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Re: asymmetrical spinnaker
Eloi Bamberg
I think if the sail is luffing there is a risk that the line get stucked, so i prefere this setup with more guidance.
Eloi
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Windscreen Replacement
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Hi Bill, From whom did you get the material and labor? Fair Winds Eric
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Re: Windscreen Replacement
I bought the Plexiglass brand from a dealer in Turkey. Bill
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 12:59 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Windscreen Replacement
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Hi Bill, From whom did you get the material and labor? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of william reynolds
I tried to replace my forward and side acrylic windows and was quoted $1400.00 US for the material and $600.00 to install them
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Re: asymmetrical spinnaker
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Hi Paolo,
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I had a removable forestay made. It sits about 2 1/2 feet forward of the bow. It is only 3 feet long in total. I has a Harken swivel block on the end and mounts in about a minute . I store it in the port cockpit locker. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io On Behalf Of PAOLO CUNEO Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2021 8:44 AM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] asymmetrical spinnaker Hi all, Hope to be on board tomorrow and make some photos. Also , I am trying to trace back all the pictures taken during my discussions with the rigger as this has been a long story, everybody trying to convince me to accept the standard solution of a bowsprit, fixed or removable, which I didn’t want. Back soon with a post Paolo Cuneo SM 454 Whisper Inviato da iPad -- Paolo Cuneo SM 454 Whisper
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Re: Windscreen Replacement
While $200 is definitely worth it and cutting and drilling acrylic sheet, perspex or plexiglas is a bit nerve wracking, it is quite easy to do yourself without special tools. The secret is to go slow and use fine toothed blades with tape on the acrylic where you will run your saw so that you don’t scratch it.
I had a $1200 4’x6’ plexiglass bubble canopy made for my homebuilt airplane and it was shipped to me as a WAY oversized bubble that I had to cut at least 6” off of each edge and drill about 100 holes in it so that I could rivet it to the frame. I was completely panicked about cutting it myself as I had visions of it cracking or me screwing up and slipping and me cutting it on a wrong angle. It took me about 2 weeks to work up the courage to cut it. In the end, I just put down some wide masking tape (painter’s tape) to rest the jigsaw on (and drew my cutting line on it), set up a guide fence (a small wooden baton that I clamped at each end the right distance away from my line), and let her rip with my hand electric jigsaw with a fine toothed metal blade on it. I went nice and slow and kept the jigsaw up tight against my ‘fence”. The lines that came out looked like they were cut with a laser and a touch of 600 grit sandpaper rounded over the edges to make nice clean edges for the exposed edges. I also had a few parts with radical compound curves that I had to cut with a grinder disk and those were easy as well although getting a perfectly straight line was a bit more challenging as I had to use the grinder free hand so I went a bit wide of the line and then “sanded” back to the line with wet/dry sandpaper (started with 220 grit and went to 600 as I got to the line). Same for drilling…. Don’t run your drill at max speed, start with a small bit dead centre of where you want it and then go to your proper size next. Don’t try to force the bit through… just let the bit drag the drill through slowly. I put a backing block behind the plexiglass that I drilled into but later I found this wasn’t necessary as long as I went slowly. I went really slowly at first but by about the 20th hole and my second cut, I had the confidence to work much faster and I had the whole canopy trimmed and fitted in about 3 hours. It came out perfectly and looked like it was moulded exactly the size and with the holes perfectly placed (much easier to do that with the holes in the frame already drilled. I wouldn’t think twice now about getting sheets of acrylic and cutting, drilling and countersinking them myself. You can practice on a few scraps until you perfect your technique but if you can cut a sheet of plywood, you can cut this stuff. Brent
On Mar 27, 2021, 12:10 PM -0400, william reynolds <sail23692@...>, wrote:
I tried to replace my forward and side acrylic windows and was quoted $1400.00 US for the material and $600.00 to install them --
Brent Cameron Future Amel Owner & Amel Owner Registry Moderator Oro-Medonte, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Windscreen Replacement
Including all material, all labor, and including routing for a gasket and new gasket on the port side windshield, and including painting a 30mm stripe around 3 of the 4, will be around 1000 euro, including installation. Of course, prices will vary from place-to-place. The difference in price will mostly be the difference in profit. Bill
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 11:10 AM william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote: I tried to replace my forward and side acrylic windows and was quoted $1400.00 US for the material and $600.00 to install them
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Re: asymmetrical spinnaker
