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Re: Researching low profile solar panels

JB Duler
 

Thanks for your email Greg!

I have a different set, as my main sail boom is ABOVE the arch.
I’ll check out Offgristech.

Here are some photos of my setup.

Best,

JB



On Sep 27, 2021, at 01:05, Gregory Shea <gmshea@...> wrote:


Hey JB, 
I have the same "in front of the mizzen" arrangement as you. The issue with that arrangement is that the width of the panels is constrained by the mizzen and the boom and/or topping lift. Finding panels with the correct geometry I found challenging. The only vendor that offered panels that would work for me was a German outfit, Offgridtech. 
They are not particularly cheap but their technolgy seems more than adequate, their quality is excellent, the performance works for me and their delivery is reliable. I have two of their semi-flexibles in front of the mizzen and two of their rigids on the rail. Flexibility was not something I really needed, geometry and weight were my primary drivers in choosing the semi-flexibles. 
You can order direct from them or via Amazon.de. In one instance I had them ship to Italy and this year to Greece. Spain should be a snap. Their website is a mix of German and English but you can figure it out if you find yourself in a German bit.
In case you are looking at new panels that are wider than the old ones, don't just check the clearance with the sail furled.  Lift the boom up to the "to-be" position of the new panels and make sure they clear. Everything may seem OK in the static position but when the boom raises, as the sail is deployed, the dynamic clearance may be much less than you thought. I put a new main on my boat this year and with the sail furled everything looked fine. However, the cut of the new sail was sufficiently different to the old one that the end of the boom, when sailing, was much higher than with my old sail. The first time I gybed, the boom hit the solar framework. An Amel boom hitting anything will put the fear of god in you. A gybing Amel boom even more so. The framework was immediately raised to clear.
Attached are some pics of an early version of my setup with my old main deployed.
<image1.jpeg><image2.jpeg>Good luck with the project.

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles
Kilada, Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of JB Duler <jbduler@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 3:20 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Researching low profile solar panels
 
Hello,

I have a unique setup, an arch in front of the mizzen mast where 19W flexible solar panels were installed maybe 20 years ago. They are dead.

  1. I want to explore low profile rigid panels (the boom swings above it) as I do not think I can fit normal panels with regular height.
    1. Any of you have had experience with low profile panels? I would prefer low profile panels instead of flexible panels (but if I find nothing I may revert to flexible panels).
    2. The dimensions of the arch are 245 cm * 51 cm
  2. I can install a rigid or flexible panel on the rigid dodger where I can fit 45 cm * 135 cm
  3. I am also exploring adding side panels mounted on the Swedish system we recently discussed (Thanks Danny and Greg for the tips!)
  4. Any brand or dealer you would recommend?

The boat is based near Barcelona. Where is a good source to get panels in Europe? I know where to go in the US but not in Europe.

Thanks again for the help,
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

 

Maybe that is the top seal of the motor, but I cannot tell the size. If the seal size is 45mmX65mmX8mm, it is for the top of the motor.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 12:37 PM Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
Hi Bill,

Number 5 is not V seal. V seal was supplied only one piece and I used it.
Attached more photos.

Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 # 157

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:48:18 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
 
Vladan,

The photo is too blurry for me to read. Is it possible that #5 is the V-Seal? 
image.png



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:16 AM Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
Hi Stefan,

I bought set of seals for main sail manual furler in March this year from Amel.

After replacing them all on main sail furler I remained with one seal that I don’t know what is for.

In attached photo you have all dimensions. Seal number 5 was extra in my case. 

If you need better photo or scan of document that came with seals let me know and I’ll send it to you.

Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 #157
Image.jpeg

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 21:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
 
Dear Amelians,

I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear.
I was in contact with Maud.  She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment).
The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.
Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.
 
So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,
as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).
 
Thanks a lot you for your help.
 
 Best regards
 Stefan
 A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi again Vladan. What is the size, You can read it off the seal. For example the one for the top of the gearbox is 60x45x7 if my memory serves me correctly.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 28 September 2021 at 06:36 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:

 
Hi Bill,

Number 5 is not V seal. V seal was supplied only one piece and I used it.
Attached more photos.

Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 # 157

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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:48:18 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
 
Vladan,

The photo is too blurry for me to read. Is it possible that #5 is the V-Seal? 
image.png

 


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:16 AM Vladan SV PAME < vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
 
 
Hi Stefan,

I bought set of seals for main sail manual furler in March this year from Amel.

After replacing them all on main sail furler I remained with one seal that I don’t know what is for.

In attached photo you have all dimensions. Seal number 5 was extra in my case. 

