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Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Mark Barter
 

Thanks Dan, I have sent those photographs to the fitter. He really seems now to have got on top of this job so I am more confident  that it will go well.

I can see that you have moved the fuel filter but I can't see where you have put it. 

I was thinking of putting the dual filters that I have bought a bit higher and the other side of the valve shut off extension.  
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Replacing standing rigging - advice for other jobs?

Scott SV Tengah
 

Trey,

We replaced our VHF last year and our AIS antenna on the mizzen this year. Cables replaced with both. BIG BIG difference compared to the original 12 year old antenna. The original Banten antennas on ours were "one piece" so a non-removable cable came out of the bottom of the antenna. I replaced wiring with RG-8X cables. LMR-400 would be better, but good luck fitting that in. I tried and failed but maybe it's easier if the mast is down. I actually ran new VHF cable all the way to the helm station. My AIS could "see" maybe 10 miles previously and now I've seen targets as far as 45 miles out. I'm sure my transmission has gotten a lot better, too.

I used the Shakespeare 5215 for both VHF and AIS. I know there's some line of thought that you should get an AIS specific antenna as it is tuned for the specific AIS frequencies but I wanted it to possibly function as a backup VHF antenna, if necessary. The thread fits perfectly in the hole in the mast where the old Banten antenna sat. Use self amalgamating rubber wrap and good electrical tape on the connectors. I zip tied the tape for good measure.

One silly thing that I really really love is our photosensitive anchor light. Confirm that your A54 has the same Aqua Signal housing as we do, however.

When we're anchored for a week or so, I just leave the anchor light switch on the entire time. The bulb lights up at dusk. Earlier we'd end up leaving the anchor light on if there's any chance we would be away. Sure, LEDs are supposed to last forever, but on a boat....

https://store.marinebeam.com/indexed-bayonet-tri-color-led-bulb-for-aqua-signal-series-40/

Also, our tricolor bulb was quite dim - this fixed it:

https://store.marinebeam.com/indexed-bayonet-tri-color-led-bulb-for-aqua-signal-series-40/

hope this helps!


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Dan Wilcox
 

Here is what I got. 
HR = high rise, gear ratio was determined by prop used (I have a max prop )

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I worked with Stan @ Beta Marine US Ltd.
tel 252.249.2473 or 877.227.2473

I went overboard with 4" rails.  

 Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM#86

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On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 01:30:59 PM PST, michael winand via groups.io <mfw642000@...> wrote:


We have the tmc260  on the the Beta 60. 
Michael  sm251 


On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 4:08 pm, Mark Barter
<markbarter100@...> wrote:
Thanks for all of the help with this. 

The fitter is modifying the rails and the mounts and also moving the alternator to the opposite side.

The problem with the gearbox is that they ordered a straight gearbox and not what they have described as a "drop box". The drop box means that the exit part of the gearbox is lower than the input side if that makes sense. The engine simply won't fit with a straight gearbox.

Can anyone tell me what model of gearbox has been successfully fitted because we need to find one ASAP.

We are currently tied to an exposed wall of a boatyard and a storm is expected tomorrow. We are being towed to a marina today which I am not looking forward to at all.  

Thanks again for the invaluable help.

--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

michael winand
 

We have the tmc260  on the the Beta 60. 
Michael  sm251 


On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 4:08 pm, Mark Barter
<markbarter100@...> wrote:
Thanks for all of the help with this. 

The fitter is modifying the rails and the mounts and also moving the alternator to the opposite side.

The problem with the gearbox is that they ordered a straight gearbox and not what they have described as a "drop box". The drop box means that the exit part of the gearbox is lower than the input side if that makes sense. The engine simply won't fit with a straight gearbox.

Can anyone tell me what model of gearbox has been successfully fitted because we need to find one ASAP.

We are currently tied to an exposed wall of a boatyard and a storm is expected tomorrow. We are being towed to a marina today which I am not looking forward to at all.  

Thanks again for the invaluable help.

--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Event: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Saturday, 16 January 2021 #cal-invite

Germain Jean-Pierre
 

Hi Alain,

You have joined the best tool to keep your Amel in top form. 

