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Re: [Amel] out haul gearbox and cruising South Pacific

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi John and  Anne, your boat name? Thanks for the Pacific info, much appreciated. The engineers used a big oxy acetelene torch. You could try the butane but it may not have enough grunt. Watch out for heat getting onto the alloy mounting frame on the boom and the boom itself. To make the job more accessable I inverted the boom. I took the goose neck bolt out, rolled the boom over and put the bolt back in. (took the boom vang off first)

Danny and Yvonne SM 299 Ocean Pearl
www.getjealous.com/danneve

--- On Fri, 14/5/10, Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...> wrote:


From: Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] out haul gearbox and cruising South Pacific
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Friday, 14 May, 2010, 10:11 PM


 



Hello Danny and Yvonne,
I have a butane gas burner, is this what they used to free the shaft?
When we crossed the Pacific somefifteen years ago we found that it was only possible to get diesel in The Galapagos through the Port Captain who arranged delivery to our boat in a series of cans of every size so it was not possible to know how much was delivered. It was dirty fuel and short measure. We told them this and they came back with the balance.
When you get to Marquesas try the grapefruit which are huge and sweet, we wish we had kept some of the pips to try to grow some at home. Most of the Pacific Islanders are very friendly despite their poverty and a few gifts are very acceptable to them, items such as snorkels and goggles for example. If you have a watermaker and a large can fresh water (to take some ashore) is highly desirable as there is a long dry spell which we suppose is why the very basic shop has Pampers as well as a few foods, rice and flour etc. If your hosts have a baby no doubt a gift of Pampers would be very acceptable as they were horribly expensive in the shop. Some islands may invite you to join their non existant yacht club for ten or fifteen dollars, this is a good way of giving them some money without them losing face.
There used to be a Festival of the S. Pacific held on a different island each year where all the other islands, including Oz and NZ sent people to compete with their indiginous talents. If it is still going on it is a wonderful experience. Tahiti is a fascinating place especially in the week or so starting June 14 when Bastille Day is celebrated to open the events. One thing we did not like was being somewhere at the same time as a round the world rally as the participants were in a huge hurry to get repairs done and had no time to enjoy the place whilst they were absorbing a lot of the places short supplies of food,fuel etc.
Enjoy your trip, we envy you. Best wishes, Anne and John SM 319

----- Original Message -----
From: Danny and Yvonne
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:28 PM
Subject: [Amel] out haul gearbox

Hi all from warm Panama.
While at Shelter Bay marina in Colon I admitted defeat about getting the cetre shaft out of the outhaul gearbox and asked the yard for assistance. I suggesed heating with a gas torch but the man brought a large puller and a large hammer. Net result shaft still in place and one gearbox end plate smashed. Got outside engineers with a gas torch and after a moderate heating, a couple of taps and out it came. Had a new end plate turned and now all is well. Salutory lesson: beware man with large puller and large hammer. A little heat goes a long way.
Lastly, To periodically remove the centre shaft and re grease is so easy, undo a bolt at each end and it slips out. The main furler has 4 bolts to remove it from the mast and then just one to get the shaft out. I am going to remove and grease mine each time I change my engine oil. (the oil change sets an easy memory hook)I have no intention of letting mine get stuck again
We depart for the Galapagos and the Pacific in a day or two.
Regards to you all
Danny and Yvonne
SM 299 Ocean Pearl










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Re: [Amel] out haul gearbox and cruising South Pacific

