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Re: Membranes and O rings

william_maffei@...
 

I always love when these threads come up. Anyone familiar with the older "Dessalator, serie Amel. Modele Depose"? I would love to renew my "o" rings. Everything is working properly however there is a little weeping from the top membrane. Are "o" ring measurements the same?

Many thanks.

Bill Maffei
SM #195
It's all Good


Dimensions - Sails UV panels.

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Gang,

I need to change the UV panels on my sails.  The sail are in VG condition as the PO hardly used the boat after new sails were added.

Does anybody know the dimensions of the sails so we can order the anti UV cloth in sufficient quantity? … needs delivery to Panama and we don’t have much time from order to delivery.

Thanks as always.


Jean-Pierre Germain,
Eleuthera, SM007


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Water membranes replacement

Sv Garulfo
 

Hello,

Thanks to all for your input on this topic.
This may interest those of you currently in Europe looking for filmtec SW30-2521 membranes.

inaqua.de as recommended by Robin does provide them at a good price, but didn't have any in stock.

We ordered ours from www.Lenntech.com who are based in the Netherlands. They had the membranes at 175EUR/ 211EUR (+VAT), a good selection of filters /cartridges etc, good shipping fees and timelines and helpful staff. Membranes were delivered wet (we didn't get to choose).

Best wishes
Soraya
-- 
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Hyères, France

On 6 August 2017 at 12:26, SV Garulfo <svgarulfo@...> wrote:
Dear All,

It seems we may need to replace our watermaker membranes (Dessalator DUO100, filmtec SW30-2521).
Wondering if anyone has had to source membranes in Europe recently, and if you can recommend a supplier with 'reasonable' prices. Air, Water, ice mentioned below no longer seems to offer EU shipping on their website. I am also looking into few US based websites who would ship to France.

On a separate note, do membranes come with all required O-rings or do these need to be sourced separately?

Thanks in advance for your responses,

Have a nice Sunday all.

Soraya & Thomas
-- 
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Cap Brun, Côte d'azur, France


On 8 November 2016 at 17:12, Ian Shepherd sv_freespirit@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Paul,

I have always got my membranes from Air, Water & Ice (https://airwaterice.com/), even though I am in the Med. Their Filmtec membranes are $234 each (SW30-2540 is the model I recall). If you buy here, make sure you specify packaging for International post so that they beef up the protection. This source is cheaper than anything I can get locally.

Here is their list: https://airwaterice.com/membranes.html

By the way, my last membranes from them have now completed 8 years use and the water is still great. No pickling. Just the occasional back flush if I am not going to use the system for more than three weeks.

Good luck

Ian SM2K 414 Crusader Larnaca Cyprus


On 08/11/2016 10:14, pflafrance@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:
 

I have tried looking on this site for a conversation about replacing the membranes and can not find same.
If any one could tell us of were to obtain the replacement membranes in the US with a telephone number would be greatly appreciated. Our system is a 160 - 180 litre per hour system.
We are in the process of arranging a shipment from Miami to St Martin.
Paul & Sue LaFrance
SV NOMAD 1 SM # 362





[Amel Yacht Owners] Membranes and O rings

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi Gary (Liahona), Eric (Kimberlite) & All,

Do you mind me asking how you got the o-ring measurements for the watermaker (I don't suppose you got the info from Dessalator ...)

How accurate do the watermaker o-ring measurements discussed in previous posts need to be? 
  • 9.0 by 1.5 mm N70
  • 19.0 by 2.5 mm N70
  • 53.0 X 3.5 mm N70 

I found some sites but their measurements are sometimes to the 1/100 of mm for example:

FYI, Dessalator charge 40EUR for an o-ring kit containing (4 small,2med,4large) ... One kit covers one tube, and the DUO100 dessalator has three of those... The o-rings look as plain as o-rings can be...and the interconnect ones seems to break very easily...

So we are looking for an alternative source for common o-rings at a common price to stock up... if anyone could recommend an EU/UK provider..

As always, many thanks for your input.

