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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
There are indoor propane heaters. I believe they recommend leaving a window cracked
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On Dec 7, 2020, at 3:00 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:
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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
Unfortunately I can add a similar accident. 6 years ago the heating system in the house of one of my cousins had been broken down. For some odd reasons he refused to ask for a repair. It was winter and he wanted to take a bath so he brought a charcoal barbecue into the bathroom, enlightetd the fire, closed all windows and doors as tight as he could and stepped into the bathtub. You can imagine the result, only his dog survived because it was in the living room. Mago del Sur - 54#40 |
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Re: A55 , # 9
Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
Hi Jörg, I hopefully may return to my boat in Florida after 1 year next march. I am thinking to replace my 600Ah/24V batteries with Battle Born batteries 12x50Ah/24 V. On this way I will bring my whole system to the Mastervolt Bus . 3 years ago I changed the Mastercharger -100A to MV CombiUltra 100/3500. This inverter (charger to the batteries) connects to microwave and 220 Volt outlets. I will try to fix the MV chargemaster 100 A in the room left to the batteries with additional ventilation. By this way the 24 V cabels should be short and I will not pass the cables through the engine-room. A MV-shunt 500 will be added. So my question: I will bypass the shunt for the bowthruster because auf its high load. 2.) I will bring an extra MV Easyview - one is already near the Onan switchboard-in the cockpit to switch the MV 100A Charger next to a new Onan switch in the cockpit/helm station. The MV alpha regulator will be changed to a MV alpha pro III which also connects to the MV Bus. I hope to optimize my generator time. Solar arch is not an option for me. Any comments? Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162
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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
There was a very sad case in New Zealand a few years back. It was four guys out on a mountain hunting trip. One night they were in a mountain hut and it was very cold so they brought the gas barbecue inside and left it running all night. In the morning three were dead and the survivor had his nose close to the gap under the door. Carbon monoxide is the killer I believe, odorless and the effects are insidious. In the past on a previous boat I used the gas stove to warm us at 2 am after a race, but not any more Regards Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl On 08 December 2020 at 07:14 eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Peter, I used the stove. The same one we cook on. I seemed to have survived the use as a heater as I ran it for 1 ½ days years ago before installing the Espar Heater. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
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Eric, How wise it it to burn propane in an enclosed space albeit with a slightly open companionway?
Does your CO2 or CO alarm sound off? Appears that CO2 and H2O are byproducts - condensation & suffocating gas. Regards, Peter On 7/12/2020 11:13 am, eric freedman wrote:
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eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Jeff, I meant to use a pump to fill the tank. To empty the tank I just stick the hose in the fuel fill and open the valve. Wednesday sounds good for dinner. I am heading South Saturday. Fair Winds Eric
You would know if you had the fresh air system as there is a separate circuit breaker for it.
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Re: A55 , # 9
Jorg Schambach
On my 55#44 I have still original MV 12V/200A gel batteries for service and replaced last year the starting battery MV 90 Ah AGM, The ventilation exist as Joerg describe earlier I have changed the ventilator on it this year (JABSCO 35770-0094 Continuous duty 100mm (4") blower, 24V running on 12V} and have only 1 shunt.
Best, Jörg A55#44 |
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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
Peter Luke
Eric, How wise it it to burn propane in an enclosed space albeit with a slightly open companionway?
Does your CO2 or CO alarm sound off? Appears that CO2 and H2O are byproducts - condensation & suffocating gas. Regards, Peter On 7/12/2020 11:13 am, eric freedman wrote:
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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
JEFFREY KRAUS
Eric,
I'll look to see if I have those blowers, but I don't believe I have them. The luxury of linking the heater with the engine and hot water circuits, along with the option of a cockpit heating unit seem to make the hydronic system a great option. As far as pumping fuel from the bladder, it doesn't get any easier then a siphon system. I'm free thru wednesday. I'm making a scallop trip friday, and we leave 2am. How's Wednesday nite for dinner? Roberto, Charles, Jeff G.? Anyone else? Jeff |
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Re: 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater
JEFFREY KRAUS
Good Morning Alan,
At the risk of sounding stupid, what do you mean by "low SOC batteries?" I avoid letting my battery voltage drop below 24volts. They are standard lead acid. I was also looking into a means to shut off the alternator from charging. Is your last sentence a description of that? Overcharging on extended periods of motoring has presented problems, and if I could have the option of shutting off the charging circuit from the alternator to the batteries, it would be fail safe for the battery bank. Best Regards, Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14 |
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Re: Cleaning fresh water tank on my SM2K
Hi,
I hove done some research on net and there are some sailors that use white vinegar for tank cleaning. It is more environmentally friendly. Anyone have used this method for water tank cleaning? here is a link with explanation https://rvblogger.com/blog/safe-sanitize-rv-water-tank-vinegar/ I use white vinegar for my coffee machine cleaning and it is very successful. It is interesting that machine heats up the mixture of water in vinegar before it goes trough the machine. My water tank needs to be cleaned so I am looking for the best and friendly procedure. Slavko SM 2000 #279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz |
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Re: Heater and fuel bladder
eric freedman <kimberlite@...>
Hi Jeff, Kimberlite came with a couple of blowers mounted under the port coming in my port locker. I was hooked to ductwork to blow fresh air into the aft cabin, the main cabin , and the forward cabin. It was very easy to hook an Espar heater into this system as the ductwork was in place. I don’t know if the 54 was supplied with this option. If you do not have these ducts, then I agree that hot water with blowers is the way to go.
