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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Eumenia Dishwasher

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Thanks Alex!


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Eumenia Dishwasher

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Mine was only a capacitor.
But try first to press longer/harder on the button.
If you speak German you can contact the Austrian person, he has spare parts (if you don't speak German, you can use https://translate.google.com therefore sometime the translation are not good. So if you speak 2 languages, ask in each language the same translation to see if it matches...



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On Sun, 3/18/18, clacey9@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Eumenia Dishwasher
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2018, 9:39 AM


 









Sorry meant there is power at the 220v outlet. Any
troubleshooting tips once the dishwasher kick plate is
removed?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Eumenia Dishwasher

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Sorry meant there is power at the 220v outlet. Any troubleshooting tips once the dishwasher kick plate is removed?


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: St Martin

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hello Arno,

I drove by not long ago, and saw a large transient M/V, but I don’t know if they have water/electricity.
They should be ok as a good friend of mine is scheduled to come to refuel on the 26.

I forgot to mention Oyster pond: I doubt they are open nor will be for a while…

Alexandre



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On Sun, 3/18/18, arno.luijten@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: St Martin
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 18, 2018, 8:05 AM


 









Hi Alexandre,
How is the situation in Philipsburg?
Bobby’s Marina working again?
Cheers,
Arno


Re: St Martin

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Alexandre,

How is the situation in Philipsburg? Bobby’s Marina working again?

Cheers,

Arno


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] St Martin

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Martinica,

I will still be here so hope we met!

I have had several Amel that came to visit me (and it has been a pleasure to meet all of them).

Dutch side:
Island Water World had water and electricity, to me that is the best place to go.
IGY Simpson Bay (where I sunk) little space, docks still damaged, no water, no electricity.
IGY Super Yacht dock ok, don’t know about water nor electricity.
Port de Plaisance don’t know about water nor electricity.
Anchoring, many SM/SM2K that came to visit me anchored in the Lagoon without issue.

French side:
Fort St Louis is accepting boats, but no water nor electricity.
Port Royale is dead.
I met 2 Sm owner that anchored on the french side, just after the bridge, but I would not do it. One anchored outside and was fine (except when we had the north swell).

Hope that helps, sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sat, 3/17/18, gtesta23@tin.it [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] St Martin
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 17, 2018, 5:40 PM


 









Hi to all,i m
planning to start from St Martin to Azores next
May.Do you know how  the
update situation at St Martin ( Marina Fort
St.Louis) & Sint Maarten Marinas and anchorages
?Many thanksGiovanni
TESTAsv EUTIKIA
SM2KMartinica


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Eumenia Dishwasher

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning Chuck,

You meant power at the “220 Volt” outlet (of the dishwasher).
On mine, I had to press for a long time the button before it starts.

I hope you don’t have to pull the Eumenia out, but if you need here is the process:
http://www.nikimat.com/dishwasher_access.html
Prior to that you need to remove the Stove:
http://www.nikimat.com/stove_oven_removal.html


Then reverse to put it back:
http://www.nikimat.com/dishwasher_access_back.html
then
http://www.nikimat.com/stove_oven_repose.html

Sincerely, Alexandre




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On Sat, 3/17/18, clacey9@gmail.com [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Eumenia Dishwasher
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 17, 2018, 5:35 PM


 









Hi All,Dishwasher worked
now it doesn't. There is power at the 24v outlet. No
lights on, no activity. Any suggestions before I embark on
pulling out and if I do where to from there. All manuals for
product are weak.
Thx,ChuckJoy SM388


