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Re: Compass Replacement

Matt Salatino
 

In the US, mineral oil is sold in most hardware stores. We found it in La Rochelle France in a kitchen supply store. It is a thin, clear, inert oil. We also used it to fill the void in our through-the-hull depth sounder transducer, so we did not need to drill a hole in the hull for our depth sounder.
We also use it to season our cutting board.

On Jan 18, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> wrote:

Hi Matt. We have the problem too so your description is timely. You say mineral oil. Can ypu be more specific.

Regards

Danny sm 299 Ocean Pearl

On 19 January 2021 at 08:23 "Matt Salatino via groups.io" <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

We were able to service ours. (A YouTube exists for this)
Easy.
Remove the top cover. (The plastic buttons on the side act as the hinge for the cover and carefully snap out. If you lose one, Plastimo supplies these as spares, sometimes for free.)
Remove the compass from its mount. You don’t have to remove completely, just to tilt it forward a bit. Prop it so it stays upright. Light wiring didn’t need disconnecting.
The dome is plastic.
Drill a small hole at the top, still under where the cover is located. Make sure the hole is at the top center of the bubble (the reason for tilting the compass forward, to position the top of the bubble under the cover location). We carefully used a home made funnel to fill the air bubble with mineral oil. When full, clean the outside of the sphere very well.
We used clear  5 minute epoxy, a small dab, to cover the hole. Let it set up a bit, so it’s quite thick (so it doesn’t run into the hole). Let dry and reassemble. Bubble gone!
We sold the boat two years later. We keep up with the new owner and the bubble has not reappeared, another two years later.

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Matt & Michelle Day < charlesmatthewday@...> wrote:

After 20+ years of service, the compass on Talia (SM#209) has developed an air bubble (astonishing service life by today's standards).  The compass is a Plastimo Olympic 135. 

My intention was to remove the compass, replace the oil, and/or diaphragm.  However, after disassembly followed by a little web research it appears this model compass is not serviceable.

Anyone on the forum serviced or replaced this compass?  Replaced with the same Olympic 135, or other make/model?

Many thanks for your input.


 


 


Re: Compass Replacement

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Matt. We have the problem too so your description is timely. You say mineral oil. Can ypu be more specific.

Regards

Danny sm 299 Ocean Pearl

On 19 January 2021 at 08:23 "Matt Salatino via groups.io" <helmsmatt@...> wrote:

We were able to service ours. (A YouTube exists for this)
Easy.
Remove the top cover. (The plastic buttons on the side act as the hinge for the cover and carefully snap out. If you lose one, Plastimo supplies these as spares, sometimes for free.)
Remove the compass from its mount. You don’t have to remove completely, just to tilt it forward a bit. Prop it so it stays upright. Light wiring didn’t need disconnecting.
The dome is plastic.
Drill a small hole at the top, still under where the cover is located. Make sure the hole is at the top center of the bubble (the reason for tilting the compass forward, to position the top of the bubble under the cover location). We carefully used a home made funnel to fill the air bubble with mineral oil. When full, clean the outside of the sphere very well.
We used clear  5 minute epoxy, a small dab, to cover the hole. Let it set up a bit, so it’s quite thick (so it doesn’t run into the hole). Let dry and reassemble. Bubble gone!
We sold the boat two years later. We keep up with the new owner and the bubble has not reappeared, another two years later.

~~~ ⛵️~~~ Matt

On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Matt & Michelle Day < charlesmatthewday@...> wrote:

After 20+ years of service, the compass on Talia (SM#209) has developed an air bubble (astonishing service life by today's standards).  The compass is a Plastimo Olympic 135. 

My intention was to remove the compass, replace the oil, and/or diaphragm.  However, after disassembly followed by a little web research it appears this model compass is not serviceable.

Anyone on the forum serviced or replaced this compass?  Replaced with the same Olympic 135, or other make/model?

Many thanks for your input.


 


 


Re: Engine Battery Drain - Is it the Prop Shaft Alternator?

Courtney Gorman
 

Hi woody the only thing that charges the starter battery is the engine alternator so if you don’t start it regularly it dies sorry 😞 


On Jan 16, 2021, at 12:04 PM, Alan "Woody" Wood <woody@...> wrote:



Well this was an interesting one.. if you're into this sort of thing!

I had replaced a defunct engine room blower a few days previously, exchanging the Jabsco 35440-0010 with a 35770-0094 continuous duty blower.. and it completely drained the battery.
I was aware it was on the 12v starter battery system (even though its a 24v blower) but presumed if it wasn't operational then it wouldn't draw any power.
Evidently I was wrong :/ 


Water system Mystery Valve

Ian Townsend
 

Friends, I am having a devil of a time with installing a new freshwater diaphragm pump with adjustable pressure switch from 17-55 PSI. Even at a low setting for the switch, it is overpressurizing the system. This should not be.
In order to prime the system, I opened what I call the mystery valve (picture below). System then primed properly primed and the pump cycled off. After two hours, suddenly the water heater tank release valve blew. So I then joined the hoses and bypassed the water heater. Then the pressure gauge above the mystery valve developed a pin hole and is also leaking at its connections. 

Any ideas?



Ian
Loca Lola II
SM 153


Re: Compass Replacement

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Matt & Michelle,

 

I replaced ours  four years ago in Martinique because of a large bubble. I wrote to Plastimo and asked them if more compass oil could be added. They responded by saying this model is a sealed design and if I have air, it is because there is a small leak somewhere. It turned out to be a good idea to replace it since the housing had become very brittle and easily cracked when removing it as you can see in the picture. I purchase the replacement at one of the local ship stores in La Marin. https://www.creampuff.us/2018/02/martinique-and-repairs/

 

The exact replacement is Plastimo Olympic 135 and is available worldwide.

https://www.plastimo.com/en/compas-olympic-6274.html

 

It is worth noting there are screws securing the compass under the plastic plates on the compass. Four screws. Also, the new compass is LED and you cannot dim it. It is on or off. The LED is 12/24v. I had spare incandescent bulbs for the compass and I could have used these to keep the dimming function however, I opted to stick with the LED. Use silicone to waterproof the assembly.

 

The compass comes with calibration instructions. Ours was only off by 1° out of the box.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Matt & Michelle Day
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 7:56 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Compass Replacement

 

After 20+ years of service, the compass on Talia (SM#209) has developed an air bubble (astonishing service life by today's standards).  The compass is a Plastimo Olympic 135. 

My intention was to remove the compass, replace the oil, and/or diaphragm.  However, after disassembly followed by a little web research it appears this model compass is not serviceable.

Anyone on the forum serviced or replaced this compass?  Replaced with the same Olympic 135, or other make/model?

Many thanks for your input.


Re: Compass Replacement

Matt Salatino
 

We were able to service ours. (A YouTube exists for this)
Easy.
Remove the top cover. (The plastic buttons on the side act as the hinge for the cover and carefully snap out. If you lose one, Plastimo supplies these as spares, sometimes for free.)
Remove the compass from its mount. You don’t have to remove completely, just to tilt it forward a bit. Prop it so it stays upright. Light wiring didn’t need disconnecting.
The dome is plastic.