Welcome 

Jean-Pierre Germain, Eleuthera, SM007, New Zealand



On 4/12/2020, at 5:36 AM, Alain Blanchard <akdf85@...> wrote:

 Dear all,

I am a new member and my name is Alain Blanchard (recently retired). I have finally found the boat I was looking for. I am the new care holder of Koriolys (SM 164 / we kept the same name) and I called for Olivier to conduct the survey last October. I was really satisfied with Olivier’s performance and all the advices from him.
I am sure that every participant will enjoy the Zoom meeting.
I am impressed with the quality of comments and advices from all you.

Again very happy to be part of this family.

Regards / Alain   

Le 3 déc. 2020 à 16:50, Roque <ediroque@...> a écrit :

Great idea! 

Congrats

Roque

Em qui., 3 de dez. de 2020 às 12:39, main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <noreply@groups.io> escreveu:

An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute

When:
Saturday, 16 January 2021
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

Where:
From La Rochelle, France

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@...

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

All,
 
It is my great pleasure to announce that Olivier Beaute will present at our first ZOOM Meeting of 2021. It will be held on 16 January 2021 20:00 to 21:00 UTC. Details:
 
Many members of the Amel Yacht Owners Group trained on their new Amels with Olivier in La Rochelle. Many of us relied on Olivier as the manager of Amel SAV. And, a substantial number of our Group have used Olivier's surveys when purchasing their pre-owned Amels. As most of you know, after a long and successful career with Amel, Olivier Beaute went into the survey business and established ATLANTIC YACHT SURVEY.
 
The topic of Olivier's ZOOM Meeting will be "An Amel Survey." His presentation will last about 30 minutes with 30 minutes for questions. Tilo Peters will monitor, queue, and ask Olivier your texted questions.  
 
This meeting will be very good for all of our members. 
  • Members who own an Amel will someday face having their Amel surveyed. These members will be interested in how to maintain and prepare their boat for a survey and some of the common things that are overlooked by Sellers in preparation to sell their Amel. This will be important information to know in advance of a survey. 
  • Members who are searching for an Amel will need a survey to complete the purchase. These members will enjoy learning more about the survey process, especially the Olivier Beaute survey process. This should be extremely valuable.

I suspect that this meeting may book to capacity and urge you to register soon.

Topic: AYOG January Gathering: An Amel Survey
Time: Jan 16, 2021 08:00 PM (20:00) GMT
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 821 2513 7503
 
Join by Skype for Business
 
YouTube Livestream: https://youtu.be/zYika5HEkZE





Re: A54 bow thruster seal replacement?

Scott SV Tengah
 

Thanks everyone - very helpful.
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: ONAN replacement or not?

Scott SV Tengah
 

I think I have been quite open and honest about what I like and my difficulties.  The post I wrote over a year ago about my saga with lifepo4 was entitled : "Converting my Amel 54 to lithium batteries: what I did, what I like and what I don't like (after one year of full time live aboard use)". While it is true that I do love them after living with them full-time for two years now, I do think I've been quite open with difficulties or reservations. I believe Amel includes them as standard on the A60 and having lived with the batteries, I understand why. 

Regarding your comparison to electric car batteries, you made the common mistake of mixing up the lithium ion in electric cars and your mobile phone with lifepo4, which is what we install in our boats. The former is much more sensitive/fragile/dangerous. In fact, Tesla is now claiming they're going to start using a breakthrough new battery that lasts longer, is cheaper and is much more durable. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/30/tesla-and-the-science-of-low-cost-next-gen-ev-million-mile-battery.html

That "next generation" battery is called lithium iron phosphate - the same stuff that has been around since 1996 and the same type of lithium battery I have in my boat. Gotta love the power of marketing.

For Alex's case, let's assume he has 1000 hours of life left in his generator. With my modest 450AH bank and 200Amp chargers, I can fully (0-100%) discharge and recharge my battery bank over 400 times. That is assuming I have no solar and I don't have the 110 AH alternator on my engine. With the latter two, my experience and the experience of others with lifepo4 is that we're stressing about not running our generators enough.