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Whisker pole

JEFFREY KRAUS
 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Whisker pole

webercardio <webercardio@...>
 

Hello Jeffrey,
I was using a 230 sqm Spinnaker and the one Amel pole on our 54 last summer. We  bought the sail for less money on ebay (500 €) old, but I think never or only few times used.  I learnd, that most spinnakers will never be used. The sock for the spinnaker was more expensive (800€).
So I made this investment to see,  if a parasailor ( 10.000 €) whould be an option . I think under 2000€ was worth the test, but parasailor for 10.000€ is not worth.
We sail sometimes genua with pole and free gennaker on the other side. This is good 
If you have enough wind and waves do not make the gennaker flapping. Thats why I am thinking of the second pole. 
I Friend of mine- former owner of Amel 54 =now Garulfo bought an Aluminium tube- same Dimension like the Amel pole, bought the fittings from Amel La Rochelle and had for less money a second pole, which they used more than his new parasailor. The problem with the second pole (6,40 m)is where to store. So the forespar whiskerpole is only 4,2?m. The 54 has in both sides of the mastfoot the place the toggle for the Whiskerpole .
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162









St Martin

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi to all,

i m planning to start from St Martin to Azores next May.

Do you know how  the update situation at St Martin ( Marina Fort St.Louis) & Sint Maarten Marinas and anchorages ?

Many thanks

Giovanni TESTA

sv EUTIKIA SM2K

Martinica


Eumenia Dishwasher

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

Hi All,

Dishwasher worked now it doesn't. There is power at the 24v outlet. No lights on, no activity. Any suggestions before I embark on pulling out and if I do where to from there. All manuals for product are weak.


Thx,

Chuck

Joy SM388


Re: &#92;Generator speed vs frequency

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Eric,
    While you're totally correct as far as you go, you're speaking only of the legacy style generators like you and I have, where, obviously, it's 1500/1800 or 3000/3600 rpm. 
    However, the new ONAN's run at 2400 and 2900 rpm and there are variable speed generators out there. ONAN talks about 2/3 winding's and stuff like that and the variable speeds use magic. 
     If any of us are considering replacements it would certainly be worth some research to update our knowledge and learn about the modern products. 
     For example, a variable speed generator that, by design, always runs at an optimum rpm for whatever load is presented sounds super - plus it seems like it would be at a lower/quieter rpm if its only got a light battery charging load, which many of us may be doing much of the time. The newer ONAN's running at 2400 or 2900 may be at a better spot in the engine's power curve than 1500 or 1800.  Maybe even why ONAN changed the design.
Cheers,
Craig, SN#68 Sangaris


---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

Hi Craig,

The frequency of AC is determined by the

RPM of the genset.

It would not be feasible to change the speed .


Generators consist of an engine directly connected to an alternator to produce electricity. One of the most common ways of changing the output frequency of a generator is to change the rotation speed of the engine.

The two factors are related as per the following formula –
Generator Frequency (f) =
Number of revolutions per minute of the engine (N) * Number of magnetic poles (P) / 120
Conversely, P = 120*f/N

As per the above formulae, a 2-pole generator producing an output frequency of 60 Hz has an engine speed of 3,600 rpm. To change the output frequency to 50 Hz for the same generator configuration, the engine speed needs to be reduced to 3,000 rpm. Similarly, for a 4-pole generator, an engine speed of 1,800 rpm produces output of 60 Hz. Reducing the engine speed to 1,500 rpm yields an output of 50 Hz.

Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 12:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Generator load, carbon buildup, etc.

 

 

Hi Eric,

I googled the spec sheet on your MDKAV and it says it runs at 1500 rpm. It's the newer model that runs at 2900 rpm. I should think a variable speed would be great at it would always present a full load to the engine, regardless of rpm.  Oh well, next boat.

Cheers, Craig



---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

Craig,

My Onan is a MDKAV model and I don’t have the slightest idea how many rpm the 3 cylinder Kubota is running at. However it puts out 220-230 volts at 50 cycles.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternating hot and cold water in showers

philipp.sollberger@...
 

Hi Mohammed,

Thank's a lot for your suggestions. The hot water plumbing route is more restricted than the cold water. This can be a understandable case. I have never thought about it. I will have a look tomorrow and on Monday I will ask also the AMEL guys here in La Rochelle.
First I will examine if the pressure decreased during winter pause in the water tubes. If this would be the case, then I think, I should have the same effect also on all other water taps as in galley, sinks in the bathroom and so one.

Many thanks for all these good suggestions which give me a funny Sunday job. Let's hope, that I will find the solution.

Fair winds,

Philipp  


---In amelyachtowners@..., <mshirloo@...> wrote :

Hello Philipp;
 
I'm not familiar with the exact plumbing on a SM. However, since most plumbing should be similar, I can think of two possibilities:
 
  1. The hot water plumbing route is more restricted than the cold. This could be anywhere in the lines, the water heater, etc. Therefore when the pump is running and you have increased pressure in the water system, there is more pressure in the cold water line than the hot. This would result in more cold water pressure at the shower valve, resulting in colder water.
  2. If the shower valve has been changed to an anti- scald one, the anti-scald mechanism may be failing. I believe this to be less likely.
Keep in my mind that I am not familiar with the SM plumbing and systems in any way. These are just a couple of general suggestions.
 
Respectfully;
Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099


From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 7:00 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: AW: [Amel Yacht Owners] Alternating hot and cold water in showers

 

Hi Philipp

That sounds like you have no pressure on your accumulator tank. Between coldwater pump and hot-water-tank you will find the accumulator tank. You can check the pressure via a valve, like car tires. The recomended pressure you may be find in a tank manual. What cold water pump model do you have?
Fair winds
Peter
Wilson, SM 003, La Rochelle


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Am Samstag, März 17, 2018, 10:05 schrieb philipp.sollberger@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Hi All owners from "old" Super Maramus,

I have the situation, that on my SM #124 I have alternating hot and warm water in the showers. The cold water is this season in La Rochelle real cold, that I feel it very directly. Each moment, when the pressure pump is working, the cold water arrives and the warm water gets cold with the effect, that you get cold shocking moment for some seconds and afterwards the warm shower water arrives again, till the water pressure pump starts working..

Does anybody have an idea how I can eliminate this strange and uncomfortable effect?


Thanks a lot for any suggestions.


Fair winds,


Philipp Sollberger,

Félicie, SM #124


Re: Alternating hot and cold water in showers

philipp.sollberger@...
 

Hi Peter,
Nice to read from you. We are just in La Rochelle and Wilson is looking good!
Tomorrow I will examine the pressure on the cold water tank and also on the boiler for the hot water.

The pressure difference can be an anwer for the uncomfortable situation.

Thank's a lot.

Fair winds,

Philipp


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] GPS Antenna below deck?

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi.

Interestingly we had a near miss lightning event some years ago. An electrical surge came into the boat, a lot through the radar and the aerials. We had two identical backup Furuno digital GPS mounted at the nav station. The aerial for one was mounted outside on the rail, the other under the deck near the nav station. The one fed by the external was cooked, the internal aerial unit was fine. 

Another thought: On a previous yacht with much lower freeboard than the Amel we had a GPS aerial mounted internally near the nav station. Offshore in big swells it at times lost satellites as there were hidden behind the swells. (the South Pacific between New Zealand and the Pacific islands can haves BIG swells) By putting the aerial a little higher we overcame the problem. Obviously these satellites must have been near the horizon.

Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl  


On 17 March 2018 at 09:23 "Ryan Meador ryan.d.meador@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Fiberglass is mostly transparent to radio waves, so it should have only a tiny impact on signal strength.  But GPS (and any satellite) signals are already very weak, so it might be enough to cause you to "see" fewer satellites than you would with a clear view of the sky.  It shouldn't cause any position error.  Take care that your sensor isn't behind any metal or wood, or even some kinds of paint, which can block signals.

Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:04 PM, sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

 

In tracing down the wiring on the boat I've found another GPS antenna!


It provides position data to the ACR Nauticast B AIS.  It was installed in the ceiling space above the midship cabin (just fwd of the aft cabin), attached with silicone to the overhead, and it had fallen over and must have been rolling around up there in a heavy sea.