Anne and John Hollamby <annejohnholl@...>
 

Hello Danny and Yvonne,
I have a butane gas burner, is this what they used to free the shaft?
When we crossed the Pacific somefifteen years ago we found that it was only possible to get diesel in The Galapagos through the Port Captain who arranged delivery to our boat in a series of cans of every size so it was not possible to know how much was delivered. It was dirty fuel and short measure. We told them this and they came back with the balance.
When you get to Marquesas try the grapefruit which are huge and sweet, we wish we had kept some of the pips to try to grow some at home. Most of the Pacific Islanders are very friendly despite their poverty and a few gifts are very acceptable to them, items such as snorkels and goggles for example. If you have a watermaker and a large can fresh water (to take some ashore) is highly desirable as there is a long dry spell which we suppose is why the very basic shop has Pampers as well as a few foods, rice and flour etc. If your hosts have a baby no doubt a gift of Pampers would be very acceptable as they were horribly expensive in the shop. Some islands may invite you to join their non existant yacht club for ten or fifteen dollars, this is a good way of giving them some money without them losing face.
There used to be a Festival of the S. Pacific held on a different island each year where all the other islands, including Oz and NZ sent people to compete with their indiginous talents. If it is still going on it is a wonderful experience. Tahiti is a fascinating place especially in the week or so starting June 14 when Bastille Day is celebrated to open the events. One thing we did not like was being somewhere at the same time as a round the world rally as the participants were in a huge hurry to get repairs done and had no time to enjoy the place whilst they were absorbing a lot of the places short supplies of food,fuel etc.
Enjoy your trip, we envy you. Best wishes, Anne and John SM 319

----- Original Message -----
From: Danny and Yvonne
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:28 PM
Subject: [Amel] out haul gearbox



Hi all from warm Panama.
While at Shelter Bay marina in Colon I admitted defeat about getting the cetre shaft out of the outhaul gearbox and asked the yard for assistance. I suggesed heating with a gas torch but the man brought a large puller and a large hammer. Net result shaft still in place and one gearbox end plate smashed. Got outside engineers with a gas torch and after a moderate heating, a couple of taps and out it came. Had a new end plate turned and now all is well. Salutory lesson: beware man with large puller and large hammer. A little heat goes a long way.
Lastly, To periodically remove the centre shaft and re grease is so easy, undo a bolt at each end and it slips out. The main furler has 4 bolts to remove it from the mast and then just one to get the shaft out. I am going to remove and grease mine each time I change my engine oil. (the oil change sets an easy memory hook)I have no intention of letting mine get stuck again
We depart for the Galapagos and the Pacific in a day or two.
Regards to you all
Danny and Yvonne
SM 299 Ocean Pearl


out haul gearbox

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi all from warm Panama.
While at Shelter Bay marina in Colon I admitted defeat about getting the cetre shaft out of the outhaul gearbox and asked the yard for assistance. I suggesed heating with a gas torch but the man brought a large puller and a large hammer. Net result shaft still in place and one gearbox end plate smashed. Got outside engineers with a gas torch and after a moderate heating, a couple of taps and out it came. Had a new end plate turned and now all is well. Salutory lesson: beware man with large puller and large hammer. A little heat goes a long way.
Lastly, To periodically remove the centre shaft and re grease is so easy, undo a bolt at each end and it slips out. The main furler has 4 bolts to remove it from the mast and then just one to get the shaft out. I am going to remove and grease mine each time I change my engine oil. (the oil change sets an easy memory hook)I have no intention of letting mine get stuck again
We depart for the Galapagos and the Pacific in a day or two.
Regards to you all
Danny and Yvonne
SM 299 Ocean Pearl


Santorin owners, Are you happy? what will be your next boat?

Lars H. Knudsen <museum@...>
 

I am the owner of Santorin #79 from 1993.



I have had no complaints to the yard, no mechanical trouble and generally
the boat is almost maintenance free and extremely well built.

Only serious problem I have had is with the vinyl liner which is falling
down due to rubber foam deteoriation. This is a problem with all Amel yachts
before 1994 and is something you should look for when in the process of
buying.



And look for "unauthorized" modifications to the electrical system. The
former owner of my boat was an engineer and thought that he could do things
better than the Amel yard. How wrong it turned out he was with bad
connections and undocumented "smart" solutions that I had to redo the proper
way.



With speeds up to 9 knots I have no complaints about the boats performance.
I fully agree that an Amel is not a sports boat - and many thanks for that!



Regards,

Lars

Santorin Salvagny


Re: Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?

Dave_Benjamin
 

Amalia,

We have owned our Maramu for two years, lived aboard full time, and been out cruising Mexico the past six months. The Amel is a fantastic voyaging boat. The Dehler you mentioned is not in the same category. However if you wanted something for daysailing and just occasional coastal cruise or overnight you might be happier with something a bit more "sporty" than the Amel. Amels are built for cruising and are efficient passagemakers. Our plans will take us to Southeast Asia and for us the Amel is a great platform and is the reason we bought the boat.

