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Re: Alternator to house bank charging
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Both examples look good. Certainly keen to keep the LN175amp alternator if we can. The Wakespeed WS500 looks like a good product for now and the future. Cheers Ross and Donna SV Intrepid Kiwi SM2K 356
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Zoom meeting - QSails owner/manager will present sails for Amels - Sat, 09/12/2020 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP
#cal-reminder
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Reminder: Zoom meeting - QSails owner/manager will present sails for Amels When: Saturday, 12 September 2020, 20:00 to 21:00, (GMT+00:00) UTC An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP Description: Time will be 2000 UTC. QSails offers very fast shipments of sails for many Amel models. In fact, many Amel sails are actually shipped from pre-made stock at QSails. Zoom link for the meeting: Topic: AYOG Monthly Zoom Meeting: QSails Time: Sep 12, 2020 20:00 Greenwich Mean Time Join Zoom Meeting https://epfl.zoom.us/j/94687396754 Meeting ID: 946 8739 6754 Link for the Youtube stream: https://youtu.be/nQob9dJu3RE |
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Re: Alternator to house bank charging
You can replace the Leece-Neville internal dumb regulator with an external smart regulator. Email me is you want instructions brouse@...
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Re: Water maker Questions
I suggest that you need to back up some from your assumptions and take a different approach. First of all, if you pay £500, for SW302521 Filmtec membranes, you are definitely overpaying. They should be about $200USD plus VAT/Freight. There is one membrane manufacturer in the world, so it makes no difference where you buy membranes. Allow me to make a few points:
I suggest that once you put the Dessalator water maker in good working condition that you religiously do the following:
I hope this helps you.
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Re: Alternator to house bank charging
Mark McGovern
Ross,
You could just install an external alternator controller that will allow you to program the alternator to safely charge either your new AGM or future LiFePO4 batteries. Examples include: Wakespeed WS500: http://wakespeed.com/products.html Balmar MC-624: https://balmar.net/?product=reguor-mc-624-h -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPMs and Temperature reading
Pat, thanks for the suggestions.
Yes I am going to order 2 infrared guns! Sounds like a good thing to have. I cleaned the heat exchanger in March and the boat sat at Le Phare Blue (Grenada) for 5 months. Also, the temperature gauge read high even at idle RPM. So I think I can exclude the heat exchanger. No, I did not see steam pushing past the radiator cap. There were a few bubbles of air that came out but the antifreeze was only warm. Ipanema has still the original Volvo Penta TM22. Is the rubber ring/gasket the one that looks like a radiator the cap? I will conduct later on a test of the heat sensor to see how accurate it is and compare the temp with that of an infrared gun. So, the saga continues Jose Ipanema SM2K 278 |
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Re: Alternator to house bank charging
Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...>
He Ross he Donna
Look hier by the Mastervolt altinator he is expencive but you can change the program for AGM and licium https://www.mastervolt.de/produkte/lichtmaschinen-laderegler/
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Re: Super Maramu Ballooner halyard hook
Michael & Robyn
Greetings!
just ordered two new ones from Maud. [01888] CROCHET DE BALLOONER ERTALYTE/ Ballooner hook (Ertalyte) for 74EUR each w/o VAT + shipping kind regards -- Michael & Robyn SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417 |
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Re: Ice makers - Looks good, but where do you place it? it's gonna heat the saloon tremendously generating the ice inside?
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Alternator to house bank charging
Hi Team,
We have recently replaced our house batteries with 12 x Victron 110amp Gel batteries to give us 660amp capacity. We have Solar set up through a Victron MPPT with 3 x 200w panels We ultimately want to change to Lithium in the future and are making changes to our charging system and to protect the Gel batteries in the meantime. We have recently installed a Victron Skylla i100amp charger as the old Dolphin 100amp could not be programmed to charge Gel batteries. The 30amp shore power charger does have a switch to charge Gel batteries, so we will keep with that for the moment unless any of you advise that we should change that also. The other change we will need to look at is replacing the Lecce-Neville 175amp house alternator as this could potentially overcharge the Gel Batteries. We are looking at different options that would suit the charging of the Gel batteries and also be suitable for charging a Lithium set up in the future. A Balmar alternator has been recommended by one company in New Zealand and we are currently doing some research on this alternator. Ideally we want something that will do the job now and in the future with minimum adjustment to the current alternator bracket and belt system. We are also looking at a Balmar MC614 Max charge regulator so as to regulate the charge to the Gel batteries. Lastly because we kept the Lead acid start battery we will look at installing a Balmar Digital Duo charge to regulate the charge between the two battery types. Has anyone out there done a similar set up or have any advise on best alternator for our system and future compatibility to Lithium. Any advise would be appreciated. Kind regards Ross & Donna SV Intrepid Kiwi SM2K 365 Currently in Turkey |
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Hello Ken,
Great vidéo informative and entertaining. I understood you went for 12V Lifepo. On the chat it was advised to go for 24V Lifepo that would better balance the cells by the integrated BMS. But then you can’t use it for emergency start of the engine (or the generator) without a 24V to 12V transformer which has added cost and something more to not work when needed the most. is this correct ? Thank s Denis Meltem 32 |
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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RPMs and Temperature reading
Patrick McAneny
Jose, It sounds as though you think it may be a matter of sensors giving you a false reading ,yet you said the exhaust was steaming ,was there other signs of overheating ,like antifreeze or steam pushing past the radiator cap. To bad you don't have a infrared gun, I have two to take readings to make sure they agree . I have not read any mention of the heat exchanger, have you cleaned it ? If it is clogged your temps can be normal at low RPMs and go up quickly with an increase in the RPM. What engine do you have ? If it is a Volvo than I had a overheating issue like I just described and discovered it was a rubber ring/gasket in the H/E . You should find a previous post describing the issue in detail. If you have a Volvo and you cannot find my previous post ,let me know and I will explain about this ring and its function and how if it is missing , your temps rise with the rpms.