We've always had good results from the Nauticast so I'm likely to leave it there, unless there's a good reason not to?   Of course I'll improve the mounting situation.


I'd appreciate your thoughts.

 

 

 


 


&#92;Generator speed vs frequency

eric freedman
 

Hi Craig,

The frequency of AC is determined by the

RPM of the genset.

It would not be feasible to change the speed .


Generators consist of an engine directly connected to an alternator to produce electricity. One of the most common ways of changing the output frequency of a generator is to change the rotation speed of the engine.

The two factors are related as per the following formula –
Generator Frequency (f) =
Number of revolutions per minute of the engine (N) * Number of magnetic poles (P) / 120
Conversely, P = 120*f/N

As per the above formulae, a 2-pole generator producing an output frequency of 60 Hz has an engine speed of 3,600 rpm. To change the output frequency to 50 Hz for the same generator configuration, the engine speed needs to be reduced to 3,000 rpm. Similarly, for a 4-pole generator, an engine speed of 1,800 rpm produces output of 60 Hz. Reducing the engine speed to 1,500 rpm yields an output of 50 Hz.

Fair Winds
Eric
Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 12:51 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Generator load, carbon buildup, etc.

 

 

Hi Eric,

I googled the spec sheet on your MDKAV and it says it runs at 1500 rpm. It's the newer model that runs at 2900 rpm. I should think a variable speed would be great at it would always present a full load to the engine, regardless of rpm.  Oh well, next boat.

Cheers, Craig



---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

Craig,

My Onan is a MDKAV model and I don’t have the slightest idea how many rpm the 3 cylinder Kubota is running at. However it puts out 220-230 volts at 50 cycles.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Generator load, carbon buildup, etc.

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Eric,
I googled the spec sheet on your MDKAV and it says it runs at 1500 rpm. It's the newer model that runs at 2900 rpm. I should think a variable speed would be great at it would always present a full load to the engine, regardless of rpm.  Oh well, next boat.
Cheers, Craig


---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

Craig,

My Onan is a MDKAV model and I don’t have the slightest idea how many rpm the 3 cylinder Kubota is running at. However it puts out 220-230 volts at 50 cycles.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

  


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Generator load, carbon buildup, etc.

pstas2003 <no_reply@...>
 

Good day to all,

For those of you who are fairly new to their boats and are not completely sure that the previous owner ran their generators at the proper load or whether that is effective enough, I would urge you to take the time to remove your Onan exhaust elbow and inspect for carbon build up.

We purchased our SM a little over a year ago.  The previous owners were adamant with me to always run the Onan with a high load when they generously spent four weeks with me during the purchase transfer/training period, and I adhered to this regimen.

A few weeks ago, the generator started acting up.  At first, it would not handle a full load, then, it would not run at all.

When I inspected the exhaust elbow, I found it was about 75% clogged with carbon, and the exit port on the exhaust manifold was nearly 100% clogged.  I was hopeful that cleaning both the manifold and elbow would solve our problem, but it was too late.  The back pressure from the exhaust must have broken some of the piston rings as only one of the 3 cylinders had compression that met specs.

This was an unnecessary early death for unit that only had 3300 hours on it.  I read on the forum about another owner who found similar deposits at only 2000 hours, allthough I believe he was able to save his. 

We could rebuild the engine, but we have decided to replace the whole unit instead and remove major components for spares.  We are going to do the work in Martinique as soon as the new unit arrives.

Checking the elbow was on my ‘todo’ list, but too far down to get to in time.

As the previous owners were insistent that the unit be run at high load, I’m not sure if this is a case of them not always practicing what they preached, or if the design is just prone to clogging.  For this reason I urge you all who may be unsure of current conditions to do an inspection.  I am planning on checking the new one after every 500 hours or so until I can acquire enough empirical data.

