Re: Eno - 4 Burner Cooker and Grill - FOR SALE
#stove
eric freedman
Hi Barry, What is your email address? Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Barry Connor via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:16 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Eno - 4 Burner Cooker and Grill - FOR SALE #stove
We are completing our full conversion to Lithium batteries next week on the Amel Caraibe dock at Le Marin, Martinique. Our Eno oven cooker is being replaced with the Italian made Horizon 3 Electric Oven with Induction Cooktop.
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Re: Eno - 4 Burner Cooker and Grill - FOR SALE
#stove
Alan Grayson
Hi Barry, I would love to get your spare parts especially the switches as a previous owner melted a couple of ours. Could you send me a picture of the spares so I can make sure they are the same.
Regards
Alan Grayson
SM 406 Ora Pai
Ft Lauderdale
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> on behalf of Barry Connor via groups.io <connor_barry@...>
Sent: Thursday, 14 January 2021 1:16 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Eno - 4 Burner Cooker and Grill - FOR SALE #stove We are completing our full conversion to Lithium batteries next week on the Amel Caraibe dock at Le Marin, Martinique. Our Eno oven cooker is being replaced with the Italian made Horizon 3 Electric Oven with Induction Cooktop.
The Eno oven cooker is in perfect working condition and has had very little use. If any Amel owner could use this oven, make us an offer. Have arranged with the Amel Caraibe Le Marin workshop to store this oven for an Amel owner if needed. I have spare parts - jets, switches etc. Also have 3 x 23.5 litre fibre glass (can visually see the gas level) LPG bottles which fit securely in the gas locker. I have many different Countries connectors to self refill these bottles. Please make us an offer if any Amel owner could use this gear. Best Regards Barry and Penny "SV Lady Penelope II" Amel 54. #17 Le Marin, Martinique
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Re: Standing rigging
Billy Newport
I asked her for a quote for the parts to replace the standing on my Amel 55 and it was about 12k euros.
FYI
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Re: ULTRA anchor 45KG or 35KG
Martin Birkhoff
Hello Jarek, SV Mago del Sur - 54 # 40
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Re: Replacing C Drive mounts while boat is in the water.
Hi Ian - glad it all worked out and appreciate the feedback.
Craig -- SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: ULTRA anchor 45KG or 35KG
Hello Martin,
how long do you have chromox from Walder Germany? Any issues with rust especially in tropical waters? Jarek Zemlo NOA BLUE
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Re: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Sat, 01/16/2021 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP
#cal-reminder
The zoom meeting will be available on YouTube after the meeting to view at any time. Just click on the following link.
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 7:20 PM eric freedman <kimberlite@...> wrote:
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Eno - 4 Burner Cooker and Grill - FOR SALE
#stove
We are completing our full conversion to Lithium batteries next week on the Amel Caraibe dock at Le Marin, Martinique. Our Eno oven cooker is being replaced with the Italian made Horizon 3 Electric Oven with Induction Cooktop.
The Eno oven cooker is in perfect working condition and has had very little use. If any Amel owner could use this oven, make us an offer. Have arranged with the Amel Caraibe Le Marin workshop to store this oven for an Amel owner if needed. I have spare parts - jets, switches etc. Also have 3 x 23.5 litre fibre glass (can visually see the gas level) LPG bottles which fit securely in the gas locker. I have many different Countries connectors to self refill these bottles. Please make us an offer if any Amel owner could use this gear. Best Regards Barry and Penny "SV Lady Penelope II" Amel 54. #17 Le Marin, Martinique
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Re: ULTRA anchor 45KG or 35KG
Martin Birkhoff
I forgot to mention, upt to know we have no experience with the Ultra.
Martin SV Mago del Sur 54 # 40
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Re: ULTRA anchor 45KG or 35KG
Martin Birkhoff
Hallo Jarek,
we have the 45 kg Ultra connected to a chain 13 mm, steel material code 1.4462 (Duplex or Cromox), working load 88.5 kN, breaking load 177 kN made by Ketten-Wälder, Germany. Connector is the original Ultra Flip Swivel by Ultra Marine. The original chain 10 mm , same material, is fixed to an 30 kg Bügel anchor both made by WASI, connector is an WASI powerball. We made best experiences with the latter system on our circumnavigation done with a 12 m aluminum sloop. Except one little aspect: the tiny little grub screws of these power-balls are made of stainless steel 1.4401 (316) meaning the threads of these screws corrode in warm water. You have to have a look on them and change them from time to time. Martin SV Mago del Sur 54 # 40
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Re: ULTRA anchor 45KG or 35KG
Hello again. I have the WASI 10 mm that came with the boat, but I am planning to change it for the Cromox 10 mm. since I want 100 m. rather than the 70 that I currently have. Victor
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Re: ULTRA anchor 45KG or 35KG
Thank you all for information and advice. Could you share what type of chain (size, material, break load) you use for 45KG and 35KG. I like to keep 8mm but go for stronger 8mm G70 with 70KN break load (less weight on the bow)
Look forward to your reply Jarek Zemlo NOA BLUE AMEL SM#201
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Re: Replacing C Drive mounts while boat is in the water.
