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Re: Ultra Anchor

Davi Rozgonyi
 

I'd be careful, depends on your roller. A good friend of ours with a sm 2000 (Victor, Alendoy) got one and had to grind out some inox to allow the fatter "puffier" ultra hollow shank to fit. Not a big mod, but defo not always a perfect fit out of the box.


Re: Swivel head

Mike Longcor (SV Trilogy)
 

Hi Greg,

I will measure the SM mainsail top swivel for you as soon as I get back to Heinz's Quetzal in early January. Are there any other critical dimensions you need measured besides ID and OD? I can provide photos and whatever else you may need. Hopefully this becomes a workable solution for you and other Sharki owners.

Cheers,
Mike Longcor
SV Trilogy SM23
NZ


On Thu, Dec 23, 2021, 12:18 PM Gregory Shea <gmshea@...> wrote:
Heinz, 
I have spent almost as much on parts to repair my Sharki swivel as Amel wants for a complete SM swivel. 
There are two more Sharkis that are following my progress and if a SM swivel will fit, they may be better off to buy a complete SM swivel from Amel. Until your posting I was not aware that Amel had replacement swivels for any models. It would be amazing if the SM swivel could be used on a Sharki or Maramu.
Thanks for your help with this.


Greg Shea 
Sharki 133, Cap des iles
Kilada

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 4:15 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 
There is the old one and the new one on Bord. My Problem was that amel did not have spare parts. They only had the compled swivel. 
Cheers Heinz 

Am 22.12.2021 21:48 schrieb Gregory Shea <gmshea@...>:
Heinz, 
If Mike can measure the swivel in January, that will be fine. Will it be the new swivel you bought from Amel?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 12:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 
Hallo my Problem is that my Quetzal is in New Zealand and I am in Berlin.  And the Kiwis will not let me in. But there is an other Amel owner.  Mike Lonkor and he will do a Job on the Quetzal in Januar. Maybee he can give you the anther if he is on my Quetzal.  Cheers Heinz 

Am 22.12.2021 15:37 schrieb Gregory Shea <gmshea@...>:
Heinz, 
My foil is 35 mm also, so a SM furler may fit a Sharki. Is it possible for you to measure the inside and outside diameters of your swivel?
Do you still have your old one? 

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of heinz@... <heinz@...>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 2:48 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 

On my sm 2000, 292 
The aluminum poles for the furling are :
Mizzenmast 35mm
Main mast 35mm
Genoa 51,5mm diameter

Cheers
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 20.12.2021 um 00:38 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:


Normally the swivel is specified in terms of the foil diameter. The main foil diameter of a SM is 38mm.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 4:35 PM Gregory Shea <gmshea@...> wrote:
Heinz, 
That is a swivel for your SM but maybe it would work on a Sharki or Maramu? The main sail Sharki swivel is 10 cm diameter, what diameter is the one in your photo?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles 
Kilada


On Dec 18, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...> wrote:

 YOU WILL GET IT FROM AMEL. 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 18.12.2021 um 20:28 schrieb Ken Smith <ken363184@...>:

 On M202 the swivel was for a 53mm foil and frozen. Amel did not have a replacement swivel.

After a couple of weeks at the machine shop it was returned functional.

Additional detail with pics available if needed.

Regards, Ken
Bon Edda M202


On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Dirk Hazenoot Maramu Huli 171 via groups.io <dekoer=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel friends,

Inside the furling system on our Amel Maramu 1985 hull 171 the inner ring that leads swivel around the furling has broken off.  
Does anyone know if I can buy parts for the swivel separately from Amel or do I have to go to a machine factory.

