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Re: Prisoner in St Maarten
eric freedman
Sorry St Maarten.
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of eric freedman
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 5:09 PM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Prisoner in St Maarten
Hi, Does anyone have a boat in St Marten and are trying to get to the island to sail out of the Hurricane zone?
Kimberlite is in St Marten, I am in New York. I have been working with people in the government to allow me to arrive and sail out. It is a huge bureaucracy. I hope to get the go ahead in the next two weeks—which means I will have no insurance till I get back to NY. I will also probably have to sail home single handed.
If I get the go ahead to land on the Island, I will sail over to St Thomas, fuel, provision and leave asap.
Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
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Prisoner in St Maarten
eric freedman
Hi, Does anyone have a boat in St Marten and are trying to get to the island to sail out of the Hurricane zone?
Kimberlite is in St Marten, I am in New York. I have been working with people in the government to allow me to arrive and sail out. It is a huge bureaucracy. I hope to get the go ahead in the next two weeks—which means I will have no insurance till I get back to NY. I will also probably have to sail home single handed.
If I get the go ahead to land on the Island, I will sail over to St Thomas, fuel, provision and leave asap.
Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: New files uploaded to main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
eric freedman
HI Gary, Would you please send the phone number of Cummins. I need a manual for my MDKAV. I believe it is very similar to the generator that is in the manual. Is there a step by step listing for removing the bearing? I wonder how tight the bearing is on theshaft. Fair Winds Eric Amel Super Maramu #376
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Re: A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Mohammad Shirloo
Ok. I see. It was Bill’s fault. Lol.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 11:48 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Cc: Atefeh Towfigh <atyt@...> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Mohammad,
I wish it was something professional like a rolling sea but, in all honesty, we were on a mooring in NOUMEA and Bill ROUSE said something to me which really stunned/upset me that I dropped the lid on my finger :(.
Thanks for pic.
T
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message -------- From: "Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io" <mshirloo@...> Date: 5/18/20 11:22 (GMT-07:00) Cc: Atefeh Towfigh <atyt@...> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Hi Teun;
Sorry about your finger. I can see how it would be dangerous to try to open the door in a rolling seaway, hold it open while you grab stuff. We just have one strut. Attached please find a picture.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Hi Aty & Mohammad,
Strange – as I was told the small door 54 didn’t have a strut when I was looking to get a strut as the frigging door/cover fell on my finger and I can assure you that HURTS and gives you a black nail for several weeks. Mine doesn’t have any markings or signs of ever a strut(s) being installed.
You have 2 struts: 1 on each side?
OK – then I also like to have this info on the struts and will install.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 11:14:12
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
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On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Hi Teun;
We have the small door for our top loading fridge in the galley and ours does have the struts. Ours also is getting weak and need replacing. So, input on this would also be appreciated if anyone has the part number.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Hi Soraya,
Looking @ your hull number (being very close to mine) I have been told that if you have the small top loading fridge/freezer there are no struts and you have to hold it open yourself ☹ Does GARULFO have the wide or narrow top?
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 10:37:48
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
-----Original Message-----
Hello
Could anyone please confirm the details for the strut of the top loading fridge/freezer of the AMEL 54? And suggest a provider/ website?
Thanks for your help Best Soraya
Garulfo A54-122 Tahuata, French Polynesia
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Re: Bulkhead Thickness & Screw length
Richie Whyte
Hi Trevor
I tried emailing you at firstnamesurname@... but have not received a reply. Have I got the correct address? Kind regards Richie
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Re: Onan ballbearing check and valves values
Gary Silver
Follow Up on Onan Genset Bearing Replacement. I contacted Onan thru their web site and received a reply from Jesse Ketive, a
Cummins Level 1 Diagnosis, representative. He was most helpful and sent me the latest and greatest service and parts manuals for our Onan genesis. These I just posted to the files section with the "Current as of May 2020" designation. Having read the procedure for the generator bearing replacement again several times I have inferred that this isn't such a big job after all. All the references to supporting the engine and generator rotor etc etc are relative to complete removal of the generator and rotor from the engine and doesn't apply to our project.