--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: BVI Fines for sailing I n BVI waters

Matt Salatino
 

Done, thanks

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 3, 2020, at 1:37 PM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

You might want to check this video out on the BVI Government homepage in Facebook and comment using social media.

https://fb.watch/28Wpyn_Fhn/
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: BVI Fines for sailing I n BVI waters

 

You might want to check this video out on the BVI Government homepage in Facebook and comment using social media.

https://fb.watch/28Wpyn_Fhn/
--
 
Best,
 
CW Bill Rouse
Amel Owners Yacht School
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: Event: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Saturday, 16 January 2021 #cal-invite

Alain Blanchard
 

Dear all,

I am a new member and my name is Alain Blanchard (recently retired). I have finally found the boat I was looking for. I am the new care holder of Koriolys (SM 164 / we kept the same name) and I called for Olivier to conduct the survey last October. I was really satisfied with Olivier’s performance and all the advices from him.
I am sure that every participant will enjoy the Zoom meeting.
I am impressed with the quality of comments and advices from all you.

Again very happy to be part of this family.

Regards / Alain   

Le 3 déc. 2020 à 16:50, Roque <ediroque@...> a écrit :

Great idea! 

Congrats

Roque

Em qui., 3 de dez. de 2020 às 12:39, main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <noreply@groups.io> escreveu:

An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute

When:
Saturday, 16 January 2021
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

Where:
From La Rochelle, France

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@...

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

All,
 
It is my great pleasure to announce that Olivier Beaute will present at our first ZOOM Meeting of 2021. It will be held on 16 January 2021 20:00 to 21:00 UTC. Details:
 
Many members of the Amel Yacht Owners Group trained on their new Amels with Olivier in La Rochelle. Many of us relied on Olivier as the manager of Amel SAV. And, a substantial number of our Group have used Olivier's surveys when purchasing their pre-owned Amels. As most of you know, after a long and successful career with Amel, Olivier Beaute went into the survey business and established ATLANTIC YACHT SURVEY.
 
The topic of Olivier's ZOOM Meeting will be "An Amel Survey." His presentation will last about 30 minutes with 30 minutes for questions. Tilo Peters will monitor, queue, and ask Olivier your texted questions.  
 
This meeting will be very good for all of our members. 
  • Members who own an Amel will someday face having their Amel surveyed. These members will be interested in how to maintain and prepare their boat for a survey and some of the common things that are overlooked by Sellers in preparation to sell their Amel. This will be important information to know in advance of a survey. 
  • Members who are searching for an Amel will need a survey to complete the purchase. These members will enjoy learning more about the survey process, especially the Olivier Beaute survey process. This should be extremely valuable.

I suspect that this meeting may book to capacity and urge you to register soon.

Topic: AYOG January Gathering: An Amel Survey
Time: Jan 16, 2021 08:00 PM (20:00) GMT
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 821 2513 7503
 
Join by Skype for Business
 
YouTube Livestream: https://youtu.be/zYika5HEkZE





Re: Event: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Saturday, 16 January 2021 #cal-invite

Roque
 

Great idea! 

Congrats

Roque

Em qui., 3 de dez. de 2020 às 12:39, main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <noreply@groups.io> escreveu:

An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute

When:
Saturday, 16 January 2021
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

Where:
From La Rochelle, France

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@...

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

All,
 
It is my great pleasure to announce that Olivier Beaute will present at our first ZOOM Meeting of 2021. It will be held on 16 January 2021 20:00 to 21:00 UTC. Details:
 
Many members of the Amel Yacht Owners Group trained on their new Amels with Olivier in La Rochelle. Many of us relied on Olivier as the manager of Amel SAV. And, a substantial number of our Group have used Olivier's surveys when purchasing their pre-owned Amels. As most of you know, after a long and successful career with Amel, Olivier Beaute went into the survey business and established ATLANTIC YACHT SURVEY.
 
The topic of Olivier's ZOOM Meeting will be "An Amel Survey." His presentation will last about 30 minutes with 30 minutes for questions. Tilo Peters will monitor, queue, and ask Olivier your texted questions.  
 
This meeting will be very good for all of our members. 
  • Members who own an Amel will someday face having their Amel surveyed. These members will be interested in how to maintain and prepare their boat for a survey and some of the common things that are overlooked by Sellers in preparation to sell their Amel. This will be important information to know in advance of a survey. 
  • Members who are searching for an Amel will need a survey to complete the purchase. These members will enjoy learning more about the survey process, especially the Olivier Beaute survey process. This should be extremely valuable.

I suspect that this meeting may book to capacity and urge you to register soon.

