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Re: Jib Halyard Sheave

Duane Siegfri
 

Eric,

I have not written Maude yet.  I was hoping Mark might be able to inform me of the sizes.  If Mark doesn't have the information, then I'll probably just go up and retrieve the sheaves and axle, bring them down and measure them.  There don't seem to be that many sizes of sheaves, so I may have to order from Maude anyway.

That's not so high on my priority list right now though.  I'm about 70% of the way through an all new electronics suite, although right now I'm sitting in a hotel room while the boat is being fumigated.  We have (hopefully "had") a rat on board and after trying to trap him for a month with every conceivable bait we finally went nuclear with fumigation.

Duane
Wanderer, SM#477



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2nd Forestay on Super Maramu

Paul Osterberg
 

Hello!

I’m curious how do you without a stay sail go upwind in true wind exceeding 25 knots, with occasional gusts of +30 knots, in reasonable comfort. We go comfortable up wind in 20 knots apparent wind with the full Genoa, but if gusts exceeding 24 knots apparent we are definitely over canvased. therefore we start to furl just before 20 knots apparent wind. When we encounter apparent wind of 30 knots we found very poor up wind performance with the Genoa heavily furled and VMG is very poor.

.

 

Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2nd Forestay on Super Maramu

James Alton
 

Hi All,

   When first bought my Amel, I was thinking that I might add a staysail.  I liked the idea of having the smaller sail ready to use in higher winds as opposed to using a deeply reefed genoa.  Now that I have just two seasons on my boat, I have pretty much decided to keep the boat as designed.  While a staysail is a great addition to a sloop with respect to balance, the ketch rig really does not need the staysail for balance.  What I have done in place of a staysail is to have a working jib with a foam luff made for my boat which will set on the genoa furler.  This will be for the few  passages that would be to windward or strong winds were expected.  The boat is a joy to tack with the working jib.   For the rest  (most all of the time)  of the time, the original rig with the 150 Genoa seems like the best overall solution.   Those on the board that have advised newbies to sail their Amel as designed for at least a year are giving out some good advice IMO.  So far the only modifications that I have made to my boat are to undo the previous owners modifications.  (grin)

Best,

James

SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Apr 12, 2018, at 1:59 PM, Ian & Judy ianjudyjenkins@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Eric , 

We have sailed nearly 60,000 miles in our SM , including two seasons in the Beagle channel and a rounding of Cape Horn . 
 We have sailed in the south Atlantic in 60 knots . 

We never felt the absence of a staysail . 

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen , SM 302, 
Preveza , Greece 


On 12 Apr 2018, at 20:38, eric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Amel-Owners!


For our bluewater-trip we are planning to install a 2nd forestay on our Super Maramu for strong conditions.


We are looking for recommendations and good solutions!? Where can we install it? Any mount-points? How was this made on your boat?

Our ship is from 1989, Nr. 12




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2nd Forestay on Super Maramu

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon Eric,

The addition of a Staysail comes often on the forum.

My boat came with one and I wish it was removable.

Here are pictures of how mine was attached.
http://www.nikimat.com/staysail.html
It was “trough” the deck and attached “to” the hull (as opposed to attached “to” the deck which would cause stress then eventually damages).
So if you really want to add one, I would definitely suggest going through the deck and attach it to the hull.

Therefore, as I first mentioned, it should be removable as it is a pain to tack with the staysail on the way.
You have to furl in the Genoa i order to tack and you are going to use the Genoa a lot more than the stay sail.

I think Heinz on Quetzal (SM2K #292) has a brilliant solution, as his “inner forestay” was removable and store near the shroud out of the way.
Another thing I like on Heinz’s vessel is that the inner reaches almost the top (as opposed a the 2nd spreader on my boat), so this way he doesn’t have to use running back stay.

Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Thu, 4/12/18, eric@d-signer.de [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2nd Forestay on Super Maramu
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, April 12, 2018, 12:37 PM


 









Hi Amel-Owners!
For our bluewater-trip we are planning
to install a 2nd forestay on our Super Maramu for strong
conditions.
We are looking for
recommendations and good solutions!? Where can we install
it? Any mount-points? How was this made on your
boat?Our ship is from 1989, Nr. 12


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] 2nd Forestay on Super Maramu

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Eric , 
We have sailed nearly 60,000 miles in our SM , including two seasons in the Beagle channel and a rounding of Cape Horn . 
 We have sailed in the south Atlantic in 60 knots . 

