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Surveyor Preveza Greece
James Alton
Hello,
We are about to return to our Amel in Preveza Greece. Oliver B. was tentatively scheduled to handle the required insurance survey but has since become too busy to help in time. Due to the COVID restrictions we have not been able to return to the boat until recently so we soon need to move the boat out of the Schengen zone. Can anyone suggest a surveyor who could handle this for us during the first half of September? Thanks for any help. James Alton SV Sueno Maramu #220
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Re: Bali Hai Abandoned
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Yes it is interesting that in stress situations the boat is often more resilient than the crew and bad decisions are made. But unless you are there experiencing what they experience it is difficult to judge. However the availability of helicopter rescue is one factor that could allow crew to put unsustainable pressure on the skipper. Wouldn't we all have loved to be there to pick up that boat. In my pre offshore briefings to the crew I tell them if something goes wrong we fix it. Not to even consider rescue, because in our Pacific situation rescue could be 24 hours away and if we can survive the situation for 24 hours???? Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 25 August 2021 at 15:46 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Bali Hai Abandoned
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Profound seasickness—interesting! If you google “The one that got away” in ocean navigator there is an article about us and another boat. A Canadian sailed south and was 400 miles from Puerto Rico when he called for help due to extreme dehydration. We were asked to assist. We were within 200 feet of a beautiful sailboat just bobbing in the sea. Without a skipper. Unfortunately, the rescue ship took the boat in tow. When the tow broke, they gave us the position. After towing it for 8 hours we got there near sunset,
I was concerned about getting crew on board as it was getting dark soon. If they would have not taken it in tow, we would have sailed it to St Maarten and returned it to the boat owner without a salvage fee. My crew was very bummed out as we could have easily salvaged her if it was not towed—The boat was named SCAT—what a name . It turned up in Jost van Dyk
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Harries via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 9:25 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned
There were likely other factors such as: Unable to deploy drone or sea anchor Physical injuries from being thrown about Psychological impact if skipper and Admiral disagree on strategy.
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Re: Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Thanks Bill. Fair Winds ERIC
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 9:00 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator
SM 387 has Onan Model 7MDKAV2317, SN# JO10296057, Powered By Kubota 3-Cyl Diesel Mdl D1105, Sn# In5262, 7Kw, 50 Hz, 220 Volt At 1500 Rpm
Bill
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 8:51 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Bali Hai Abandoned
Paul Harries
There were likely other factors such as:
Profound sea sickness Unable to deploy drone or sea anchor
Physical injuries from being thrown about
Psychological impact if skipper and Admiral disagree on strategy.
It is very interesting that even calm, collective individuals can have a change of mindset under adverse conditions when serial failures also occur. This pattern is often seen aviation disasters but also in other venues such as the operating room! Some have described it as a temporary brain fog, a bit like when we are lost but fail to accept the fact when reconciling assumed position with chart or map. -- Paul Harries Prospective Amel Buyer
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Re: Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator
Paul Harries
Bill, that is impressive, to know the serial no of a generator on a boat you have never owned! Wow!
-- Paul Harries Prospective Amel Buyer
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Re: Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator
SM 387 has Onan Model 7MDKAV2317, SN# JO10296057, Powered By Kubota 3-Cyl Diesel Mdl D1105, Sn# In5262, 7Kw, 50 Hz, 220 Volt At 1500 Rpm Bill
On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 8:51 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Bali Hai Abandoned
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
The boat still had a bit of sail up and looking at the wave height I don’t think the wind was above 45 knots. In addition the story mentioned they were over 150 miles east of Hatteras. Lots of room to play. Each person has their own limit when it comes to issues on the boat. I believe there is more to this story. Fair Winds ERIC Kimberlite Amel SM 376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mark Erdos
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 9:02 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned
Certainly not being judgmental but, the conditions don’t seem life treating. The boat seems to be going along just fine with the stern into the weather. Was there other equipment failures?
The jumping into the water and being hoisted into a helicopter would scare me a hell of a lot more than riding out the weather.
What was the story on the boat? I can imagine it sunk. Was it found sailing along somewhere by itself?
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
The Bali Hai incident happened Nov. 2020, not recently.
Pat SM Shenanigans -----Original Message----- I am surprised that Bali Hai was abandoned. Does anyone know the experience of the crew, Was Bali Hai ever recovered? The seas did not seem so bad, I am sure that a Jordan Series drogue would have made the difference and she would still be floating with the same owners. Fair Winds ERIC Kimberlite Amel SM 376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Regrettably, Bali Hai was lost in the Atlantic near the US shore when the crew abandoned her.
Here are some photos of an aft cabin hatch install on a SM. I do not recommend the wooden outside spacer used in this modification. If an external spacer is used I believe it should be fabricated from GRP.
That coach roof is balsa filled, so any penetration should be done by experienced people and care should be taken that the exposed balsa in sealed correctly.