Craig forgot to mention that there is a ring fixed directly above the C Drive (he told me that) which is there to lift the C Drive or take its weight should you need to do so. You may have to dig around in the soundproofing to find it. I have just finished checking my mountings and realigning everything. I found a few photos of Craig removing the C Drive from the boat and one showed how he put a rope round the C Drive cross beam to hoist it. you may feel more comfortable taking the weight off the C Drive mounting using this system.
Ian Ocean Hobo SN 96 PS. To Craig. Thanks for all your help this summer about realignment.. I got home and bought a chain lift to have a proper go at the job. I had the Amel tool made, but on my Santorin the shaft coupling worked equally well. The coupling systems seem to be different on some of the SMs, especially with the shaft brake. One thing I found when double checking the alignment, was to reassemble the shaft coupling and Vetus coupling with shorter (4" ) bolts. I could then slide the whole assembly on the drive shaft, across the empty space where the alternator pulley would normally be and found the ends of the Vetus bolts slide neatly into the gearbox holes.
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Re: Replacing C Drive mounts while boat is in the water.
eric freedman
The Vetus coupling shown in those photos is the one from Vetus. It is not the one that is mounted on the Amel’s. Amel machines the coupling shown in the photo to fit their engines. The one in the photo will not work. You need to get the correct one only from Amel. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mark McGovern
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 10:42 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Replacing C Drive mounts while boat is in the water.
Paul,
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Re: Replacing C Drive mounts while boat is in the water.
Paul,
Changing the C-Drive mounts is quite straightforward and pretty much exactly as Craig describes. See the picture below: Remove the nuts circled in Red above from the mounting studs. Then remove the mounting stud from each C-Drive mount. Then remove the bolts circled in Yellow that bolt the C-drive mount to the engine mounting frame. Once you do that you can slide the old C-Drive mounts out from under the mounting frame and slide the new ones in. As I understand it, the mounts should be adjusted so they are just barely starting to support the weight of C-Drive. If you crank them up too much you will put strain on the rubber hose that is keeping the water out of the boat. To relieve any strain, you can loosen the top two hose clamps on the large rubber hose (water will come in) and then tighten them back up. All of the documents that I uploaded to the old Yahoo forums were transferred here when we moved off Yahoo so they are here somewhere. In order to make it easier to find, I just created a new Photo Album called Engine to C-Drive Alignment here: https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/album?id=259361 -- Mark McGovern SM #440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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Added album Engine to C-Drive Alignment
#photo-notice
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <noreply@...>
Mark McGovern added the album Engine to C-Drive Alignment: Photos of Engine to C-Drive Information, Tools and Methods
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Re: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Sat, 01/16/2021 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP
#cal-reminder
eric freedman
Sorry, I am headed off to the boat on the 16th. I will not be able to join. Fair Winds Eric Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io]
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:00 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [Special] [AmelYachtOwners] An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute - Sat, 01/16/2021 20:00-21:00, Please RSVP #cal-reminder
Reminder: An Amel Survey by Olivier Beaute When: Saturday, 16 January 2021, 20:00 to 21:00, (GMT+00:00) UTC Where:From La Rochelle, France An RSVP is requested. Click here to RSVP Organizer: Bill Rouse brouse@... Description: All,
It is my great pleasure to announce that Olivier Beaute will present at our first ZOOM Meeting of 2021. It will be held on 16 January 2021 20:00 to 21:00 UTC. Details:
Many members of the Amel Yacht Owners Group trained on their new Amels with Olivier in La Rochelle. Many of us relied on Olivier as the manager of Amel SAV. And, a substantial number of our Group have used Olivier's surveys when purchasing their pre-owned Amels. As most of you know, after a long and successful career with Amel, Olivier Beaute went into the survey business and established ATLANTIC YACHT SURVEY.
The topic of Olivier's ZOOM Meeting will be "An Amel Survey." His presentation will last about 30 minutes with 30 minutes for questions. Tilo Peters will monitor, queue, and ask Olivier your texted questions.
This meeting will be very good for all of our members.
I suspect that this meeting may book to capacity and urge you to register soon. Topic: AYOG January Gathering: An Amel Survey Time: Jan 16, 2021 08:00 PM (20:00) GMT
Join Zoom Meeting
Meeting ID: 821 2513 7503
Join by Skype for Business
YouTube Livestream: https://youtu.be/zYika5HEkZE
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Re: Replacing C Drive mounts while boat is in the water.