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New files uploaded to main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
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Re: Self Insurance
Brent, Thank you for that great offer. It would be a great way to determine interest AND to find out claim information for the last decade or two. It could also be presented to insurance companies if we ask about group coverage. Initially, poll questions might include: 1.Owner 2. Hull Number 3. Year boat built 4. How long owned by current owner 5. Cruising experience *Years sailing *Nautical Miles Sailed *Cruising ground in past *Future Sailing Plans 6. Last Out of Water Survey 7. Any Insurance Claims *Year *Circumstances *Amount of claim *Amount recovered 8. Are you interested in participating in a group insurance plan or a self-insured plan for members only? Anything else we should ask? Even if some owners are not interested, please complete the poll. Your personal information would not be revealed if that was requested. Thanks again, Brent. Contact me personally while we design the poll. I don't do Facebook, anyone like to volunteer to steer those folks to this poll? Kent SM 243 Kristy
On May 18, 2020 8:56 AM, "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote: This is a rough outline of a self insurance or shared risk co-op, that I sent Kent and thought I would share with the group. It was prompted by the hassle I have had with obtaining insurance, the restrictions and expense. Bill suggested self insuring and just buying liability insurance, however in the event of a total loss, it would be a big financial hit, that I could not afford. However, if I could share that risk with even ten others or better yet many more, it would soften the loss. When you consider how few Amel's have been lost outside of a hurricane zone, the risk seems very low, and yet we need to insure against such a great financial lose.
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Re: Self Insurance
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Bill Rouse, your thoughts Danny
On 19 May 2020 at 07:21 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:
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Re: Self Insurance
Patrick McAneny
Danny, I was thinking (dangerous) we Amel owners, are probably paying for the sins of others. We are lumped in with other owners that for the most part have inferior boats and less experience. I see many out there that do not even know how to anchor, last winter one drug anchor in Guadeloupe and did $28,000.00 damage to my boat. So many owners out there are making bad decisions leading to losses that we all pay for. Amels are very safe boats ,with knowledgeable owners and it would be nice if that was reflected in the coverage/premiums.
Be Safe,
Pat
SM#123
-----Original Message-----
From: Danny and Yvonne SIMMS <simms@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Sent: Mon, May 18, 2020 3:02 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance Hi Pat, I like that idea better. More workable I think.
Danny
SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 19 May 2020 at 05:18 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:
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Re: Self Insurance
Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
Hi Pat, I like that idea better. More workable I think. Danny SM 299 Ocean Pearl
On 19 May 2020 at 05:18 "Patrick McAneny via groups.io" <sailw32@...> wrote:
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Re: Self Insurance
Patrick McAneny
Teun, This idea came about after Bill & I spoke about insurance and he suggested self insuring.Which in the event of a total loss , would be too big of a hit for me. That got me thinking ,if a small group,but bigger the better , would spread the risk ,than the individual loss would be small.Then this weekend I was talking (emailing ) Kent about something else, then I threw this idea at him and he thought it had merit, and would put it out to the group. I followed up by posting what I sent Kent ,that hit on a few other points.
I guess Kent did put it out there to determine interest . I assume what Bill did was to organize a group insurance buy. I did not know that. One problem is that this risk co-op would need a paid administrator ,someone well organized ,to make it work. One person comes to mine, and it is not me,a more disorganized man ,you will never find.
Be Safe,
Pat
SM#123
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From: Teun BAAS <teun@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Mon, May 18, 2020 1:49 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance Pat,
Agree; understand Bill ROUSE tried this over the last 2 years w/o success. But if we come up with a concept that as a group we would share part of the risk it might
be different. It is now not so much anymore a matter of premium costs but it is becoming a matter of being able to get a
quote at all on reasonable conditions.
Luckily I was able to get AMELIT insured for this coming year but the writing is on the wall. I hope there is a member of the AYOG who has some experience in this.
