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Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

 

Rink,

I really like that. We sailed 40,000 miles with the plotter in the middle. Ours was exactly in the middle, but the same concept. To get it in the middle we used a RAM Mount.
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Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:19 AM Rink De Haan <rinkdehaan@...> wrote:
Following Bill’s line of thinking we have the 12” Raymarine chart plotter at the center. Well protected when sailing window open and a fair view for the co- pilot as well. 

Best
Rink
Amel SM2k #330


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 22 mei 2021 om 15:52 heeft CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> het volgende geschreven:


Consider mounting the pod and/or chartplotter near the center of the windshield. Most of the time you will be viewing the chart plotter you will be seated in places other than the helm seat. Additionally, if it is in the center, everyone in the cockpit can see it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 3:06 AM Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:
Hi,
How did you mount and connect your chart plotter in the cockpit. I wanted to mount mine (Zeus 3s 12") in a Pod to secure it from theft, but i found it much to high (no more visibility over it), so i mounted it with the original mounting bracket behind the autopilot command. Does anybody have an idea how to protect it from theft other than removing it after navigation? Having 4 cables attached to it, i want to resolder those into one plug (to pass through the hull) if i have to remove it after each navigation but i am not sure whether it is possible to assemble power, nmea and ethernet into one plug without interferences. 

regards,

Eloi,
SM2K 426 RedLion


Re: After 14 months in the water

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Welcome back Alan.

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 22 May 2021 at 22:44 Alan Leslie <s.v.elyse@...> wrote:

Hello fellow Amelians, stranded by you know what,

Last week I flew to New Zealand from Australia to be reunited with my beautiful boat Elyse.

I thought some may be interested to know that after 14 months in the water, mostly everything is OK.

Mille merci a JP (Eleuthera SM007), who has from time to time kept an experienced eye on Elyse in Opua Marina.
I had her hauled out for a wash, pics attached, and I have to say this is an excellent advert for PROPSPEED...look at that prop...no movement for 14 months !!
I changed the oil and filters on the Yanmar and the Onan...both started easily, no problem....water flow fine 
The mainsail furls out and in easily as does the genoa, the main sheet winch needed servicing... a bit stiff
The only thing that doesn't work well is the water maker....even though I have a fresh water flush system, and JP made sure the water tank was full.....but the membranes are old, new in 2013, so not so surprising
AND , of course, as we would all expect, Elyse was clean and dry inside, no odour....even the bed was fine!....amazing...
So, I'm very impressed, and so happy to be able to be back on my beautiful boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


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Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Sv Garulfo
 

Hi,

I changed my lines for 4mm dyneema, no cover. 

I later removed the weights. I don’t think their are needed anymore.
I think the weights are only there so the stainless steel wires reel in nicely without the weight of the dinghy. 
I keep the lines out when the dinghy is not on the davits, tied to the small cleats on the davits. It’s out of the sun most of the time, and one less round trip of the motors every day. 
One less thing to bang on the gelcoat, the outboard, my skull and other things. 

I didn’t need to change anything on the motor/gearbox. Make the line extra long, it doesn’t hurt. 

Hope that helps

Thomas
GARULFO 
A54-122
Huahine, French Polynesia 


On 21 May 2021, at 22:33, Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:

Dear Scott,

I also intend to change the wires to dyneema.
After checking the gearbox I can not see why it is not possible without this expensive Simpson „dyneema“ set.
What do you needed the 100 Euros for?
4mm Dyneema is not that expensive :-)
Did you use dyneema with a polyester cover or without protection?
Did you do any changings on the gearbox/ motor?

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

Rink De Haan
 

Following Bill’s line of thinking we have the 12” Raymarine chart plotter at the center. Well protected when sailing window open and a fair view for the co- pilot as well. 

Best
Rink
Amel SM2k #330


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 22 mei 2021 om 15:52 heeft CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> het volgende geschreven:


Consider mounting the pod and/or chartplotter near the center of the windshield. Most of the time you will be viewing the chart plotter you will be seated in places other than the helm seat. Additionally, if it is in the center, everyone in the cockpit can see it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 3:06 AM Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:
Hi,
How did you mount and connect your chart plotter in the cockpit. I wanted to mount mine (Zeus 3s 12") in a Pod to secure it from theft, but i found it much to high (no more visibility over it), so i mounted it with the original mounting bracket behind the autopilot command. Does anybody have an idea how to protect it from theft other than removing it after navigation? Having 4 cables attached to it, i want to resolder those into one plug (to pass through the hull) if i have to remove it after each navigation but i am not sure whether it is possible to assemble power, nmea and ethernet into one plug without interferences. 

regards,

Eloi,
SM2K 426 RedLion


Re: mounting 12" chart plotter

 