Cheers,
Dave Benjamin
S/V Exit Strategy
Maramu #29

--- In amelyachtowners@..., Amalia Sunto <amalia.sunto@...> wrote:







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Rephrase - Santorin owners, Are you happy? what will be your next boat?

Amalia Sunto
 

What 'sicknesses have you experienced?
About what you have found yourselves complaining more than once?
What 'traditional problems' you have on these boats normally?


Re: [Amel] Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?

richard03801@...
 

Mr Sunto
This is our 2sd Amel we have 4 years on this 12 year old boat and have NOT had the kinds of issues you forecasted. We have changed seals and bearings in accordance with the Amel schedule and added new sails after 10 years and 40k miles no winch change we did change the windlase and modernized the radar and such.
Now sailing wise she'll do 200 mile days in comfort day in a day out in 15-20 kts. Amels are not sportive they are comfortably fast.
Good luck hope this helps.
Richard SM209
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-----Original Message-----
From: Amalia Sunto <amalia.sunto@...>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:34:06
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?

Thanks Richard,
The info I am looking for is just general impression from professional or owner who knows the boat well, i.e: 'the santorinn is
very lazy compare to Dehler but much more convenient to handle, must of
the owners will witness that the electric folding winch will need
replacement every 5 years and the bow thruster could be much better with the normal arrangement but not the hydraulic system...'

this is the type of info I am looking for, not too technical but s/thing which will give me the feel of what advantages / disadvantages are expected...




________________________________
From: "richard03801@..." <richard03801@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 10:28:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?


What kind of info are you looking for? There is a great deal of tech information on this website. You Could also contact Joel Potter in the U. S. He has a number of good boats for sale.
Good luck and welcome to Amel ownership they are great boats
Richard SM209
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-----Original Message-----
From: Amalia Sunto <amalia.sunto@ yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:20:01
To: <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>
Subject: [Amel] Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?


Re: [Amel] Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?

Amalia Sunto
 

Thanks Richard,
The info I am looking for is just general impression from professional or owner who knows the boat well, i.e: 'the santorinn is
very lazy compare to Dehler but much more convenient to handle, must of
the owners will witness that the electric folding winch will need
replacement every 5 years and the bow thruster could be much better with the normal arrangement but not the hydraulic system...'

this is the type of info I am looking for, not too technical but s/thing which will give me the feel of what advantages / disadvantages are expected...




________________________________
From: "richard03801@..." <richard03801@...>
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Mon, May 10, 2010 10:28:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Amel] Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?


What kind of info are you looking for? There is a great deal of tech information on this website. You Could also contact Joel Potter in the U. S. He has a number of good boats for sale.
Good luck and welcome to Amel ownership they are great boats
Richard SM209
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Amalia Sunto <amalia.sunto@ yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:20:01
To: <amelyachtowners@ yahoogroups. com>
Subject: [Amel] Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?



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Re: [Amel] Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?

richard03801@...
 

What kind of info are you looking for? There is a great deal of tech information on this website. You Could also contact Joel Potter in the U. S. He has a number of good boats for sale.
Good luck and welcome to Amel ownership they are great boats
Richard SM209
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message-----
From: Amalia Sunto <amalia.sunto@...>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:20:01
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: [Amel] Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?


Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - where?

Amalia Sunto
 


Massage

Amalia Sunto
 

Hi, about to buy Amel Santorin, have not managed to see ANY review / or technical details on the web - as well not from the factory - any idea where can be found???