Soraya

-- 
GARULFO
Amel 54 #122
Hyères, France



On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:33 AM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@optonline.net [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Looks like it is time to change the membranes onKimberlites watermaker are the SW30-2540

The correct Membranes?

Also are these the correct O ring sizes?



O-rings are nitrile rubber

 

9.0 by 1.5 mm N70

19.0 by 2.5 mm N70

53.0 X 3.5 mm N70

Fair Winds

Er ic

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376



---In amelyachtowners@...m, <no_reply@...> wrote :

18 June 2006

I located my receipt for the O-rings I purchased for the watermaker and they are as follows

9.0 by 1.5 mm N70

19.0 by 2.5 mm N70

53.0 X 3.5 mm N70 

N70 = Nitrile (Buna) 0-rings.

Cost for 10 of each was $6.30 USD

Gary Silver



Re: Maramu pole casting replacements

greatketch@...
 

Miles,

I do not know how (or if) the Maramu fittings are different, but on my Super Maramu the pole fittings were made by FranceSpar. The infallible (not!) internet says that FranceSpar stopped production in 1990.  My boat was built in 1996, with what I assume were parts from Amel's stock.  At some point I imagine they ran out, and newer boats probably have something from another manufacturer.

I do not know if they were standard catalog items, but they seem very similar to standard big boat spinnaker pole fittings.  An experienced rigger ought to be able to help put something together that will replicate the design if Amel can't help you with parts.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The scoop on Santa Marta

Stephen Davis
 

JP,

Not a bad option if you really want to see Santa Marta. A one week stay in the marina if you get the 30% discount offered on there add in Caribbean Compass would be $181 plus tax, water, and electricity. The rate for for 5 days is slightly higher due to daily vs weekly rate. I'm guessing from a money standpoint, it is probably a wash between checking in in Santa Marta and going direct to Cartagena and hiring the required agent to do the paperwork. 

Aloha,
Steve

On Aug 31, 2017, at 23:41, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Gang,


Taken from “noonsite”  … for those who don’t want a hassle.  Perhaps contact the Marina and enquire if they can begin the process before you come ashore???  I’ll give them a ring.

"Marina Santa Marta now has authorisation to act as a clearance agent. The marina will organise all clearance on behalf of the yacht owner. The only cost for clearing into Colombia at this marina is the cruising permit charge - however it does mean 5+ days berthed in the marina. On your 5th day in the marina, the agent will contact the officer from Customs-DIAN, who will inspect the boat and give the TIP. This process takes 48 hours.”

So it looks like I need 5 days in port.  Will keep a close eye on the coal dust …


Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre
Eleuthera, SM007


On 1 Sep 2017, at 06:38, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good thing I have to get an agent, as I might not have that much patience. 

Aloha,
Steve

On Aug 31, 2017, at 19:14, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

It doesn’t matter where you clear in, the paperwork in Colombia is incredible. One mistake in the paperwork , and you have to do it again, even a misspelling.

Just sending money to Colombia and possibly have it  repatriated one day requires an agent for $150- Us and then about 6 forms from the Colombian bank and proof of where the money was derived from your USA bank to get the treasured form 4.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The scoop on Santa Marta

 

 

Thanks again Eric. It looks like Columbia might even have topped the level of complicated bureaucracy I've found in places like India while trying to clear my aircraft and crew in. I was hoping on a 2 day stop in Santa Marta to clear in, but may just head to Cartagena, and hire an agent there.

Steve and Liz

 

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I recall Santa Marta and other places in Colombia take a week to clear in .

I wrote to Kelly and asked if that horrible coal burning plant is still working—It is.

Please note her comments below. If you still want to go to Santa Marta, she is the one to contact.

 

With respect to Latin American countries they use Roman Law versus law based upon the Magna Charta.

Everything depends on the weight of evidence thus pages of notarized papers with your huella (fingerprint )on the pages. I have a Colombian passport so it is a little easier for me. Regardless where you go t takes time. They do have an agent in the marina to clear you in and out. However you have to weigh that against having and incredibly dirty boat in Santa Marta.