Good Luck,
Pat
SM Shenanigans -----Original Message-----
From: Jose Venegas via groups.io <josegvenegas@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Fri, Sep 4, 2020 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] [Amel Yacht Owners] RPMs and Temperature reading Thank you for the suggestions. I know that both thermostats are OK, they open before the water boils. I will make the test of the sensor/gauge with boiling water to see if it is a measurement problem. I like the idea of having a second measurement available and perhaps the infrared thermometer is the best because it can be used in other parts like the generator or the batteries.
Craig, the thermostat does two things. Open the outlet towards the heat exchanger and closes the pathway for recirculation. Removing the thermostat opens the outlet to the heat exchanger but leaves the path for recirculation open. Yes this should reduce the temperature in the sensor but may still leave the engine hotter by allowing recirculation. It is a good temporary solution when you have no spare thermostat. Unfortunately, Bonaire is full and they are not allowing any more boats. Now is even worse since Curaçao has developed a second wave of Covid19. Onle 32 cases but still increasing. We are awaiting for Cartagena to open but that may be more than a month away. Still, I hope our paths will cross soon. Jose Venegas Ipanema SM 2K 278 Seru Boca Marina, Curaçai |
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hello thank you sharing your expériences, ans for yourvideos too... i see lifepo4 battery 12v 100a straight from China 350 to 500 euros. https://m.fr.aliexpress.com/item/33035357191.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.7d5229a0oXm49j any opinion, experience.... best, Philippe Belloir +33 781 709 791 -------- Message d'origine -------- De : Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...> Date : 05/09/2020 05:27 (GMT+01:00) À : main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Objet : [AmelYachtOwners] Batteries starting to get weak - MMM - What to do - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcWBiDnB794 I think this has a lot of good information about the LiFePO4 batteries, and the systems on a SM. I bought the Victron AGM batteries (8x110AH 12V) 3 1/2 years ago, and they were starting to get tired. When new I had 440AH at 24V, thus about 220AH of usable. After 3.5 years of sailing, and using the bow thruster, and picking up the anchor all without the Genset running, my batteries were giving me about 110AH of usable power. Every morning I was getting closer and closer to 24.6V, and hit it a few times. Being in Thailand, I could not expect BattleBorn to be competitive with no one in Thailand, so I started doing research. I am currently doing a video about the batteries I ended up with, and should release it next week. But, I found that in Thailand I was able to get a custom made LiFePO4 battery 24V 300AH for about $1800. I bought 2, and made them sized so that 3 will fit in the SM. That means you could get 3 batteries for slightly more than I paid for Victron AGMs and you would have 900AH at 24V. This was a game changer - I can run the AC with my 600AH battery pack for 3 hours a night without running the Genset. I will release the video next week. But this was a game changer! Ken Powers Aquarius SM2K 262 |
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Re: Super Maramu Ballooner halyard hook
Germain Jean-Pierre
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I agree with you Ken. :-) Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, NZ On 5 Sep 2020, at 15:34, Bryce Procter via groups.io <Balibryce@...> wrote:
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Re: Super Maramu Ballooner halyard hook
Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
Hello Bryce,
Too bad you can't get back to SM Seamaster II. Just heard that Malaysia is closed until "at the earliest" December 31st. Hope this changes, but that was the latest today. There are several boats in Thailand trying to get down to Malaysia, but as you know the boarders are all closed. A friend left Thailand 10 days ago headed to Australia. He got permission to stop for fuel in Malaysia, and in Indonesia. They stopped in Langkawi where they got fuel (30% cheaper than fuel in Thailand) also also arranged to pick up some Alcohol, and a SIM card for data while sailing near Malaysia. Next stop was Belitung Indonesia, where they got fuel (slightly overpriced) and arranged to get some fresh veggies and a SIM card for data while sailing through Indonesia. They may, or may not stop in Lombok, where Ray (Owner of Marina Del Ray) sez ALL boat welcome to stop and stay out of the weather!!! Then when they get to Australia they may have to to the 14 day Q! Marinas in Phuket - Ao Po - Expensive ( About $75US per night for a SM). Plus Elec, and Water. Nice facilities, but not really the place to get your boat serviced) Yacht Haven - Expensive (About $75US per night for a SM). Plus Elec, and Water. Nice facilities). We got some work done here - but was not happy with the work done by an American "electrician?". There are some good trades here, but found most trades to be expensive. They do have a good person to do upholstery here. This is also far from most of the places that sell boat parts. You will have to rent a car 800 B per day, which is a great deal. Phuket Boat Lagoon - VERY EXPENSIVE