Thanks

Deb and John
Orion1







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Re: [Amel] Crew available for trans Atlantic

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

Kent,

He is looking for a trans Atlantic and he will be on my boat at that time.

Fair Winds

Eric





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel] Crew available for trans Atlantic





I'm always happy to have another crew for passages, Eric. I'll be heading
south from Norfolk straight to St. Thomas toward the end of Nov. if he wants
to do another trip like that.
Kent
SM 243
KRISTY

--- On Tue, 7/20/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> > wrote:

From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...
<mailto:kimberlite%40optonline.net> >
Subject: [Amel] Crew available for trans Atlantic
To: amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 12:35 AM



One of my crewmembers is looking to do the ARC or any trip across the
Atlantic this winter.

He has made numerous trips offshore to the Caribbean and back with me on my
Amel.

He is about 40 years old and very tall and strong. A good sailor, non smoker
and non drinker.

Intelligent and plays well with others. He has sailed a few times on Amel
Moondog and has also sailed from Ushuaia to South Africa. If anyone needs
crew please contact me. He will also pay his own airfare.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel] DANGER WARNING

karkauai
 

I just had my 3 burner Force10 out for cleaning and found that the hose had been replaced...but too short to get the stove all the way out.  I'll put a new reinforced one on it this time.  Thanks Eric.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

--- On Tue, 7/20/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:


From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
Subject: [Amel] DANGER WARNING
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 12:39 AM


 



I tried to post photos of my stove hose on the photo section but I am not
permitted for some reason.

We had to remove the stove for repairs, a 4 burner Eno stove. To my
amazement and horror the swinging of the stove in the ocean had cut half way
through the hose between the stove and the copper pipe. I was fortunate to
be in St Martin where they made a hydraulic hose for me rated at 6500 psi
with a steel braid core.

The Amel hose is rubber a cloth mesh and more rubber, Check yours before a
big boom happen.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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Re: [Amel] Crew available for trans Atlantic

karkauai
 

I'm always happy to have another crew for passages, Eric.  I'll be heading south from Norfolk straight to St. Thomas toward the end of Nov. if he wants to do another trip like that.
Kent
SM 243
KRISTY

--- On Tue, 7/20/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:


From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
Subject: [Amel] Crew available for trans Atlantic
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 12:35 AM


 



One of my crewmembers is looking to do the ARC or any trip across the
Atlantic this winter.

He has made numerous trips offshore to the Caribbean and back with me on my
Amel.

He is about 40 years old and very tall and strong. A good sailor, non smoker
and non drinker.

Intelligent and plays well with others. He has sailed a few times on Amel
Moondog and has also sailed from Ushuaia to South Africa. If anyone needs
crew please contact me. He will also pay his own airfare.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: Cant upload a photo

lji004 <jose.luis.isasi@...>
 

Hi Eric,

I have checked your profile and nothing is wrong.
I have deleted an old album created by you that was empty.
Do you still have the issue?

Regards
Jose_Luis
Amel Euros 41 (XALOL)

--- In amelyachtowners@..., kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:

I tried to upload a photo and I received this message---does anyone know
why????





Click Select Files to locate each photo on your computer (JPEGs, GIFs, BMPs,
or PNGs). You can select multiple photos at once by holding down Shift. You
can then (de)select individual photos by using the Control/Command key. Be
sure to click Upload when you are done. The total upload of this page cannot
exceed 100MB, and the size of any single file cannot exceed 10M. If you do
not enter a name, your photo's name will be used.Do not upload content you
don't have the right to upload



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Anotherw ay to remove the Main outhaul shaft.

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

I tried to remove the shaft on the main outhaul motor to no avail. I tried
my usual bolt in the bottom trick and hit it with a 5 pound sledge hammer,
to no avail. I then used a chemical called PB used to break rust on blast
furnace door hinges. Also no good. I even used black cap screws to hammer
on the shaft with a sledge hammer ( they are rated at 10,000psi and do not
bend like the s/s/ ones. ----nothing. I tried a torch, nothing.