Drill a small hole at the top, still under where the cover is located. Make sure the hole is at the top center of the bubble (the reason for tilting the compass forward, to position the top of the bubble under the cover location). We carefully used a home made funnel to fill the air bubble with mineral oil. When full, clean the outside of the sphere very well.
We used clear  5 minute epoxy, a small dab, to cover the hole. Let it set up a bit, so it’s quite thick (so it doesn’t run into the hole). Let dry and reassemble. Bubble gone!
We sold the boat two years later. We keep up with the new owner and the bubble has not reappeared, another two years later.

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Jan 18, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Matt & Michelle Day <charlesmatthewday@...> wrote:

After 20+ years of service, the compass on Talia (SM#209) has developed an air bubble (astonishing service life by today's standards).  The compass is a Plastimo Olympic 135. 

My intention was to remove the compass, replace the oil, and/or diaphragm.  However, after disassembly followed by a little web research it appears this model compass is not serviceable.

Anyone on the forum serviced or replaced this compass?  Replaced with the same Olympic 135, or other make/model?

Many thanks for your input.


Re: Compass Replacement

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hello,

Same happened on my previous boat few years ago. I just replaced it with new one. Cost was close to 200 Euro. It was easy, 1 hour work.  The old one I kept for emergency.
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: Replacing carpet

Patrick McAneny
 

Mike, I considered binding absolutely necessary as we had berber carpet ,that wears very well ,but can unravel if not bound. I would think you would want to bound most carpet for the same reason and of course for appearance sake. As to traction, it has never shifted underfoot , probably because it fits tightly around the perimeter .We chose a short pile as it does not hide and hold sand etc. and can be easily vacuumed .
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 11:53 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing carpet

With the frustration of not finding a urethane foam backed broadloom carpet (apparently available in Canada, but not the US) I am considering a thick carpet without backing. My concern was about traction on the sole but if the carpet is heavy and penned in around the perimeter, slippage may not be an issue. And removing the attached pad constraint opens a world of options. Did you consider not binding the perimeter?
Thanks Pat and all.
Mike
 
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 11:12 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing carpet
 
Mike, Diane and I replaced our carpet about ten years ago,we went up the Airbase carpet mart in New Castle ,bought a short nap berber in beige ,used the old carpets as templates ,cut the new carpet maybe a 1/4" shorter all around ,allowing room for the binding of the edges. After cutting the pieces out we took them back and had them bind the edges. The new carpets fit as tight and as exacting as the original. We do not have foam backing ,I like the firm footing while underway ,if I had foam ,I would not want it very thick ,as it would not aid my balance on a rolling floor. The carpet still looks like new ,berber wears very well.
Our boat is in Haven Harbor north ,stopped by Haven Harbor south a few weeks ago ,but did not see your boat.
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 10:28 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing carpet
We are looking to replace our carpet and prefer to have a foam back both for comfort and non-slip. Saw Mark’s post on Shaw Nuwave backed carpet but it appears that is no longer in production. Received samples from Boatcarpet.com and even their “Premium Textured 22 oz.” carpet which are not foam backed and seems of low quality. Kanga, in Georgia (USA), makes a polyurethane foam rubber backing which they say they attach to carpet by Shaw, Marquis, Mohawk, and Engineered Floors. So far I have not found any vendor in the US that has such a product. Will continue search, but has anyone recently found a replacement carpet recently that they like?
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM#240
Rock Hall, MD


Re: Replacing carpet

Mark Erdos
 

Found it. The website I got a quote from is gone. Here is the brand: Aquamat. If you do a search for the brand, you can find retailers.

 

No photo description available.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark Erdos via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 7:51 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing carpet

 

Hi Mike,

 

Sorry that didn’t work out. Thanks for letting me know it is no longer available. Too bad, carpet has lasted well for us and still looks good.

 

When I replace ours, I did consider another option. It was a plastic ribbed backing. Very high quality but a lot more money. The site I looked at made everything (binding, leather pull up tabs, etc.) and shipped pre-cut and ready to lay down. I’ll see if I can find it.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 5:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing carpet

 

