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Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Bill Kinney
 

Transducers come in two flavors these days, "Smart" and analog.  

The "smart" transducers output digital NMEA2000 data directly and connect to the network backbone.  All of the smart transducers are identical with the possible exception of the connector they use on the drop cable. The only thing missing from the "smart" transducers is the sonar information is limited to depth ONLY.  You do not get any kind of "fishfinder" display, if that matters to you.  This limitation also applies to some of the "multi" transducers. The more "stuff" packaged into the thru-hull package, the smaller and less capable is the depth sensor.  For speed and temperature there is no functional difference at the instrument between the "smart" and analog versions.

The analog transducers are also pretty much all the same, but each brand uses a different connection. In this case, they connect to some smart device in the system, usually the MFD, or sometimes a separate sounder module, which then processes the data and outputs it on the NMEA2000 network.  Almost all are made by Airmar, differing only in what connector they put on the end of the wires to match the final brand seller. (Raymarine, Garmin, B&G, Simrad, etc.)

We installed Airmar's ultrasonic speed sensor UDST800 a few years ago, and it worked great--until it didn't.  At that price point the failure was painful, and we went back to cleaning a paddlewheel. To put things in perspective, the 800 series ultrasonic speed sensor was vaporware for YEARS in the Airmar catalog before it was actually available on the market, so I wouldn't hold my breath for the 900 to actually be a physical product in the real world anytime soon.

If you have a compatible sounder module, or MFD, you can actually use an in-hull transducer, like the Airmar p-79, avoiding another hole in the hull.  No speed or temperature of course, but it works well as a sounder.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood FL, USA


Re: SIMPSON SERIES 8 DAVITS - electric shock

 

Elja,

There is one installed on the 220VAC panel, and there will likely be one at the marina shore power post.

This is the reason I concentrated on the Inverter circuit. Many inverters were installed on Amels after leaving Amel.
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 1:00 AM Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222 <Bijorka@...> wrote:
He Bill 
Is it possible to install a 
residual current protection switch
 to remove such threats?

Best Elja 
Sm Balu 222

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Re: Amel logos

Larry Salibra
 

I’d love to get new Amel decals too! Will drop you an email Bill for the vector file.

Larry
SM140, Sula
Hong Kong


Re: SIMPSON SERIES 8 DAVITS - electric shock

Elja Röllinghoff Balu SM 222
 

He Bill 
Is it possible to install a 
residual current protection switch
 to remove such threats?

Best Elja 
Sm Balu 222

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Re: Amel logos

Bill Kinney
 

Bill,

I have a vector file of the Amel logo.  Shoot an email to cruisingconsulting@... and I'll forward it to you.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Hollywood, FL, USA


Re: SIMPSON SERIES 8 DAVITS - electric shock

 

Experts will say that 24 volts will not shock you. I have dealt with 24VDC and never felt a thing. 

I suspect that you have a 220VAC device that has an internal fault delivering 220VAC to the 220 Earth which is connected to Bonding. The Simpson davits are also connected to Bonding.

I also suspect it is either an Inverter that was connected wrong, a device connected wrong to the inverter power, or a device or wiring failure.

You should be very careful.  

Best,

CW Bill Rouse 
Amel Owners Yacht School
+1 832-380-4970 | brouse@...
720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
www.AmelOwnersYachtSchool.com 
Yacht School Calendar: www.preparetocastoff.blogspot.com/p/calendar.html


   


On Tue, Mar 23, 2021, 4:17 PM Stefan Schaufert <mail@...> wrote:
Dear Amelians,
from time to time we get an electrical shock (for free ;-) when using the switches to lower or raise the dinghy AND have contact to the davids or wires.
Today I checked the units/ electric engines and wiring, but everything looks fine. No broken cables, no failure.
What can be the reason for the electric shocks from your point of experiences?
Thanks a lot for you appreciated ideas.

Best regards
 
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Exumas


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Bill,

I have one of these.
I installed it to replace the original forward looking sonar on Elyse.
It's not very good.
I think there's a previous discussion on the forum about it.
It only works in absolutely flat water at low boat speed.
Any minor pitching of the boat throws the display out to the point where it is useless.
It really needs to have a motion sensor to compensate for boat movement.
I believe the Garmin Panoptix system has that, but it's a lot more expensive. 

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


SIMPSON SERIES 8 DAVITS - electric shock

Stefan Schaufert
 

Dear Amelians,
from time to time we get an electrical shock (for free ;-) when using the switches to lower or raise the dinghy AND have contact to the davids or wires.
Today I checked the units/ electric engines and wiring, but everything looks fine. No broken cables, no failure.
What can be the reason for the electric shocks from your point of experiences?
Thanks a lot for you appreciated ideas.

Best regards
 
Stefan
A54 #119 Lady Charlyette, currently Exumas


Re: Amel logos

Mark Garver
 

Bill,

Last year a group of us did a “group” purchase of new decals and WOW! What a difference they made. Ours were from 1993, the original ones… at the recommendation of another cruiser we used oven cleaner to get the old ones off. Have a look in the archives and you can probably find the original thread and who coordinated it.

Mark
S/V It’s Good
SM #105

On Mar 23, 2021, at 1:40 PM, william reynolds <sail23692@...> wrote:

Does  anyone have digital files for the the Amel decal on the cabin sides?
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2K 331


Re: Deck Shower

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

With you on this Bill. I would hate to have the cockpit shower at the stern for all the reasons you list. 