I finally removed the boom and turned it upside down on the deck. I remove
the bottom plate of the gearbox, with the boom supported at the mast end
with wood and put another black cap screw in the shaft. I cleaned out the
rust and could se the keyway which I loaded up with PB.



I then got a real big sledge hammer and went medieval on the shaft. It
finally moved, and I drove it out. I did bugger up a few threads in the
shaft which I fixed with a tap and all is now well on kimberlite. I will
now, as suggested, remove it every time I change the oil. I am also going to
add zerk fittings to the shaft housing and gearbox so I can grease these
without removing the shaft. I believe being able to really hit the shaft
cleanly in a normal manner and not upside down did the trick. The shaft and
key seemed surprisingly clean, the mating surface in the gearbox seems to be
the problem and rusted.

It was late today when I finally got the shaft out. Does the gearbox of the
shaft have a lip seal on either end? If so does any one have the
specifications?





Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


DANGER WARNING

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

I tried to post photos of my stove hose on the photo section but I am not
permitted for some reason.



We had to remove the stove for repairs, a 4 burner Eno stove. To my
amazement and horror the swinging of the stove in the ocean had cut half way
through the hose between the stove and the copper pipe. I was fortunate to
be in St Martin where they made a hydraulic hose for me rated at 6500 psi
with a steel braid core.



The Amel hose is rubber a cloth mesh and more rubber, Check yours before a
big boom happen.



Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Crew available for trans Atlantic

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

One of my crewmembers is looking to do the ARC or any trip across the
Atlantic this winter.

He has made numerous trips offshore to the Caribbean and back with me on my
Amel.

He is about 40 years old and very tall and strong. A good sailor, non smoker
and non drinker.

Intelligent and plays well with others. He has sailed a few times on Amel
Moondog and has also sailed from Ushuaia to South Africa. If anyone needs
crew please contact me. He will also pay his own airfare.



Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite


Re: [Amel] Re: replacing seal on the rudder stock

Richard03801 <richard03801@...>
 

If you have a flat wrench you can get at the nut without having to remove the cables. And then tighten the nut we ve done it a sea under way. Running befor the wind with the sea pushing we had some slight leakage.

Regards
Richard Piller

On Jul 18, 2010, at 18:16, "Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

I have not replaced it, but I did tighten it. We were getting a little water in rough seas. You have to remove the cables and quadrant...then the lock that holds the large nut. I was able to turn the nut about 1/2 turn...stopped the water.

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "deborah" <woodsdeborah_56@...> wrote:

I wonder if you are able to help has anyone replaced the seal on the rudder stock(shaft) accessible from inside the stern cabin on our Maramu. Some advice on how would be really helpful.

Thanks

Deb and John
Orion1

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Re: replacing seal on the rudder stock

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

I have not replaced it, but I did tighten it. We were getting a little water in rough seas. You have to remove the cables and quadrant...then the lock that holds the large nut. I was able to turn the nut about 1/2 turn...stopped the water.

Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2k, #387
Currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "deborah" <woodsdeborah_56@...> wrote:

I wonder if you are able to help has anyone replaced the seal on the rudder stock(shaft) accessible from inside the stern cabin on our Maramu. Some advice on how would be really helpful.

Thanks

Deb and John
Orion1


Re: [Amel] replacing seal on the rudder stock

Richard Piller <richard03801@...>
 

HI, yes you can replace the seal from inside the aft cabin.
1- Get a large wrench that will adjust to fit the rudder post nut. (you can get
them at West and Defender or other marine stores.)
2- You will have to remove the quadrant on the rudder. That may also mean
taking off the rudder indicator for the auto pilot.
3- There is a tab on the nut to stop it from turning remove it.
4- Remove the quadrant you will need to use some CRC 5 56 or some other
penetrating oil.
5- Remove the big nut on the rudder shaft.
6- Use a pick to remove the old packing.
7- When installing the new packing cut the corners on an angle for a better
seal.
8- We used several rows of packing and coated it with silicon grease.
9- Re-install the nut (do not install the tab yet)
10- install the quadrant and turn the rudder to seat the seal.
11- Re-tighten the rudder nut and install the tab.
Key an eye on it for a while to be sure it has sealed.
Good luck.
Richard on SM 209





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From: deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Sun, July 18, 2010 12:31:43 PM
Subject: [Amel] replacing seal on the rudder stock


I wonder if you are able to help has anyone replaced the seal on the rudder
stock(shaft) accessible from inside the stern cabin on our Maramu. Some advice
on how would be really helpful.