Dirk Hull 171 


--
Hello 
Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 
If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 
I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 
But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 
Does anyone know this problem. 
Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 
Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?
I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292



Re: Ultra Anchor

Alan Leslie
 

So a 45kg Ultra fits the bow fitting on an SM without problems / modification?
Thanks for a picture if possible.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Bowthruster - damaged hex-nut

David Vogel
 

Yes, agree! It is when the rust gets a hold – perhaps due to the leaking compression and lip seals – that the hex-bolts and motor-spline interfaces become a problem. If ever there was ever a case of “a stitch in time, saves nine”, then this is one of them. I was keeping an eye on things and thought that, in the absence of any leakage into the bow-thruster compartment, that everything was all OK. And it was, until it wasn’t …

BTW, the set of multi-spline extractors arrived just after we splashed back, and now we’ve left Perigee (for the first time in 5 years) for a Christmas ashore. Upon our return in the New Year, we’ll try again to budge that recalcitrant hex-head bolt with the new tools …

In the interim, expressing thanks for all the help and assistance received from our cohort of AMELians over the past 12 months, and wishing you all the very best for this Festive Season, and beyond.

David & Lenny
SM#396, Perigee
Whangarei, NZ


From: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...>
Reply-To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, 22 December 2021 at 2:01 pm
To: <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bowthruster - damaged hex-nut [count on drilling out that bolt and re-tapping the hole + TORX]

David,

There is nothing bad about changing to TORX head bolts for this, but the ability to exert torque on the head really is not the issue.  If the bolts are kept well greased (or otherwise treated) and exercised regularly (every year or two) there is never any reason that they should be more than barely tight.  When well maintained, they will always come out without a struggle.  It’s only when rust and corrosion take over that they get hopelessly difficult!

All of the Amel thrusters have an excellent system for keeping these bolts in place doing their job even if they are only finger tight.  The exact way this was accomplished varied, depending on the build date. 

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


Re: Swivel head

Gregory Shea
 

Heinz, 
I have spent almost as much on parts to repair my Sharki swivel as Amel wants for a complete SM swivel. 
There are two more Sharkis that are following my progress and if a SM swivel will fit, they may be better off to buy a complete SM swivel from Amel. Until your posting I was not aware that Amel had replacement swivels for any models. It would be amazing if the SM swivel could be used on a Sharki or Maramu.
Thanks for your help with this.


Greg Shea 
Sharki 133, Cap des iles
Kilada


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 4:15 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 
There is the old one and the new one on Bord. My Problem was that amel did not have spare parts. They only had the compled swivel. 
Cheers Heinz 

Am 22.12.2021 21:48 schrieb Gregory Shea <gmshea@...>:
Heinz, 
If Mike can measure the swivel in January, that will be fine. Will it be the new swivel you bought from Amel?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 12:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 
Hallo my Problem is that my Quetzal is in New Zealand and I am in Berlin.  And the Kiwis will not let me in. But there is an other Amel owner.  Mike Lonkor and he will do a Job on the Quetzal in Januar. Maybee he can give you the anther if he is on my Quetzal.  Cheers Heinz 

Am 22.12.2021 15:37 schrieb Gregory Shea <gmshea@...>:
Heinz, 
My foil is 35 mm also, so a SM furler may fit a Sharki. Is it possible for you to measure the inside and outside diameters of your swivel?
Do you still have your old one? 

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of heinz@... <heinz@...>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 2:48 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 

On my sm 2000, 292 
The aluminum poles for the furling are :
Mizzenmast 35mm
Main mast 35mm
Genoa 51,5mm diameter

Cheers
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 20.12.2021 um 00:38 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:


Normally the swivel is specified in terms of the foil diameter. The main foil diameter of a SM is 38mm.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 4:35 PM Gregory Shea <gmshea@...> wrote:
Heinz, 
That is a swivel for your SM but maybe it would work on a Sharki or Maramu? The main sail Sharki swivel is 10 cm diameter, what diameter is the one in your photo?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles 
Kilada


On Dec 18, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...> wrote:

 YOU WILL GET IT FROM AMEL. 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 18.12.2021 um 20:28 schrieb Ken Smith <ken363184@...>:

 On M202 the swivel was for a 53mm foil and frozen. Amel did not have a replacement swivel.

After a couple of weeks at the machine shop it was returned functional.

Additional detail with pics available if needed.

Regards, Ken
Bon Edda M202


On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Dirk Hazenoot Maramu Huli 171 via groups.io <dekoer=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel friends,

Inside the furling system on our Amel Maramu 1985 hull 171 the inner ring that leads swivel around the furling has broken off.  
Does anyone know if I can buy parts for the swivel separately from Amel or do I have to go to a machine factory.