If you have to ask the price, you don't want to be here. But, they have all the shops for Marine Equipment here. Most of the services are based here. But, over priced! There is also a Marina in Chalong Pier - Don't know the price, but kind of a dump. Should just anchor off the pier when you arrive, and dinghy into the Marina to check in to Thailand. Depending on the weather when you arrive, anchor off the small island Ko Lon, or Next to Cloud 19 Panwa and just a short Dinghy ride to the pier. Then, don't go to a marina unless you have to. Anchor off Yacht Haven and meet up with everyone!!! Krabi Downtown Marina - This is the Budget Marina - If you need a marina, and you want to be next to a small town, this is it. Cheap (about$25 per night), but it's a dump of a marina!!! If you are going to be there for more than 7 nights, better to pay the 5000 baht to become a member. 50% off..... Power is expensive without the 50% off! Krabi Boat Lagoon - This is where I am now. We are getting the bottom completely sanded to Gel Coat, keel down to metal, 2 coats of epoxy barrier coat for the fiberglass, 2 coats of epoxy coat for the metal keel, 2 coats of epoxy primer, 3 coats of ablative antifoul. Also, they are going to re-coat my boot stripe with Gel Coat, not paint. Also, getting the Rub Rail re-gel-coated. Including some other Gel Coat on the hull to make it look new. This will all cost about $5500. I have found this to be a nice place, but out of the way. Cost right not is reasonable because of a 40% discount due to Covid. About $30 per night... There are a few other marinas, but these are the ones that I know. If you have any questions, let me know! If you have whatsApp - call me +1 six one9, two18, one7Five three. |
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Volvo D3 intercooler
Yesterday I discovered a pin hole in the intercooler.
That is it was blowing out air from this tiny hole, to be clear the turbo blows hot compressed air through the intercooler to cool it on its way to combustion. The intercooler is located just below the secondary fuel filter on the starboard side of the engine as mounted in the Amel 54. I increased rpm to get boost pressure and then it really hissed out. The intercooler is cast aluminium, so I have temporarily fixed it with some epoxy weld. I tested it this morning but to only 0.2 bar on the boost pressure so about 1600 rpm and it held. The engine is Volvo D3 110i-A I am after the replacement part number 888513. Does anyone have one to sell? Has anyone experienced this before? Is this a common problem? Does anyone know how potentially serious this problem could be? The turbo is very much a double edged sword, a naturally aspirated engine is just so less complex and costly...if I ever repower Nick Amelia About to haul out Leros AML 54-019 |
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Re: Water maker Questions
Mark Barter
This is a really useful thread.
I have no idea when the water maker was last used but my guess is months and months before we bought the boat. Due to various issues including Covid we were then away from the boat for months. I didn’t know about pickling and regular flushing at that stage so it’s hardly surprising that the water maker isn’t working properly.
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Hi Ken,
From what I can gather you are still in Thailand and on possibly in Port Takola Marina Krabi.
My SM is currently laying in Pangkor Marina and I'm stuck in Perth Australia waiting for the borders to reopen. I'm planning on dropping the masts for repainting while replacing the standing rigging and electronics either in Malaysia or heading to Phuket/Krabi. Do you have any thoughts or recommendations on marinas and services in the area?
Cheers
Bryce
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Ken Powers SV Aquarius <ken@...>
I am currently stuck in Thailand, and as many of you know Zivile and I have a YouTube channel about our circumnavigation. Sailing Aquarius. Over a Year ago I did a video about batteries, and the video made the case for buying LiFePO4 batteries.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcWBiDnB794 I think this has a lot of good information about the LiFePO4 batteries, and the systems on a SM. I bought the Victron AGM batteries (8x110AH 12V) 3 1/2 years ago, and they were starting to get tired. When new I had 440AH at 24V, thus about 220AH of usable. After 3.5 years of sailing, and using the bow thruster, and picking up the anchor all without the Genset running, my batteries were giving me about 110AH of usable power. Every morning I was getting closer and closer to 24.6V, and hit it a few times. Being in Thailand, I could not expect BattleBorn to be competitive with no one in Thailand, so I started doing research. I am currently doing a video about the batteries I ended up with, and should release it next week. But, I found that in Thailand I was able to get a custom made LiFePO4 battery 24V 300AH for about $1800. I bought 2, and made them sized so that 3 will fit in the SM. That means you could get 3 batteries for slightly more than I paid for Victron AGMs and you would have 900AH at 24V. This was a game changer - I can run the AC with my 600AH battery pack for 3 hours a night without running the Genset. I will release the video next week. But this was a game changer! Ken Powers Aquarius SM2K 262 |
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