If you need better photo or scan of document that came with seals let me know and I’ll send it to you.

Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 #157
Image.jpeg

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 21:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
 
Dear Amelians,

I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear.
I was in contact with Maud.  She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment).
The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.
Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.
 
So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,
as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).
 
Thanks a lot you for your help.
 
 Best regards
 Stefan
 A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME

 

 


 


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


 


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Vladan, sorry I dont. Havent been there yet.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 27 September 2021 at 20:27 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:

Hi Danny,

 

I think you are referring to anti dust seal. That one I used and installed.

 

If I was not precise in my post, In Amel kit was supplied two number 5 seals and I used only one of them.

 

Don’t know how many seals are in mizen furler? Maybe that one goes there?

 

Best Regards,

 

Vladan – SV Pame

A54 #157

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 09:35
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

 

Hi Vladan. Having just serviced my main sail furler I suspect from your photo this mounts externally on the output shaft sitting down on the top of the housing. One caviat on that opinion is I was looking at the photo on the small screen of my phone 

Kind Regards 

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 27 September 2021 at 19:16 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Stefan,

 

I bought set of seals for main sail manual furler in March this year from Amel.

 

After replacing them all on main sail furler I remained with one seal that I don’t know what is for.

 

In attached photo you have all dimensions. Seal number 5 was extra in my case. 

 

If you need better photo or scan of document that came with seals let me know and I’ll send it to you.

 

Best Regards,

Vladan - SV Pame

A54 #157

Image.jpeg


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 21:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

 

Dear Amelians,


I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear.
I was in contact with Maud.  She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment).

The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.

Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.

 

So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,

as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).

 

Thanks a lot you for your help.

 

 Best regards

 Stefan

 A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands


 


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


 

 



 


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


 


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

Vladan SV PAME
 

Hi Bill,

Number 5 is not V seal. V seal was supplied only one piece and I used it.
Attached more photos.

Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 # 157

Image.jpegImage.jpegImage.jpeg


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:48:18 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
 
Vladan,

The photo is too blurry for me to read. Is it possible that #5 is the V-Seal? 
image.png



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:16 AM Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
Hi Stefan,

I bought set of seals for main sail manual furler in March this year from Amel.

After replacing them all on main sail furler I remained with one seal that I don’t know what is for.

In attached photo you have all dimensions. Seal number 5 was extra in my case. 

If you need better photo or scan of document that came with seals let me know and I’ll send it to you.

Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 #157
Image.jpeg

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 21:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
 
Dear Amelians,

I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear.
I was in contact with Maud.  She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment).
The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.
Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.
 
So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,
as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).
 
Thanks a lot you for your help.
 
 Best regards
 Stefan
 A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


Opacmare - replacing sensor

Vladan SV PAME
 

Hi group,

I need to replace on of two sensors that control up and down position of pasarella. I managed to unscrew it from the bracket.

Does anyone know where sensor cable ends? As far as I can see cable goes under wooden board of rotating part. Do I need to take off that piece of wood and how to do it?

Thanks in advance.

Best Regards,
--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

 

Vladan,

The photo is too blurry for me to read. Is it possible that #5 is the V-Seal? 
image.png



CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 1:16 AM Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:
Hi Stefan,

I bought set of seals for main sail manual furler in March this year from Amel.

After replacing them all on main sail furler I remained with one seal that I don’t know what is for.

In attached photo you have all dimensions. Seal number 5 was extra in my case. 

If you need better photo or scan of document that came with seals let me know and I’ll send it to you.

Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 #157
Image.jpeg

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 21:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
 
Dear Amelians,

I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear.
I was in contact with Maud.  She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment).
The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.
Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.
 
So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,
as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).
 
Thanks a lot you for your help.
 
 Best regards
 Stefan
 A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

amelforme
 

Hello Lior. I used to own Amel 54 # 14, 2006 model. Very shortly after I sailed the boat here to Florida, the 9000 BTU Climma air conditioner in the aft cabin had a compressor failure. I removed the failed unit and installed a complete duplicate Climma 9000 BTU unit including the thermostat/fan speed controller. It was a difficult process as I believe Amel might have first installed the air conditioner and then installed the furniture/cabinetry around it . I can’t recall it all in detail today, but I had to remove several of the ancillary components from both the failed unit and its replacement to remove and then reinstall the air conditioner. It is a very tight installation. I would measure every dimension extremely carefully if you replace this unit with another brand. Anything larger will not fit.

 

Although Amel would usually evolve a difficult installation to make it more ‘worker friendly’ and to reduce man hours, your hull # 18 is close enough to my #14 that I’d be comfortable saying their installations are probably the same.