 

I will have the info on a good marina in Cartagena shortly

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Dear Mr. Freedman,

 

I do remember you, yes the carbon dispatch is still from the port across the bay.

 

Normally it takes a week to have all the clearance done, if you come during a weekend custom do not come until Monday to start the process with them, migration normally is in the same day of your arrival, for leaving you tell the agent a day before (working day) so he can make the paperwork for departure (Zarpe).

 

 

Kelly Hernández

Commercial Assistant

Marina Santa Marta

Phone: + 57 (5) 4 36 36 01

Mobile: + 57 316 7418905

Whatsapp: + 57 316 7418905

E: operaciones@...

W: www.marinasantamarta.com.co

W: www.igy-marinasantamarta.com

Santa Marta - Colombia

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Colombia

 

 

We are similar to JP, but will transit the canal sometime in January, and head for the Marquesas the 2nd week of March. We are still considering going via Easter Island, Pitcairn, and the Gambiers in which case we would leave earlier. 

 

Aloha,

Steve 


On Aug 31, 2017, at 11:30, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

 

For me, its Aruba, Columbia, Panama (San Blas & Boca del Toro) then the canal to Galapagos, Marquesas etc…

 

Passage to Pacific is planned in first 1/3 of Jan 18.

 

:-)

 

Regards,

 

Jean-Pierre

Eleuthera, SM 007

 

 

On 31 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

When my girlfriend retires, hopefully in the next year.  We'll spend some time in Belize b4 we transit the canal.  Are you headed that way too?

Kent

S/V Kristy

SM243

 

 

 




Jean-Pierre Germain,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly

karkauai
 

Thanks, Bill

Kent 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly

Mark Erdos
 

Same here, I added the screws and washers to Cream Puff during our first bow thruster service.

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Grenada

www.creampuff.us

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Friday, September 1, 2017 7:42 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly

 

 

Hull #289 from 2000 did NOT come with the screw.
I added them in 2013 as per Gary Silver/Bill Rouse recommendation

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
IGY Simpson Bay Marina, St Maarten, NA

--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 8/31/17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly
To: "amelyachtowners@..."
Date: Thursday, August 31, 2017, 8:44 PM


 









Kent &
Tom,
I am guessing that
Amel added the screw and washer in later models. a little
later than your Hull numbers. I have seen this before, but
have not recorded the Hull numbers.
I think it is a
good idea for you to add it to secure the lip seal and
prevent the tube from pulling it out. If I were you, I would
do it...it is simple and easy.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander
Emeritus
Amel
School  http://www.amelschool.
com
720 Winnie
St
Galveston Island, TX
77550
+1(832)
380-4970


On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at
7:45 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners]
wrote:















 









SM 243 (1999) does not have the screw and
washer.  I use blue RTV to hold the lip seal in place. 
Since doing that and following all other instructions,
I've had no water incursion.KentS/V
KristySt
Michaels, MD



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Hull #289 from 2000 did NOT come with the screw.
I added them in 2013 as per Gary Silver/Bill Rouse recommendation

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
IGY Simpson Bay Marina, St Maarten, NA



--------------------------------------------

On Thu, 8/31/17, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Date: Thursday, August 31, 2017, 8:44 PM


 









Kent &
Tom,
I am guessing that
Amel added the screw and washer in later models. a little
later than your Hull numbers. I have seen this before, but
have not recorded the Hull numbers.
I think it is a
good idea for you to add it to secure the lip seal and
prevent the tube from pulling it out. If I were you, I would
do it...it is simple and easy.
Best,
CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander
Emeritus
Amel
School  http://www.amelschool.
com
720 Winnie
St
Galveston Island, TX
77550
+1(832)
380-4970


On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at
7:45 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@...
[amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
wrote:















 









SM 243 (1999) does not have the screw and
washer.  I use blue RTV to hold the lip seal in place. 
Since doing that and following all other instructions,
I've had no water incursion.KentS/V
KristySt
Michaels, MD


Re: Advise on buying 1978 Maramu

carcodespam@...
 