Topic: AYOG January Gathering: An Amel Survey
Time: Jan 16, 2021 08:00 PM (20:00) GMT
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 821 2513 7503
 
Join by Skype for Business
 
YouTube Livestream: https://youtu.be/zYika5HEkZE


Event: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Saturday, 16 January 2021 #cal-invite

main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Calendar <noreply@...>
 

An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute

When:
Saturday, 16 January 2021
20:00 to 21:00
(UTC+00:00) UTC

Where:
From La Rochelle, France

Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@...

An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP

Description:

All,
 
It is my great pleasure to announce that Olivier Beaute will present at our first ZOOM Meeting of 2021. It will be held on 16 January 2021 20:00 to 21:00 UTC. Details:
 
Many members of the Amel Yacht Owners Group trained on their new Amels with Olivier in La Rochelle. Many of us relied on Olivier as the manager of Amel SAV. And, a substantial number of our Group have used Olivier's surveys when purchasing their pre-owned Amels. As most of you know, after a long and successful career with Amel, Olivier Beaute went into the survey business and established ATLANTIC YACHT SURVEY.
 
The topic of Olivier's ZOOM Meeting will be "An Amel Survey." His presentation will last about 30 minutes with 30 minutes for questions. Tilo Peters will monitor, queue, and ask Olivier your texted questions.  
 
This meeting will be very good for all of our members. 
  • Members who own an Amel will someday face having their Amel surveyed. These members will be interested in how to maintain and prepare their boat for a survey and some of the common things that are overlooked by Sellers in preparation to sell their Amel. This will be important information to know in advance of a survey. 
  • Members who are searching for an Amel will need a survey to complete the purchase. These members will enjoy learning more about the survey process, especially the Olivier Beaute survey process. This should be extremely valuable.

I suspect that this meeting may book to capacity and urge you to register soon.

Topic: AYOG January Gathering: An Amel Survey
Time: Jan 16, 2021 08:00 PM (20:00) GMT
 
Join Zoom Meeting
 
Meeting ID: 821 2513 7503
 
Join by Skype for Business
 
YouTube Livestream: https://youtu.be/zYika5HEkZE


Re: ONAN replacement or not?

