new amel
kimberlite1212...
hi,<br>if you ordered a maramu when would your delivery date be <br>fair winds<br>eric
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Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals,
kimberlite1212...
hi,<br>i am located in huntington and would love to talk to you about your amel.<br>please call/ e-mail me<br>thanks<br>eric freedman<br>631-423-2000<br>kimberlt@optonline.net
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Re: Crash Bar In Front of Galley Stove
kimberlite1212...
charlie,<br>did you install the chartplotter system after you took delivery of your boat?<br>thanks<br>eric
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michael glass
kimberlite1212...
michael,<br>i see tht you live in melville.<br>i
live in huntington.<br>i would love to discuss the maramu with you.<br>please call or e-mail me.<br>thanks<br>eric freedman<br>631-423-2000<br>kimberlt@optonline.net
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Re: tips on buying a new Amel
pagandaisy...
I bought my Super Maramu 7 years ago and been
sailing her in the Caribbean ever since. I've never had a regret she's a wonderful boat. If you like, I can e-mail you my experience purchasing the boat, extras, etc. and modifications I've made over the years. I know Amel makes changes continuously and suspect some of my extras no longer are. I'll give you both my e-mail and phone number, if you just want to talk.<br>Pagan-daisy@att.net<br>Phone 858-756-1377<br><br>Arnold Grubin
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Re: tips on buying a new Amel
amelliahona...
1-25-2002 Hi Mark. My name is Gary Silver. I
ordered an Amel Super Maramu on my 50th birthday (May 2000). There was a 13 month lead time at that point and we took delivery July of 2001). We just completed our sail across the Atlantic to Guadeloupe. We sailed from La Rochelle to the Canaries in July 2001. Joel Potter has been great. He is honest, forthright, and you can take his word to the bank. Our only trouble with the purchase process was that the financing broker recommended by Joel had his main bank go bankrupt three weeks before we closed. Our financing plans which had been in place for over a year were suddenly non-existent. Joel and the Offshore Financial broker did their best to help but I can attest that there wasn't another financial institution in this country who ususally finances offshore boats that would then touch this project, I called each one personally. Thank heavens I had a personal relationship with my own banker who came throught with financing in short order for me. The Amel SM is a marvelous boat, extremely well thought out and a pleasure to sail. The Amel factory, service and warranty people are superb. Make sure you take a factory tour while your boat is being built (or anytime), it will really confirm in your mind the quality of the boat and the organization and people you are dealing with. Jean Jacques (the head guy or big cheese) and Olivier in the La Rochelle warranty facility are<br>superb. The one week owner shool is invaluable. Equipment suggestions: hand grab rails on the stern, get the optional hand grab rail on the setee table, I am currently looking into getting additional hand grab rails in each of the showers (when you are trying to shower while at sea there isn't anything to hold onto in the head because the shower curtain is drawn around), I am also seeing what I can do to get extra grab rails on the ceiling of the main aft cabin and forward cabin, look into having the B & G, GPS, and autopilot interfaced to each other (I did it myself after the fact and it was a pain), get the crash bar in front of the stove (the lack of this as a standard feature is the only really safety related fault that I have found), get the extra fans and fan outlets (in fact I wish I had gotten<br>more fans, 10 instead of 6) for when you don't want to run the AC, Joel will guide you wisely on the other available options, trust his experience. If you are having extra electronics installed that require cabinetry modifcation have the Amel yard do the work as it is built. I am currently looking into some cabinetry work due to extra electronics and the Amel woodwork is so beautiful I wish I would have had it done initially. No boat is perfect but this one comes close. One last thought, get the fresh air ventilation system, it is essential when it is raining outside. In fact I would ask them if there is some way to plumb a vent from it into the quarter birth (the one to the starborad side of the engine compartment), ventilation there is the least satisfactory in the entire boat and there is no AC there. <br>Hope this helps. Sincerely, Gary PS if you want to talk please feel free to call me at 801-451-0499 (evenings are best)
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Re: tips on buying a new Amel
rbenven44...
