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Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor

Arno Luijten
 

Actually the sensors are Hall-effect sensors.
Those plastic covers on your passerelle are non-existent on ours. The big problem is that the water gets to the top of the rotational actuator where the “seam” is between the stationary part and the rotating part. In our case after replacement of the actuator I put an stainless disc on top of the actuator and put a huge load of lanolite grease between the actuator and disc. I also drilled some drain holes in the frame that screws on top of the actuator to avoid standing water and to make sure it drains away from the actuator.

Regards,

Arno
SV Luna,
A54-121


AMFA bilge pump spare part

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

I have the original AMFA bilge pump.  For the second time in 21 years ( I make no complaint--would that everything lasted that long ) the plastic cogged wheel that connects the motor to the pump has broken.

 I have emailed Reya, the French group that now owns A. M.F.A.  in the hope that they still carry spares.  My recollection from last time is that they sell you the motor attached to the wheel.

 Not cheap, but a sound of great comfort when it works.

 Has anyone recently had to get this spare part ?

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Leros, Greece ( sitting out an unseasonal 7 day meltemi )


Re: Height of the SM Mizzen Mast

Richie Whyte
 

Thanks for that Bill, Much appreciated. I did some conversions to metric and reproduced in text below so as it is searchable by future questioners.

Cheers

Richie

Richie Whyte, Why Knot, SM2K#261, Kos Marina, Kos, Greece 

Amel SM Critical Dimensions

 

Amel SM with boat level and standing on the keel.

4.55m

14'11”

Top of the dodger

4.39m

14'5"

Top of the bow pulpit

3.91m

12'10

Top of hard dodger base with dodger removed

3.78m

12'5"

Top of bow roller with life rails removed

.94m

3'1”

Widest part of the keel

17.5m

57'6”

Mainmast length from the deck without antenna

13.21m

43'4"

Mizzen mast length from the deck to top

4.6m

15'1"

Vessel beam maximum

.6m

1’11”

Top of toe rail to top of Life-rail

 

 

Amel SM in the water

 

Mainmast height with full fuel and water and

2240LBS. of gear aboard as follows:

19.3m

63'4”

height above water to the top of mast

19.53m

64'1"

height to the top of the masthead light

19.6m

64'4”

height to the top of the B&G 213 MHU

20.6m

67’6”

height to the top VHF ant. (Air Draft)

21m

68’11”

Amel 54 Air Draft - from Amel 54 Users Manual


Re: Companion way hatch door removal

Bill Kinney
 

Bernd

There are several ways to remove the companion way slide. I am not familiar with the details of the way an SN is assembled, all my comments apply to the SM.

  • You can remove the screws and lift the dodger enough to lift the slide out of its track. Since you only have to tip it forward enough to get the slide out of its track, this is not quite as terrible a job as it might first sound like.
  • You can cut the track apart on the starboard side, remove the slide, and then reassemble. This is how I did mine, described here. I liked this method because it is essentially invisible, and allows easy removal in the future.
  • You can cut the slide and the glue it back together, or install hinges on the cut.
Each method has it proponents, and each has it advantages and disadvantages.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie 
Annapolis, MD


Companion way hatch door removal

Bernd Spanner
 

Companion Way Hatch door removal experience.
 
Has anyone removed the door on an SN or SM?
 
Any advice?
--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor

Wolfgang Weber
 

Hello Arno ,
these sensors are induction nearing sensors from  Pepperl and Fuchs. They  have all datasheets on the Webside available in many languages. My up/down sensor was labeled  NBB4-12GM30-E2 . Switching distance is 4 mm , so I adjusted them very near to the sensing metal which gives the right position to turn the gangway in to resting position.
As you mentioned the big problem for the gangway is  saltwater between the stainless passarelle and the rotating actuator. You see on my picture that I cut the white nylon-cover and pressed grease in each screw-hole . For this  procedure all screws had to be loosened for 3 mm and fill one screw-hole with WD40 and later grease, fasten the screw and by the time  grease will come out at the borders. I hope this will  keep me away from buying a new rotating  part for 6k.
The  opacmare company was no help ! Now answer a lot of contacts by email.
The man who  works for  opacmare service in La Rochelle told me that they often change the hydraulic oil due to  rusty ironparts from the rotary actuator and that these parts may  block the mechanical switches.
 Wolfgang   SY ELISE Amel 54#162 La Rochelle


Re: Fresh Water Leak At Aft Head

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

BTDT. 