Consider mounting the pod and/or chartplotter near the center of the windshield. Most of the time you will be viewing the chart plotter you will be seated in places other than the helm seat. Additionally, if it is in the center, everyone in the cockpit can see it.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 3:06 AM Eloi Bamberg <eloi.bamberg@...> wrote:
Hi,
How did you mount and connect your chart plotter in the cockpit. I wanted to mount mine (Zeus 3s 12") in a Pod to secure it from theft, but i found it much to high (no more visibility over it), so i mounted it with the original mounting bracket behind the autopilot command. Does anybody have an idea how to protect it from theft other than removing it after navigation? Having 4 cables attached to it, i want to resolder those into one plug (to pass through the hull) if i have to remove it after each navigation but i am not sure whether it is possible to assemble power, nmea and ethernet into one plug without interferences. 

regards,

Eloi,
SM2K 426 RedLion


After 14 months in the water

Alan Leslie
 

Hello fellow Amelians, stranded by you know what,

Last week I flew to New Zealand from Australia to be reunited with my beautiful boat Elyse.

I thought some may be interested to know that after 14 months in the water, mostly everything is OK.

Mille merci a JP (Eleuthera SM007), who has from time to time kept an experienced eye on Elyse in Opua Marina.
I had her hauled out for a wash, pics attached, and I have to say this is an excellent advert for PROPSPEED...look at that prop...no movement for 14 months !!
I changed the oil and filters on the Yanmar and the Onan...both started easily, no problem....water flow fine 
The mainsail furls out and in easily as does the genoa, the main sheet winch needed servicing... a bit stiff
The only thing that doesn't work well is the water maker....even though I have a fresh water flush system, and JP made sure the water tank was full.....but the membranes are old, new in 2013, so not so surprising
AND , of course, as we would all expect, Elyse was clean and dry inside, no odour....even the bed was fine!....amazing...
So, I'm very impressed, and so happy to be able to be back on my beautiful boat.
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: solar panel

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal <svrascal@...>
 

Understood Juan. Will let you know when I leave here.

Haven’t dived in that part of the island yet, done some lovely dives over in the marine park. 

Enjoy the weekend 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 

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On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 12:30 AM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Hello Nick,

We will be in the marina from Friday evening since we will haul out in Tyrell bay marina on the 31st.
We indeed were diving yesterday and I was really great.
Hope we can meet before we go back Europe for hurricane season.

Juan de Zulueta
+33680895892
sent from my Ipad.

Le 21 mai 2021 à 17:29, Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal@...> a écrit :


Juan, 

Yes, I’m heading back up there I hope on Saturday (week tomorrow)  and will be there for a few weeks at least. 

Let me know your plans and hopefully we can meet up. 

How was the dive yesterday ? Was it you that went past me in the Dingy as I was getting ready to head off ? 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 
Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:59 PM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com






Re: Simpson Davits Maintenance

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Scott,

I also intend to change the wires to dyneema.
After checking the gearbox I can not see why it is not possible without this expensive Simpson „dyneema“ set.
What do you needed the 100 Euros for?
4mm Dyneema is not that expensive :-)
Did you use dyneema with a polyester cover or without protection?
Did you do any changings on the gearbox/ motor?

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria


Re: Display VDS 215 MDS - nav table A54

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Arno,

that is a good idea!
Thus I would really appreciate your help for the supplier and a short description of the steps required when changing the display.

Best regards
Stefan
A54 #199 Lady Charlyette, currently Azores, Santa Maria


mounting 12" chart plotter

Eloi Bamberg
 

Hi,
How did you mount and connect your chart plotter in the cockpit. I wanted to mount mine (Zeus 3s 12") in a Pod to secure it from theft, but i found it much to high (no more visibility over it), so i mounted it with the original mounting bracket behind the autopilot command. Does anybody have an idea how to protect it from theft other than removing it after navigation? Having 4 cables attached to it, i want to resolder those into one plug (to pass through the hull) if i have to remove it after each navigation but i am not sure whether it is possible to assemble power, nmea and ethernet into one plug without interferences. 

regards,

Eloi,
SM2K 426 RedLion


Re: solar panel

Juan de Zulueta
 

Hello Nick,

We will be in the marina from Friday evening since we will haul out in Tyrell bay marina on the 31st.
We indeed were diving yesterday and I was really great.
Hope we can meet before we go back Europe for hurricane season.

Juan de Zulueta
+33680895892
sent from my Ipad.

Le 21 mai 2021 à 17:29, Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal@...> a écrit :


Juan, 

Yes, I’m heading back up there I hope on Saturday (week tomorrow)  and will be there for a few weeks at least. 

Let me know your plans and hopefully we can meet up. 

