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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Clogged anchor wash pipe

eric freedman
 

Thomas,

I am very surprised you have such problems on such a new boat.

When you are away from the boat for any length of time do you run fresh water through, the genset, engine, Ac, the anchor wash, and the 2 heads?

 

Possibly you can use a garden hose and a vane pump and circulate barnacle buster through the anchor wash for a while and see what happens.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:35 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Clogged anchor wash pipe

 

 

Hi Eric, 

 

Yes i did, from the pump end. Interestingly I get quite a flow out from the anchor end, but when I stop, I get about 5 litres back out of the pump end. So whatever is in there is stuck pretty hard. I'll try a bit more pressure. 

 

I'm guessing the rest of the raw water circuit is probably quite clogged too... I got the engine heat exchangers cleaned recently but the fridges circuit and AC circuit will need attention.

 

 

Thanks for the tip!

 

 

Thomas

 

 

On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 at 21:22, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Thomas,

Did you try disconnecting the hose from the pump and using dock water to blow out the pipe?

I would also do the same at the forward locker.

 

If not, if you have a scuba tank, you can purchase a nozzle that hooks up to the hose for a BC. That will give you 100 psi+ to clear the hose. It is also very useful to blow things off the engine etc.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Clogged anchor wash pipe

 

 

Hi all,

 

Today's maintenance monday task was troubleshooting the anchor wash. 

 

It turns out the pipe is clogged. Using the dock mains pressure lets water through but the pump is not beefy enough to do anything useful. Neither is mouth-blowing into the pipe.

 

Any advice on unclogging it? Mechanical or chemical (Barnacle Buster any good?)..

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

Thomas 

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Fort de France, Martinique  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Clogged anchor wash pipe

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Eric, 

Yes i did, from the pump end. Interestingly I get quite a flow out from the anchor end, but when I stop, I get about 5 litres back out of the pump end. So whatever is in there is stuck pretty hard. I'll try a bit more pressure. 

I'm guessing the rest of the raw water circuit is probably quite clogged too... I got the engine heat exchangers cleaned recently but the fridges circuit and AC circuit will need attention.


Thanks for the tip!


Thomas


On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 at 21:22, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Thomas,

Did you try disconnecting the hose from the pump and using dock water to blow out the pipe?

I would also do the same at the forward locker.

 

If not, if you have a scuba tank, you can purchase a nozzle that hooks up to the hose for a BC. That will give you 100 psi+ to clear the hose. It is also very useful to blow things off the engine etc.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Clogged anchor wash pipe

 

 

Hi all,

 

Today's maintenance monday task was troubleshooting the anchor wash. 

 

It turns out the pipe is clogged. Using the dock mains pressure lets water through but the pump is not beefy enough to do anything useful. Neither is mouth-blowing into the pipe.

 

Any advice on unclogging it? Mechanical or chemical (Barnacle Buster any good?)..

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

Thomas 

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Fort de France, Martinique  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Clogged anchor wash pipe

eric freedman
 

Hi Thomas,

Did you try disconnecting the hose from the pump and using dock water to blow out the pipe?

I would also do the same at the forward locker.

 

If not, if you have a scuba tank, you can purchase a nozzle that hooks up to the hose for a BC. That will give you 100 psi+ to clear the hose. It is also very useful to blow things off the engine etc.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:43 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Clogged anchor wash pipe

 

 

Hi all,

 

Today's maintenance monday task was troubleshooting the anchor wash. 

 

It turns out the pipe is clogged. Using the dock mains pressure lets water through but the pump is not beefy enough to do anything useful. Neither is mouth-blowing into the pipe.

 

Any advice on unclogging it? Mechanical or chemical (Barnacle Buster any good?)..

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

Thomas 

GARULFO

Amel 54 #122

Fort de France, Martinique  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

eric freedman
 

Hi Bill,

Did you receive my winch photos?

I would try squirting PB blaster on the shaft of the motor , it will be messy, but hopefully it will

eventually seep down to the keyway.

 

Where are you attaching the gear puller?

 

Do you have bolts on the bottom of the gearbox?

If so I would try taking the gearbox apart.

 

Did you remove the bolts on the top of the mounting disk that holds the motor to the base plate.

The bolts on the bottom of the disk cannot be removed from the baseplate with the motor in place.

 

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:12 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

 

 

Thanks much for the photos.  They me to visualize what is stuck on what.  Unfortunately, even with a 6,000 pound hydraulic puller left on overnight, the gearbox would not come loose.  The pin from the winch is obviously galvonically seized on the gearbox.  Thanks again for sending the pics.