Thanks

Deb and John
Orion1







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replacing seal on the rudder stock

deborah <woodsdeborah_56@...>
 

I wonder if you are able to help has anyone replaced the seal on the rudder stock(shaft) accessible from inside the stern cabin on our Maramu. Some advice on how would be really helpful.

Thanks

Deb and John
Orion1


Re: [Amel] Numbers for Rubber companionway seal

karkauai
 

Thanks, Eric.  That's the same number that Ian put on the site a couple years ago.  I can't seem to find it online.  Renault's contact info requires auto model numbers, year, etc.  Has anyone found this product without going thru Amel?
 
I'd really like to have the seal in place. I am aggravated enough at the Amel price that I'm determined to find it without going thru them.  They won't send me the little sliders for the curtains without using FedEx which will cost waaaay more than the sliders.  Still trying to find them without using Amel.  I read that Amel really stands behind their product, but they sure are difficult to deal with and they charge enough for replacement parts that it's really just gouging.  If it weren't for this web site and the rest of you folks, I'd be pulling my hair out...well I'd be rubbing my head raw. (-:
Thanks again,
Kent
SM 243
KRISTY

--- On Sun, 7/18/10, kimberlite@... <kimberlite@...> wrote:


From: kimberlite@... <kimberlite@...>
Subject: [Amel] Numbers for Rubber companionway seal
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, July 18, 2010, 2:05 AM


 




The part number i have for the seal I received from Amel is renault #77 00 640 249

line 2 is UV1

If you do not have this seal in place and get pooped you will have a hell of a lot of water inside the boat.
Fair Winds
eric sm376

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Numbers for Rubber companionway seal

kimberlite@...
 

The part number i have for the seal I received from Amel is renault #77 00 640 249

line 2 is UV1

If you do not have this seal in place and get pooped you will have a hell of a lot of water inside the boat.
Fair Winds
eric sm376

----- Original Message -----
From: Kent Robertson
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel] Re: Rubber companionway seal
To: amelyachtowners@...


Thanks, Craig. I may just do that. The companionway door sure
does slide up and down nicely without a seal in there.
Kent




Re: [Amel] Re: Rubber companionway seal

karkauai
 

Thanks, Craig.  I may just do that.  The companionway door sure does slide up and down nicely without a seal in there.
Kent

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Re: [Amel] Berth length

Lars H. Knudsen <museum@...>
 

I am myself 184 cm (don’t know how much that’s in feet/inches) and yes, the berths are a bit short for me. But when sailing it’s no problem and moored you can fit the extra width inserts and sleep slightly diagonal. I have thought of a more permanent solution involving cutting a hole in the aft bulkhead and prolonging the berths around 10-15 cm. This can probably be done nicely and naturally totally secure and watertight as things should be on an Amel.



Lars, Santorin #79 Salvagny.



Fra: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] På vegne af Ric
Sendt: 14. juli 2010 22:40
Til: amelyachtowners@...
Emne: Re: [Amel] Berth length





I have a santorin SN24. I am 6'2" and yes stretched out u just fit in
the aft cabin. However, in the thousands of miles on the heel against
a lee board or partially curled up (normal sleep position), its fine.
It is the standing room at the step up that's tight, so dressing is
best next to the head. The bow berths are fine and frankly in a blow
more secure.