We never felt the absence of a staysail . 

Ian and Judy, Pen Azen , SM 302, 
Preveza , Greece 


On 12 Apr 2018, at 20:38, eric@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Hi Amel-Owners!


For our bluewater-trip we are planning to install a 2nd forestay on our Super Maramu for strong conditions.


We are looking for recommendations and good solutions!? Where can we install it? Any mount-points? How was this made on your boat?

Our ship is from 1989, Nr. 12


2nd Forestay on Super Maramu

Eric Merten
 

Hi Amel-Owners!


For our bluewater-trip we are planning to install a 2nd forestay on our Super Maramu for strong conditions.


We are looking for recommendations and good solutions!? Where can we install it? Any mount-points? How was this made on your boat?

Our ship is from 1989, Nr. 12


Re: Onan MDKD Starting Problems

greatketch@...
 

Woody,

I don't have the detailed part number for you, but I can give a clue about what's going on...

These are dual coil solenoids.  They have one large, powerful, high current coil that pulls the solenoid in to it's "activated" position, and a smaller, low power coil, that holds it there.  If the solenoid does not, or can not,  fully activate to its designed position when energized, the large coil stays powered up, trying to move the actuator.  It is not at all designed for continuous duty, and will quickly over heat--as you saw.

Before installing the new solenoid, you'll need to find out WHY the old one wasn't fully actuating.  It is possible that the problem is in the solenoid itself, and a new one will simply fix the problem.  But...if the movement restriction is in the parts the solenoid is trying to move, then the new one will likely burn up on first use...

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Guana Cay, Abacos, Bahamas


Re: Amel logo

SV Perigee
 

Hi All,

We lowered our main this morning, and measured the horizontal length of our AMEL logo at 100cm, from the tip of the arrow to the rear-most of the feathers.

Yours aye,

David
Perigee, SM#396
St Maarten
  Prepping for replacement of
     our standing rigging


Onan MDKD Starting Problems

alanwood123@...
 

Having coaxed this old gen back to life it's died on me again :/  


Had an electrician bypass the galley switch then the starter solenoid began overheating.  It didn't seem to reach it's full 'pull' so I disconnected it and stopped the generator via the red stop lever).   


Then the solenoid/relay (see pic) began overheating (red hot and smoking after 20 mins) even when gen was only switched on and not even operating.


Now it won't start at all.. even with batteries fully charged from shore power. 


Despite looking in several Onan parts catalogues I can't seem to identify this particular solenoid/relay (if that's what it is - it's got 12v L95 embossed on it.)


Anyone any idea what's going on and/or can identify a part number for this solenoid/relay?  The closest I can seem to find is 307-1617 (K11 Solenoid/Relay) but it looks nothing like it. 


Many Thanks


Woody

#189 SV Haddock


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Comment on an older AMEL that lost it’s ig in a series of squalls

Brent Cameron
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chain to rode. How do you ?

JOHN HAYES
 

Sure should have been a snig line as we call them here

It's a stainless hook that fits between two chain links spliced on to a rope about 20 mm diameter about 5 el m long   

We are probably talking abd and out the same thing

At sea we  clip into the chain and clear on the big cleat behind the lofrans  at anchor as clip on to the chain under the bow And attach to one of the cleats on the gunnel at the bow so if carries the weight of the chain over the bow thus avoiding chain noise at anchor 

John Hayes

 Nga waka SN 17

Wellington  

On Thu, 12 Apr 2018, 15:21 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners], <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

John,

 

Can you explain the last line please. Are you talking about a snubber line?

 

Finally we use a snug chain as a security back up and also at anchor so the boat swings on rope across the bow fair lead

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 4:56 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Chain to rode. How do you ?