Tom,

I think this is not the best offer actually available for Maramus.
Some months ago I bought a Sharki build in 1982 for half the price.
Ok, the Sharki is smaller but is below the magic lenght of 12 m to get lower marina fees.
A real teak deck is not what an Amel usually has. They have an artificial teak deck which is far better because it is more resistent against sun and weather.
I am in Monastir, Tunisia with the Sharki and benefit from the low prices there. Repainting the whole deck last month for the Sharki was for less than 1000 Euro. They are doing nice jobs in stainless steel also.
There are also some other swiss boat owners in the Monastir marina.

Gerhard


Maramu pole casting replacements

smiles bernard
 

Hello there

Does anyone know if the castings for the amel pole ends are bespoke or standard items ?

I hope I can describe this adequately. . .

I'm new to Amels but mine i think has a typical pole arrangements and setup from the mid 80s at least

Unfortunately one of the outboard end castings of one of the smaller poles has cracked. It's the piece that fits into the hole on the larger main pole


Many thanks in advance

Miles
Sea Love
Maramu 162


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The scoop on Santa Marta

Germain Jean-Pierre <jgermain@...>
 

Hello Gang,

Taken from “noonsite”  … for those who don’t want a hassle.  Perhaps contact the Marina and enquire if they can begin the process before you come ashore???  I’ll give them a ring.

"Marina Santa Marta now has authorisation to act as a clearance agent. The marina will organise all clearance on behalf of the yacht owner. The only cost for clearing into Colombia at this marina is the cruising permit charge - however it does mean 5+ days berthed in the marina. On your 5th day in the marina, the agent will contact the officer from Customs-DIAN, who will inspect the boat and give the TIP. This process takes 48 hours.”

So it looks like I need 5 days in port.  Will keep a close eye on the coal dust …


Kind regards,

Jean-Pierre
Eleuthera, SM007


On 1 Sep 2017, at 06:38, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Good thing I have to get an agent, as I might not have that much patience. 

Aloha,
Steve

On Aug 31, 2017, at 19:14, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

It doesn’t matter where you clear in, the paperwork in Colombia is incredible. One mistake in the paperwork , and you have to do it again, even a misspelling.

Just sending money to Colombia and possibly have it  repatriated one day requires an agent for $150- Us and then about 6 forms from the Colombian bank and proof of where the money was derived from your USA bank to get the treasured form 4.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The scoop on Santa Marta

 

 

Thanks again Eric. It looks like Columbia might even have topped the level of complicated bureaucracy I've found in places like India while trying to clear my aircraft and crew in. I was hoping on a 2 day stop in Santa Marta to clear in, but may just head to Cartagena, and hire an agent there.

Steve and Liz

 

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I recall Santa Marta and other places in Colombia take a week to clear in .

I wrote to Kelly and asked if that horrible coal burning plant is still working—It is.

Please note her comments below. If you still want to go to Santa Marta, she is the one to contact.

 

With respect to Latin American countries they use Roman Law versus law based upon the Magna Charta.

Everything depends on the weight of evidence thus pages of notarized papers with your huella (fingerprint )on the pages. I have a Colombian passport so it is a little easier for me. Regardless where you go t takes time. They do have an agent in the marina to clear you in and out. However you have to weigh that against having and incredibly dirty boat in Santa Marta.

 

I will have the info on a good marina in Cartagena shortly

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Dear Mr. Freedman,

 

I do remember you, yes the carbon dispatch is still from the port across the bay.

 

Normally it takes a week to have all the clearance done, if you come during a weekend custom do not come until Monday to start the process with them, migration normally is in the same day of your arrival, for leaving you tell the agent a day before (working day) so he can make the paperwork for departure (Zarpe).

 

 

Kelly Hernández

Commercial Assistant

Marina Santa Marta

Phone: + 57 (5) 4 36 36 01

Mobile: + 57 316 7418905

Whatsapp: + 57 316 7418905

E: operaciones@...