Hi,<br>I agree with everything Gary just wrote
about the Amel experience and the boat. We bought our first Amel in 1983, a Maramu, and in 1996 didn't even consider another boat when we bought our Super Maramu. We added a lot of options to our SM, and almost all of them are now standard. A couple of thoughts to add to Gary's: Add hot water to the cockpit shower (if it isn't already standard), add a Racor filter to the fuel line to the engine and generator (again it may be standard by now). And buy your life raft and dinghy in France -- they're half the price of the same models in the US (as long as you buy European models such as Zodiac, Avon, or Novurania, etc.)<br>Good luck, and enjoy your Amel!<br>Roy Benveniste<br>SM "Excalibur" #195
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Re: tips on buying a new Amel
kimberlite1212...
roy,<br>did you stick with the stock electronics?<br>any upogrades?<br>anything else i should order that is not quite standard?<br>thanks<br>eric
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Re: French Boat, Great; French Manuals,
kimberlite1212...
bob & mina.<br>i would to speak to you about your amel, and suggested upgrades.<br>i am also in long island<br>phone<br>631-423-2000<br>e-mail kimberlt@optonline.net<br>thanks<br>eric
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Re: Its Great to have a forum
kimberlite1212...
hi,<br>we are under contract for a maramu and live on ling islans.<br>i would love to speak to you about the baot.<br>thanks<br>eric<br>kimberlt@optonline.net
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Re: Interfacing B&G GPS & Autopilot
svsilvercloud2001...
Hi Gary,<br>I'm John McDougall & I have SM330,
new in May 2001 & now in S.France. I'm interested in interfacing the B&G with the GPS & autopilot as you mentioned but am not sure how to proceed. Is it something you can explain easily? If it is very complicated I probably won't try but I would appreciate any info. <br>I agree with all your positive comments about the SM - it really is a delight! (But the standard electric heating is not good enough for the Mediterranean in Winter as Amel suggest).
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Re: Interfacing B&G GPS & Autopilot
petervweston...
One other issue on my SM (#248)is that the
fluxgate compass is an Autohelm. In order to interface the GPS, B&G instruments and the fluxgate with my navigation software (laptop running "The Capn") I installed a Noland Multiplexer. I bought mine at Bluewater in, I think, Fort Laudadale. The multiplexer can take up to 4 NMEA signals and convert them to a RS232 signal which one puts into the serial port of the laptop. If anyone would like to know how to read the NMEA sentences to confirm that the signals are coming through feel free to write to me SOON as we take off for BVI in just over a week and I may be off line!<br><br>Regards<br><br>Peter
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Keel Bolts on L'Euros
seamenseaman...
My first message - I would like to know how the
keel bolts can be inspected on the Euros - they are well buried and the water tank in the keel would seem to make this difficult?? All help gratefully accepted! <br>We sail in Devon, England and across to France in the Summer come and see us...
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Re: new amel
markmpitt...
October 2003. I understand you are getting a new Maramu too. When would that be?<br><br>Mark
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Genset heatexchanger
ianandjudyjenkins...
How nice to find this website! We are previous
owners of a Maramu and a Sharki and bought an SM 2000, no. 302 . She is in England at the moment but we set off in May for a few years. Absolutely delighted with her. Two small problems which we would be interested to hear from anyone else from <br> 1. The heatexchanger on the Onan weeps very slowly and produces a coating of white crystals. Onan replaced the first one, assuming that there was a small fracture in the weld of the elbow fitting where the seawater pipe fits on . However the replacement is doing exactly the same thing. I had assumed that the crystals were either dried salt or the white paint being lifted off by seawater but neither seems to be the case. Iqueried whether it could be some form of electrolysis but the Onan guys in England say not. They believe that the Onan anode is unnecesary. They have been very attentive (the onan warranty lasts for some years) but sofar it's got them puzzled. We have about 200 hours use so far.<br> 2. Right from the start we have had a very small weep of gearbox oil from the forward end of the gearbox. Amel are going to replace the seal when we call in at La Rochelle in June, but I do Know of another SM 2000 which has not been able to cure a similar problem despite two new seals. They just now put up with it, placing some kitchen roll paper underneath and changing the paper every 50 hours or so. It seems almost a cosmetic point but like most people I don't like anything that leaks!<br> Good sailing and, once again, thanks to the guys who thought up this website<br> Ian and Judy Jenkins<br> Pen Azen
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Re: Interfacing B&G GPS & Autopilot
amelliahona...