 

 

My Santorin (Nga Waka) is 1991 and 46 feet so I guess similar to your vessel 

 

On purchase the boat was down in the bow, it transpired that the drain hole was full of dirt and had blocked up!   Draining the locker produced a lift

 

The chain was very rusty so I took it out and replaced it with 120 m of 10 mm Italian made chain, the best quality I could find in NZ at the time 

 

It and the35 kg anchor held fast through the entrails of 3 tropical cyclones at different locations in NZ’s north islands in the past 2 months

 

In practice 100 m of chain might make more sense as the chain is inclined to accumulate under the lofrans in the chain locker, blocking the flow which then necessitates going below removing the inspection plate and flattening the chain so the remainder can drop in

 

Mindful of the condition of the locker I inherited we block the chain and hole under the lofrans with plasticine or modelling clay before heading to sea

 

We also find that removing the inspection port allows the locker and chain to dry

 

Finally we use a snug chain as a security back up and also at anchor so the boat swings on rope across the bow fair lead 

 

Apologies if I’m telling you to suck eggs

 

Best 

 

John Hayes 

 

WELLINGTON NZ

 

 

 

 


On 10/04/2018, at 7:39 PM, smiles bernard smilesbernard@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello fellow Amelians

Many thanks to all those on the forum who have given their thoughts and experience on anchoring options for my boat
(Currently 50m 12mm chain on older 46ft Maramu and I’m wondering about either adding more length in chain or rode)

I’d really like to hear from those with chain plus rode extension solutions.

what windlass do you have and how do you swap from chain to rode on the windlass when raising and lowering the anchor ?

I spoke to the Lofrans distributor in the uk which ended up raising more questions for me.

He was clear to point out that my Tigres is an all chain windlass the rope capstan is only for independent use and not setup to the allow transfer from chain to rope sections.
He said the chain stripper would cause problems with the rode.
If I want a chain plus rode solution I would need a different windlass.

Any experience most welcome as I’ve only ever had an all chain solution before.

Many thanks

Miles


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] satellite service providers

karkauai
 

Thanks again Steve and Mark. I've been very happy with my Iridium phone, even more so since I added a dedicated permanent antenna.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] satellite service providers

James Cromie
 

Thanks Mark - It’s too bad we didn’t get to catch up more while you were in Martinique. 
Thanks to everyone else for your ongoing thoughtful responses to the various questions posed.

This forum is a real gem. 

-james

On Apr 9, 2018, at 5:28 PM, 'Mark Erdos' mcerdos@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


James,

 

We use the company below. I really do not know how they compare to other companies since this is the only Sat-Phone company we have used. We find them very easy to do business with. Everything we do is one line or via email. They are very responsive. 

 

Network Innovations

4950 West Prospect Road

Fort Lauderdale, FL 33309

954-973-3100

954-973-4800

Web: http://www.networkinv.com

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...] 
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 3:59 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] satellite service providers

 

  

Hello Amel owners - 

 

This is a off-topic for Amel-specific issues, but I'd like to ask for recommendations regarding service providers for satellite communication.  

I have used BlueCosmo for my Iridium Go, and I have been dissatisfied with the service.  I would not use this provider in the future.  



I appreciate the input of anyone willing to give some advice!



James

Soteria SM347

 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] satellite service providers

Mark Garver
 

Kent,

If you have the Iridium Extreme, it also has the dedicated SOS button that provides all of the additional information in my previous reply to Bill Kinney. Like the Go! you still have to activate the SOS button on the Extreme, but when in an emergency it is quite simple to simply press the button and hit the life raft. With both the Go! and the Extreme, an attempt will be made via a voice call to your device and text message as well. With the Go! a connected cell phone is required, but with the Extreme as soon as you hit SOS, the message is sent, then the phone also dials out. If for any reason the connection fails, the IERCC will immediately call the device back in an attempt to make contact, all while getting the responsible SAR agency heading to your location.

Hope that helps!

Mark

SM105 S/V It's Good

On Apr 11, 2018, at 01:27 PM, "Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

 



Actually Kent, it’s not difficult at all. We keep our phones sitting on the nav station where our Go is on its mount, and right next to EPIRB #2 (#1 is already in ditch bag). We would just grab the EPIRB, GO, both phones, and toss them in the ditch bag on the way out.. If you don’t have the 10 seconds it requires to do that, I’m guessing you are having such a bad day, it won’t matter anyway.. 