Also A leaking porthole in the aft head can give you the same symptoms. Don’t ask how I know


Jean-Pierre Germain


On 2/10/2021, at 10:50 AM, Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Hi Kent,
I think the answer is here....
" There has never been water found in the bilge until a boisterous sail last night, tacking into a 20kt wind. Found at least  10-12 liters there.  It's only barely salty to taste."
I had exactly this scenario on the way to Tahiti some years ago.
Water sloshing around in the space under the aft head.
I tried and almost convinced myself that it wasn't salty, but it was......
Where did it come from? The seals on the rudder shaft.
We were on starboard tack in big seas for quite a while and the water pressure from the pounding forced water up past those compressed rings. It then worked its way along the port side under the aft bunk and went to the lowest point under the aft head.
Tightened up the nut and that stopped it temporarily.
Permanent fix was to replace the shaft sealing.
All the best
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?

Dean Gillies
 

Hi Matt,
Out of interest, may I ask how you determined the initial SOC when you received the batteries?  Did you estimate SOC from a voltage measurement, or does the 'small Victron charger' you mention provide data to indicate how much capacity needed to be added to attain a full charge, or maybe the Victron BMS provides that data? (ie you added 52% by charging therefore they must have been at 48% when you started)
Best regards
Dean
SV Stella
Amel 54-154



Re: Fresh Water Leak At Aft Head

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Kent,
I think the answer is here....
" There has never been water found in the bilge until a boisterous sail last night, tacking into a 20kt wind. Found at least  10-12 liters there.  It's only barely salty to taste."
I had exactly this scenario on the way to Tahiti some years ago.
Water sloshing around in the space under the aft head.
I tried and almost convinced myself that it wasn't salty, but it was......
Where did it come from? The seals on the rudder shaft.
We were on starboard tack in big seas for quite a while and the water pressure from the pounding forced water up past those compressed rings. It then worked its way along the port side under the aft bunk and went to the lowest point under the aft head.
Tightened up the nut and that stopped it temporarily.
Permanent fix was to replace the shaft sealing.
All the best
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Height of the SM Mizzen Mast

 

43’4” - Mizzen mast length from the deck to top of the mast.

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On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 9:30 AM Richie Whyte <richiewhyte@...> wrote:
Gentlefolk,
A quick question for anyone who has done this recently. I am ordering a new AIS and need to tell the supplier how much VHF cable I’ll need. I’m presuming the black box AIS will be mounted in the Nav Station area. I can measure the circuitous route to the bottom of the mast (in the aft head panel beside the mirror) but I can’t get a figure for the height of the mizzen mast of the Super Maramu anywhere. Anyone got any ideas?

Richie

Richie Whyte
‘Why Knot’, SM2K#261
Kos Marina,
Kos Greece


Hi Gary--- Companionway Door Seal - New Photos Album & Photos

eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
 

Would you please send me the photos of this modification to:  kimberlite@....

Fair Winds

ERIC

Kimberlite@...

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2019 8:40 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Companionway Door Seal - New Photos Album & Photos

 

Hi Gary,

Nice Job,

Where do I get the aircraft silicone rubber in the USA?

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gary Silver via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 12:18 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Companionway Door Seal - New Photos Album & Photos

 

Hi all:  
I just posted a series of photographs showing the replacement of my companionway door seal.  I did this about 4 years ago.  I have owned the boat since new and the original Amel seal began failing at about year 10 and by year 13 demanded attention.  I was un-successful in obtaining original Amel material (no longer available).  I couldn't find anything in the automotive industry that I found suitable, so I fabricated my own.  I am an aircraft mechanic and almost daily utilize red silicone sheet rubber for engine baffling.  It is very durable and doesn't deform with fuel, oil, heat etc.  It has held up well for the last 4 years.  I fabricated from teak an obtuse triangular shim to hold the silicone seal material in place against the door in a squeegee like fashion.  The photos are in the album entitled:
"Modifications - Companionway Door Seal".  I'll try and post a dimensional drawing of the shim and a source for the seal material soon. 

Hope this may of be of use to some. 

Gary S Silver
s/v Liahona
Amel SM 2000  #335
Puerto Del Rey Marina,  Puerto Rico


Height of the SM Mizzen Mast

Richie Whyte
 

Gentlefolk,
A quick question for anyone who has done this recently. I am ordering a new AIS and need to tell the supplier how much VHF cable I’ll need. I’m presuming the black box AIS will be mounted in the Nav Station area. I can measure the circuitous route to the bottom of the mast (in the aft head panel beside the mirror) but I can’t get a figure for the height of the mizzen mast of the Super Maramu anywhere. Anyone got any ideas?

Richie

Richie Whyte
‘Why Knot’, SM2K#261
Kos Marina,
Kos Greece


Re: SM Skeg

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Hi Stefan

 

Many thanks that is very helpful. Sounds like greasing that might actually be harmful.

