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Re: Davits Manufacturer

Zanareva
 

Vito,

I received the following from Mr. Selo at Amel:

"The davits you have seen are not available from Amel but you can get
them from the company mentioned below:"

SECTEUR BLANC
Secteurblanc@aol.com
Cell-phone : 06 08 89 85 57


Power lead for SSB

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello

I am looking into installing an SSB radio on my SM. Because of the
need for 12 volt power and the hi amp draw on send 23A. The installer
is recomending that I wire th radio to the starting battery. This
seems like asking for trouble. Dead starting battery just when you
need it. How have some of you handled the installation.

Thank you


Vito Ciaravino


Davits Manufacturer

asm283 <no_reply@...>
 

Hello

Some of you have written in this forum that there is a manufacturer
in La Rochelle that makes an exellent davits for the Super Maramu.
Does anyone konw the name and contact information. Has anyone
purchased and installed these davits. If so what was your experience.

Thank You


Vito Ciaravino


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: looking for a new engine

Luis Gonzalez Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
 

Adam,
Thank you for your info.Now I have clear up some basic questions.
Regards from Med. ( now quite cold).
Luis
"amelmango <chiefnelson@hotmail.com>" <chiefnelson@hotmail.com> wrote:Luis,
I think the calculation for hull speed is the square root of
waterline times 1.2-1.4. The varible factor is for a lower surface,
medium displacement sailing hull form. So for a Mango: sq. rt. of
41.5=6.5x1.2=7.8 kts to 6.5x1.4=9.1 kts
My old 80 HP 4-236 with a fixed 3 blade will make 9 kts in low
seas and 8 kts in medium seas. So, I'd guess that you'd be wasting
HP at anything over 100 HP. Like I said before, I'd want to talk
with the prop folks to what they thought of cranking in some more
pitch to cope with the increased HP.
Best regards,
Adam


Adam,
Thank you for your advice.Do you know which is the maximum speed
that this boat can reach considering only her length over water, and
what do you think about the convenient maximum horse power for the
engine.
Kind regards,
Luis


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Re: looking for a new engine

amelmango <chiefnelson@hotmail.com> <chiefnelson@...>
 

Luis,
I think the calculation for hull speed is the square root of
waterline times 1.2-1.4. The varible factor is for a lower surface,
medium displacement sailing hull form. So for a Mango: sq. rt. of
41.5=6.5x1.2=7.8 kts to 6.5x1.4=9.1 kts
My old 80 HP 4-236 with a fixed 3 blade will make 9 kts in low
seas and 8 kts in medium seas. So, I'd guess that you'd be wasting
HP at anything over 100 HP. Like I said before, I'd want to talk
with the prop folks to what they thought of cranking in some more
pitch to cope with the increased HP.
Best regards,
Adam


Adam,
Thank you for your advice.Do you know which is the maximum speed
that this boat can reach considering only her length over water, and
what do you think about the convenient maximum horse power for the
engine.
Kind regards,
Luis


Autopropellers

John and Anne on Bali Hai <hollamby@compuserve.com> <hollamby@...>
 

From Bali Hai, SM 319

We have had a letter from Brunton Autoprops saying that there is a
potential problem with the propeller. It appears that it is not a
danger issue but they are recalling for modification prop nos AP2902-
AP5299 at their expense. They will pay for shipping and return via
DHL. The time frame is not mentioned.
The No of our Propeller is in the Brunton booklet in the Amel file
(we are AP3270). If it has to be sent back all is not lost as Amel,
with their usual efficiency, have provided a fixed two blade prop
with our boat.
If you have not had the letter and want more information the address
is service@bruntons-propellers.com

Anne and John


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: looking for a new engine

Luis Gonzalez Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
 

Luis Gonzalez Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es> wrote:

Luis Gonzalez Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es> wrote:

Luis Gonzalez Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@yahoo.es> wrote:
Adam,
Thank you for your advice.Do you know which is the maximum speed that this boat can reach considering only her length over water, and what do you think about the convenient maximum horse power for the engine.
Kind regards,
Luis
"amelmango <chiefnelson@hotmail.com>" <chiefnelson@hotmail.com> wrote:Luis,
My Mango has the Prekins 4-236 which has proved to be a great
engine for the boat. If you must have more horsepower for some
reason, Perkins turbocharges the 4-236. It would then fit on the
same mounts, would be able to use the same transmission (although I
would add a oil cooler to the Hurth if not already fitted), and use
the same shafting, etc. However, if you go with too much boost, ie
HP, you will have to increase the shaft size which means a new stern
tube which will translate into a lot of money for a questionable need
of more HP. There are a few more issues like exhaust size, waterlift
size, and of course you will have to see how you will prop for an
increase in HP with an already close tip clearance. Research it well
before you repower is the best advice.
Best regards,
Adam


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: looking for a new engine

Luis Gonzalez Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
 

Adam,
Thank you for your advice.Do you know which is the maximum speed that this boat can reach considering only her length over water, and what do you think about the convenient maximum horse power for the engine.
Kind regards,
Luis
"amelmango <chiefnelson@hotmail.com>" <chiefnelson@hotmail.com> wrote:Luis,
My Mango has the Prekins 4-236 which has proved to be a great
engine for the boat. If you must have more horsepower for some
reason, Perkins turbocharges the 4-236. It would then fit on the
same mounts, would be able to use the same transmission (although I
would add a oil cooler to the Hurth if not already fitted), and use
the same shafting, etc. However, if you go with too much boost, ie
HP, you will have to increase the shaft size which means a new stern
tube which will translate into a lot of money for a questionable need
of more HP. There are a few more issues like exhaust size, waterlift
size, and of course you will have to see how you will prop for an
increase in HP with an already close tip clearance. Research it well
before you repower is the best advice.
Best regards,
Adam


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Re: looking for a new engine

amelmango <chiefnelson@hotmail.com> <chiefnelson@...>
 

Luis,
My Mango has the Prekins 4-236 which has proved to be a great
engine for the boat. If you must have more horsepower for some
reason, Perkins turbocharges the 4-236. It would then fit on the
same mounts, would be able to use the same transmission (although I
would add a oil cooler to the Hurth if not already fitted), and use
the same shafting, etc. However, if you go with too much boost, ie
HP, you will have to increase the shaft size which means a new stern
tube which will translate into a lot of money for a questionable need
of more HP. There are a few more issues like exhaust size, waterlift
size, and of course you will have to see how you will prop for an
increase in HP with an already close tip clearance. Research it well
before you repower is the best advice.
Best regards,
Adam


looking for a new engine

Luis Gonzalez Vallejo <l_gonzalezvallejo@...>
 

My Amel Mango needs a new engine .I ask your advise to choose an engine in the range over 100 HP suitable for this boat.

Regards from eastern mediterranean coast of Spain,

Luis


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: headliner problems

Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>
 

I know that this will no be much comfort to those owners that have experienced head liner problems, but I think it maybe worth mentioning that Jacques Carteau, Amyl's architect (now semi retired by the way), did mention to me recently when I brought up this recurring problem, that they have changed the glue, and I think the backing material. I had expressed concern about heat build up when leaving the water tight doors closed in the tropics. Jacques assured me that the problem had now been eradicated, which may be of interest if you are thinking of getting the head liners replaced at La Rochelle.

I also noticed at the Paris Boat Show that they no longer use the rubbery backing material on the underside of the carpets. My carpets began to crumble after a while, and so this will be a welcome improvement too. The great thing about Amel is that they never stop looking for improvements.

Best Wishes

Ian Shepherd SM #299 "Crusader"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] headliner problems

DHession@...
 

John , Thanks for the tip . I thought about just that for the main salon .
I'm glad to hear that you saw it done and liked it . This may be the answer .
Terry


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: headliner problems

DHession@...
 

Delores ,
Thanks a lot for the tip . I bet it looks great .
Terry


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: headliner problems

Szabo Geza <szabog@...>
 

Hi,

I have the same problem. Could you be a littre more specific?
What does the ash? How strong is the vinyl?
How did you put this up where the ceiling has 90 degree curvature?

Thanks

Geza

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:16 AM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: headliner problems


Terry,

In our 41 Sharki, we had 3/8" tongue/groove ash milled for us. We
directly covered the vinyl and screwed into the ceiling with no
problems. We did main cabin first 2 years ago and no problems. We
did V-berth this past December. We did ourselves with a little
instruction from a woodworking friend. It looks great! Now on to
the back berth! Then we will tackle the "halls".

Delores


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Re: headliner problems

stargazer41amel <no_reply@...>
 

Terry,

In our 41 Sharki, we had 3/8" tongue/groove ash milled for us. We
directly covered the vinyl and screwed into the ceiling with no
problems. We did main cabin first 2 years ago and no problems. We
did V-berth this past December. We did ourselves with a little
instruction from a woodworking friend. It looks great! Now on to
the back berth! Then we will tackle the "halls".