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24

On Jul 10, 2010, at 3:53 PM, "goulty2002" <goulty@... <mailto:goulty%40gmail.com> > wrote:

HI,
I thought the Santorin I viewed last week was my dream boat, but I
am 6'2" and my two lads are taller. The berths were so small both my
head and feet were on the bulkheads. What a shame when so much space
had been wasted on engine and rear lockers. I can see no way to find
some extra length and certainly cannot feel like I am standing up
all night.
I doubt that I can afford to run any of the bigger models so has
anyone got any good ideas to find an Amel that I can sleep in?
( other than a family deal on leg shortening)

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[Amel] Re: Rubber companionway seal

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Kent,
We replaced our deteriorating plywood companionway with a medium tinted plexiglass, which is absolutely super for letting light in when you're closed up either in inclement weather or simply for security while sleeping. Our weather stripping had failed and we didn't want to risk scratching the new plexiglass, so we simply removed it. There's only about a 1/16 inch gap left and the only time water gets in is when we wash down the cockpit - then it drains into the bilge sump thru the hose at the bottom of the well. Keeps it clean. So no replacement at all might be a fine option to consider - I can't imagine it being a safety issue. If you get pooped it would still drain down the hose just fine - but as I recall you're not going around Cape Horn :-)
Cheers,
Craig
From: Kent Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:55 PM
Subject: [Amel] Re: Rubber companionway seal
... still haven't found a seal
that will work for the companionway door.
...> Thanks,
Kent
SM243
KRISTY


Re: [Amel] Berth length

Ric <ric@...>
 

I have a santorin SN24. I am 6'2" and yes stretched out u just fit in
the aft cabin. However, in the thousands of miles on the heel against
a lee board or partially curled up (normal sleep position), its fine.
It is the standing room at the step up that's tight, so dressing is
best next to the head. The bow berths are fine and frankly in a blow
more secure.

Ric Gottschalk
Bali Hai SN24

On Jul 10, 2010, at 3:53 PM, "goulty2002" <goulty@...> wrote:

HI,
I thought the Santorin I viewed last week was my dream boat, but I
am 6'2" and my two lads are taller. The berths were so small both my
head and feet were on the bulkheads. What a shame when so much space
had been wasted on engine and rear lockers. I can see no way to find
some extra length and certainly cannot feel like I am standing up
all night.
I doubt that I can afford to run any of the bigger models so has
anyone got any good ideas to find an Amel that I can sleep in?
( other than a family deal on leg shortening)


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Re: [Amel] Re: Rubber companionway seal

karkauai
 

Thanks, Eric.  Ian put the Renault part number on the website in 2009 "The Renault part number is 77 00 640 249 followed by the letters UV 1. There is also another number on the
label which is 1MDXPG. I cannot find the invoice right now but I believe that the Amel price for this seal was round 80 Euros plus shipping!" I tried using those numbers, but it didn't ring any bells when I went on line and tried to order it.  Even went on the Renault owners' website and posted a ?, but no help.  If you have a different number than that, please do send it along.
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

--- On Wed, 7/14/10, kimberlite <kimberlite@...> wrote:


From: kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Rubber companionway seal
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, July 14, 2010, 3:03 PM


 



Hi,

Please wait a few days until I get to the boat I have the Renault part
number. It is much longer than the companionway and has an angle cut on the
end. It needs to be cut to fit

.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite

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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: Rubber companionway seal

Well, here I am again almost a year later and still haven't found a seal
that will work for the companionway door. Been to Home Depot, auto supply
stores, on line w/Renault owners' blog...running out of ideas. Anyone have
any luck finding this anywhere besides Amel?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
KRISTY

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Re: [Amel] Re: Rubber companionway seal

kimberlite <kimberlite@...>
 

Hi,

Please wait a few days until I get to the boat I have the Renault part
number. It is much longer than the companionway and has an angle cut on the
end. It needs to be cut to fit

.

Fair Winds

Eric

Amel Super Maramu #376 Kimberlite





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From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Kent Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:55 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: Rubber companionway seal





Well, here I am again almost a year later and still haven't found a seal
that will work for the companionway door. Been to Home Depot, auto supply
stores, on line w/Renault owners' blog...running out of ideas. Anyone have
any luck finding this anywhere besides Amel?
Thanks,
Kent
SM243
KRISTY