Dirk Hull 171 


--
Hello 
Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 
If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 
I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 
But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 
Does anyone know this problem. 
Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 
Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?
I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292



Re: Swivel head

Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...>
 

There is the old one and the new one on Bord. My Problem was that amel did not have spare parts. They only had the compled swivel. 
Cheers Heinz 

Am 22.12.2021 21:48 schrieb Gregory Shea <gmshea@...>:

Heinz, 
If Mike can measure the swivel in January, that will be fine. Will it be the new swivel you bought from Amel?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 12:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 
Hallo my Problem is that my Quetzal is in New Zealand and I am in Berlin.  And the Kiwis will not let me in. But there is an other Amel owner.  Mike Lonkor and he will do a Job on the Quetzal in Januar. Maybee he can give you the anther if he is on my Quetzal.  Cheers Heinz 

Am 22.12.2021 15:37 schrieb Gregory Shea <gmshea@...>:
Heinz, 
My foil is 35 mm also, so a SM furler may fit a Sharki. Is it possible for you to measure the inside and outside diameters of your swivel?
Do you still have your old one? 

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of heinz@... <heinz@...>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 2:48 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 

On my sm 2000, 292 
The aluminum poles for the furling are :
Mizzenmast 35mm
Main mast 35mm
Genoa 51,5mm diameter

Cheers
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 20.12.2021 um 00:38 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:


Normally the swivel is specified in terms of the foil diameter. The main foil diameter of a SM is 38mm.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 4:35 PM Gregory Shea <gmshea@...> wrote:
Heinz, 
That is a swivel for your SM but maybe it would work on a Sharki or Maramu? The main sail Sharki swivel is 10 cm diameter, what diameter is the one in your photo?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles 
Kilada


On Dec 18, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...> wrote:

 YOU WILL GET IT FROM AMEL. 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 18.12.2021 um 20:28 schrieb Ken Smith <ken363184@...>:

 On M202 the swivel was for a 53mm foil and frozen. Amel did not have a replacement swivel.

After a couple of weeks at the machine shop it was returned functional.

Additional detail with pics available if needed.

Regards, Ken
Bon Edda M202


On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Dirk Hazenoot Maramu Huli 171 via groups.io <dekoer=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel friends,

Inside the furling system on our Amel Maramu 1985 hull 171 the inner ring that leads swivel around the furling has broken off.  
Does anyone know if I can buy parts for the swivel separately from Amel or do I have to go to a machine factory.

Dirk Hull 171 


--
Hello 
Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 
If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 
I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 
But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 
Does anyone know this problem. 
Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 
Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?
I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292



Re: Swivel head

Gregory Shea
 

Heinz, 
If Mike can measure the swivel in January, that will be fine. Will it be the new swivel you bought from Amel?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2021 12:00 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 
Hallo my Problem is that my Quetzal is in New Zealand and I am in Berlin.  And the Kiwis will not let me in. But there is an other Amel owner.  Mike Lonkor and he will do a Job on the Quetzal in Januar. Maybee he can give you the anther if he is on my Quetzal.  Cheers Heinz 

Am 22.12.2021 15:37 schrieb Gregory Shea <gmshea@...>:
Heinz, 
My foil is 35 mm also, so a SM furler may fit a Sharki. Is it possible for you to measure the inside and outside diameters of your swivel?
Do you still have your old one? 

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of heinz@... <heinz@...>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 2:48 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 

On my sm 2000, 292 
The aluminum poles for the furling are :
Mizzenmast 35mm
Main mast 35mm
Genoa 51,5mm diameter

Cheers
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 20.12.2021 um 00:38 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:


Normally the swivel is specified in terms of the foil diameter. The main foil diameter of a SM is 38mm.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 4:35 PM Gregory Shea <gmshea@...> wrote:
Heinz, 
That is a swivel for your SM but maybe it would work on a Sharki or Maramu? The main sail Sharki swivel is 10 cm diameter, what diameter is the one in your photo?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles 
Kilada


On Dec 18, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...> wrote:

 YOU WILL GET IT FROM AMEL. 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 18.12.2021 um 20:28 schrieb Ken Smith <ken363184@...>:

 On M202 the swivel was for a 53mm foil and frozen. Amel did not have a replacement swivel.