Is there a reseason why you do not simply use the center roller, taking the tack line under the roller, and forgetting about the line fairlead? Bill
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 10:35 AM Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote: Hallo,
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Windscreen Replacement
william reynolds
I tried to replace my forward and side acrylic windows and was quoted $1400.00 US for the material and $600.00 to install them
I checked St Thomas and the 10mm acrylic price was $280.00 US and $200.00 US to cut and drill them. I removed the old windows with my Fein Tool scraper blade. They would have installed them for $240.00 US more. Bill Reynolds Cloudstreet SM2K 331
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Re: asymmetrical spinnaker
Eloi Bamberg
Hallo,
Based on the answers of this tread and the Amel official manuel, here the 2 solutions i figured out. I will try both of them when we can sail again. solution 1 (roll for second anchor)   solution 2 (official Amel version)   regards, Eloi SM2K 426 Red Lion
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Re: Steering wheel removal
Patrick McAneny
Slavko,
I removed mine probably ten years ago to send it out to have it coated by Color Wheels ,a vinyl coating that has held up very well and still looks new. As to getting the wheel off, it took a lot of force to get it off. If I remember correctly I put stainless hose clamps around the spokes and used a prop puller to apply the force necessary to get it off. It took much more force and time than I expected to get it to pop off. I think I would now use deneema line instead of clamps ,if I removed it again .
Hope this helps,
Pat
SM Shenanigans #123
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From: Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Fri, Mar 26, 2021 3:07 pm Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Steering wheel removal Hello,
is there easy way to remove the steering wheel on SM. I have removed the part with Henry Amel signature, and removed the screw. From here I do not know as the wheel is firm in place. I do not what break anything so advice will be helpful. Wheel will be send to company that will put new leather cover. -- Slavko SM 2000 #279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz
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Re: asymmetrical spinnaker
PAOLO CUNEO
Hi all,
Hope to be on board tomorrow and make some photos. Also , I am trying to trace back all the pictures taken during my discussions with the rigger as this has been a long story, everybody trying to convince me to accept the standard solution of a bowsprit, fixed or removable, which I didn’t want. Back soon with a post Paolo Cuneo SM 454 Whisper Inviato da iPad -- Paolo Cuneo SM 454 Whisper
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Re: Thru hull dimensions
Kaplan,Andre
Thank you, Eric
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On Mar 24, 2021, at 4:14 PM, eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: asymmetrical spinnaker
Alex! last year we bought a "Code 3" on a facnor furler all supplied by Incidence sails. It was no issue at all to use it, I attached a halyard at the top of the mast and just hoist it. We got it at the end of last season so have only used it in light wind. We can sail from around 75 degree apparent wind to 180 degree in light wind. it is designed for maximum 17 kn of wind. I think we will have great use of it the size is 115 sqm.
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Re: unknown items
Mike Johnson
Hi Eloi, The bottom one links the mizzen lifting line with the metal ‘D’ fitting at the end of the boarding ladder to support it above the level of the dock. Very best wishes Mike & Peta Solitude SM 461
On 26 Mar 2021, at 21:29, Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:
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This may help you, especially if you have an AutoProp and AutoProp puller. 
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 2:15 PM Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote: Hello,
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Re: unknown items
Look like things used to lift the dingy out of the water at night using a halyard
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Cheers Courtney svTrippin
On Mar 26, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:
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unknown items
Eloi Bamberg
Hallo, does anybody know what these items are for ? (not the tape measure :-) )
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Re: asymmetrical spinnaker
Hi All,
Sorry, I don't have any pictures. I haven't been on Elyse since March 2020. We don't have a furler for our asymetrical spinnaker, we have a hoop and sock for dousing it. The whole assembly like a sausage is hauled up with the halyard. Then there is a continuous line that is used to hoist the hoop and sock to the top of the halyard and the sail comes out. Dropping it is the reverse. Run off with the main out so the sail collapses in front of it, pull down the hoop and sock, lower the sausage with the halyard. When we had a code zero type sail it was on a furler on it's own stay. The top end had a swivel to attach to the spinnaker halyard, which was hoisted with the halyard and then unfurled - it was simple arrangement. Cheers Alan Elyse Sm437
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Re: Primary headsail sheet winches
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Thanks Ken, sharing is knowing. Danny
On 26 March 2021 at 22:34 Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> wrote:
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