All the best,

Paul Stascavage
SM #466 - s/v Rita Kathryn
Rodney Bay Marina


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Heading Sensor vs. Solid State Compass???

eric freedman
 

If you also have a Raymarine Chart plotter, make sure that the nmea output from the course computer runs directly to the Chart plotter.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:25 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Heading Sensor vs. Solid State Compass???

 

 

I should mention that our main GPS sensor and the AIS GPS sensor, both from B&G, came with big warnings that these should not be installed up the mast.  So both were installed at deck level.  

 

Incidentally, I recall noticing that Amel is now installing what look to be a couple of GPS antennas on deck, forward of the pilot's windshield.  I saw this on either a '64 or a '55 in La Rochelle.

 

Along the same lines, the Amel-factory Furuno heading sensor that was original to #350 sat at nearly water level in the forward closet opposite of the head.  We now have replaced it with a B&G heading sensor sitting in the same little shelf.  

 

Finally, the original Amel-factory Raytheon/Raymarine heading sensor is still outboard of the dining table, behind the seat, and just aft of the air conditioning vent, i.e, just above the waterline.  It works very well and still provides reliable heading to the Raytheon autopilot.

 

Cheers,

 

Peregrinus

SM2K Nr. 350 (2002)

At anchor, Spinalonga, Candia (Crete)


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Generator load, carbon buildup, etc.

eric freedman
 

Craig,

My Onan is a MDKAV model and I don’t have the slightest idea how many rpm the 3 cylinder Kubota is running at. However it puts out 220-230 volts at 50 cycles.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:40 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Generator load, carbon buildup, etc.

 

 

Hi Eric,

Sorry, didn't mean to sound cheeky. I think your Onan has the same Kubota 3 cylinder engine as my Northern Lights, but whereas mine operates at 1800 rpm (I've got it set for 60 Hz 110v) I see the spec on the Cummins Onan says it operates at 2900 RPM (that's the Onan QD 6/7.5/8 KW Generator that seems to be their current model). I think I just stepped out of my knowledge level - how do they get 50Hz at 2900 rpm?

Cheers, Craig SN#68



---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

Craig,

Of course the generator does not have a variable speed.

What I meant is that we usually do not run the genset under enough load.

80 percent of the output of a 7.5 kw genset, I believe should be a usage of about 27 amps.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 9:49 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: RE: [Amel Yacht Owners] Black Smoke From Volvo Penta Engine Exhaust

 

 

 

Hi Eric,

You bring up an interesting point when you say you had the same carbon build up problem in your genset exhaust elbow, caused by not running at high enough rpm's. Unless you've got a variable speed genset, it always will be running at a high rpm (3000 or 3600 depending on Hertz), so rpm may not be the only issue. Isn't it low load that's the issue? 

So when Yanmar says to run the engine way up, no doubt they're assuming it will be in gear and will present a full load from the propeller. I think the genset analogy would be to load it with not just battery charging, but also get the Admiral to run her hair dryer, make toast, wash clothes and iron your shorts. Not a bad regimen, actually.

Sound about right?

Cheers, Craig SN#68 Sangaris

---In amelyachtowners@..., <kimberlite@...> wrote :

Hi,

I had his problem with my genset. It is caused by not running a diesel at about 80% of its redline. Diesels like to work hard. Our diesels are not run that hard so is the main engine.

Yanmar suggests to run the engine way up. In my case 3000 rpm for 15 minutes  a few time a day

This blows the carbon out of the turbo and the exhaust system.

 

 

The carbon is usually glass hard.

However if the elbow is not perforated due to corrosion, I would try  to break out the carbon.

You might try something like a dremel tool with a hard steel bit, or even better a carbide bit ,or a small cutoff disk. Being that they have ordered a new elbow for you,  you could go Medieval” on the elbow.

 

On eBay there is a fellow that makes beautiful Yanmar elbows out of stainless steel. They are much better than the factory unit. Possibly he makes elbows for your engine.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376