How was the dive yesterday ? Was it you that went past me in the Dingy as I was getting ready to head off ? 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 
Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:59 PM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com




Re: solar panel

Dean Gillies
 

On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 10:44 AM, Chris Doucette wrote:
have a single Victron Mulit 3kw and my goal is to have two of them for redundancy
Chris,
This is the path I am going down too.  I will install one MP 3000 when I upgrade my system this year, and then think about whether I need/want a second one after I am using the system. Like many 54's my boat has a 24VDC water-maker mode. I almost never make water with 230VAC, and only then its just to give the 230V mode a workout. So maybe the 3000 is enough for me, time will tell!  A single MP3000 also helps ease the port/stbd balance problem when changing from all-lead to mostly-lithium batteries.
Dean
SV Stella A54-154 


Re: solar panel

Chris Doucette
 

Also a note here- I am running lithium 400ah /24v and have a single Victron Mulit 3kw and my goal is to have two of them for redundancy-  another way to look at it if you can find a home for two.  

Chris
Amarok Sm385

On May 21, 2021, at 5:29 PM, Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal via groups.io <svrascal@...> wrote:


Juan, 

Yes, I’m heading back up there I hope on Saturday (week tomorrow)  and will be there for a few weeks at least. 

Let me know your plans and hopefully we can meet up. 

How was the dive yesterday ? Was it you that went past me in the Dingy as I was getting ready to head off ? 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 
Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:59 PM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com




Re: solar panel

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal <svrascal@...>
 

Juan, 

Yes, I’m heading back up there I hope on Saturday (week tomorrow)  and will be there for a few weeks at least. 

Let me know your plans and hopefully we can meet up. 

How was the dive yesterday ? Was it you that went past me in the Dingy as I was getting ready to head off ? 

Nick
SV Rascal
SM404
🇬🇩 
Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:59 PM, Juan de Zulueta <jdezulue@...> wrote:
Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com




Re: solar panel

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal <svrascal@...>
 

Scott,

I have two Solbian SR+ 240 on the Bimini. It’s a love hate thing with them and the Bimini. The Bimini was made in Antigua and sadly not well. On top of that The panels weigh enough to cause sag and chafe. I’ve had the Bimini adapted here in Grenada to support the weight. I have attached a few photos which I hope illustrate this, if not let me know and I will send some more. 

Worth noting that my Bimini is pretty much fixed in place. Taking it down for repairs etc is pretty time consuming and complex process as it now has four stainless bars running front to back holding the panels and these bars are hidden in pockets . I hope the pictures help illustrate this. Let me know if you would like more. 

I ran the cables through pockets stitched into the bimini so they are protected from main sheet/ sun etc , down the stb side Bimini and into the area where the winch circuit breakers are housed on the SM, which is above the pilot berth. From there the cables run direct to the Victron MPPT which, along with the two other MPPT’s are housed next to the nav station, taking over the wet gear hanging area, if that makes sense. I don’t know 54’s that well so this may not make sense. This puts the MPPTs a very short distance from the main battery bank. All the solar and wind MPPTs are isolated with circuit breakers between the panels / silent wind and their respective MPPT and then again between the MPPT and the batteries. 

The Solbian  panels were fearsomely expensive when compared to the LG’s and other Brand’s of semi flexible, but they work,  are apparently very efficient and so far I haven’t had any of the overheating issues I have read about on other semi flex panels. I do feel better now knowing they are very well supported and ventilated after revising the Bimini. On anchor I move the main boom away from the panels to avoid shade. I can’t do much with regards the masts ! 

I think you are spot on with the 3km vs 5Kw. I have looked up changing mine, but haven’t yet. My experience is that with 600amH of lithium used for everything (cooking etc) on anchor I have to dial back in what I’m using. For example oven and two rings is about ok, if the immersion is on, that’s too much. The water maker is the “problem”. I know I can get 30mins before it cuts out, so I tend to do short daily runs, and then once a week fire  up the genset and top up tanks and batteries if I need. 

I’ve looked at the 5Kw as a solution, and it’s a tight fit in my engine bay, unless I remove the MasterVolt 100amp charger, which I am loathe to do right now. However I have also read that the 5Kw when being used heavily doesn’t like poorly ventilated areas. I think from my experience that’s also true of the 3KW which may actually be my real problem when just using Water maker alone. It’s such a constant draw, whereas the galley equipment  alternates much more than the WM, so in my simplistic mind gives the Quattro a rest and allows some cooling down.  My sense is that unless I move the Quattro, even with a 5Kw I am likely to have overheating issues. I’m not an expert on this, just seems logical to me and would be an expensive experiment. 

I don’t have a compressor on board, but I’m doing more diving than I thought and have started looking at models and where to possibly mount it. I like where it’s supposed to go on the SM , but putting it there means I have to play musical chairs with a lot of other things. With a compressor I would have to solve the Quattro size and overheat issue beforehand. 

Hope this helps. 

