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Re: SM Turnbuckle
John Clark
While this is a tad late to the discussion, yes the ACMO turnbuckles are chrome plated bronze....and that chrome plating is my concern. I had Caribe Greement in Martinique replace Annie's rigging in 2017. Shortly afterward the chrome on the turnbuckles began to look weathered even though we rinsed them and kept them clean. Here is a picture of the main mast backstay turnbuckle, the one in the cockpit. This one is out of the weather and the chrome is pretty much done. Has anyone else had this issue?
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Whole Boat Permanent Inverter for 220VAC 50Hz
There have been a couple of recent discussions about getting 220V aboard while plugged in to U.S. (North American) shore power and some of the considerations between the 50Hz/60Hz difference. While we've enjoyed Adagio's collection of adapters which allow easy connection to shore power pretty much anywhere, the 50Hz/60Hz consideration has been on my "list" for some time now.
I have been thinking over providing inverter power to the whole boat on a permanent basis and was wondering if anyone else has done this or considered it. It would mean installation of a large inverter (perhaps 4,000 watts, pure sine wave) and using that output exclusively to the boat's power input switchover box (where the shore power comes in now). The shore power would come aboard and run to the batter charger and nothing else. (The Genset and "magic switch" cutover would be the same).
So, then we would have 220VAC at 50Hz regardless of the situation of the shore power .. it would be a kind of power conditioner as well, smoothing the voltage and frequency if the shore power is shaky. I do see an advantage to this, as the battery charger can accept a wider range of voltage/Hz variance than the appliances.
The obvious downside is that the whole boat would be essentially powered by the battery bank. Shore power would come only to the battery charger, then get converted to 24VDC and then get inverted back to house power at 220VAC 50Hz. This is obviously less efficient and presents a potential additional battery drain should the Inverter be left on while underway .. although .. with wind and solar providing some power, the use of a 220VAC 50Hz appliance without the need to run the Generator could be a good advantage..
Oh, my .. it's quite a dilemma :)
Any thoughts on the idea?
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Zink Anode for SPURS Line Cutter
Dear Amelias
I suppose that the AMEL-Bonding will protect Line cutter without Zink-Anodes as well as the prop, and I don’t need to install. What is the Forums experience and opinion about my question? I am correct?
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Re: Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?
Thomas, There were 2 sets of Delrin bearings 1st set just under the bottom cap and the other in the top. My furler took 2 hands and great force to turn. Just like in the Delos video. If you look at the one picture you can see the place where the Delrin bushings in the cranking shaft with the gear, has eroded and that is where all of the stiffness is coming from. I can only say that the 2 holes in my furler bottom go all the way through. I intend to make a start to finish video of this. It was incredibly simple and now the furler moves like new. Cheers, Randall On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 7:21 PM Sv Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:
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Re: water pressure regulator adjustment
Rink De Haan
The original amfa 66b inox is still available. I just remplaced the Marco pump I bought earlier and was not satisfied with, again with the original Alfa pump. So no worries.
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Van: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> namens Ryan Meador <ryan.d.meador@...>
Verzonden: Friday, May 15, 2020 10:14:05 PM Aan: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io> Onderwerp: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] water pressure regulator adjustment I gave the screw 1.5 turns in the "+" direction and our water pressure is now better than ever.
We still have the original AMFA pump, so the regulator probably makes a big difference. When the pump dies, I'll probably replace a bunch of the fresh water system, but I'm going to keep it Amel-original as long as possible.
Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:29 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Re: Canvas
Paul Stascavage
Courtney
We had our whole Bimini replaced last November/December by topstitch. They did a good job. What is your email address and phone number? I will try to get them to reach out to you. All the Best, Paul Stascavage S/V Rita Kathryn SM #466 RitaKathryn.com Currently Cruising Bahamas |
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Re: SM2K Genoa Jib Cart ANTAL 624.492/C Order pending in the US
#replacement
#spares
#order
Ryan Meador
The "other amel owner" is likely us. We ordered them from Euro Marine Trading about 2 weeks ago and delivery is expected in another week or so. That's the same price we were quoted. We're getting new genoa blocks as well (part 01201, $399/ea). Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration Boston, MA, USA On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:19 PM Michael & Robyn <SY_RIPPLE@...> wrote: Greetings! |
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SM2K Genoa Jib Cart ANTAL 624.492/C Order pending in the US
#replacement
#spares
#order
Michael & Robyn
Greetings!