 

This is not to say the replacement process is an ordeal, it is just difficult as much of it is done by feel and not sight. I was well trained for this by the Sunbeam Tiger I owned in high school during the  very early 1970’s. I rebuilt the engine with high performance components and installed exhaust headers. Installing spark plugs on this shoe horned engine was difficult in stock configuration. The exhaust headers increased the degree of difficulty several times over. Strictly by feel, it took me five hours to replace eight spark plugs every 5,000 miles or so. The experience came in handy changing the Climma unit. Good luck with it and I hope Amel gave you a bit more room to work with.

 

All the best,

Joel

 

           JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C.

                                         The Experienced AMEL Guy

UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE

                                  Office 954-462-5869  Cell 954-812-2485

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dimitris Krasopoulos
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 7:53 AM
To: main@amelyachtowners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

 

Have a look in the webasto it is same size and it seems to me more modern design. I have replaced the cockpit Aircondition with a webasto 12000

 

Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 

Mob Phone +306944302318

 



On Sep 27, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Lior Keydar <lior246@...> wrote:

Dear all, 

Thank you very much for the feedback.
The Pump worked as I started the AC but it became very hot and the compressor made a very strange noise. I am quite sure that this unit is in its ELF.

I am thinking to order the same new CLIMMA 9000. It is possible to find it on the market. Did anyone replace the AC on A54? Does anyone has a better recommendation for other AC unit that fit in place?

Thanks a lot for your help
Lior SHARONA, A54 #18 


Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Dominique Sery
 

Hello Lior, I replaced 2 air conditioning units on my 54, the saloon one (12,000 BTU) and the rear cabin one (9,000 BTU).  The new 9000 model (Climma) for the rear cabin is identical to the old one in terms of dimensions (new electronics).  The new model 12000 (Climma) for the saloon is a little higher than the old one and requires adaptation.  I did the installation myself.  I bought the air conditioning directly from the KOK importer in Grasse (near Cannes in France).
Regards
Dominique
Irko 1 A54#16


Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Dimitris Krasopoulos
 

Have a look in the webasto it is same size and it seems to me more modern design. I have replaced the cockpit Aircondition with a webasto 12000


Στάλθηκε από το iPhone of Dimitris Krasopoulos 
Mob Phone +306944302318


On Sep 27, 2021, at 12:34 PM, Lior Keydar <lior246@...> wrote:

Dear all, 

Thank you very much for the feedback.
The Pump worked as I started the AC but it became very hot and the compressor made a very strange noise. I am quite sure that this unit is in its ELF.

I am thinking to order the same new CLIMMA 9000. It is possible to find it on the market. Did anyone replace the AC on A54? Does anyone has a better recommendation for other AC unit that fit in place?

Thanks a lot for your help
Lior SHARONA, A54 #18 


Re: Air in the cooling system of CLIMMA Aircon

Lior Keydar
 

Dear all, 

Thank you very much for the feedback.
The Pump worked as I started the AC but it became very hot and the compressor made a very strange noise. I am quite sure that this unit is in its ELF.

I am thinking to order the same new CLIMMA 9000. It is possible to find it on the market. Did anyone replace the AC on A54? Does anyone has a better recommendation for other AC unit that fit in place?

Thanks a lot for your help
Lior SHARONA, A54 #18 


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

Vladan SV PAME
 

Hi Danny,

 

I think you are referring to anti dust seal. That one I used and installed.

 

If I was not precise in my post, In Amel kit was supplied two number 5 seals and I used only one of them.

 

Don’t know how many seals are in mizen furler? Maybe that one goes there?

 

Best Regards,

 

Vladan – SV Pame

A54 #157

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 09:35
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

 

Hi Vladan. Having just serviced my main sail furler I suspect from your photo this mounts externally on the output shaft sitting down on the top of the housing. One caviat on that opinion is I was looking at the photo on the small screen of my phone 

Kind Regards 

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 27 September 2021 at 19:16 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:

 

 

Hi Stefan,

 

I bought set of seals for main sail manual furler in March this year from Amel.

 

After replacing them all on main sail furler I remained with one seal that I don’t know what is for.

 

In attached photo you have all dimensions. Seal number 5 was extra in my case. 

 

If you need better photo or scan of document that came with seals let me know and I’ll send it to you.

 

Best Regards,

Vladan - SV Pame

A54 #157

Image.jpeg


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 21:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

 

Dear Amelians,


I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear.
I was in contact with Maud.  She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment).

The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.

Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.

 

So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,

as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).

 

Thanks a lot you for your help.