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299

Ocean Pearl

On 24 March 2021 at 04:53 CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:

Bernd,

My reply is not meant for you but for all of those owners who are new to an Amel made prior to the Amel 55.

If you use the shower for anything in addition to showering, you will find that this is a good place for the shower because:
It is close to the swim ladder
It allows you to use the freshwater shower in the engine room when needed
It allows you to rinse the windshield
It allows you to wash things in the cockpit which is great if repairing things
If you clean fish on the cockpit floor, it is easy to wash
If you have unruly grandchildren a little squirt solves most issues.

Owning an Amel is a sometimes lengthy process of getting into the head of Henri Amel. Sometimes this is difficult. I will also note that when Henri left us the shower moved to the stern.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
 
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:12 AM Bernd Spanner < bernd.spanner@...> wrote:
Hello,

Where is the deck shower installed on your SN or SM?
On my SN it’s in the port cockpit locker which is sub optimal...
Rgds

--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal

 

 


Amel logos

william reynolds
 

Does  anyone have digital files for the the Amel decal on the cabin sides?
Bill Reynolds
Cloudstreet SM2K 331


Re: Deck Shower

 

Bernd,

My reply is not meant for you but for all of those owners who are new to an Amel made prior to the Amel 55.

If you use the shower for anything in addition to showering, you will find that this is a good place for the shower because:
It is close to the swim ladder
It allows you to use the freshwater shower in the engine room when needed
It allows you to rinse the windshield
It allows you to wash things in the cockpit which is great if repairing things
If you clean fish on the cockpit floor, it is easy to wash
If you have unruly grandchildren a little squirt solves most issues.

Owning an Amel is a sometimes lengthy process of getting into the head of Henri Amel. Sometimes this is difficult. I will also note that when Henri left us the shower moved to the stern.

Bill

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 10:12 AM Bernd Spanner <bernd.spanner@...> wrote:
Hello,

Where is the deck shower installed on your SN or SM?
On my SN it’s in the port cockpit locker which is sub optimal...
Rgds

--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: Deck Shower

Davi Rozgonyi
 

On our SM, starboard cockpit locker. It was quite annoying until I cut a semicircular hole in the lip so I can have the hose out, on and coiled nicely and still be able to sit on the locker lid seat without damaging it. And that hose is like gold, you'll never find another one!! 😅


Deck Shower

Bernd Spanner
 

Hello,

Where is the deck shower installed on your SN or SM?
On my SN it’s in the port cockpit locker which is sub optimal...
Rgds

--
Bernd
SN 119 / Cascais, Portugal


Re: Galley sink drain

Joerg Esdorn
 

Thanks much, Nick.  Joerg


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Scott SV Tengah
 

Matt,

As it relates to this, seems you're light years ahead of me!

I don't need a wide nor a long range, in fact, I want it to only cover the transom area or perhaps the lazarette area. The Digital switch sounds fantastic! If you figure it out and find a way to implement it, please let us know. 

I know it would add to cost and likelihood that it will fail, but it'd be great if you could do it without running control wires. Perhaps a bluetooth/wifi activated relay to switch on the lights? 

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Scott SV Tengah
 

Could you send a pic or the model number?

Have you ever considered angling it or putting tape on the sensor so that it only covers the transom forward? 

My understanding is that PIR sensors don't detect just motion, but rather detect infrared heat, so I'm surprised it picks up a dinghy at night!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_infrared_sensor
--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: Depth Sounder Replacement in a SM 2000

Peter de Groot
 

Greetings all,
While cruising Mexico’s Pacific coast this year I had the Garmin Pan optic PS-51 forward sonar start to behave irregularly and ultimately overheat and fail. Garmin replaced it on warranty but I spent several weeks anchoring about in different bays with no depth readings available at the helm. My take-away from this experience is to have a back up available whether it be an on-board spare replacement transducer, or a complete functioning back up system.

BTW: a toilet plunger with a diver underneath worked great for minimizing the water entry when we exchanged the transducer.

Peter de Groot
La Querida SM207
Barra de Navidad, Mexico


Re: Searching for outdoor, motion activated 24V LED light for stern arch

Ian Townsend
 

We have a motion activated solar light on the arch. It works well. However, the motion sensor is sensitive. You must ensure there is nothing back there to constantly trip the sensor. If you keep your dinghy in the water overnight then the sensor can be activated by the dinghy itself or the davit lines.

Ian & Margaret
Loca Lola II
SM153

On Mar 21, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Scott SV Tengah <Scott.nguyen@...> wrote:

Hey Amelians,

I figure someone has found/installed a motion-activated 24v LED light. We would like to have it there so that when we dinghy back at night and hop on the swim step, the light comes on for say, 30 seconds. That's the primary use but, of course, it would function as a security light, too.

A few more features I'd love to have:

- IP68 waterproof or better
- Mounts easily on 2 inch / 5cm stainless tubing
- Wide enough sensor coverage so the light will come on if you step anywhere on the stern. But not so sensitive that waves trigger it.
- 24v as I have that wiring in place, already. Solar would be ok, too.
- Only comes on if it detects motion at night.

Anyone find/install anything that meets these requirements?

Thanks!

--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Deck light / Steaming light SM2000

Tim Melbourne
 

My old one did that, too.  
Super advice, thank you and thanks for the photo, too- super helpful. 
-Tim
SM2K #306

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