We are about to order spare ANTAL Genoa Jib Cart 624.492/C it is a custom build version of http://www.antal.it/eng/624-492_en We hear another AMEL owner is having an order pending too and we will get a good price approx. $360 per cart. Anybody else interested to join the order? -- Michael & Robyn SY RIPPLE SM2K # 417 |
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Re: water pressure regulator adjustment
Ryan Meador
I gave the screw 1.5 turns in the "+" direction and our water pressure is now better than ever. We still have the original AMFA pump, so the regulator probably makes a big difference. When the pump dies, I'll probably replace a bunch of the fresh water system, but I'm going to keep it Amel-original as long as possible. Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration Boston, MA, USA On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 4:29 PM CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
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Upcoming Event: Zoom Meeting Presentation of the Amel 50 from La Rochelle - Sat, 05/16/2020 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP
#cal-reminder
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <main@...>
Reminder: Zoom Meeting Presentation of the Amel 50 from La Rochelle When: Saturday, 16 May 2020, 20:00 to 21:00, (GMT+00:00) UTC Where:From La Rochelle, France aboard Amel 50 SPEED OF LIFE An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP Description: Group members Matt & Cindy Salatino will present their brand new Amel 50 #27 "Speed of Life" from the Amel pontoon in La Rochelle. Matt and Cindy will give us a virtual tour during this presentation and answer your questions at the end of the presentation. Tilo Peters will administer the ZOOM meeting and I suspect that things will run smoothly and be enjoyed by all attending. If you cannot use ZOOM (highly recommended that you try), Tilo set up a YouTube Live stream: https://youtu.be/Ffks9eEkGG4. The YouTube Live stream will likely be a bit off, as it seems to show my control view and not the speaker view that is normally transmitted via Zoom. Tilo will also record our meeting on YouTube which will be available 48-72 hours after the meeting. He will notify you when it is available. Direct link to Join the 16 May at 20:00 UTC - ZOOM Meeting https://epfl.zoom.us/j
Meeting ID: 985 2356 8530
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If you missed our first ZOOM meeting, you can view it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/
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Re: European SM 240V looking to plug in 240V US Marina
Ryan Meador
On our boat, we did mostly as Eric says, but connected blue to red and brown to black. Since both of these wires are hot (120V with respect to ground, 240V with respect to each other), I don't think it matters which way you connect these two while on USA power. If the boat or appliances aren't able to handle it, it will be dangerous either way. Luckily, a stock Amel can handle it. Being a USA-based boat, we have the USA 50A male connector on the end of our power cord. When we were cruising in areas with European power, I built an adapter with a USA 50A female on one end and a European 32A male on the other (you have to plan ahead for this; I don't think any store on earth sells both connectors, not even in St Martin). That way I can just plug it in and not have to rewire the connector every time we go to a different island. You may want to consider something similar, except reversing the genders to preserve your European plug on the shore power cord. We also had our shore power cord upgraded to handle 32A while we were in Le Marin. The stock power cord is rated for 16A, I believe, despite the main breaker being rated for 32A (you can get the full 32A from the generator, but not from shore). When you're adding the breaker in the aft locker (highly recommended), you want to size it for the rating of your cord, not the main breaker. Even better would be adding the breaker inline in the adapter so it protects the entire length of the cord, but that seems harder to implement. Ryan and Kelly
SM 233 Iteration Boston, MA, USA On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:01 PM Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL via groups.io <sangaris=aol.com@groups.io> wrote: and, of course, do note that you will be getting US 60 Hz, not European 50 Hz. |
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Re: Hot Water Heater Power Consumption
Stephen Davis
Good idea. It’s been 5 years since replacement, so would not be surprised if the element is toast.
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Re: Hot Water Heater Power Consumption
Stephen Davis
Thanks Bill...looks like an engine room day!
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Re: Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?
Sv Garulfo
Thanks Randall, I will attempt to watch the video but I doubt the bandwidth here will allow that... Further to Mohammad’s question, did you find a bearing inside or delrin balls like Gary described? As far as I can see through the horizontal shaft opening, there is a vertical element (consistent with the diagram in Gary’s document) that is supposed to be on a set of derlin balls at the bottom of the housing, but mine does not rotate at all. Clearly the gearing housing is not waterproof and without drains it will inevitably fill with dirt and water up to the attachment bolts. The bushing is then halfway soaked in that and the aluminium/stainless steel interface between the gearshaft and the winch handle socket attachment will corrode. The oxidation on the aluminium shaft will slowlly increase the friction to the bushing. The gears are moving freely otherwise. So, drill for drain or not? Thanks Thomas GARULFO A54-122 Tahuata, French Polynesia On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 10:11, Randall <sailingalbedo@...> wrote:
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Canvas
Hi all while I’m holed up in Brunswick it’s time for me to have the soft part of my dodger remade any suggestions of someone who does good canvas work in the area I have tried in vain to get a hold of topstitch out of Jacksonville so someone knows somebody local that’s good I would appreciate the info
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Re: Mainsail manual furler lubricant
Hey Kent and Iris - welcome back to America!