Delores


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] headliner problems

John Martin <jjmartin24@...>
 

Terry, I looked at a 92 SM last year and he had the same problem. its very expensive and labor intensive to take down and replace the head liner. His solution,which i saw before and after was to match the thin strips of wood on the ceiling above the dinnett table . He then screwed them to the ceiling about 18 inches apart throughout the boat to hold up the existing fabric.It looked a little like a classic schooner ceiling but it was attractive and very reasonable. John SM 248
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To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] headliner problems


The foam backed headliner/ wallcovering that Amel used
in 1989 on my Maramu is falling down/off as it seems
the foam has dissolved .
Does anyone have a good replacement product that will
solve this problem ?
If so , please respond as all my attempts to repair have
been unsatisfactory to date .
Thanks in advance.
Terry


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headliner problems

svmarion <DHession@aol.com> <DHession@...>
 

The foam backed headliner/ wallcovering that Amel used
in 1989 on my Maramu is falling down/off as it seems
the foam has dissolved .
Does anyone have a good replacement product that will
solve this problem ?
If so , please respond as all my attempts to repair have
been unsatisfactory to date .
Thanks in advance.
Terry


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 3 topics

Ian Shepherd <g4ljf@...>
 

Blue Water Toilet Flush

Hi John & Vito,

yes I did read with interest what John is trying to do. For Crusader I bought an inline unit from West Marine (sorry but I don't have a catalogue to hand). However it was the type that has a screw cap and pipe outlets on each side and takes cylindrical solid pellets of the blue stuff. I mounted it to a bracket that I made which was then riveted above the water maker inlet filter. I cut the feed to one of the toilet sea water pumps and connected it to the unit. I then tee'd both pumps to the outlet side, having removed and capped one of the feed pipes from the manifold on the forward engine room bulkhead.

It worked well, though the supplied pellets did not last long, so I ended up by buying regular household pellets and breaking them into small pieces with a pair of pliers ...it's cheaper but messy! The trick of using these cheaper pellets is only to use a small piece at a time, else you get a sludge in the dispensing unit that blocks up the tiny exit holes.

I am sure that it helped with the 'smell' problem, though it is messy and you can end up getting the blue all over the place! For my new boat, I shall try a couple of those pellet holders that simply hang from the inside of the toilet bowl. I have seen them on another yacht and they seem to work well, though it won't cure the stagnant water problem when the boat is left unattended. The only way that I see to cure that is either to connect to the fresh water tank (via a swan neck), or for Amel to have an inlet adjacent to each toilet, as is done on most boats. However, I fully understand that they do not do this in order to stick to their philosophy of minimising through hull connections.

I would appreciate feedback from anyone who is successfully flushing their toilets from the fresh water tank.

Regards

Ian Shepherd

SM #299


Santorin Stability Curve

GrahamJohnston42 <grahamjohnston42@yahoo.com>
 

Has anyone got access to the Stabilty Curve for the Santorin, my wife
would like to be reassured? I feel sure that all is well but I must
convince the First Mate.


WindPilot

Juan GV <oceanis44@...>
 

Hola a todos !

Veo que el foro se desarrolla solamente en inglés, y lamentablemente no puedo plantear mi consulta en dicho idioma, ya que no lo domino. De todas formas, adjuntaré una traducción de ordenador de este escrito.
La pregunta es
¿Alguien puede darme referencias sobre el funcionamiento del piloto WindPilot en un SM, o mejor aún, en un Mango?
¿Es aconsejable? ¿Eficaz? ¿A que rumbos? ¿Con cuanto viento?
En las referencias que da WindPilot he visto tanto un SM como un Mango (Easy Lady de Houston), pero no se si entre los asiduos al foro habrá algún usuario de este piloto de viento.

Gracias y .... buen viento a todos

Juan García
Mango 56


Hello to all!

I see that the forum is only developed in English, and regrettably I cannot outline my consultation in this language, since I don't dominate him. In all ways, I will attach a translation of computer in this writing.
The question is
Can somebody give me references of the pilot's operation WindPilot in a SM, or better still, in a Mango?
Is it advisable? Effective? To what bearings? With how much wind?
In the references that he gives WindPilot I have seen as much a SM as a Mango (Easy Lady of Houston), but I not know if among the regular to the forum will have a user this pilot of wind .

Thank you and.... good wind to all

Juan García
Mango 56


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