We are looking to replace our carpet and prefer to have a foam back both for comfort and non-slip. Saw Mark’s post on Shaw Nuwave backed carpet but it appears that is no longer in production. Received samples from Boatcarpet.com and even their “Premium Textured 22 oz.” carpet which are not foam backed and seems of low quality. Kanga, in Georgia (USA), makes a polyurethane foam rubber backing which they say they attach to carpet by Shaw, Marquis, Mohawk, and Engineered Floors. So far I have not found any vendor in the US that has such a product. Will continue search, but has anyone recently found a replacement carpet recently that they like?

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD


Compass Replacement

Matt & Michelle Day
 

After 20+ years of service, the compass on Talia (SM#209) has developed an air bubble (astonishing service life by today's standards).  The compass is a Plastimo Olympic 135. 

My intention was to remove the compass, replace the oil, and/or diaphragm.  However, after disassembly followed by a little web research it appears this model compass is not serviceable.

Anyone on the forum serviced or replaced this compass?  Replaced with the same Olympic 135, or other make/model?

Many thanks for your input.


Re: Replacing carpet

Mark Erdos
 

Hi Mike,

 

Sorry that didn’t work out. Thanks for letting me know it is no longer available. Too bad, carpet has lasted well for us and still looks good.

 

When I replace ours, I did consider another option. It was a plastic ribbed backing. Very high quality but a lot more money. The site I looked at made everything (binding, leather pull up tabs, etc.) and shipped pre-cut and ready to lay down. I’ll see if I can find it.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Tahiti, French Polynesia

www.creampuff.us

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Ondra via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 5:28 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing carpet

 

We are looking to replace our carpet and prefer to have a foam back both for comfort and non-slip. Saw Mark’s post on Shaw Nuwave backed carpet but it appears that is no longer in production. Received samples from Boatcarpet.com and even their “Premium Textured 22 oz.” carpet which are not foam backed and seems of low quality. Kanga, in Georgia (USA), makes a polyurethane foam rubber backing which they say they attach to carpet by Shaw, Marquis, Mohawk, and Engineered Floors. So far I have not found any vendor in the US that has such a product. Will continue search, but has anyone recently found a replacement carpet recently that they like?

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD


Re: Replacing carpet

Mike Ondra
 

With the frustration of not finding a urethane foam backed broadloom carpet (apparently available in Canada, but not the US) I am considering a thick carpet without backing. My concern was about traction on the sole but if the carpet is heavy and penned in around the perimeter, slippage may not be an issue. And removing the attached pad constraint opens a world of options. Did you consider not binding the perimeter?

Thanks Pat and all.

Mike

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 11:12 AM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing carpet

 

Mike, Diane and I replaced our carpet about ten years ago,we went up the Airbase carpet mart in New Castle ,bought a short nap berber in beige ,used the old carpets as templates ,cut the new carpet maybe a 1/4" shorter all around ,allowing room for the binding of the edges. After cutting the pieces out we took them back and had them bind the edges. The new carpets fit as tight and as exacting as the original. We do not have foam backing ,I like the firm footing while underway ,if I had foam ,I would not want it very thick ,as it would not aid my balance on a rolling floor. The carpet still looks like new ,berber wears very well.

Our boat is in Haven Harbor north ,stopped by Haven Harbor south a few weeks ago ,but did not see your boat.

Stay Safe,

Pat

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 10:28 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing carpet

We are looking to replace our carpet and prefer to have a foam back both for comfort and non-slip. Saw Mark’s post on Shaw Nuwave backed carpet but it appears that is no longer in production. Received samples from Boatcarpet.com and even their “Premium Textured 22 oz.” carpet which are not foam backed and seems of low quality. Kanga, in Georgia (USA), makes a polyurethane foam rubber backing which they say they attach to carpet by Shaw, Marquis, Mohawk, and Engineered Floors. So far I have not found any vendor in the US that has such a product. Will continue search, but has anyone recently found a replacement carpet recently that they like?

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD


Re: Replacing carpet

Patrick McAneny
 

Mike, Diane and I replaced our carpet about ten years ago,we went up the Airbase carpet mart in New Castle ,bought a short nap berber in beige ,used the old carpets as templates ,cut the new carpet maybe a 1/4" shorter all around ,allowing room for the binding of the edges. After cutting the pieces out we took them back and had them bind the edges. The new carpets fit as tight and as exacting as the original. We do not have foam backing ,I like the firm footing while underway ,if I had foam ,I would not want it very thick ,as it would not aid my balance on a rolling floor. The carpet still looks like new ,berber wears very well.
Our boat is in Haven Harbor north ,stopped by Haven Harbor south a few weeks ago ,but did not see your boat.
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra@...>
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Jan 18, 2021 10:28 am
Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing carpet