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM #472

Canet-en-roussillon

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Stefan Jeukendrup via groups.io
Sent: 01 October 2021 12:42
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM Skeg

 

Hi Andrew,

I had to remove the rudder in the past weeks for a succesfull repair.
From what I saw the nylon bushing is just water lubricated. Those 2 screws  on the side hold the bushing in place.
Olaf Bauer made a description of the rudder removal which may help you too: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/files/AMEL%20SM2K%20Rudder%20Removal/Rudder%20removal%20at%20a%20AMEL%20Super%20Maramu%202000.pdf

Best regards,

Stefan Jeukendrup
sv malaka Queen
SM2k #348 @ Northern Ireland


Re: SM Skeg

Stefan Jeukendrup
 

Hi Andrew,

I had to remove the rudder in the past weeks for a succesfull repair.
From what I saw the nylon bushing is just water lubricated. Those 2 screws  on the side hold the bushing in place.
Olaf Bauer made a description of the rudder removal which may help you too: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/files/AMEL%20SM2K%20Rudder%20Removal/Rudder%20removal%20at%20a%20AMEL%20Super%20Maramu%202000.pdf

Best regards,

Stefan Jeukendrup
sv malaka Queen
SM2k #348 @ Northern Ireland


Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Paul,

Fair question. 

Actually I have been considering to enhance the system using an Arduino controller or similar. But builing something like that and also making it reliable takes time and I had other priorities. 

The passerelle has several flaws, not only the electronics. 

I don’t think the sensors themselves are bad design. The connectors and wireing is more of a problem. 

The current control system is crude but does the job. If improvements are made it would be in adding sensors and automate the closure/opening sequence a bit more. 

In the end it would add a fairly limited amount of functionality. For me it would be more a challenge to do so then a solution to a problem. So maybe I will take it on at some point but not now. 

The main problem with the thing is the ingress of salt water in the rotational actuator. I had to replace mine at 6k$ cost. Protecting it totally from seawater is not so easy. 


Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Vladan, I did give the dimensions of one seal at 60x45x7. However I did say that was from memory. I will check in the next days and let you know.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 01 October 2021 at 01:56 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:

Bill,

the extra seal number 5 is 45 x 58 x 7 

It’s difficult to check size of the motor seal without taking off motor. For sure shaft coming out of motor is 45 mm so it can be.

Also as I see Danny is mentioning slightly different size of seal so could it be that not all manual furlers installed through production line were same?

Best Regards,
--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


Re: What to do with LiFePO4 batteries when the boat is layed up?

Matt & Michelle
 

For what it is worth....

Michelle and I just received our shipment of Victron 200Ah LiFePO4 batteries.  I measured all six of our batteries as received, and they are at an identical 48.2% SOC.  I purchased the batteries from PKYS (shipped direct from Victron).  Peter Kennedy (great technical guy to work with) ensured I purchased a small Victron battery charger to fully charge each battery individually prior to install.

To Scott's point, Victron is not going to have inventory age and expire in storage as an ongoing money making enterprise, and the SOC matches what all those boring peer reviewed studies say.  Just another data point worth considering.

If anyone is considering doing a LiFePO4 conversion, I would strongly recommend you read Scott's write-up, Bill Kinney's post, and then the peer reviewed papers.  The lithium conversion world is the wild west right now, with multiple companies selling silly "drop-in" full conversion batteries.  You are ultimately changing the power distribution architecture of your boat which has significant life safety risk.  Finding the right experienced technical resources has been challenging for us.  One can easily see why insurance companies are nervous, and I suspect redneck engineered conversions will be a fun new topic of new used boat sales in the near future.   

Matt & Michelle Day
SM#209
SV Talia
Hampton, VA


Re: Opacmare - replacing sensor

Paul Harries
 

Arno
You are such an intelligent guy I wonder as to whether you have considered re engineering this marvel of Italian engineering into a more reliable solution. Would a different position sensor technology work? From what you say the central control unit is fairly simple.

--
Paul Harries
Prospective Amel Buyer


Re: Converting my Amel 54 to lithium batteries: what I did, what I like and what I don't like (after one year of full time live aboard use)

Lior Keydar
 

Ruedi

I forward you the solution that Robin from SV Carré d’As sent me. He had the same problem and me too. It is actually very easy. 

Best,
Lior

"We found the solution:

 

 

find the cable that comes from the pump in the 230V Tableau in the galley and connect it to the side where there is always power - secure it with a 5 amp fuse and you are done!

 

fair winds

 

Robin"


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

Vladan SV PAME
 

Bill,

the extra seal number 5 is 45 x 58 x 7 

It’s difficult to check size of the motor seal without taking off motor. For sure shaft coming out of motor is 45 mm so it can be.

Also as I see Danny is mentioning slightly different size of seal so could it be that not all manual furlers installed through production line were same?

Best Regards,
--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME