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Re: Cracked Fitting on Main Boom

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Adam,

If you search the forum you will find lots of posts about these things...
They are (were) available from Amel in La Rochelle - sav at amel dot fr
They can be quite difficult to remove as the stainless bolts and the alloy block weld themselves together over the years.
We took this fitting out and had an alloy plate welded to the boom...a la Amel 54, to avoid this issue in the future.

Good luck
Alan
Elyse SM437


Cracked Fitting on Main Boom

Adam Carpenter
 

Hello, 

I found the aluminium main sheet attachment on the boom is cracked on the aft end. 

Does anyone know where I can find a replacement?

Alternatively has anyone successfully repaired this fitting, it appears to be anodized aluminium.

Much appreciated.

Adam 
Lady Annabelle #339
Australia






Re: National ensign on top of mizzen mast

Joerg Esdorn
 

Thanks very much, Paul.  Cheers Joerg


Re: National ensign on top of mizzen mast

Paul Osterberg
 

Jörgen
We just tie it on the rail, will probably put a small cleat at the centre of the solar panels on the arc.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM 259


Re: Delivery cost from AMEL #spares

Justin Maguire
 

Shipping globally is simply WAAY more expensive due to the mess that is supply chain logistics right now.  


On Nov 24, 2021, at 17:23, Mark McGovern <mfmcgovern@...> wrote:

Slavko,

I am in the USA and yes, shipping costs from Amel are pretty high.  However, Amel is probably charging you exactly what they are being charged by the shipper.  As stated earlier, Amel is a boatbuilder, not an online retailer.  Therefore, they have a very small shipping volume and are probably paying "full retail" price for shipping and are just passing this cost onto you (as they should!).  Large volume shippers get huge discounts from carriers like UPS, FedEx and DHL compared to low volume shippers. I know this because I own a small manufacturing business in the USA.  One of my customers is large distributor.  Because their shipping volume is thousands of times larger than ours they pay 65%-75% less to ship the exact same package to exact same place.  So UPS will charge me $100 to ship a package yet only charge them $25-$35.  Lately, the rates have gotten even worse for small volume shippers.

I keep a spreadsheet of "Amel Parts to Order" and then when the time comes that I really need them, I place a good size order.  I also tend to buy "generic" parts like oil seals and bearing locally. 

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Belfast, ME USA


Re: Delivery cost from AMEL #spares

Mark McGovern
 
Edited

Slavko,

I am in the USA and yes, shipping costs from Amel are pretty high.  However, Amel is probably charging you exactly what they are being charged by the shipper.  As stated earlier, Amel is a boatbuilder, not an online retailer.  Therefore, they have a very small shipping volume and are probably paying "full retail" price for shipping and are just passing this cost onto you (as they should!).  Large volume shippers get huge discounts from carriers like UPS, FedEx and DHL compared to low volume shippers. I know this because I own a small manufacturing business in the USA.  One of my customers is a large distributor.  Because their shipping volume is thousands of times larger than ours, they pay 65%-75% less to ship the exact same package to the exact same place.  So UPS will charge me $100 to ship a package yet only charge them $25-$35.  Lately, the rates have gotten even worse for small volume shippers.

I keep a spreadsheet of "Amel Parts to Order" and then when the time comes that I really need them, I place a good size order.  I also tend to buy "generic" parts like oil seals and bearings locally. 

--
Mark McGovern
SM #440 Cara
Belfast, ME USA


Re: Hi Res SM drawing picture

heinz@quetzal.berlin
 

Hier is a Link there are also amel Logos for caps and shirts.
Cheers Heinz


Mit freundlichen Grüßen 
Heinz Stutenbäumer



Am 24.11.2021 um 15:38 schrieb Jérémy <jeremy@...>:



Hi all,

Does anyone have a high resolution picture of this Super Maramu drawing :

<kaphelklikkmbiie.png>


Thanks !

-- 
Jérémy
SM#121

--
SM #121 Nausicaä
Nantes, France

--
Hello 
Since yesterday when I tried to park in a box in a marina in Auckland my bow thruster motor failed. 
If I turn the beam to the left or right the whole power supply breaks down for a moment. After that the power is back. 
I took the rudder off and it can be turned perfectly by hand. 
But the same happens with the engine. No power for a few seconds, all instruments off, no rotation of the motor. 
Does anyone know this problem. 
Does anyone know how I can find out if it's the motor or maybe a relay that doesn't work. 
Can I test the motor without a relay, maybe on the 4 cables marked D1, D2, and A1, A2?
I am grateful for a quick answer.
Heinz SY Quetzal, SM 2000, 292


Re: Amel 55 - captain's seat

 

I am sure that Judy and I are not alone with what we did on passages. Most of the time we were not in the SM helm seat, rather we sat elsewhere in the cockpit. That said, we appreciated the design and engineering of the SM helm seat in heavy weather and especially a cyclone. That basic design is the foundation of the helm seat design for the SN, 54, 55, 64, 50, and 60. The 50 & 60 have the added features of an adjustable and swivel helm seat. The progression from the SM to the 50/60 helm seat is very clear to me. Each new Amel model improved the original helm seat from the previous models.

Some unique and especially beneficial designs and features in all Amel models are not immediately understandable. In fact, some of them took me years to completely understand.

This is the helm seat on an Amel 54. This photo says much about the Amel Helm Seat.
Amel under sail at night.jpg

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 9:08 AM Bruno COTTE <cotte.bruno@...> wrote:
Agreed totally I am a little bit more than 6 foot and no problem at the wheel of my A 55#63
As Sup up I consider the 54 better than the super maramu and the 55 better than the 54. With the A 60 and A 60 there is a change of global philosophy so it is almost impossible to compare ….

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 24 nov. 2021 à 17:54, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> a écrit :

Joan, I'm sorry you're having trouble with the A55 helmsman seat.  I'm 5'10" and find the seat quite comfortable.  When sailing longer distances heeled, I often sit sideways in the seat with my feet up on the cockpit table and have a number of small sofa cushions in my back to increase comfort.  

If the moderators permit, I'd also would like to make a point of order.  I personally find it annoying that many questions about an issue or problem with the newer boats on this forum draw an answer from one or more of the many owners of older boats to the effect that their boats are really very superior and don't have the particular issue or problem the newer boats have.  I think this site could really do without those types of comments.  They do not help us all improve our experiences with our boats, clutter up the site and make it more difficult to find the answers we're looking for.  I eliminated the SM from my consideration after being on one for a couple of hours.  But I'm not trashing the SM because something I didn't like about it.
Just my five cents.   

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle 


Re: Hi Res SM drawing picture

 

These are the best that I have:




CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 8:38 AM Jérémy <jeremy@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Does anyone have a high resolution picture of this Super Maramu drawing :


Thanks !

-- 
Jérémy
SM#121

--
SM #121 Nausicaä
Nantes, France


Re: Amel 55 - captain's seat

Bruno COTTE
 

Agreed totally I am a little bit more than 6 foot and no problem at the wheel of my A 55#63
As Sup up I consider the 54 better than the super maramu and the 55 better than the 54. With the A 60 and A 60 there is a change of global philosophy so it is almost impossible to compare ….

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 24 nov. 2021 à 17:54, Joerg Esdorn via groups.io <jhe1313@...> a écrit :

Joan, I'm sorry you're having trouble with the A55 helmsman seat.  I'm 5'10" and find the seat quite comfortable.  When sailing longer distances heeled, I often sit sideways in the seat with my feet up on the cockpit table and have a number of small sofa cushions in my back to increase comfort.  

If the moderators permit, I'd also would like to make a point of order.  I personally find it annoying that many questions about an issue or problem with the newer boats on this forum draw an answer from one or more of the many owners of older boats to the effect that their boats are really very superior and don't have the particular issue or problem the newer boats have.  I think this site could really do without those types of comments.  They do not help us all improve our experiences with our boats, clutter up the site and make it more difficult to find the answers we're looking for.  I eliminated the SM from my consideration after being on one for a couple of hours.  But I'm not trashing the SM because something I didn't like about it.
Just my five cents.   

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle 


Re: Amel 55 - captain's seat

Joerg Esdorn
 

Joan, I'm sorry you're having trouble with the A55 helmsman seat.  I'm 5'10" and find the seat quite comfortable.  When sailing longer distances heeled, I often sit sideways in the seat with my feet up on the cockpit table and have a number of small sofa cushions in my back to increase comfort.  

If the moderators permit, I'd also would like to make a point of order.  I personally find it annoying that many questions about an issue or problem with the newer boats on this forum draw an answer from one or more of the many owners of older boats to the effect that their boats are really very superior and don't have the particular issue or problem the newer boats have.  I think this site could really do without those types of comments.  They do not help us all improve our experiences with our boats, clutter up the site and make it more difficult to find the answers we're looking for.  I eliminated the SM from my consideration after being on one for a couple of hours.  But I'm not trashing the SM because something I didn't like about it.
Just my five cents.   

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #53 Kincsem
Currently in La Rochelle 


Hi Res SM drawing picture

Jérémy
 

Hi all,

Does anyone have a high resolution picture of this Super Maramu drawing :


Thanks !

-- 
Jérémy
SM#121

--
SM #121 Nausicaä
Nantes, France


Re: National ensign on top of mizzen mast

Joerg Esdorn
 

Thank you, Paul.  Where do you lead the bottom of the flag halyard?  

Joerg Esdorn


Re: Delivery cost from AMEL #spares

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hi Arno,

I did not put this as negative complaint to Amel. I was looking for more reasonable solution. The order was 100 pcs of plastic plugs, Rudder bolt and Packing stuff for rudder post. It was a small box 20X10X4 cm. Nothing special. When I send something of this size with DHL in Europe the cost is marginal.
At the same time I have ordered springs (cost 50euro) from Antal, delivery cost was 10 euro from Italy. 
I agree that Amel is doing superb job of keeping as much as possible spare for older models, but this is the part of Amel way of doing business. Exceptional support for our boats. That keeps the value of the boats as well.  
I learned my lesson and in the future I will be make bigger orders and the delivery cost will be reasonable.
And my name is Slavko :)).

Best regards.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia


Re: Delivery cost from AMEL #spares

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Slavo,

Keep in mind that Amel is a boat builder and not a parts supplier or a shop. The fact that they supply parts makes them a better boat builder but they do have to charge the logistic costs to you as well to keep this a viable process. For them these ad-hoc logistics are quite a disturbance of their primary process.
Shops typically have deals with logistic partners to keep the transport costs down. I don't think Amel has enough volume in parts to do such a thing
When I owned a Hallberg Rassy I found out they actually had someone start a separate company to deal with all these requests. On itself a very clever idea that may work for Amel as well but they charged decent money as well to send things over.
So yes I agree it can be annoying but I praise the service Amel provides us with helping us to keep afloat.

Just my 2 cents.

Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Delivery cost from AMEL #spares

Bruno COTTE
 

In Turkey you have a Amel
Representative in Gocek . 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 24 nov. 2021 à 13:56, Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond via groups.io <southernadventurer@...> a écrit :

 Yes it certainly is a problem in Europe and a gamble as to how much you actually get charged when bringing items into another country. We are currently in Turkey where Amel will not ship items to. Probably due to import costs.

Regards
Ross and Donna
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey


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On Wednesday, November 24, 2021, 11:05 AM, Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:

I have ordered some small parts from Amel all together for 70 Euro. Delivery cost from France to Slovenia was almost 68Euro. So total order cost was 158Euro including VAT. Other supplier cost in Europe are much lower, 10 Euro for this kind of orders. I do not want to be negative and AMEL is very responsive so there is no issue. Question is, do you experience the same issue? Or if not, how do you handle shipments from Amel.
For comparison I have ordered ZODIAC dinghy from seller in Austria, and some small items, shipment weight was 50kg, shipping cost was 18 Euro.
I hope I do not violate any rules of this site.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia

--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey


Re: Delivery cost from AMEL #spares

Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
 

Yes it certainly is a problem in Europe and a gamble as to how much you actually get charged when bringing items into another country. We are currently in Turkey where Amel will not ship items to. Probably due to import costs.

Regards
Ross and Donna
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356

On Wednesday, November 24, 2021, 11:05 AM, Slavko Despotovic <slavko@...> wrote:

I have ordered some small parts from Amel all together for 70 Euro. Delivery cost from France to Slovenia was almost 68Euro. So total order cost was 158Euro including VAT. Other supplier cost in Europe are much lower, 10 Euro for this kind of orders. I do not want to be negative and AMEL is very responsive so there is no issue. Question is, do you experience the same issue? Or if not, how do you handle shipments from Amel.
For comparison I have ordered ZODIAC dinghy from seller in Austria, and some small items, shipment weight was 50kg, shipping cost was 18 Euro.
I hope I do not violate any rules of this site.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia

--
Ross Hickey & Donna Hammond
SV Intrepid Kiwi
SM2K #356
Currently in Turkey


Re: Retractable bow thruster replacement

Paul Peschel
 

Many thanks for all your replies and tips!  🙏🙏🙏

Since I still have all the important parts (Shaft, bearing, propeller,..) and only the bearing housing is broken, I want to try to fix it first before considering a new system. So I measured the remaining part and created a 3D model ( which you can find here if interested:  https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1399ygbJxGDwj2QWs8F_ks_N7xXlpLo13 )

The plan is to 3D print the part and reinforces it with fiberglass and epoxy. I got a test print ( the purple one in the picture) to check dimensions, but unfortunately, there was no 3d print shop that could print in a high-quality filament such as nylon or carbon within two weeks in Cartagena / Spain where we have been hauled out.  So I have closed the hole for now and postponed the project. One more on the to-do list :-) 


Does anyone have experience with reinforced 3D printed parts?


Once this works I will share it here in the forum and occasionally there will be an update on instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blue.calling/

 


Delivery cost from AMEL #spares

Slavko Despotovic
 

I have ordered some small parts from Amel all together for 70 Euro. Delivery cost from France to Slovenia was almost 68Euro. So total order cost was 158Euro including VAT. Other supplier cost in Europe are much lower, 10 Euro for this kind of orders. I do not want to be negative and AMEL is very responsive so there is no issue. Question is, do you experience the same issue? Or if not, how do you handle shipments from Amel.
For comparison I have ordered ZODIAC dinghy from seller in Austria, and some small items, shipment weight was 50kg, shipping cost was 18 Euro.
I hope I do not violate any rules of this site.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Croatia


Re: Retractable bow thruster replacement

Paul Peschel
 

Hi Eric,

it's an Amel Sharki from 1980 and is currently on the way to the Canary Islands. Where did you get the spare thruster from?

Paul

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