2-4-2002 Hi John: Sorry to be so slow to repsond.
This theoretically should have been an easy project but it turned out to be harder than expected due to very poor documentation of the NMEA interface by Raytheon and B & G. A couple of warnings are in order. 1. Radio frequency interferance (RFI) evidently can cause the NMEA interface to glitch so careful routing of properly shielded and grounded wire is important. 2. Use twisted pair shielded high quality wire, avoid running it right next to the SSB or VHF antenna cables or other high current 24 vdc power wires, and ground the shield at only one end of the wire run (I grounded mine at the Hydra 2000 NMEA display cable). First the connections at the Raytheon autopilot computer. You are going to be feeding the NMEA heading information to the B & G so that the Hydra 2000 can calculate true wind. You use the "NMEA output" from the Raytheon computer (this is located in the cupboard above the sink, between the 220 VAC and 24 VDC circuit breaker panels and is mounted on the forward side of the cockpit bulkhead on which the helm wheel is mounted). The cover is removed by depressing two tabs on either side of the cover and sliding it downward. The wires should be tinned, the shield trimmed off and covered with heat shrink within about two inches of the terminal strip and they are inserted by pushing down on the tab and sliding the wire into the terminal hole. Just look at the other wires to get the direction of the hole. Route the wire towards the port side, then via the access tubes into the access area behind the analog B & G instruments via the sliding ceiling access panel in the kitchen. Use one of the the un-used conduits to thread the wire into the starboard quater-birth area. Then by removing a small piece of trim in the bookshelf area above the nav station hanging locker you can route the wire into the nav station area. Leave enough slack to allow the rack system to be removed easily. Attached is the info from the B & G technical support: DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE THE NMEA INPUT OUTPUT terminals on the Hydra processor (i.e. the B & G computer) Instead the NMEA connections must be made through a NMEA FFD on HYDRA systems.<br><br>B & G tech support states: The solution will be to locate your NMEA FFD, and connect the wires from<br>your Raytheon as follows:<br><br>Raytheon <br><br>NMEA Output (+) Brown<br>NMEA Output (-) Blue<br><br>NMEA FFD<br><br>NMEA Input (+) Violet<br>NMEA Input (-) Black<br>The wire shield is grounded by connecting to the other grounds at the hydra processor. <br><br>The above wires are from the cable coming from the Hydra 2000 display. You will find that they are capped. Just pigtail them together as indicated. <br><br>Best regards<br><br>Alan Titterington<br>Technical Support Group<br>B&G/YEOMAN<br>Tel: +44 (0)1794 510013<br>Fax: +44 (0)1794 518077<br>Mobile: 07740 543182<br>e-mail: alant@bandg.co.uk<br>www.BandG.com<br><br>Finally you must set the heading node on the Hydra 2000 display. This is described in the B & G manual. Basically you go into a configuration menue on the Hydra 2000 and set the heading node for NMEA (if I recall correctly it is node 96). Hope this helps. You can do additional interfaces but that gets a little more complicated. Sincerely, Gary
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Re: Genset heatexchanger
rbenven44...