After a couple of weeks at the machine shop it was returned functional.

Additional detail with pics available if needed.

Regards, Ken
Bon Edda M202


On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Dirk Hazenoot Maramu Huli 171 via groups.io <dekoer=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel friends,

Inside the furling system on our Amel Maramu 1985 hull 171 the inner ring that leads swivel around the furling has broken off.  
Does anyone know if I can buy parts for the swivel separately from Amel or do I have to go to a machine factory.

Dirk Hull 171 


--
Hello 
Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 
If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 
I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 
But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 
Does anyone know this problem. 
Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 
Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?
I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: Swivel head

Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...>
 

Hallo my Problem is that my Quetzal is in New Zealand and I am in Berlin.  And the Kiwis will not let me in. But there is an other Amel owner.  Mike Lonkor and he will do a Job on the Quetzal in Januar. Maybee he can give you the anther if he is on my Quetzal.  Cheers Heinz 

Am 22.12.2021 15:37 schrieb Gregory Shea <gmshea@...>:

Heinz, 
My foil is 35 mm also, so a SM furler may fit a Sharki. Is it possible for you to measure the inside and outside diameters of your swivel?
Do you still have your old one? 

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of heinz@... <heinz@...>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 2:48 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 

On my sm 2000, 292 
The aluminum poles for the furling are :
Mizzenmast 35mm
Main mast 35mm
Genoa 51,5mm diameter

Cheers
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 20.12.2021 um 00:38 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:


Normally the swivel is specified in terms of the foil diameter. The main foil diameter of a SM is 38mm.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 4:35 PM Gregory Shea <gmshea@...> wrote:
Heinz, 
That is a swivel for your SM but maybe it would work on a Sharki or Maramu? The main sail Sharki swivel is 10 cm diameter, what diameter is the one in your photo?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles 
Kilada


On Dec 18, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...> wrote:

 YOU WILL GET IT FROM AMEL. 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 18.12.2021 um 20:28 schrieb Ken Smith <ken363184@...>:

 On M202 the swivel was for a 53mm foil and frozen. Amel did not have a replacement swivel.

After a couple of weeks at the machine shop it was returned functional.

Additional detail with pics available if needed.

Regards, Ken
Bon Edda M202


On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Dirk Hazenoot Maramu Huli 171 via groups.io <dekoer=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel friends,

Inside the furling system on our Amel Maramu 1985 hull 171 the inner ring that leads swivel around the furling has broken off.  
Does anyone know if I can buy parts for the swivel separately from Amel or do I have to go to a machine factory.

Dirk Hull 171 


--
Hello 
Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 
If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 
I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 
But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 
Does anyone know this problem. 
Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 
Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?
I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: Swivel head

Gregory Shea
 

Heinz, 
My foil is 35 mm also, so a SM furler may fit a Sharki. Is it possible for you to measure the inside and outside diameters of your swivel?
Do you still have your old one? 

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des iles
Kilada

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of heinz@... <heinz@...>
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2021 2:48 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Swivel head
 

On my sm 2000, 292 
The aluminum poles for the furling are :
Mizzenmast 35mm
Main mast 35mm
Genoa 51,5mm diameter

Cheers
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 20.12.2021 um 00:38 schrieb CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>:


Normally the swivel is specified in terms of the foil diameter. The main foil diameter of a SM is 38mm.

Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 4:35 PM Gregory Shea <gmshea@...> wrote:
Heinz, 
That is a swivel for your SM but maybe it would work on a Sharki or Maramu? The main sail Sharki swivel is 10 cm diameter, what diameter is the one in your photo?

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles 
Kilada


On Dec 18, 2021, at 3:27 PM, Heinz Stutenbaeumer <heinz@...> wrote:

 YOU WILL GET IT FROM AMEL. 

Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 18.12.2021 um 20:28 schrieb Ken Smith <ken363184@...>:

 On M202 the swivel was for a 53mm foil and frozen. Amel did not have a replacement swivel.

After a couple of weeks at the machine shop it was returned functional.

Additional detail with pics available if needed.