Re: [Amel] 24 Volt Alternator charger

edmund_steele
 

The field coil on the 24V alternator has to be supplied with voltage before it will generate power. The 12V alternator gets its field power from the starter battery via the starter switch. The configurations are all slightly different but SM 331 got power for the 24V field coil from the house batteries via a relay. The relay was triggered by 12V coming from the starter switch. It is likely that this relay is bad on your setup. You can test this by metering the 24 volt field coil contacts on the alternator - after turning on the starter switch "power" (so that the lights / meters come on) but before hitting the starter. You should have 24V power to the alternator. Check the voltage. If it is low you may have a dirty connection somewhere. BTW, to prevent overcharging during long periods of motoring in hot conditions, you can just disconnect the field coil wires before starting the engine and there will be no power output from the alternator. To begin charging while the engine is running, you just reconnect the field coil.
Fair Winds,
Ed Steele


Re: [Amel] 24 Volt Alternator charger

richard03801@...
 

When you check the voltage coming to/at the batteries do you get less then 24 or more volts? If no check the regulator.

Are your batteries full of liquid? Can you check the specific gravity and are ALL cells good? If any! Cell in a battery is bad get a new battery.

Good luck
Richard SM209


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-----Original Message-----
From: "jlm@..." <jlm@...>
Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 10:02:57
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel] 24 Volt Alternator charger

It is easy to check:

1. IF alternator current Ialf=0A then *Voltage must be 28V* AND
battery voltage must be 28V
2. IF that is correct either battery is down or connections are not good


jlm
CottonBay
------------------------------------------------------------------------
LaFrance a crit :


Our 24 V alternator from the Yanmar engine is not charging our
batteries. We have had the alternator checked and it is fine. Is there
a sensor switch somewhere that regulates the amount of charge being
sent to the battery bank?
Paul & Sue
SV Nomad SM 362


Re: [Amel] 24 Volt Alternator charger

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

It is easy to check:

1. IF alternator current Ialf=0A then *Voltage must be 28V* AND
battery voltage must be 28V
2. IF that is correct either battery is down or connections are not good


jlm
CottonBay
------------------------------------------------------------------------
LaFrance a écrit :


Our 24 V alternator from the Yanmar engine is not charging our
batteries. We have had the alternator checked and it is fine. Is there
a sensor switch somewhere that regulates the amount of charge being
sent to the battery bank?
Paul & Sue
SV Nomad SM 362



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24 Volt Alternator charger

LaFrance <pflafrance@...>
 

Our 24 V alternator from the Yanmar engine is not charging our batteries. We have had the alternator checked and it is fine. Is there a sensor switch somewhere that regulates the amount of charge being sent to the battery bank?
Paul & Sue
SV Nomad SM 362


Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

Dave_Benjamin
 

Jean and I have spent many pleasant hours aboard S/V Jonathan and it is a meticulously well maintained boat. I can rarely say there is a boat that is truly ready to cruise, just bring your toothbrush, but Jonathan meets that criteria.

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Claus" <cvdhwoe@...> wrote:

Hi Susan,

If you are still looking for your Super Maramu you may have a look at sv-jonathan dot de. It is all in English.

Good luck

Claus

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@> wrote:

Fantastic! Thanks, Bill.

Susan

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svbebe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

There is an Amel Super Maramu in NC. The owner has well cared for her.

He was part of this group, but I have not seen him post anything in some time. You can contact the owner at agav8ter"at"yahoo.com

I found his Amel at http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1999/Amel-Millennium-2000-Super-Maramu-2078128/Wilmington/NC/United-States

Also, it goes without saying that the absolute expert in the US on Amels is Joel Potter...you are talking to the right person.


Hope this helps.

Best,


Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@> wrote:

WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have for first time buyers would be appreciated.


R: [Amel] Re: Gulf of Venice & Roccella Ionica

"Attilio & Maria Santorin#84 “Sisila” <attilio.siviero@...>
 

Hi Craig, are yoi in Monfalcone? Next w/e I'll be in Cagliari to see Sisila, but the following I'll be happy to meet you to chat about our boats. Regartds
Attilio e Maria
------Messaggio originale------
Da: sv Sangaris
Mittente:amelyachtowners@...
A:amelyachtowners@...
Rispondi a:amelyachtowners@...
Oggetto: [Amel] Re: Gulf of Venice & Roccella Ionica
Inviato: 12 Apr 2010 16:57

  Ivar, We were in Roccella Ionica last year - no problem with depth and they were dredging the entrance, which should be done by now. We stayed several days with no charge because they had not "formally" begun operating as a marina. Only water was avaialble at the slip (no electricity) . We understand they have now begun regular operations and are charging - rumors were they were quite reasonable but I don't know for sure. Craig and Katherine Briggs s/v Sangaris, Santorin #68 in Monfalcone, It.