We really like the unlimited data, texting, and 150 minutes of talk time a month we get at a very reasonable cost. On our recently completed 5000 mile passage to Hawaii, it worked flawlessly, as it has for the previous 3 years. It is really nice to collect lots of weather data twice a day, call Mom and Dad once in a while to reassure them we are fine, txt with friends to pass the time on watch, and not worry about how much data you are using. 

Hope you guys are doing well, and sailing in some beautiful part of the world. 

Aloha,

Steve
Aloha SM 72
KoOlina, Hawaii

On Apr 11, 2018, at 03:06, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 


Thanks Mark & Bill.  I guess if I had to abandon ship and grabbed my Iridium phone, I could call for help.  Harder if you have to have a phone too.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] satellite service providers

Mark Garver
 

Bill,

Good additional information. You do have to register the IridiumGo for the SOS button to go to the group in Texas that monitors SEND devices, who then makes contact with the appropriate Rescue Coordination Center (RCC) or other official SAR agency no matter where you are in the world. That group has prosecuted well over 7,000 rescues in nearly 170 countries from a variety of Satellite Emergency Notification Devices (SEND) as defined by the Radio Technical Commission for Maritime Services (RTCM). The group participates with RCC's around the world and annually hosts a variety of RCC's and other agencies to their facilities in Texas, north of Houston. What is great is that the SOS monitoring service is FREE, the cost of SOS monitoring and SAR coordination is covered by Iridium who pays the group in Texas for the monitoring.

Besides SOS, the company has a sister company that provides SAR memberships and MEDEVAC memberships, and many cruisers utilized the additional membership benefits, such as Rebecca on SV Brickhouse (not an AMEL lol). For instance, the SAR comes in various levels that reimburse the member for out of pocket SAR cots, up to $100k USD. The MEDEVAC is international and covers quite a bit for not a lot of money.

As Bill indicated, the device does have a dedicated SOS button so you can activate it directly from the device itself and your coordinates and other information such as Emergency Contacts, Vessel Type, Vessel Manufacturer, Hull Color, Length, EPIRB registration number, etc. are transmitted immediately to the International Emergency Rescue Coordination Center (IERCC), who immediately contact the responsible search and rescue (SAR) authority, and attempt two-way communication with you if you have your tablet or phone connected to the IridiumGO! to collect additional information about the nature of your emergency.

Lastly, not only is it great for both non-emergency communications and emergency communications, it pairs with my PredictWind Pro, gives me access to emails, other weather services, etc. In my mind it is a must have for a cruising boat, even if you only use the non-emergency features of the device.

Mark

S/V It's Good
SM105 S/V It's Good
Currently Gloucester, VA

On Apr 11, 2018, at 03:26 PM, "greatketch@... [amelyachtowners]" wrote:

 

And, there's more!


The IridiumGo also has a dedicated SOS function.  Even if you did not have access to a phone or tablet the IridiumGo on its own can send a distress call.  Without another device, you would not have two way communication, but you WOULD have a SOS message with location and with confirmation sent that would backup the EPIRB signal with the SAR authorities.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Guana Cay, Abacos, Bahamas



Comment on an older AMEL that lost it’s rig in a series of squalls

SV Perigee
 

Greetings all,

PERIGEE was the SM that went to the assistance of the circa late-70s sloop-rigged AMEL (we thought it was an EURO, but now we're not really sure), that lost the top half of it's mast about 350nm north of Antigua in November 2017.  [Reference made by Brent Cameron: Topic "Replacing standing rigging", 03-Jan'18]

The seas in the preceding 24 hours were less then 2m, sustained winds less than 15kt.  Passing squalls bringing higher gusts +10-15kt with confused seas, but not violent.  The evening prior, we saw distant lightning in the vicinity of were the dis-masted vessel would likely have been, but the conditions we experienced were not at all adverse.

The single-handing owner later reported that a shackle at the masthead had lost it's pin, bringing down the stay and then, in a squall, the mast.  The vessel received further fuel from other passers-by, and made it to it's original destination of St Maarten, where we met him and heard more detail.  The mast had by that time been re-built, and the owner has since left in his AMEL to sail the seas.