Matt Salatino
 

Amel installed Mastervolt Gel Batteries.
Not my preference, but I had few options. AMEL’s Lithium upgrade is $40,000 USD. Too dear for our purse!
~~~⛵️~~~Matt Salatino, Speed of Life, A50 #27

On Dec 3, 2020, at 6:22 AM, Dean Gillies <stella@...> wrote:

As Scott says, the lithium profile holds many potential advantages, particularly for longer term cruisers. The one disadvantage in my mind is that they are too lightweight for the Amel 54 and maybe SM too??. The balance of the boat was designed by Amel with generator on port and lead batteries on starboard and it is seriously impacted by removing circa 250kg from the starboard side when changing to lithium. That's why I am so interested right now in comparing different flavours of lead batteries in an attempt to optimise my performance without moving to Lithium. My generator is in good condition with thousands of hours left on the clock, so for me, the balance issue is the deciding factor. Maybe I end up with lithium batteries and lead ingots until my generator dies! :-)

Alex, I believe you have the "advantage" of needing to change your generator and I think this brings opportunity to maintain the balance of the boat by carefully selecting a generator system which is sufficiently lightweight to allow you to change over to Lithium and also maintain the balance of the boat. The generator which Bill K installed looks very nice. Good luck with whatever solution you choose. 

Matt, Ah yes, I understand Amel prefer Victron Gel or AGM batteries? Are you happy with their choice?

Cheers,  Dean 
SV Stella
A54-154


Re: ONAN replacement or not?

Arno Luijten
 

Scott,

It’s clear you are a big fan of Lithium batteries. And of course there are huge benefits to them.
But you keep repeating the benefits and ignore the drawbacks. Those are (still) price and complexity of the installation. Also I’m personally still not convinced about the claimed lifespan. If you see how much moderation on the batteries is taking place in electric cars by the charging/cooling/heating system, I have my doubts about batteries lasting 15 years in a much more hostile environment. 
You also state the recharging process using solar as an alternative for the genset. That may be true on all the nice sunny days, but if you are having a few overcast days you are in trouble.
I’m not saying that Lithium is not a viable option, but there are more aspects to the installation then you like to highlight.

Regards,

Arno Liuijten


Re: ONAN replacement or not?

Dean Gillies
 

As Scott says, the lithium profile holds many potential advantages, particularly for longer term cruisers. The one disadvantage in my mind is that they are too lightweight for the Amel 54 and maybe SM too??. The balance of the boat was designed by Amel with generator on port and lead batteries on starboard and it is seriously impacted by removing circa 250kg from the starboard side when changing to lithium. That's why I am so interested right now in comparing different flavours of lead batteries in an attempt to optimise my performance without moving to Lithium. My generator is in good condition with thousands of hours left on the clock, so for me, the balance issue is the deciding factor. Maybe I end up with lithium batteries and lead ingots until my generator dies! :-)

Alex, I believe you have the "advantage" of needing to change your generator and I think this brings opportunity to maintain the balance of the boat by carefully selecting a generator system which is sufficiently lightweight to allow you to change over to Lithium and also maintain the balance of the boat. The generator which Bill K installed looks very nice. Good luck with whatever solution you choose. 

Matt, Ah yes, I understand Amel prefer Victron Gel or AGM batteries? Are you happy with their choice?

Cheers,  Dean 
SV Stella
A54-154


Re: ONAN replacement or not?

Scott SV Tengah
 
Edited

Alex,

If I were you, I'd save the money on a new genset and put it into a good sized lithium bank. My experience is the same as others where I rarely use my genset despite using around 200-250AH a day - I literally have it on my calendar to run it to keep it from dying from non-use. I routinely run the Bauer 2 on battery - in fact, I have never run it on genset because I don't want to deal with potential issues with exhaust getting into my scuba tanks. We don't use AC much, but it easily runs all night on battery when we tested it. The aft Climma plus the raw water pump draws around 1kw I think.

My reading of the Firefly materials when I was considering them highlighted a few things to me:

They still have the charge efficiency issues of lead batteries. Sure, it's a bit better, but they waste a lot more energy when accepting charge. 10AH from your charger does not equal 10AH increase in battery charge state.  You lose around 20%, I think.  In my 2 years with lifepo4, I'm averaging 97-98% charge efficiency. That means you'll be running your genset more.

Further look at these charts from a company trying to sell you the batteries!
https://coastalclimatecontrol.com/index.php/blog/186-firefly-batteries-new-testing-reveals.html

Charge acceptance drops off quickly after 30 minutes while you don't get a full charge until a bit over 3 hours. Sure, it's better than regular AGM, but the point is that you'll be running your genset more at an unhealthy low load. My 2 year old lithiums take the full 200amps until well into the 90%+ SOC level so if I were to run my genset, it's not for very long and at a healthy high load.

Discharge inefficiency goes up with higher draws.  Like most lead batteries, their amp hour rating is based on a 20 hour discharge rate. Try to run a scuba compressor and see how that affects your total available amp hours. It has virtually no impact with lithium. A 100ah lithium battery will last 10 hours at 10amp draw and around 1 hour at 100amp draw. Lead tech results in big drops in actual capacity when the discharge rate goes up. Therefore, you'll be running your genset more on these high discharge rate items.

Further, if you look at Firefly's own voltage vs SOC tables, you'll see that at low SOC, voltage sag is significant and therefore your amps go up. That makes the claim that you can draw them to low SOC a bit misleading. That same Bauer compressor that takes 2200w/26.5v = 83amps on my lifepo4 system will take 91-92 amps if you're hanging out at 40% SOC. And that is resting voltage for lead. I believe it would drop much lower at that SOC under such a high load. And because of the near non-existent discharge inefficiency of lithium, that high load has little to no impact on the battery capacity or voltage. On lead batteries, it has a huge impact, so I doubt a 116AH firefly battery would last 1/2 hour with a 91amp draw. 

Bottom line - you'll run your genset more.

I remember we talked about this before and I was telling you not to believe all the marketing material and that I thought lithium was the better option in the long run. Now that your decision criteria includes whether or not to buy a new genset, if I were you, I'd be nursing the genset + lithium vs. new genset + firefly.

I know you don't like solar arches, but be aware that deck mounted solar does not output anywhere near their rated watts. Look at any of the temp vs. power output charts and you'll quickly see why.














--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Mark Barter
 

Thanks for all of the help with this. 

The fitter is modifying the rails and the mounts and also moving the alternator to the opposite side.

The problem with the gearbox is that they ordered a straight gearbox and not what they have described as a "drop box". The drop box means that the exit part of the gearbox is lower than the input side if that makes sense. The engine simply won't fit with a straight gearbox.

Can anyone tell me what model of gearbox has been successfully fitted because we need to find one ASAP.

We are currently tied to an exposed wall of a boatyard and a storm is expected tomorrow. We are being towed to a marina today which I am not looking forward to at all.  

Thanks again for the invaluable help.

--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110


Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Dan Wilcox
 

Sure.  I actually installed it myself over the course of 2 weekends.  My rails were quite rusted so I made new ones.  I'm heading down to the boat now if you want me to take any specific pictures.

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend SM #86


On Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 02:59:23 PM PST, Matt Salatino via groups.io <helmsmatt@...> wrote:


Nice! Where is the raw water pump? How difficult is it to change the impeller?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:17 PM, michael winand via groups.io <mfw642000@...> wrote:

We installed a beta 60. Did not have any problems with the physical size. 
The gearbox is a tmc.
Beta power ratings are on the output flange of the gearbox. Compared with the Volvo at the flywheel. The beta has more torque than the Volvo. 
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 10:34 pm, Mark Barter
Hi Dan,

We are in a boatyard in Gibraltar to have our M80T replaced by the Beta 85T.

To cut a long story short, the Perkins is out and just as the fitter was about to have the Beta craned in he discovered that the Beta was too big. As I type he is trying to work out how the new engine and the engine bed can be modified to fit.

The Beta is stock from the manufacturer except that it came fitted with a large 175a Leece Neville alternator. Also, it has the wrong type of gearbox. It needs a dropbox apparently.

Do you have the photos you took when you replaced your Perkins? 

Any help would be very gratefully received.

Many thanks
Mark
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110
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Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Matt Salatino
 

Nice! Where is the raw water pump? How difficult is it to change the impeller?