Nick 
SV Rascal
SM404
 🇬🇩 

Sent from ProtonMail for iOS


On Fri, May 21, 2021 at 1:41 PM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com




Re: House Bank vs. Engine Start

Mark Garver
 

Bill and Bill,

I completely agree. I already discovered the bonding straps that had been cut and have the new copper to run down to the bilge and will have to run new bonding wires because they were cut short.

I’m currently for the summer in the lower Chesapeake Bay, Gloucester Point. Don’t know of any electricians here that are familiar with Amel’s. I may need to check either Delta illegal or Annapolis.

Do you know of any around the Chesapeake?

I have already been ripping out all of the left over wiring from the nav equipment replacement... he went with Ray Marine, instead of B&G which I wasn’t impressed with. 

Thanks everyone, now to get the electrician!

Best,

Mark Garver
S/V It’s Good
SM #105


On May 21, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:

Mark,

Echoing Bill Rouse's comments...  

In an Amel with standard wiring, the connection of shore power would have nothing what ever to do with the engine starting--or not.  Also, in a boat with Amel standard wiring, the state of the 24 Volt system is not at all connected with the ability of the engine to start, or to run.

Based on your description of the symptoms you observe, it would seem your wring has been changed in significant ways.  Without knowing HOW your system has been changed, it is virtually impossible to offer specific advice.

I think you are probably right to be concerned that things are not as they should be, but without knowing how your batteries and engine are wired I am not sure how we can help remotely.

Are you located in a place you can get in contact with a marine electrician who is familiar with Amel systems?

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL


Re: House Bank vs. Engine Start

Bill Kinney
 

Mark,

Echoing Bill Rouse's comments...  

In an Amel with standard wiring, the connection of shore power would have nothing what ever to do with the engine starting--or not.  Also, in a boat with Amel standard wiring, the state of the 24 Volt system is not at all connected with the ability of the engine to start, or to run.

Based on your description of the symptoms you observe, it would seem your wring has been changed in significant ways.  Without knowing HOW your system has been changed, it is virtually impossible to offer specific advice.

I think you are probably right to be concerned that things are not as they should be, but without knowing how your batteries and engine are wired I am not sure how we can help remotely.

Are you located in a place you can get in contact with a marine electrician who is familiar with Amel systems?

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL


Re: House Bank vs. Engine Start

Mark Garver
 

Bill,

The PO replaced with a brand new Yanmar prior to our purchase. The house bank had multiple failed or weak batteries, wouldn’t maintain a charge although we had been a marina mostly. Of course before learning about running the generator when using the bow thruster I am sure we had taken a toll on them. Engine would start while connected to shore power, me starting it thinking I had turned shore power off. The next day we were departing and o disconnected shore power tried to start the motor and it would start for a second then stop nearly immediately. 

I also don’t have the switch that some seem to have on their SM’s to cut off the main bank. I do have a switch in the port locker but didn’t try that before replacing the house bank.

I just worry about having this happen somewhere at anchor and having to row!

Mark Garver
S/V It’s Good
SM #105


On May 20, 2021, at 11:31 AM, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:


Mark,

SM 105 was repowered with a different main engine. I am not sure who did it, but this is probably one source of your problems. I believe that some serious wiring changes were made including the termination of Amel Bonding wires (yellow/green). Additionally, I assume that the new engine was NOT installed isolated and that there is also a crossover of 12 & 24 DC negative at the engine.

A review of your wiring needs to be done.

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
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On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:29 AM Bill Kinney <cruisingconsulting@...> wrote:
Mark,

This is an odd one...  Just by way of additional information, what was the nature of the failure of the main battery bank?  You have the original Volvo engine?

Bill Kinney
sm160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL


Re: solar panel

Juan de Zulueta
 

Nick,

I am in Tyrell bay in Carriacou.
I am very interested by your installation are you coming back soon to Tyrell bay?
Best regards

Juan
Ophélie X sm32
Tyrell bay Carriacou 

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Le 21 mai 2021 à 13:41, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> a écrit :



Nick,

I would love to hear more about your Bimini panels. Model, how you mounted them, how you ran the wires, etc. 

Now that we're going to try to cook more on induction, I surmise I may need to add more solar.

Also I can't remember who was discussing the 3kw vs 5kw, but I think your experience is evidence that with the current delivery capacity of lithium, it makes all the sense in the world to get the 5kw. With our 5kw Quattro, it has never overheated even running the dishwasher, washing machine and occasional kitchen appliance concurrently. 

If you have a scuba compressor, it's a no brainer, imo. Even with a intake hose extension, I still don't like running the genset at the same time as the compressor to avoid the off chance that I get exhaust fumes in my scuba tank. Enough stuff to worry about diving in the middle of nowhere, far from a decompression chamber. We have filled 3 tanks sequentially on inverter/battery with no overheating issues.

There's the 8kw Quattro, but the idle power consumption of that monster is excessive.

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Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com

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