We are looking to replace our carpet and prefer to have a foam back both for comfort and non-slip. Saw Mark’s post on Shaw Nuwave backed carpet but it appears that is no longer in production. Received samples from Boatcarpet.com and even their “Premium Textured 22 oz.” carpet which are not foam backed and seems of low quality. Kanga, in Georgia (USA), makes a polyurethane foam rubber backing which they say they attach to carpet by Shaw, Marquis, Mohawk, and Engineered Floors. So far I have not found any vendor in the US that has such a product. Will continue search, but has anyone recently found a replacement carpet recently that they like?
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM#240
Rock Hall, MD


Re: Fresh Water Pump

Stephen Davis
 

I agree with Bill regarding the Marco pump. We have had one for several years now, and consider it to be much higher quality than most of the other pumps available. 

Steve Davis
Aloha SM 72
Port Townsend, WA


Re: Replacing carpet

Bill Hall
 

Have you considered roll neoprene.  It comes in different colors and thicknesses.  Supplier should be easy to track down.  Think wet suites

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 7:34 AM Aras Grinius <aras.grinius@...> wrote:
One thought would those bathroom carpets. If you could figure out the manufacturer then maybe you could a larger size / custom cut.   Those carpet are meant for wet environs.  Just a thought.
I use them in my salon [course my space is much smaller.

Aras Sharki #163 1988

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 10:28 AM Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

We are looking to replace our carpet and prefer to have a foam back both for comfort and non-slip. Saw Mark’s post on Shaw Nuwave backed carpet but it appears that is no longer in production. Received samples from Boatcarpet.com and even their “Premium Textured 22 oz.” carpet which are not foam backed and seems of low quality. Kanga, in Georgia (USA), makes a polyurethane foam rubber backing which they say they attach to carpet by Shaw, Marquis, Mohawk, and Engineered Floors. So far I have not found any vendor in the US that has such a product. Will continue search, but has anyone recently found a replacement carpet recently that they like?

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD













--
Aras Grinius











Re: Replacing carpet

Aras Grinius
 

One thought would those bathroom carpets. If you could figure out the manufacturer then maybe you could a larger size / custom cut.   Those carpet are meant for wet environs.  Just a thought.
I use them in my salon [course my space is much smaller.

Aras Sharki #163 1988


On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 10:28 AM Mike Ondra via groups.io <mdondra=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:

We are looking to replace our carpet and prefer to have a foam back both for comfort and non-slip. Saw Mark’s post on Shaw Nuwave backed carpet but it appears that is no longer in production. Received samples from Boatcarpet.com and even their “Premium Textured 22 oz.” carpet which are not foam backed and seems of low quality. Kanga, in Georgia (USA), makes a polyurethane foam rubber backing which they say they attach to carpet by Shaw, Marquis, Mohawk, and Engineered Floors. So far I have not found any vendor in the US that has such a product. Will continue search, but has anyone recently found a replacement carpet recently that they like?

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD



--
Aras Grinius


Replacing carpet

Mike Ondra
 

We are looking to replace our carpet and prefer to have a foam back both for comfort and non-slip. Saw Mark’s post on Shaw Nuwave backed carpet but it appears that is no longer in production. Received samples from Boatcarpet.com and even their “Premium Textured 22 oz.” carpet which are not foam backed and seems of low quality. Kanga, in Georgia (USA), makes a polyurethane foam rubber backing which they say they attach to carpet by Shaw, Marquis, Mohawk, and Engineered Floors. So far I have not found any vendor in the US that has such a product. Will continue search, but has anyone recently found a replacement carpet recently that they like?

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

Rock Hall, MD


Re: Zoom meeting with Olivier Beaute

Joerg Esdorn
 

Billy, I asked exactly that question of Amel and they told me that there is no impact for the 55.  Cheers Joerg

Joerg Esdorn
A55 #37 Kincsem
On the hard in Vigo, Spain
 


Re: Fresh Water Pump

Martin Birkhoff
 

Hi Ian,
in July 2018 we replaced the failing fresh water pump to a Marco UP6 25 PSI. Since then it is working without any problems and there is sufficient pressure on all tabs and outlets (dish washer, washing machine, showers including the stern shower).

Martin Birkhoff

Mago del Sur - 54#40


Re: Fresh Water Pump

Karen Smith
 

I know it violates your stated desire for a diaphragm pump, but I think the Marco gear pumps are the cat's meow.  I think you'd be happy with a #3 or a #6.

They are simple, robust, quiet, and very compact with continuously variable speed so supply pressure is constant.  We have had one for almost 5 years, and haven't needed to work on it yet.  A spare parts kit of a shaft seal, motor brushes, and a few gears and they should go almost forever.

I personally would not go to a 55 PSI pump.  That is just an invitation to waste water.  We are very happy with a steady 25PSI.  

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Charleston, SC, USA

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