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:14 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
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Kubota engine model number for the MDKAV generator
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Hi, I am looking for some parts for my MDKAV Onan generator. It has a Kubota engine , unfortunately someone at Onan painted over the model plate. Does anyone know the model number of the engine? Fair Winds ERIC Kimberlite Amel SM 376
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Re: Bali Hai Abandoned
Certainly not being judgmental but, the conditions don’t seem life treating. The boat seems to be going along just fine with the stern into the weather. Was there other equipment failures?
The jumping into the water and being hoisted into a helicopter would scare me a hell of a lot more than riding out the weather.
What was the story on the boat? I can imagine it sunk. Was it found sailing along somewhere by itself?
With best regards,
Mark
Skipper Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275 Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia www.creampuff.us
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On
Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
The Bali Hai incident happened Nov. 2020, not recently.
Pat SM Shenanigans
-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2021 5:00 pm Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned I am surprised that Bali Hai was abandoned. Does anyone know the experience of the crew, Was Bali Hai ever recovered? The seas did not seem so bad, I am sure that a Jordan Series drogue would have made the difference and she would still be floating with the same owners. Fair Winds ERIC Kimberlite Amel SM 376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
<main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Regrettably, Bali Hai was lost in the Atlantic near the US shore when the crew abandoned her.
Here are some photos of an aft cabin hatch install on a SM. I do not recommend the wooden outside spacer used in this modification. If an external spacer is used I believe it should be fabricated from GRP.
That coach roof is balsa filled, so any penetration should be done by experienced people and care should be taken that the exposed balsa in sealed correctly.
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:14 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
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Re: Annapolis Open Boat Saturday 10/16 4-8pm
Paul Harries
Thinking of attending, any advice on best day to visit? Nothing on Amel site, is it necessary to prebook tour?
-- Paul Harries Prospective Amel Buyer
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Re: Bali Hai Abandoned
Patrick McAneny
We met the owner a couple of times, he was out of Annapolis. It would be interesting to know the outcome,if he retrieved his boat.
Pat
SM Shenanigans
Sassafras River, Md.
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Maguire <justin_maguire@...> To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Sent: Tue, Aug 24, 2021 5:08 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned
Was it ever cleared up as to what the problem was?
On Aug 24, 2021, at 13:24, Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...> wrote:
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Re: Annapolis Open Boat Saturday 10/16 4-8pm
Justin Maguire
For those of you looking – my amel 50 will be the amel show boat at Annapolis.
Sent from Mail for Windows
From: Denis Angleton
Karen, Thanks for the gracious offer, I just messaged you and hope to be able to meet you in Annapolis.
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Re: Annapolis Open Boat Saturday 10/16 4-8pm
Denis Angleton
Karen, Thanks for the gracious offer, I just messaged you and hope to be able to meet you in Annapolis.
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Re: Bali Hai Abandoned
Justin Maguire
Was it ever cleared up as to what the problem was?
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On Aug 24, 2021, at 13:24, Patrick McAneny via groups.io <sailw32@...> wrote:
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Re: Bali Hai Abandoned
Patrick McAneny
The Bali Hai incident happened Nov. 2020, not recently.
Pat
SM Shenanigans
-----Original Message-----
From: eric freedman <kimberlite@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Sun, Aug 22, 2021 5:00 pm Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Bali Hai Abandoned I am surprised that Bali Hai was abandoned. Does anyone know the experience of the crew, Was Bali Hai ever recovered?
The seas did not seem so bad, I am sure that a Jordan Series drogue would have made the difference and she would still be floating with the same owners.
Fair Winds
ERIC
Kimberlite Amel SM 376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2021 11:28 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Super Maramu Rear Cabin - Proposed New Top hatch Regrettably, Bali Hai was lost in the Atlantic near the US shore when the crew abandoned her.
Here are some photos of an aft cabin hatch install on a SM. I do not recommend the wooden outside spacer used in this modification. If an external spacer is used I believe it should be fabricated from GRP.
That coach roof is balsa filled, so any penetration should be done by experienced people and care should be taken that the exposed balsa in sealed correctly.
 
On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 11:14 AM ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@...> <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote:
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Re: Interiour polish
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Ross, yes it is New Zealand made but in 2008 when we bought Ocean Pearl in Florida the previous owner left a bottle on board. Kind Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 24 August 2021 at 22:10 "Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io" <southernadventurer@...> wrote:
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Annapolis Open Boat Saturday 10/16 4-8pm
Karen Smith
Everyone is invited to visit our boat Harmonie, Amel Super Maramu #160, on Saturday October 16 from 4-8pm on the dock at Bert Jabins Yacht Yard in Annapolis. Current and future owners please do come. It’s always a pleasure to meet current and new Amelians and talk all things boat! An RSVP is requested to KLS6917@... Vaccinated or masks requested
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Repairing gelcoat at the entrance
I have a lot of broken small parts of finish on the area near to entrance of the boat. It was there when I bough Bonne Anse. As I am not an expert in this kind of work I need some advice how to do it, or maybe I should take her in to Amel service center for repairs. I have attached photos.
-- Slavko SM 2000 #279 Bonne Anse in Umag, Croatia
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Re: Amazon has over 1000 BSP pipe fittings.
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 5:36 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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