W: www.marinasantamarta.com.co

W: www.igy-marinasantamarta.com

Santa Marta - Colombia

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Colombia

 

 

We are similar to JP, but will transit the canal sometime in January, and head for the Marquesas the 2nd week of March. We are still considering going via Easter Island, Pitcairn, and the Gambiers in which case we would leave earlier. 

 

Aloha,

Steve 


On Aug 31, 2017, at 11:30, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

 

For me, its Aruba, Columbia, Panama (San Blas & Boca del Toro) then the canal to Galapagos, Marquesas etc…

 

Passage to Pacific is planned in first 1/3 of Jan 18.

 

:-)

 

Regards,

 

Jean-Pierre

Eleuthera, SM 007

 

 

On 31 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

When my girlfriend retires, hopefully in the next year.  We'll spend some time in Belize b4 we transit the canal.  Are you headed that way too?

Kent

S/V Kristy

SM243

 

 

 




Jean-Pierre Germain,
+44 7551 211 511
jp.germain@...


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The scoop on Santa Marta

Stephen Davis
 

Good thing I have to get an agent, as I might not have that much patience. 

Aloha,
Steve

On Aug 31, 2017, at 19:14, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

It doesn’t matter where you clear in, the paperwork in Colombia is incredible. One mistake in the paperwork , and you have to do it again, even a misspelling.

Just sending money to Colombia and possibly have it  repatriated one day requires an agent for $150- Us and then about 6 forms from the Colombian bank and proof of where the money was derived from your USA bank to get the treasured form 4.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The scoop on Santa Marta

 

 

Thanks again Eric. It looks like Columbia might even have topped the level of complicated bureaucracy I've found in places like India while trying to clear my aircraft and crew in. I was hoping on a 2 day stop in Santa Marta to clear in, but may just head to Cartagena, and hire an agent there.

Steve and Liz

 

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I recall Santa Marta and other places in Colombia take a week to clear in .

I wrote to Kelly and asked if that horrible coal burning plant is still working—It is.

Please note her comments below. If you still want to go to Santa Marta, she is the one to contact.

 

With respect to Latin American countries they use Roman Law versus law based upon the Magna Charta.

Everything depends on the weight of evidence thus pages of notarized papers with your huella (fingerprint )on the pages. I have a Colombian passport so it is a little easier for me. Regardless where you go t takes time. They do have an agent in the marina to clear you in and out. However you have to weigh that against having and incredibly dirty boat in Santa Marta.

 

I will have the info on a good marina in Cartagena shortly

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Dear Mr. Freedman,

 

I do remember you, yes the carbon dispatch is still from the port across the bay.

 

Normally it takes a week to have all the clearance done, if you come during a weekend custom do not come until Monday to start the process with them, migration normally is in the same day of your arrival, for leaving you tell the agent a day before (working day) so he can make the paperwork for departure (Zarpe).

 

 

Kelly Hernández

Commercial Assistant

Marina Santa Marta

Phone: + 57 (5) 4 36 36 01

Mobile: + 57 316 7418905

Whatsapp: + 57 316 7418905

E: operaciones@...

W: www.marinasantamarta.com.co

W: www.igy-marinasantamarta.com

Santa Marta - Colombia

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Colombia

 

 

We are similar to JP, but will transit the canal sometime in January, and head for the Marquesas the 2nd week of March. We are still considering going via Easter Island, Pitcairn, and the Gambiers in which case we would leave earlier. 

 

Aloha,

Steve 


On Aug 31, 2017, at 11:30, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

 

For me, its Aruba, Columbia, Panama (San Blas & Boca del Toro) then the canal to Galapagos, Marquesas etc…

 

Passage to Pacific is planned in first 1/3 of Jan 18.

 

:-)

 

Regards,

 

Jean-Pierre

Eleuthera, SM 007

 

 

On 31 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

When my girlfriend retires, hopefully in the next year.  We'll spend some time in Belize b4 we transit the canal.  Are you headed that way too?

Kent

S/V Kristy

SM243

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The scoop on Santa Marta

eric freedman
 

It doesn’t matter where you clear in, the paperwork in Colombia is incredible. One mistake in the paperwork , and you have to do it again, even a misspelling.