Attilio & Maria Santorin#84 “Sisila” with BlackBerry®


[Amel] Re: Main outhaul gearbox

Judy and Bill aboard SV BeBe <yahoogroups@...>
 

Jim,

If Bruce Winship bruce"at"shelterbaymarina.com is there, then yes, I would have complete confidence that he will get the work done. At the time we were there, we got to know Bruce fairly well. He is a cruiser who is also a building construction engineer. He supervised most of the construction of Shelter Bay. When we were there, Bruce had a yard crew of about 6-10 employees and he also had several independent marine mechanical and engineering firms that he used as subcontractors.

Email him and see what he says.

Also, if you will email me your email address (bill"at"svbebe.com), I will send your email address to the owner of Shelter Bay and get him in the loop for you.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, #387
Currently Malaysia
blog: http://www.svbebe.com

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "Jim Dernehl" <jim.dernehl@...> wrote:

Bill,

I am very close to bringing my boat to Shelter Bay Marina from
Boca's Del Toro in-order to install a new cutlass bearing and Generator.
I am planning to have the generator shipped from the USA to Shelter Bay
in the next 1-2 months. Would you have any comments regarding the work
quality and level of responsibility at this marina??


Re: Retiring Soon, Looking for a Pre-Owned Amel

Claus <cvdhwoe@...>
 

Hi Susan,

If you are still looking for your Super Maramu you may have a look at sv-jonathan dot de. It is all in English.

Good luck

Claus

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@...> wrote:

Fantastic! Thanks, Bill.

Susan

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "svbebe" <yahoogroups@> wrote:

There is an Amel Super Maramu in NC. The owner has well cared for her.

He was part of this group, but I have not seen him post anything in some time. You can contact the owner at agav8ter"at"yahoo.com

I found his Amel at http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1999/Amel-Millennium-2000-Super-Maramu-2078128/Wilmington/NC/United-States

Also, it goes without saying that the absolute expert in the US on Amels is Joel Potter...you are talking to the right person.


Hope this helps.

Best,


Bill
s/v BeBe, SM2, #387
currently Malaysia

--- In amelyachtowners@..., "timandsusanallen" <timandsusanallen@> wrote:

WOW! We are about to create a new reality! Retiring and sailing aboard a beautiful sailboat. An Amel is an obvious choice. If you know of anyone looking to sell their Amel, please let us know. Also, any advice you have for first time buyers would be appreciated.


Re: [Amel] Re: Main outhaul gearbox

richard03801@...
 

For whatever it is worth we replaced our gen set with a complete unit from Beta Marine great service phone 1 252 249 2473 they are in North Carolina.
Good luck.
Richard SM209
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Jim Dernehl" <jim.dernehl@...>
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 08:42:39
To: <amelyachtowners@...>
Subject: RE: [Amel] Re: Main outhaul gearbox

Bill,

I am very close to bringing my boat to Shelter Bay Marina from
Boca's Del Toro in-order to install a new cutlass bearing and Generator.
I am planning to have the generator shipped from the USA to Shelter Bay
in the next 1-2 months. Would you have any comments regarding the work
quality and level of responsibility at this marina??

Best Jim Dernehl
PAO-SAN #88



________________________________

From: amelyachtowners@...
[mailto:amelyachtowners@...] On Behalf Of Judy and Bill
aboard SV BeBe
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:18 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel] Re: Main outhaul gearbox




Danny,

Carlos is the owner of Shelter Bay Marina, Lina is the office manager
and Bruce is the yard manager. Take a photo of where you placed the
grease nipples and post it when you get a chance.

Best,

Bill
s/v BeBe, #387

--- In amelyachtowners@...
<mailto:amelyachtowners%40yahoogroups.com> , Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
<simms@...> wrote:

The people you mention Bill, are they on the staff here?

Danny and Yvonne
www.getjealous.com/danneve