 

 Best regards

 Stefan

 A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands


 


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


 


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Vladan. Having just serviced my main sail furler I suspect from your photo this mounts externally on the output shaft sitting down on the top of the housing. One caviat on that opinion is I was looking at the photo on the small screen of my phone 

Kind Regards 

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 27 September 2021 at 19:16 Vladan SV PAME <vladan.bojic@...> wrote:

 
 
Hi Stefan,

I bought set of seals for main sail manual furler in March this year from Amel.

After replacing them all on main sail furler I remained with one seal that I don’t know what is for.

In attached photo you have all dimensions. Seal number 5 was extra in my case. 

If you need better photo or scan of document that came with seals let me know and I’ll send it to you.

Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 #157
Image.jpeg

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Stefan Schaufert <mail@...>
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 21:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
 
Dear Amelians,

I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear.
I was in contact with Maud.  She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment).
The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.
Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.
 
So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,
as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).
 
Thanks a lot you for your help.
 
 Best regards
 Stefan
 A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands


 


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


 


Re: SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???

Vladan SV PAME
 

Hi Stefan,

I bought set of seals for main sail manual furler in March this year from Amel.

After replacing them all on main sail furler I remained with one seal that I don’t know what is for.

In attached photo you have all dimensions. Seal number 5 was extra in my case. 

If you need better photo or scan of document that came with seals let me know and I’ll send it to you.

Best Regards,
Vladan - SV Pame
A54 #157
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 21:54
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] SM & A54 Main + Mizzen manual furling gear boxes - seals, o-rings, dust cover … + source(s) ???
 
Dear Amelians,

I want to change all seals etc. for the main and mizzen manual rolling gear.
I was in contact with Maud.  She sends me a good picture, but cannot send me a list of measurements etc. and a set of seals etc. (at least not at the moment).
The forum helped me more (posts and references from Pat SM 123, Scott, Ken ...) but I'm completely stuck now.
Not sure about the dimensions or type of the seals, I haven't found a good source.
 
So I hope that someone has a list with the proven number, dimension, etc. of all the seals required, etc.,
as well as a good source in Europe, ideally in Germany (preferably all parts together).
 
Thanks a lot you for your help.
 
 Best regards
 Stefan
 A54 # 119 Lady Charlyette, currently La Palma - Canary Islands


--
Vladan

A54 #157
SV PAME


Re: Buying an Amel

Michael Winand
 

Maybe you could let us know what model you are looking for? 
Michael Nebo sm251,

Some  times you will have to upgrade systems , rigging, electronics,  apart from the costs it's all time consuming.
How long will you own the amel?
If this is a long term relationship, you will likely need to make updates to most of the systems. 
Not many people will have everything in Bristol ,as new, when the time comes to sell,  

When looking at what is available now,  I will try to find out,  current owner length of ownership.  Type of use.  Last upgrades done, if any.  
We purchased 3 years ago, some issues were lack of use   previous owner of 10 years put 300 hours on the engine,  water maker had only been used for 187 hours. 
Sailed from Europe to West Coast of America then Australia. 
I have serviced most of the systems in the past years. 
Still too doo the mast furling boxes.
This is a very well designed and constructed yacht   Amel used alot of their own systems and they are designed to be rebuilt and repaired.
Good luck in your search. 
Michael 

On Mon, 27 Sep 2021, 5:17 am Trevor Lusty, <trevlusty@...> wrote:
Hi Paul,
            You have it all with Joel and Bill. Olivier to survey.  Even more importantly, what little these guys don't know, they have immediate resource available to fill the gaps.
Coupled with the generosity of spirit that you will find here, there is no need to reinvent the wheel.
Best regards,
Trevor


Re: Researching low profile solar panels

Gregory Shea
 


Hey JB, 
I have the same "in front of the mizzen" arrangement as you. The issue with that arrangement is that the width of the panels is constrained by the mizzen and the boom and/or topping lift. Finding panels with the correct geometry I found challenging. The only vendor that offered panels that would work for me was a German outfit, Offgridtech. 
They are not particularly cheap but their technolgy seems more than adequate, their quality is excellent, the performance works for me and their delivery is reliable. I have two of their semi-flexibles in front of the mizzen and two of their rigids on the rail. Flexibility was not something I really needed, geometry and weight were my primary drivers in choosing the semi-flexibles. 
You can order direct from them or via Amazon.de. In one instance I had them ship to Italy and this year to Greece. Spain should be a snap. Their website is a mix of German and English but you can figure it out if you find yourself in a German bit.
In case you are looking at new panels that are wider than the old ones, don't just check the clearance with the sail furled.  Lift the boom up to the "to-be" position of the new panels and make sure they clear. Everything may seem OK in the static position but when the boom raises, as the sail is deployed, the dynamic clearance may be much less than you thought. I put a new main on my boat this year and with the sail furled everything looked fine. However, the cut of the new sail was sufficiently different to the old one that the end of the boom, when sailing, was much higher than with my old sail. The first time I gybed, the boom hit the solar framework. An Amel boom hitting anything will put the fear of god in you. A gybing Amel boom even more so. The framework was immediately raised to clear.
Attached are some pics of an early version of my setup with my old main deployed.
Good luck with the project.