Just sending money to Colombia and possibly have it  repatriated one day requires an agent for $150- Us and then about 6 forms from the Colombian bank and proof of where the money was derived from your USA bank to get the treasured form 4.

Fair Winds

Eric

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 10:38 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The scoop on Santa Marta

 

 

Thanks again Eric. It looks like Columbia might even have topped the level of complicated bureaucracy I've found in places like India while trying to clear my aircraft and crew in. I was hoping on a 2 day stop in Santa Marta to clear in, but may just head to Cartagena, and hire an agent there.

Steve and Liz

 

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I recall Santa Marta and other places in Colombia take a week to clear in .

I wrote to Kelly and asked if that horrible coal burning plant is still working—It is.

Please note her comments below. If you still want to go to Santa Marta, she is the one to contact.

 

With respect to Latin American countries they use Roman Law versus law based upon the Magna Charta.

Everything depends on the weight of evidence thus pages of notarized papers with your huella (fingerprint )on the pages. I have a Colombian passport so it is a little easier for me. Regardless where you go t takes time. They do have an agent in the marina to clear you in and out. However you have to weigh that against having and incredibly dirty boat in Santa Marta.

 

I will have the info on a good marina in Cartagena shortly

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Dear Mr. Freedman,

 

I do remember you, yes the carbon dispatch is still from the port across the bay.

 

Normally it takes a week to have all the clearance done, if you come during a weekend custom do not come until Monday to start the process with them, migration normally is in the same day of your arrival, for leaving you tell the agent a day before (working day) so he can make the paperwork for departure (Zarpe).

 

 

Kelly Hernández

Commercial Assistant

Marina Santa Marta

Phone: + 57 (5) 4 36 36 01

Mobile: + 57 316 7418905

Whatsapp: + 57 316 7418905

E: operaciones@...

W: www.marinasantamarta.com.co

W: www.igy-marinasantamarta.com

Santa Marta - Colombia

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Colombia

 

 

We are similar to JP, but will transit the canal sometime in January, and head for the Marquesas the 2nd week of March. We are still considering going via Easter Island, Pitcairn, and the Gambiers in which case we would leave earlier. 

 

Aloha,

Steve 


On Aug 31, 2017, at 11:30, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

 

For me, its Aruba, Columbia, Panama (San Blas & Boca del Toro) then the canal to Galapagos, Marquesas etc…

 

Passage to Pacific is planned in first 1/3 of Jan 18.

 

:-)

 

Regards,

 

Jean-Pierre

Eleuthera, SM 007

 

 

On 31 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

When my girlfriend retires, hopefully in the next year.  We'll spend some time in Belize b4 we transit the canal.  Are you headed that way too?

Kent

S/V Kristy

SM243

 

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] The scoop on Santa Marta

Stephen Davis
 

Thanks again Eric. It looks like Columbia might even have topped the level of complicated bureaucracy I've found in places like India while trying to clear my aircraft and crew in. I was hoping on a 2 day stop in Santa Marta to clear in, but may just head to Cartagena, and hire an agent there.

Steve and Liz

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 4:30 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I recall Santa Marta and other places in Colombia take a week to clear in .

I wrote to Kelly and asked if that horrible coal burning plant is still working—It is.

Please note her comments below. If you still want to go to Santa Marta, she is the one to contact.

 

With respect to Latin American countries they use Roman Law versus law based upon the Magna Charta.

Everything depends on the weight of evidence thus pages of notarized papers with your huella (fingerprint )on the pages. I have a Colombian passport so it is a little easier for me. Regardless where you go t takes time. They do have an agent in the marina to clear you in and out. However you have to weigh that against having and incredibly dirty boat in Santa Marta.

 

I will have the info on a good marina in Cartagena shortly

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Dear Mr. Freedman,

 

I do remember you, yes the carbon dispatch is still from the port across the bay.

 

Normally it takes a week to have all the clearance done, if you come during a weekend custom do not come until Monday to start the process with them, migration normally is in the same day of your arrival, for leaving you tell the agent a day before (working day) so he can make the paperwork for departure (Zarpe).