Regards, Ken
Bon Edda M202


On Dec 18, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Dirk Hazenoot Maramu Huli 171 via groups.io <dekoer=me.com@groups.io> wrote:

Dear Amel friends,

Inside the furling system on our Amel Maramu 1985 hull 171 the inner ring that leads swivel around the furling has broken off.  
Does anyone know if I can buy parts for the swivel separately from Amel or do I have to go to a machine factory.

Dirk Hull 171 


--
Hello 
Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 
If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 
I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 
But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 
Does anyone know this problem. 
Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 
Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?
I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: Forever Young / Standing rigging

Brent Cameron
 

Hey Nicolas, Delos did a series of three videos on YouTube about them re-rigging Delos in Thailand. (Go to YouTube and search "Delos rigging”).  They show the difficulty with the front turnbuckle, how the cables are swaged and how they replaced the wires with the mast still standing.  Not for the faint of heart but certainly possible with some help.  It would be a lot easier with a prebuilt kit like ACMO ships with Bill’s discount as well.  

Brent
On Dec 22, 2021, 6:31 AM -0500, Nicolas Klene via groups.io <laixoi@...>, wrote:


Hello Bill 
Again a very interesting post for me. In the new year I will have to change my rigging and will follow your advise and go ACMO with the new turnbuckles.
I would be interested in the DIY method , to have a look If I can do it !
Best wishes for the holidays 
Nicolas 
SV DarNico 
Amel 53 # 471 

Le 10 déc. 2021 à 19:17, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> a écrit :


Steve,

You can order the kit from ACMO which includes everything and it is exactly cut. Because of the recent agreement signed by France and the US, you will need an EIN number. Shipping may be an issue because of the lack of commercial flights due to COVID.

The ACMO complete rigging kit with optional stainless steel turnbuckles with bronze inserts is about 10,000 euro with a 10% discount included...be sure to ask for it. Freight will probably be about 2,500 euro. Some owners have replaced the rigging themselves, 1 piece at a time, taking 4-6 days. Others have hired a rigger to help them. I have the instructions if you need them. Let me know.

If you go to Caraibe in Martinique, the total installed price is around 15,000 euro and they will use ACMO fittings and turnbuckles with the same German wire that ACMO uses.
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On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 10:59 AM Steve Harmon via groups.io <caliber33=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
I'm overdue for new standing rigging, can anybody give me a ballpark price. Steve / Forever Young / 53 Amel / 272


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Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille

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Brent Cameron

Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator

Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada


Re: Forever Young / Standing rigging

Nicolas Klene
 


Hello Bill 
Again a very interesting post for me. In the new year I will have to change my rigging and will follow your advise and go ACMO with the new turnbuckles.
I would be interested in the DIY method , to have a look If I can do it !
Best wishes for the holidays 
Nicolas 
SV DarNico 
Amel 53 # 471 

Le 10 déc. 2021 à 19:17, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> a écrit :


Steve,

You can order the kit from ACMO which includes everything and it is exactly cut. Because of the recent agreement signed by France and the US, you will need an EIN number. Shipping may be an issue because of the lack of commercial flights due to COVID.

The ACMO complete rigging kit with optional stainless steel turnbuckles with bronze inserts is about 10,000 euro with a 10% discount included...be sure to ask for it. Freight will probably be about 2,500 euro. Some owners have replaced the rigging themselves, 1 piece at a time, taking 4-6 days. Others have hired a rigger to help them. I have the instructions if you need them. Let me know.

If you go to Caraibe in Martinique, the total installed price is around 15,000 euro and they will use ACMO fittings and turnbuckles with the same German wire that ACMO uses.
648a9d15-0e25-46ec-8a1f-662fd747eac2.png
Bill


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 10:59 AM Steve Harmon via groups.io <caliber33=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
I'm overdue for new standing rigging, can anybody give me a ballpark price. Steve / Forever Young / 53 Amel / 272


--
Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Bowthruster - damaged hex-nut [count on drilling out that bolt and re-tapping the hole + TORX]

Nicolas Klene
 


Thank you Bill
Merry Christmas 
Nicolas 
SM471,DarNico
Marseille

Le 21 déc. 2021 à 19:55, Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> a écrit :

Nicolas,

The lip seal and “donuts” are the seals that keep the ocean from coming in where the thruster shaft goes down through the hull.  They are critical maintenance items and should be changed every year—two at the most—to avoid unexpected leaks.  These times are not governed by sailing hours since the failure mode is when the foam rubber in the donut seals compresses and hardens.  This reduces its ability to properly maintain a seal.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA

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Nicolas Klene
DarNico
SM2K # 471
In Marseille


Re: Santorin SN 45 'Calao'

Micky Ball
 

Hi Ian , it is in Le Marin , Martinique .