Greg Shea
Sharki 133 Cap des Iles
Kilada, Greece


From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of JB Duler <jbduler@...>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 3:20 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Researching low profile solar panels
 
Hello,

I have a unique setup, an arch in front of the mizzen mast where 19W flexible solar panels were installed maybe 20 years ago. They are dead.

  1. I want to explore low profile rigid panels (the boom swings above it) as I do not think I can fit normal panels with regular height.
    1. Any of you have had experience with low profile panels? I would prefer low profile panels instead of flexible panels (but if I find nothing I may revert to flexible panels).
    2. The dimensions of the arch are 245 cm * 51 cm
  2. I can install a rigid or flexible panel on the rigid dodger where I can fit 45 cm * 135 cm
  3. I am also exploring adding side panels mounted on the Swedish system we recently discussed (Thanks Danny and Greg for the tips!)
  4. Any brand or dealer you would recommend?

The boat is based near Barcelona. Where is a good source to get panels in Europe? I know where to go in the US but not in Europe.

Thanks again for the help,
--
John Bernard "JB" Duler
San Francisco
Meltem # 19, Western Med


Re: Need help from a 54 owner in La Rochelle

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Laurens,

Please be aware I’m working with Sofomarin as well. Some moths ago I helped designing a new secondary manifold together with Bill Rouse and others. This has been in place since on our boat.
About the primary manifold; for me it is clear the strainer needs to be replaced with an unmodified version. I’m also planning to raise the strainer by approx 10 cm to get the rim of the strainer above the static waterline.
I sent a schematic drawing to Sofomarin for this last week asking them to suggest a setup and size diagram for this.

Kind regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121 


Re: Buying an Amel

Trevor Lusty
 

Hi Paul,
            You have it all with Joel and Bill. Olivier to survey.  Even more importantly, what little these guys don't know, they have immediate resource available to fill the gaps.
Coupled with the generosity of spirit that you will find here, there is no need to reinvent the wheel.
Best regards,
Trevor


Re: Water maker - mental moment

 

Arno, 

I agree there is not a documented middle position.
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 4:06 AM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
I can confirm the three way valve starts leaking after xxx time. I had to replace mine last year. By the way I don’t think there is a documented middle postion for the valve by the way. I only use two positions.
I did add a second three way valve to add an inlet for flushing the system with sterilizing fluid.

Cheers,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121


Re: Speed sensor rubber cap

 

As long as you apply the sealant to the sides, I cannot see how it will have an adverse effect. Do not lose the cap, they cannot be purchased separately.


CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar

On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 1:26 AM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

HI Bill;

 

I was thinking of using a sealant that would set under water. Any recommendation for the sealant? I may have something on board. I have to check. I do have some epoxy that will set under water. May be just some on the outside edge, so it creates an edge to prevent the cap from falling off. Now I’m thinking maybe a certain amount of growth, is a good thing.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

B&B Kokomo

Amel 54 #099

 

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Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 12:33 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Speed sensor rubber cap

 

I had exactly the same issue. My sonic speed stopped working. I dove and found that I had one big barnacle on the rubber cap  When I pulled on the barnacle the cap came off.

 

Amel told me to reattach it with silicone sealant on the edges. 

 

I didn't haulout to do that and waited for about 6 months for a scheduled haul out. I replaced the cap, but Sonic Speed never worked. 

 

Good luck!

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   

 

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021, 3:48 PM Mohammad Shirloo <mshirloo@...> wrote:

Our speed sensor was a bit erratic after a 3 week stay in Venice. I dove in it today to clean the rubber caps with my diving gloves. The rubber cap came off of the forward sensor and I was able to catch it before it went to the bottom. 


I need to put the cap on while in water, until we haul out next year. It appears to be just a pressure fit as I could not see any sealant. The sealant may have just worn off in the past 12 years. Any advice on how to fit it back in under water, would be appreciated.

i have added pictures of the part to be reinstalled.

thank you.

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