 

 

Kelly Hernández

Commercial Assistant

Marina Santa Marta

Phone: + 57 (5) 4 36 36 01

Mobile: + 57 316 7418905

Whatsapp: + 57 316 7418905

E: operaciones@marinasantamarta.com.co

W: www.marinasantamarta.com.co

W: www.igy-marinasantamarta.com

Santa Marta - Colombia

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Colombia

 

 

We are similar to JP, but will transit the canal sometime in January, and head for the Marquesas the 2nd week of March. We are still considering going via Easter Island, Pitcairn, and the Gambiers in which case we would leave earlier. 

 

Aloha,

Steve 


On Aug 31, 2017, at 11:30, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

 

For me, its Aruba, Columbia, Panama (San Blas & Boca del Toro) then the canal to Galapagos, Marquesas etc…

 

Passage to Pacific is planned in first 1/3 of Jan 18.

 

:-)

 

Regards,

 

Jean-Pierre

Eleuthera, SM 007

 

 

On 31 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

 

 

When my girlfriend retires, hopefully in the next year.  We'll spend some time in Belize b4 we transit the canal.  Are you headed that way too?

Kent

S/V Kristy

SM243

 

 



The scoop on Santa Marta

eric freedman
 

I recall Santa Marta and other places in Colombia take a week to clear in .

I wrote to Kelly and asked if that horrible coal burning plant is still working—It is.

Please note her comments below. If you still want to go to Santa Marta, she is the one to contact.

 

With respect to Latin American countries they use Roman Law versus law based upon the Magna Charta.

Everything depends on the weight of evidence thus pages of notarized papers with your huella (fingerprint )on the pages. I have a Colombian passport so it is a little easier for me. Regardless where you go t takes time. They do have an agent in the marina to clear you in and out. However you have to weigh that against having and incredibly dirty boat in Santa Marta.

 

I will have the info on a good marina in Cartagena shortly

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

Dear Mr. Freedman,

 

I do remember you, yes the carbon dispatch is still from the port across the bay.

 

Normally it takes a week to have all the clearance done, if you come during a weekend custom do not come until Monday to start the process with them, migration normally is in the same day of your arrival, for leaving you tell the agent a day before (working day) so he can make the paperwork for departure (Zarpe).

 

 

Kelly Hernández

Commercial Assistant

Marina Santa Marta

Phone: + 57 (5) 4 36 36 01

Mobile: + 57 316 7418905

Whatsapp: + 57 316 7418905

E: operaciones@...

W: www.marinasantamarta.com.co

W: www.igy-marinasantamarta.com

Santa Marta - Colombia

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:50 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Colombia

 

 

We are similar to JP, but will transit the canal sometime in January, and head for the Marquesas the 2nd week of March. We are still considering going via Easter Island, Pitcairn, and the Gambiers in which case we would leave earlier. 

 

Aloha,

Steve 


On Aug 31, 2017, at 11:30, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

 

For me, its Aruba, Columbia, Panama (San Blas & Boca del Toro) then the canal to Galapagos, Marquesas etc…

 

Passage to Pacific is planned in first 1/3 of Jan 18.

 

:-)

 

Regards,

 

Jean-Pierre

Eleuthera, SM 007

 

 

On 31 Aug 2017, at 22:24, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

When my girlfriend retires, hopefully in the next year.  We'll spend some time in Belize b4 we transit the canal.  Are you headed that way too?

Kent

S/V Kristy

SM243

 

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Kent & Tom,

I am guessing that Amel added the screw and washer in later models. a little later than your Hull numbers. I have seen this before, but have not recorded the Hull numbers.

I think it is a good idea for you to add it to secure the lip seal and prevent the tube from pulling it out. If I were you, I would do it...it is simple and easy.