As Robbie Burns wrote, "The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men Gang aft agley" - sounds like you're one of many with cruising plans changed due to C-19. Hopefully you'll be able to get out there in the not-too-distant future. Regarding your furler gearboxes, there's a thread from 2016 you can search for more discussion, but Bonfiglioli ships their's with Shell Tivela S320 and calls it "lifetime" lubrication, with a 25,000 hour life. There are many equivalent Industrial Synthetic gear oils out there that a google search will bring up. That being said, our application with infrequent short duration use really doesn't demand the hi-tech oil. Perhaps more importantly, the harsh environment with risk of sea water intrusion past the lip seals may argue for the addition of Zerk fittings enabling frequent greasing that many of us have done. That you've had years with no water intrusion is great so you may want to choose to continue as is - no "right" answer. Cheers, Craig - if the Covid subsides we may scoot up your way - will let you know. |
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Re: Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?
Mohammad Shirloo
Thank you Randall for the detailed explanation.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Randall via groups.io
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2020 3:28 AM To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Mizzen furler gearbox, A54 peculiarity?
Hello Mohammad and Aty,
Were you able to simply untwist the bottom cap of the furler assembly with the tool you sketched Unbolt the furler from the foil, I used the uphaul to raise the foil enough to clear furler. Remove 2 bolts that hold furler to the mast. Then you will need a sturdy vice and a form of wrap to protect the aluminium casing from the vice teeth.
First loosen the bottom, counter clockwise. Just a turn or two. Then remove the cranking shaft, (keeping the cracking shaft in the furler, while loosening in the bottom, just helps hold the furler while loosening the bottom.) Then finish removing the bottom. Caution first set of bearings are under the bottom cap.
The tool I showed was a square metal bar with two holes. The holes are the same spacing as the furler holes. The drill bits are the same size and simply use the bottom of the drill bits through the bar, and that will give you the ability to undo the end cap counter clockwise, and still have the two drill bits for future use.
All that was required was to clean everything inside? Were you able to reuse the bearing? The bearings are dry, the same as in your travelers. I simply cleaned them and put them back in, no grease. They were very coated in salt, but not damaged. The main issue was the Delrin/plastic inserts for the crank. After very carefully removing the Delrin, I cleaned and as I recall used some lithium grease on the gear shaft. If I had to guess, the grease may not have been needed.
Any other parts or lubrications needed? If the mizzen is only stiff this can be done in a short time. I have attached the problem area picture and one from Bill Rouse showing the Delrin. I believe this is from his book, showing the Delrin pieces, there are two. Also the holes in my furlers bottom did go straight through to give drainage as you can see in the teardown picture. The hole project should only be time and some white grease. Reassembly had only one puzzle ring moment! When you go to put the upper bearings in, push the internal mechanism in to a point you can just fit the upper bearings in then the rest will be easy.
Hope that helps, Randall
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Mainsail manual furler lubricant
Hi all,
I hope everyone is staying healthy and enjoying where ever you are locked down. Iris and I were headed to Panama when everything shut down. After 2 weeks in Antigua and no end in sight, we sailed back to St Michaels, MD. We had to heave-to 3 times to wait for fronts to pass with 30+ kt N winds before we could get across the Gulf Stream. 17-day passage, counting hove-to time. We are home again and I am working on some previously neglected items. I've removed the manual furler from the main sail foil to find the foil's circumference about 30% eroded by the bolt. Thanks for the heads-up on that issue. The gearbox was a little stiff, so I've disassembled it for cleaning and replacing the seals. Pat (Shenanigans) did a nice write-up which Bill R has reproduced in his book. Thanks! After 20 years, the gearbox was in great shape with no water intrusion, and no leakage of lubricant out of the gearbox. It was full of a lubricant that is much thinner than grease, but thicket than motor oil. Does anyone know what lubricant was used? Thanks for any insight. Kent and Iris Kristy SM 243 |
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Need everyone's help
Please read this, but it is not necessary to respond.
We have a small problem that can be a big problem if you happen to be cruising the world and have limited bandwidth. Some of our members are cruising the world with limited bandwidth and choose the "digest version" to receive all postings. The digest version allows them to browse the SUBJECT/TOPIC of postings, then download that posting of interest. We all are guilty (me too) of not respecting the SUBJECT/TOPIC and posting a question or answer that has nothing to do with the actual SUBJECT/TOPIC. The Moderators and I have the tools to SPLIT the SUBJECT/TOPIC, but we are not paying attention (me included). I am asking everyone to please help those that are at distant places in the world with low bandwidths...a place that I wish I was NOW! Please respect the SUBJECT/TOPIC. if you read a posting and it reminds you to ask about something different, simply compose a new email from your registered email address To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io with the appropriate SUBJECT/TOPIC...it is that easy. And, Moderators, help me with this one. -- |
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Re: Hot Water Heater Power Consumption
Thomas Kleman
Hey neighbor- before replacing it I would take the heating element out, clean the contact points and check the wiring connections (assume it's a Basic 40, so pretty easy). You'll see immediately if it can be saved. Mine had a similar symptom.
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