I think you will find pumping the fuel into the tank a lot easier than using fuel nozzle. You also do not get air into the bladder. In the interim If you turn on the stove and open the companionway a crack it heats up the main cabin nicely. Some old timers used to use red clay flower pots over the burners to act as radiators.
I am off to Kimberlite on the 12th and will return on the 21st Dinner? Fair Winds Eric
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Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2020 6:40 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Heater and fuel bladder
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem
There is not a general rule as to what needs to be replaced, but for a good overall view of what you might need to do (some, maybe all) go to this Super Maramu overhaul of the Bow Thruster:
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Re: 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater
Hello Jeff,
Re Smart External Regulators There are a lot of them on the market and they mostly work the same way, except the Sterling units which don't require alternator modification (I don;t understand how they work). The majority require you to modify the alternator to disconnect the internal regulator and bring out the wires from the brushes (the field connection) to connect to the external regulator. That's easy enough to do, but you need to be aware that the standard Leece Neville 175A alternator is not continuously rated for full output. In other words with a smart regulator and low SOC batteries, when you start the engine, the reg will deliver max field current to the alternator and it will produce 175A - until either the batteries charge up quickly and the current drops or the alternator burns up. You need to be aware of this so that you can manage the system, by either not allowing the batteries to get too low (always a good plan) or being prepared to start the genset and switch on the battery chargers to relieve the load on the alternator. There is information in the FILES section on alternator mods for smart regulators. Another useful thing to have is a switch to disconnect the reg field connection when your batteries are fully charged so that when you are running the engine for short trips around the marina, for example, you don't start up a charging cycle when you don't need it. I don't know anything about heaters ! Good luck Cheers Alan Elyse SM437 |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: bow thruster service. Problem
Ben "Santorin LO"
Hi All,
Just to update you, for a quick fix, I put just VERY little silicon around the worn seal and then used old inner tube cut wrapped around the the shaft pressed to the bottom where it goes into the hole (above the seal) - 600miles with the bow diving frequently - not a drop came in, the better thing - less then a minute to remove and safely moored in the marina. Now, before ordering the maintenance kit, an anyone tell me what need to check / maintain replace on the electric motor bottom (Bill - you mentioned something and I was also told there is a bearing better be replaced after a while. Will be back with more topics when lift on the hard soon... Rgds |
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Re: A54 bilge pump problems...
Chris, probably pumping better because you sealed any minute vacuum side leaks as well as fixing the mechanical problem with the Delrin gear. Bill
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 3:02 AM Chris Likins <likinsca@...> wrote:
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Re: A55 , # 9
Hi Stuart, 160 V batteries? Sorry to hear you're having problems. My boat came with 6 MV 12/200 gel batteries for the house bank and a MV 90 Ah AGM battery to start the engine and generator. According to the plans, there was only one shunt although I've not confirmed that fact. Plan attached. The battery compartment has a watertight seal to the cabin sole although as Billy indicates, there are cables existing from it so it may be that it is not fully watertight. In any event, it is ventilated by a fan in the engine room - pic attached. The fan is right next to the water pump reservoir. There are hoses entering and exiting the battery compartment right above the bilge - you can't miss them on my boat. See the hoses furthest left and right in the picture of the bilge. I hope that helps. I have had the gels replaced with MV MLI 24/5500 LiFePO4 batteries just this year. I also had a second shunt installed to monitor the engine battery.
  Cheers JoergJoerg Esdorn A55 #53 Kincsem On the hard in Vigo, Spain |
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Re: 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater
Thanks Jeff hopefully heading south in January but we’ll see
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Cheers 🥂 Courtney Trippin 54#101 Brunswick
On Dec 6, 2020, at 6:44 AM, JEFFREY KRAUS <jmkraus@...> wrote:
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Billy Newport
I have #56. I have agms. There is 1 shunt. The boxes are not ventilated as far as I can see. They are not watertight as the wires exit through a hole leading under the nav table which is not sealed.
I replaced the original batteries in June. My boat is Sept 2016. Billy |
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Re: 3 topics Smart Regulator Hydronic diesel heater
JEFFREY KRAUS
Courtney,
I haven't tried to post any pictures onto the Amel site. I'll try to figure out how to do it, and take some pictures of the components, and the put the pictures up. It's a pretty simple set up. Jeff Spirit Amel 54 #14 Shinnecock, NY |
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