~~~⛵️~~~Matt

On Dec 2, 2020, at 4:17 PM, michael winand via groups.io <mfw642000@...> wrote:

We installed a beta 60. Did not have any problems with the physical size. 
The gearbox is a tmc.
Beta power ratings are on the output flange of the gearbox. Compared with the Volvo at the flywheel. The beta has more torque than the Volvo. 
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On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 10:34 pm, Mark Barter
Hi Dan,

We are in a boatyard in Gibraltar to have our M80T replaced by the Beta 85T.

To cut a long story short, the Perkins is out and just as the fitter was about to have the Beta craned in he discovered that the Beta was too big. As I type he is trying to work out how the new engine and the engine bed can be modified to fit.

The Beta is stock from the manufacturer except that it came fitted with a large 175a Leece Neville alternator. Also, it has the wrong type of gearbox. It needs a dropbox apparently.

Do you have the photos you took when you replaced your Perkins? 

Any help would be very gratefully received.

Many thanks
Mark
--
Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110
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Re: Any SM owners use a Beta engine??

Dan Wilcox
 

Here's a picture of our Beta 85.  I extended the rail and reverse mounted the alternator (fuel filters were moved). 

Thanks, Dan
Feierabend #86

On Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 01:45:54 PM PST, michael winand via groups.io <mfw642000@...> wrote:


Michael Nebo sm251  Australia 


On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 7:17 am, michael winand
<mfw642000@...> wrote:
We installed a beta 60. Did not have any problems with the physical size. 
The gearbox is a tmc.
Beta power ratings are on the output flange of the gearbox. Compared with the Volvo at the flywheel. The beta has more torque than the Volvo. 









On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 10:34 pm, Mark Barter
<markbarter100@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,

We are in a boatyard in Gibraltar to have our M80T replaced by the Beta 85T.

To cut a long story short, the Perkins is out and just as the fitter was about to have the Beta craned in he discovered that the Beta was too big. As I type he is trying to work out how the new engine and the engine bed can be modified to fit.

The Beta is stock from the manufacturer except that it came fitted with a large 175a Leece Neville alternator. Also, it has the wrong type of gearbox. It needs a dropbox apparently.

Do you have the photos you took when you replaced your Perkins? 

Any help would be very gratefully received.

Many thanks
Mark
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Mark & Nicky Barter
S/V Nunky
SM 110