Hello Ian & Judy,<br>I have SM #195, and have had
the oil drip from the gearbox/engine junction since day 1. I have been told that trying to fix it is not worth the effort, and may make it worse. So I wipe it up after every few days of motoring. Gives me an excuse to clean everything else down there and look for serious problems.<br>Roy
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Re: Genset heatexchanger
kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
are there any other things you would suggest a new amel owner should
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look out for? any special spares to order or options? eric
--- In amelyachtowners@y..., rbenven44 wrote:
Hello Ian & Judy,<br>I have SM #195, and have had
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Re: Spares and options
ianandjudyjenkins <no_reply@...>
--- Hi Eric,I don't know if I am answering your query in the
correct manner, but among the extras we had or are going to have fitted were the following: 1Water filter in the galley 2Holding tanks 3 Third halyard ( for a genniker) 4 Rope cutter on the prop shaft 5 Second autopilot 6Laptop shelf on the chart table 7Desalinator 8Scuba compressor and tank holder 9TV wiring to fore and aft cabins 10Bimini top, half cover and winter cover for the cockpit 11Crash bar for the galley 12Diesel heater 13Stainless handles on transom 14Larger Propane locker--2 X 13lb bottles 15Mizzen aerial for gsm phone 16 SSB radio ( I have since added an Iridium with outside aerial for which you would need a docking station--useful to fit at the outset if the choice appeals) 17CD storage rack in the aft cabin 18 2 shelves in the forward hanging locker 19Additional 220 volt outlets at the charttable , in the saloon and in the engine room 20 Additional 12 volt outlet to starboard of the companionway -- useful for charging a phone 21 12oo Watt inverter 22 Hot water for the cockpit shower 23Hella fans--I fitted 4 but I see someone else recommends many more! 24 Lock on the aft cabin door 25White bilges ( a pet gripe of mine--why do all boatbuilders paint their bilbes a dark colour? They cry out to be white so you can see that dropped nut, cockroach, mouse or whatever. To be fair , Amel do paint most of their bilges white but they extended the area for me ) 26Extra reading lights in the saloon ( provided by us). We like to read and find that as time passes we need brighter lights to do so comfortably. The lighting on the SM is very good , but even so it can be improved if you find the same sort of need that we have. 27 Twin Racor fuel filters with a crossover switch, fitted between the fuel tank and the engine. I have never had a fuel problem on my previous two Amels, but have used them only in Europe. Malcolm McLaren, who now has a SM ,organised a round the world rally and fitted these filters to his own boat ( then a Moody) and two others and those were the only three out of about 18 not to suffer from dirty fuel at some stage. I also copied his use of a coarse filter fitted upstream of the fuel tank 28 I am also fitting a Seame active radar responder to my Mizzen, following good reports from the latest Arc race. Had it been available at the time I would have had it fitted by Amel. 29 I am also a fan of the Spade anchor--it fits well. It is nothing to do with Amel, but Spade did deliver it direct to La Rochelle. I hope this list may be of some interest . I expect I have missed out a few items but Laurent Laborde, who gave us the usual wonderful Amel service , will have a full list. I don't think there's anything I'd change but Judy would have fitted the Corian worktop in the galley had we known about it, though our list of extras was somewhat straining the system as it was. I wouldn't claim that our list is in any way exhaustive: we always find it fascinating to see what other boats have which we have completely overlooked. ( though I might be tempted to look at a flat screen, DVD, Bluetooth etc if I were starting today.....). Am about to buy a genniker and would be interested to hear from anyone who already uses one--the 140 square metres suggested by Amel's sailmaker does seem huge. Ours will be somewhat more modest. Ian In amelyachtowners@y..., kimberlite1212 <no_reply@y...> wrote: are there any other things you would suggest a new amel ownershould look out for?
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Re: Spares and options
kimberlite1212 <no_reply@...>
dear ian and judy.
thank you for the very fine list. i was thinking of adding a radar transponder (responder) do you have a website for this maker (seame) ? thank you eric kimberlt@optonline.net --- In amelyachtowners@y..., ianandjudyjenkins <no_reply@y...> wrote: --- Hi Eric,I don't know if I am answering your query in thecan see that dropped nut, cockroach, mouse or whatever. To be fair ,Amel do paint most of their bilges white but they extended the area forto read and find that as time passes we need brighter lights to do socan be improved if you find the same sort of need that we have.problem on my previous two Amels, but have used them only in Europe.Malcolm McLaren, who now has a SM ,organised a round the world rally andMizzen, following good reports from the latest Arc race. Had it beenmissed out a few items but Laurent Laborde, who gave us the usualwonderful Amel service , will have a full list. I don't think there'sanything I'd change but Judy would have fitted the Corian worktop in thesomewhat straining the system as it was. I wouldn't claim that our list isin any way exhaustive: we always find it fascinating to see what othermodest. Ian
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