Hardy boat, hardy owner.

I hope that this update provides some clarity on the matter.

Fair winds,

David
Perigee, SM#396
St Maarten



 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] satellite service providers

greatketch@...
 

And, there's more!

The IridiumGo also has a dedicated SOS function.  Even if you did not have access to a phone or tablet the IridiumGo on its own can send a distress call.  Without another device, you would not have two way communication, but you WOULD have a SOS message with location and with confirmation sent that would backup the EPIRB signal with the SAR authorities.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Great Guana Cay, Abacos, Bahamas


Victron Auto Isolation Transformer

greatketch@...
 

Has anybody evaluated (or installed) the Victron auto isolation transfomer?

https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-Isolation-Transformers-EN.pdf


I hadn't seriously looked at an isolation transformer for our Amel SM before, mostly because when I last looked at them the prices and complexity to allow multivoltage input put me off.  Since we don't spend much time plugged into marinas, I hadn't put it as a high priority.


The Victron looks like it was designed for an AMEL...  It can take EITHER 110V/32amp or 220V/16 amp input, selecting between them automatically, and produce 220V/16amp output (or 110V if you wanted..), and all for less than US$1000...  That, and the entire installation and operation manual is only 10 pages long.


Certainly the specs look great, and having a real isolation transformer is a plus over a galvanic isolator. And having wiring on the boat working exactly as designed even when plugged into 110V is a extra benefit.


It almost sounds like one of those "too good to be true" things, but Victron stuff has been top shelf in my experience so far...


Bill Kinney

SM160, Harmonie

Great Guana Cay, Abacos, Bahamas




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] satellite service providers

Porter McRoberts
 

Completely agree Steve. 
We have exactly the same and now working great with a good external antenna connection. 
Porter 
Ibis54-152

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Apr 11, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Actually Kent, it’s not difficult at all. We keep our phones sitting on the nav station where our Go is on its mount, and right next to EPIRB #2 (#1 is already in ditch bag). We would just grab the EPIRB, GO, both phones, and toss them in the ditch bag on the way out.. If you don’t have the 10 seconds it requires to do that, I’m guessing you are having such a bad day, it won’t matter anyway.. 

We really like the unlimited data, texting, and 150 minutes of talk time a month we get at a very reasonable cost. On our recently completed 5000 mile passage to Hawaii, it worked flawlessly, as it has for the previous 3 years. It is really nice to collect lots of weather data twice a day, call Mom and Dad once in a while to reassure them we are fine, txt with friends to pass the time on watch, and not worry about how much data you are using. 

Hope you guys are doing well, and sailing in some beautiful part of the world. 

Aloha,

Steve
Aloha SM 72
KoOlina, Hawaii

On Apr 11, 2018, at 03:06, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Mark & Bill.  I guess if I had to abandon ship and grabbed my Iridium phone, I could call for help.  Harder if you have to have a phone too.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] satellite service providers

Stephen Davis
 

Actually Kent, it’s not difficult at all. We keep our phones sitting on the nav station where our Go is on its mount, and right next to EPIRB #2 (#1 is already in ditch bag). We would just grab the EPIRB, GO, both phones, and toss them in the ditch bag on the way out. If you don’t have the 10 seconds it requires to do that, I’m guessing you are having such a bad day, it won’t matter anyway. 

We really like the unlimited data, texting, and 150 minutes of talk time a month we get at a very reasonable cost. On our recently completed 5000 mile passage to Hawaii, it worked flawlessly, as it has for the previous 3 years. It is really nice to collect lots of weather data twice a day, call Mom and Dad once in a while to reassure them we are fine, txt with friends to pass the time on watch, and not worry about how much data you are using. 

Hope you guys are doing well, and sailing in some beautiful part of the world. 

Aloha,

Steve
Aloha SM 72
KoOlina, Hawaii

On Apr 11, 2018, at 03:06, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Mark & Bill.  I guess if I had to abandon ship and grabbed my Iridium phone, I could call for help.  Harder if you have to have a phone too.

Kent
S/V Kristy
SM 243