 

Regards,

Bill Shaproski

S/V Pacific Cool


Clogged anchor wash pipe

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi all,

Today's maintenance monday task was troubleshooting the anchor wash. 

It turns out the pipe is clogged. Using the dock mains pressure lets water through but the pump is not beefy enough to do anything useful. Neither is mouth-blowing into the pipe.

Any advice on unclogging it? Mechanical or chemical (Barnacle Buster any good?).

Thanks in advance


Thomas 
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Fort de France, Martinique  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Dessalator pressure erratic

ya_fohi
 

Eric,

No it didn't. I've since been told by the Dessalator guy in Spain that it was a brass plug that just screws in to block the hole. It's probably in case you want to connect the supply from the other side. The brass has corroded and I just need to replace it.

Cheers,
Paul
Ya Fohi, Amel 54 #98


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Patrick McAneny
 

Isaac,You may be able to feed the tack /bolt rope into the furler's slot below the cutout .That would support the tack from being pulled aft by the outhaul.
Pat
SM#123


-----Original Message-----
From: isaac_02906@... [amelyachtowners]
To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Mon, Mar 12, 2018 3:03 pm
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

 
The luff is tight, but the sail seems to be unacceptably close to the boom when fully raised.  Perhaps better stated, the sail extends below the cutout in the foil where one feeds the bolt rope when hoisting the sail.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mark,

In my experience with at least 40 SMs, the foot of the mainsail is normally about 6" +/- 1" from the boom when the sail head and the halyard are rigged to the swivel correctly. In all cases that I have seen where the foot is not 6" +/- 1" above the boom, it was because either the head or the halyard were rigged wrong. 

If your mainsail is rigged correctly at the head, the halyard is correctly attached to the swivel, and the sail foot is still 1-2" above the boom, I do not have enough knowledge to tell you that performance is impacted, but I do know that Amel did NOT cut the sail to where the foot was 1-2" above the boom. It could be OK...I simply do not know.

I hope that this helps you.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:01 PM, isaac_02906@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The luff is tight, but the sail seems to be unacceptably close to the boom when fully raised.  Perhaps better stated, the sail extends below the cutout in the foil where one feeds the bolt rope when hoisting the sail.




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: new Genoa

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

David,

I think that you agree that the most important thing about a genoa for the SN, SM, 54, 55, & 64 is that the sail fit the downwind pole system, unique to each model.

I have read all of this discussion and I do not believe that I saw mention of that.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Dave Benjamin dave_benjamin@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

None of the genoas in the Amel sailplans are 150%. The overlap percentage is calculated by this equation - LP/J. LP is a line forming a 90 degree angle with the luff and terminating at the clew. Most Amel genoas exceed 160% using the measurements on the factory sailplans. 




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Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Mark Isaac
 

Craig and Pat,  thanks for the info on the Amel way of purposefully rigging short halyards.  I did know that about the main and should have thought to check if the mizzen was the same way before dropping it...lesson learned.

Mark


Re: Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Mark Isaac
 

Thanks Stephanie.


Re: Recommended Sailmaker in The Bahamas?

Mark Isaac
 

The luff is tight, but the sail seems to be unacceptably close to the boom when fully raised.  Perhaps better stated, the sail extends below the cutout in the foil where one feeds the bolt rope when hoisting the sail.


Re: new Genoa

Dave_Benjamin
 

None of the genoas in the Amel sailplans are 150%. The overlap percentage is calculated by this equation - LP/J. LP is a line forming a 90 degree angle with the luff and terminating at the clew. Most Amel genoas exceed 160% using the measurements on the factory sailplans. 


Re: Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

Craig Briggs
 

Just a thought, Bill. Did you repeatedly whack the tensioned puller with a hand sledge hammer? Sometimes that does the trick.
Craig SN68


---In amelyachtowners@..., <pacificcool@...> wrote :

Thanks much for the photos.  They me to visualize what is stuck on what.  Unfortunately, even with a 6,000 pound hydraulic puller left on overnight, the gearbox would not come loose.  The pin from the winch is obviously galvonically seized on the gearbox.  Thanks again for sending the pics.

Regards,
Bill Shaproski
S/V Pacific Cool


Re: Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

pacificcool@...
 

Thanks much for the photos.  They me to visualize what is stuck on what.  Unfortunately, even with a 6,000 pound hydraulic puller left on overnight, the gearbox would not come loose.  The pin from the winch is obviously galvonically seized on the gearbox.  Thanks again for sending the pics.

Regards,
Bill Shaproski
S/V Pacific Cool


Re: Toe rail / Genoa Track Repair

alanwood123@...
 

Thanks for the feedback and advice.. I'll follow up all those suggestions.