Hi Paul,
It's been a while but as I recall you can disassemble the frame members around the "C" drive upper and then easily slip in the new mounts. The "C" drive is happy to sit by itself on its "trumpet" and the big rubber hose while you do this. Then adjust the mounts to "share the load" with the trumpet and retain alignment with the transmission output shaft. You could loosen the clamps on the hose to be sure it seats happily, but will likely be back in exactly the same orientation. Can certainly be done in the water. Good fun, Craig, SN68 Sangaris, Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
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Re: Unknown Part found
#spares
amelforme
Hi Ruedi. The wooden part is a puzzle, have never seen anything like it on any of the Amels I have ever been on. Not big enough for a spare emergency tiller cabin top plug .
The nut and locking tab washer are for the fixed pitch propellor.
All the best, Joel
JOEL F. POTTER ~ CRUISING YACHT SPECIALIST, L.L.C. The Experienced AMEL Guy UNSURPASSED AMEL MARKETING EXPERIENCE AND PRODUCT KNOWLEDGE Office 954-462-5869 Cell 954-812-2485
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2021 3:38 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Unknown Part found #spares
Hello Amelians
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Re: Replacing C Drive mounts while boat is in the water.
Paul Guenette
I just found this post from Mark McGovern, posted 10/07/18, with information from Oliver Beaute
The part that refers to the C-Drive mounts I have made the text BOLD. It looks like Mark posted pictures to the old Yahoo site but I have not been able to locate them yet on this site. https://amelyachtowners.groups.io/g/main/topic/29770137#42506 10/07/18 #42520
Hello Mark,
this is something you probably can do, considering your "automotive" background.
The main thing is to be meticulous.
First about your questions: -You don't absolutely need to replace the VETUS coupling if it is in good condition: -the steel rods that hold the rubber "donuts" must not have moved from the steel hub, if so, replace the coupling -the holes for the bolts should not be damaged (ovalized), otherwise, replace the coupling However, you will probably need to replace the donuts, easy to buy from VETUS.
If you need to replace the whole VETUS coupling, it is a standard coupling from VETUS, for a 35mm diameter shaft, with a key way for the C-drive input shaft BUT AMEL has the aluminium part machined in order it "enters" the gear-box flange. You will see this when the gear-box is disconnected from the coupling (and if you compare with your new VETUS coupling).
Before touching the tools, make pictures and take notes (measurements of all the fittings, position of the nuts on the rubber mounts, position of the engine on the steel cradle, position of the shaft brake disc, etc...).
Start with disconnecting the hoses that could prevent you from moving the engine backwards on its cradle.
Then undo the coupling bolts and the engine steel supports' bolts (attaching the engine on the steel cradle).
Then move the engine backwards enough to remove the coupling bolts.
Undo the C-drive bolts of its rubber mounts.
Remove these mounts.
The C-drive will be held by the big rubber sleeve at the bottom. Lift the engine just enough to be able to lift the cradle and remove and replace the YANMAR mounts with their lower nut set approximately like the previous ones were. Re-install the C-drive mounts. Then comes the alignment process.
AMEL uses a tool which is a steel coupling machined so that its aft side "enters" the gear-box flange (see pictures and drawing). You can also pre-install the new coupling and adjust the position of the mounts.
First bring the engine forward and make sure the coupling is centered with the gear-box flange, and can enter the gap in the flange.
Then move the engine a little bit backwards and check that the gap between the flange and the aft side of the coupler is even all around the circumference. To adjust this, you need "thickness wedges" (used in the automotive industry) and play with the rubber mounts nuts to make the gap even.
Then bring the engine forward and tighten the bolts on the cradle and on the mounts.
The advantage of using the tool AMEL uses is that it is easier to install while checking the gaps. If you need to make one, here's a drawing of the alignment tool for a YANMAR 4JH3-HTE. The inside diameter (C-drive input shaft) is 35 mm. The outside diameter is 100 mm. The diameter of the part that enters the gear-box flange cylindric gap is 62.8 mm, thickness 3 mm.
You should use a VETUS fixed coupling for 35mm shafts, then have it machined to make the 62.8mm "plug" and drilled for the four bolts that should match the flange holes.
I think AMEL still sells the VETUS machined coupling, you will ask Maud when she's back from holidays.
Hope this is clear enough.
Best regards.
Olivier BEAUTE / ATLANTIC YACHT SURVEY 10 allée du Bout dehors 17000 LA ROCHELLE Tel: +33 546 522 147 Mob: +33 674 028 243 http://atlanticyachtsurvey.com
Now you see why I recommend Olivier to everyone. Hope this helps you. Mark McGovern SM 440 Cara Deale, MD USA
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