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970



On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Kent Robertson karkauai@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

SM 243 (1999) does not have the screw and washer.  I use blue RTV to hold the lip seal in place.  Since doing that and following all other instructions, I've had no water incursion.
Kent
S/V Kristy
St Michaels, MD



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly

karkauai
 

SM 243 (1999) does not have the screw and washer.  I use blue RTV to hold the lip seal in place.  Since doing that and following all other instructions, I've had no water incursion.
Kent
S/V Kristy
St Michaels, MD


Re: Bow Thruster Anomaly

greatketch@...
 

One of the great things about the Amel design that is not immediately obvious, is when it is set up properly and sealed well there is normally almost no water in the bow thruster trunk. Air bubbles entrained under the hull come up in the trunk, and if the seal is good, they displace almost all the water so the hub and other moving parts of the thruster are actually not constantly immersed in water as you might think.  

One of the problems I found with my unit on it's last service was the shaft that engages the lip seal was "fuzzy" with protruding glass fibers.  They would have totally destroyed the lip seal in very short order.  A very light buffing with 600 grit wet/dry paper and the shaft was again smooth.  I keep the shaft lubricated with a very light coating of silicon grease, again to reduce wear and friction with the lip seal.

Harmonie as it was originally built by Amel is without provision for a "retaining screw" on the lip seal.  I am not sure I understand why one is needed.  If the rubber lip somehow became glued to the shaft while the thruster was down, the rubber would rip long before the seal was pulled from its housing.  If the metal seal housing could be pulled out by the rubber lip ring, it was either not installed correctly, was the wrong size, or the wrong type.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Boston, Mass


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly

Thomas Peacock
 

Thanks to all for such speedy replies. 
But no, despite the photo appearance, what you see are not two neoprene seals. The top of the structure is rock hard. 
Assuming no one else has a similar appearance, I'm afraid that Admiral Bill is right. We bought her about 8 years ago, that topmost area was always rock solid. Either fiberglass, or some material that is poured into mast fittings to seal them. 
I suspect previous owner had a little bit of water coming in and took it to a boatyard. Their solution was to raise the apparent waterline by an inch or so. 
It looks like it will be a bear to get off. 
If anyone else has any thoughts, please fire away, always appreciated. 
Tom Peacock
SM 240 Aletes
Rock Hall, Maryland


On Aug 31, 2017, at 6:26 PM, kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Tom,
the photo shows 2 foam seals . These are attached with contact cement. Below this is the lip seal that you are looking for. The lisp seal is installed with silicone sealant.The foam and lip seals need to be changed.
Fair Winds,
Eric
sm 376
 


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Clark john.biohead@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: Thursday, August 31, 2017 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow Thruster Anomaly
To: amelyachtowners@...

> Thomas, my BT looks similar. I have a foam disk that feels
> glued to an
> epoxy bed. No screws evident, also no leakage.
>
> My BT is an older model...form 1990. Not sure when they updated it.
>
> John
> SV Annie. SM 37
> Pamlico Sound.
>
> On Aug 31, 2017 5:42 PM, "Thomas Peacock peacock8491@...
> [amelyachtowners]" wrote:
>
> >
> > [Attachment(s) <#m_6356709092296176804_TopText> from Thomas Peacock
> > included below]
> >
> > Trying to get the pic to send.
> >
> > [image: image1.jpeg]
> >
> >
> > On Aug 31, 2017, at 5:10 PM, peacock8491@...
> [amelyachtowners] <
> > amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > We are hauled out for C-Drive and bottom paint.
> >
> > We are trying to change the seal in the bow thruster trunk. It
> has not
> > been changed for at least 8 years, and we do get quite a bit
> of water
> > coming in while at sea.
> >
> > All the pictures that I have seen in this group show a seal
> held in by two
> > screws with washers. However, ours seems a bit different, see
> pic below.
> > There is at least two centimeters of further hard casing above
> the seal. It
> > seems to be integral to the entire setup. We are not able to
> see any
> > screws, and hence are unable to change the seal.
> >
> > Any thoughts would be appreciated. We splash back in the water
> around 1300
> > hours GMT on Friday, and would really like to change the seal.
> Sorry for
> > the klunky picture.
> >
> > Tom Peacock
> >
> > SM 240 Aletes
> >
> > Rock Hall, Maryland
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>