Yes, they are SS bolts - my mistake - I think they've been exposed for so long they've developed a powdery coating which makes them look nylon.  

Also noticed on closer inspection and digging that the water penetration seems to have come from a previous repair.. I think the frost we've had in the Med lately has found it's way into the small cracks in the repair and forced it open.. which would explain why it's only just become apparent. 

So, to echo James's question - has anyone had any luck removing the genoa track bolts or is it really a drill out job? Maybe a good dose of WD40?

Woody

SV Haddock  SM #189

Lefkas Greece

https://www.youtube.com/c/mothershipadrift

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Baby on Board and where to go in the Bahamas -

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Eric,

First of all congratulations for little Nolan coming this June !!!

I love the Bahamas.
Just like you I work so internet is important to me.

One of my favorite place is Port Lucaya in Grand Bahama because of the reasonable monthly marina rate, access to groceries and other infrastructure, etc.
In 2014 I spent 4 months in Port Lucaya Marina / Yacht Club and paid $600/month.
In 2015 I spent 3 months in Taino Beach (also in Port Lucaya) which became my favorite and paid $540/month.
Because of their huge pool with a some shallow area, I am certain you, Viki and especially little Nolan will love this place!
I can look for pictures to send you.
The beach 3 minutes walk away from the marina, they are places to walk, lay down, etc.
They also loan you towels for a $10 deposit and you can exchange them as often as you want, which you will realize is a considerable saving on laundry/generator time especially with the little one!.
I used my bicycle to go grocery shopping, but they have a bus going twice a week. In the super market you will find groceries as well as baby supplies.
I can not imagine a better place for you and your family.
Regarding the draft, you will have to wait almost “mid tide” to enter/leave the Bell Channel.
Port Lucaya is only 90 NM from Miami/Fort Lauderdale, so less than a day trip should you need to go. They i also an international airport.

Later in I also suggest you spend 1 months in Great Harbor Cay in the Berry Island. It is an overnight trip from Grand Bahama.
I was there in low season so the price was $540/month, the prices are higher now, but I think you can negotiate and you get a discount with Active Captain.
Surprisingly the internet was the best I have seen in the Bahamas.
There was no issue to enter the channel even at low tide.
The beach was 20 minutes walk from the marina. They loan you bicycle if you don’t have any, the water is clearest I have seen.
There was no real grocery store some come prepared, therefore the fishermen come back every afternoon with 250 to 250 lobsters and sell you “tail only” for $10/lbs. Sailing along the coast is excellent for fishing!

As Nolan grows up (but wait him to be tall enough for all the ride), then a stop in Atlantis is a must. Not sure who will like the place the most Nolan or dad! But it is quite expensive per day. Nassau is an overnight trip from the Berry Island.
There is no worry for the draft. Atlantis is also very protected from Hurricane.

Hope that helps, please feel free to contact me directly if you want pictures of the places.

Enjoy your trip!
Sincerely, Alexandre





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On Sun, 3/11/18, ericmeury@yahoo.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Baby on Board and where to go in the Bahamas -
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2018, 11:18 PM


 









Hello amel family.
Viki and I are expecting (this is
why the boat is on the hard right now) our first little crew
member    
Nolan
(insert middle name)  Meury will be arriving this
June.  
Our plan is
to spend November and December around Stuart Florida as
Nolan will be signed up for infant water survival classes
there.  Then we are thinking of heading the bahamas for a
month and then back to GA where we will keep the boat for
the next hurricane season.
I have two requirements for the
bahamas...
1.  Some place that has access
to mobile internet or awesome wifi as i still have to work m
start up (www.pascalworkflow.com) and my tax
practice.  
2.  Some place that we don't
have to worry about draft (marsh harbor or Georgetown? -
other ideas)

Also would love some Amel specific
or non amel specific for those that have had their baby on
board.
Thanks
again


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

Please contact me: sonsev52 at gmail.

Also please give me your email.

Vladimir
202 258 1916

On Mar 11, 2018 11:18, "Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Yes I do Vladimir,
I also have 1 electric motor and the gear that furl the Genoa.

Sincerely Alexandre

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On Sun, 3/11/18, Vladimir Sonsev sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side Genoa Gearbox
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2018, 2:04 PM




 









Alexandre, 
Do you have a gearbox for main sail
furling for sale?

Vladimir
SM 345
"Life is Goog"
On Mar 10, 2018 12:26,
"Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@...
[amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:















 









Hello Bill,



For information, if you can not have the issue solved, I
have an complete Leewmar 58 electric winch for sale.



Sincerely, Alexandre



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On Sat, 3/10/18, pacificcool@...
[amelyachtowners] com> wrote:



Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Inability To Remove Port Side
Genoa Gearbox

To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.
com

Date: Saturday, March 10, 2018, 1:45 PM





 



















For the past year and a half, Pacific

Cool (SM 141 built in 1995) has had a port side genoa
winch

that works electrically, but is drawing 160 amps versus
30

amp for the starboard winch. Technicians in Cape Town
and

Trinidad tried to remove the gear box with a hydraulic

puller but it would not budge.  Recently, I removed the

motor which drives the gearbox and it seems to be in
good

condition, so I assume its the gearbox which has a

bad bearing or is

really gunked up.  There appear to be four nuts

holding the gearbox to the underside of the winch and a
gear

inserts up into the winch which prevents complete

disassembly of the winch itself.  Two days ago the
winch

stopped working electrically, but I can hear the motor

turning with no movement of the winch.  It still works

manually.  I checked with AMEL in Martinique last year
and

they had no clue what to do.  

At this point it seems the best

thing to do is sell the boat.  But hopefully someone has
a

good idea on what to do.  Any ideas welcome.  I am

currently in Guadeloupe.  

Best

Regards,Bill

ShaproskiS/V Pacific

Cool 







Baby on Board and where to go in the Bahamas -

ericmeury@...
 

Hello amel family.

Viki and I are expecting (this is why the boat is on the hard right now) our first little crew member    

Nolan (insert middle name)  Meury will be arriving this June.  

Our plan is to spend November and December around Stuart Florida as Nolan will be signed up for infant water survival classes there.  Then we are thinking of heading the bahamas for a month and then back to GA where we will keep the boat for the next hurricane season.

I have two requirements for the bahamas...

1.  Some place that has access to mobile internet or awesome wifi as i still have to work m start up (www.pascalworkflow.com) and my tax practice.  

2.  Some place that we don't have to worry about draft (marsh harbor or Georgetown? - other ideas)


Also would love some Amel specific or non amel specific for those that have had their baby on board.

Thanks again



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Toe rail / Genoa Track Repair

James Alton
 

Gary,

   I like your idea of treating the heads of the stainless bolts with the Corrosion X or Boeshield followed by the plastic protective cover and am thinking of adopting that procedure on my Amel.  

   I was wondering if any Amel owners have had luck with removing the genoa track bolts?  It would be great to be able to renew the caulking seal between the bolt and the fibreglass to prevent the entry of salt water which causes this kind of damage.  Even the best caulking tends to break down and lose their seal after 10-15 years.

   One other question.  I have not seen the swelling and rust as shown in the photo on the Maramu’s that I have been aboard to date even thought many of them are a decade or more older than the 1997 SM shown in the photo.  Is this a known problem for the Maramu models as well or is there some difference in the construction?

Best,

James Alton
SV Sueño
Maramu #220
Arbatax,  Italy

On Mar 11, 2018, at 2:04 PM, amelliahona <no_reply@...> wrote:

Hi Woody:  Sorry to see this sort of damage.  I concur with the other post as to the failure mode and repair.  I am not sure what “nylon” screws you are referring to.  The screws that attach the rail to the backing plates are stainless steel (in your case slot head screws, on my SN 335 boat they are SS hex head screws).  I note the missing plastic plugs that help keep water out of these recesses. I find this on many Amel’s that I see.  With them missing seawater pools in those recesses and can lead to the damage you are seeing.    The plugs are available from Amel for cheap, $US  0.20 each.  I order 100 at a time as they fail regularly.  Each recess is a different depth and so the plug needs to be cut with a knife to that precise depth.  Clean each recess with brush & water, use a pick to remove old plastic remnants & collars, Dry everything up, treat with corrosion X or better yet Boeshield (it leaves a waxy residue to help seal).  Use the probe end of a caliper to measure the depth of the recess, lock the caliper & use the sharp point of the caliper to scribe a line in the plastic collar at that exact depth.  Carefully cut off the excess collar.  Insert the plug, press into place.  Avoid hammering into place as that only stress cracks the plastic and leads to premature failure.  A small bit of  Boeshield around the edges will seal it.  With any luck they will last about 5 years in the Caribbean sun.  On an additional note I treat every screw head on both travelers and the main & mizzen outhaul tracks with corrosion X every 3 months or so.  The SS screws against aluminum rails are a set up for dissimilar metal corrosion. 


Gary Silver, original and continuous owner of s/v Liahona, purchased July 1 2001
Amel SM 2000 Hull # 335
PS just did 6 plugs yesterday while hauled out for hurricane repairs here in Fajardo PR