Re: Super Maramu wall lamp shades

Alan Leslie
 

The previous owner of Elyse replaced most of these with a rounded glass, which actually looks very smart.
I have a whole bunch of the original shades in a cupboard in the saloon.
I could send them to someone that wanted them, BUT because of Covid, I am in Australia, Elyse is in New Zealand, and I can't get there anytime soon.
BUT anyone that wants them, keep that in mind. ONE day I will be reunited with my beautiful boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437  


Re: Ultra Anchor

Ulrich Michael Dangelmeyer
 

The best choice ever. We changed our original Bugel on a 45kg Ultra and its incredible how quick and strong it holds, we Are in Greece with lot of Meltemi and gusts. No problems with the bowrollers. Just change the anchor. Highly recommended also the Ultra swivel! 
Ask UltraMarine Europe, Kris Teaotea, for Special offer for AMEL owners, as we got it last year.
Best and Merry X Mas.
Ulrich 
„Soleil Bleu“/ A54#088

Am 22.12.2021 um 09:49 schrieb jlm@...:



I am very happy with meine 45kg Ulra on a SM ...

JLMERTZ

CottonBay



Le 21/12/2021 à 21:43, Richard Dallett a écrit :
Anyone have experience with an Ultra 45 kg anchor on an A54?

Richard Dallett
Mamba
A5467


Re: Ultra Anchor

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

I am very happy with meine 45kg Ulra on a SM ...

JLMERTZ

CottonBay



Le 21/12/2021 à 21:43, Richard Dallett a écrit :

Anyone have experience with an Ultra 45 kg anchor on an A54?

Richard Dallett
Mamba
A5467


Re: Santorin SN 45 'Calao'

Ian Park
 

I don’t know anything about Callao, but we’re based in North Wales and our Santorin is currently out on the hard.
Where is this boat based?

Ian, ‘Ocean Hobo’ SN96


Re: Bowthruster - damaged hex-nut [count on drilling out that bolt and re-tapping the hole + TORX]

Bill Kinney
 

David,

There is nothing bad about changing to TORX head bolts for this, but the ability to exert torque on the head really is not the issue.  If the bolts are kept well greased (or otherwise treated) and exercised regularly (every year or two) there is never any reason that they should be more than barely tight.  When well maintained, they will always come out without a struggle.  It’s only when rust and corrosion take over that they get hopelessly difficult!

All of the Amel thrusters have an excellent system for keeping these bolts in place doing their job even if they are only finger tight.  The exact way this was accomplished varied, depending on the build date. 

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


Re: Bowthruster - damaged hex-nut [count on drilling out that bolt and re-tapping the hole + TORX]

Bill Kinney
 

Nicolas,

The lip seal and “donuts” are the seals that keep the ocean from coming in where the thruster shaft goes down through the hull.  They are critical maintenance items and should be changed every year—two at the most—to avoid unexpected leaks.  These times are not governed by sailing hours since the failure mode is when the foam rubber in the donut seals compresses and hardens.  This reduces its ability to properly maintain a seal.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Fort Lauderdale, FL, USA


Re: Ultra Anchor

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Fitted a 35kg on our SM. CRUISING for the last 7 years and always held. 

Sets very quickly and resets just as well after a wind change

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera SM007 New Zealand


On 22/12/2021, at 9:47 AM, Dimitris Krasopoulos <dkrasopoulos@...> wrote:

Yes no modification


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On Dec 21, 2021, at 10:46 PM, Richard Dallett <dallettrichard@...> wrote:

Did it fit on the roller without modification?