I would think this should be of interest to LLOYDS. My companies used to have a COMMERCIAL LLOYDS OPEN MARINE POLICY where we would declare at the
END of each month what cargo we had on the high seas to be insured during that previous
month; was all based on integrity (and the risk of an annual audit hahahahahaha).
First step might be to get an idea how many people would be interested in concept (synthetic or not) to get a feeling on
the size of the pool.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
May 18, 2020
10:49:12
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842
AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link:
https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:18 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance Teun, I have often thought if we as sizable sub group of Amel owners approached an Insurance Co. with a group buy ,if it would be possible to obtain better coverage
at a better price. The same way groups obtain group medical insurance at a better rate than individuals.
Just a thought,
Pat
SM#123
-----Original Message-----
From: Teun BAAS <teun@...> To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> Sent: Mon, May 18, 2020 12:41 pm Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance Hi Pat & Kent,
Since we might be able to make the point of: A) AMEL boats; B) AMEL owners - and therefore a lower risk (????) - combined with thoughts/approach similar to your
concept below it might make sense to research a synthetic form by approaching an insurance company for a joint?
F.e: no USA insurance company is willing to write/cover my ASTON MARTIN but HAGERTY in MI specializes in this and insured
at a lower premium than my the main USA insurers carry my BMW/AUDI.
Best Regards Teun
SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA
May 18, 2020 09:38:21
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842
AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link:
https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
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On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 05:56 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance This is a rough outline of a self insurance or shared risk co-op, that I sent Kent and thought I would share with the group. It was prompted by the hassle I have
had with obtaining insurance, the restrictions and expense. Bill suggested self insuring and just buying liability insurance, however in the event of a total loss, it would be a big financial hit, that I could not afford. However, if I could share that risk
with even ten others or better yet many more, it would soften the loss. When you consider how few Amel's have been lost outside of a hurricane zone, the risk seems very low, and yet we need to insure against such a great financial lose.
1. A LLC. formed
2. An administrator and board to accept membership ,assess deposit amount , administer funds and assess claims.
3. A one time deposit could be a percentage of agreed fixed value, perhaps 2 or 2.5% ,eg. $200,000 boat would amount to a $5000 deposit into the fund
4. Coverage would be for total loss , fixed value minus say 10% deductible. Figuring most owners could absorb some loss ,and insurance companies have deductibles
as well. Hurricane zones excluded.
5. Perhaps lightning strike coverage , perhaps coverage would be ,replace with new equipment ,minus a 30 % deductible.This would probably be the largest source of
loss. May have a surcharge or higher deductible for Florida locations.
6. All funds would be in an interest bearing account,if you can find anyone paying interest.
7. Upon leaving the group , the owner would receive a 50% refund of his deposit assuming they had no claims.
8. Perhaps a .20% of fixed value annual fee to go to cost of administration .eg. $3000,000. boat x.20% = $600. annual fee
Assuming 200 owners/members at average boat value of $300,000 x 2.5 % = $7,500 deposit or $1,500,000.00 in funds.
a $300,000. loss of a boat would break down to a loss of $1,350. for each of the 200 members.
This could even work on a smaller scale . If ten owners shared responsibility for loss. $300,000 minus deductible of 10% ,would be $ 270,000.000 divided by ten owners
or $27,000 per owner. Its all about spreading the risk.
I wonder why no group has formed a risk co-op as yet. Maybe because insurance used to be less restrictive and more reasonably priced .
Stay Safe,
Pat
SM 123
Shenanigans
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Re: A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Mohammad, I wish it was something professional like a rolling sea but, in all honesty, we were on a mooring in NOUMEA and Bill ROUSE said something to me which really stunned/upset me that I dropped the lid on my finger :(. Thanks for pic. T Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message -------- From: "Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io" <mshirloo@...> Date: 5/18/20 11:22 (GMT-07:00) To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Cc: Atefeh Towfigh <atyt@...> Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut Hi Teun;
Sorry about your finger. I can see how it would be dangerous to try to open the door in a rolling seaway, hold it open while you grab stuff. We just have one strut. Attached please find a picture.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
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On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Hi Aty & Mohammad,
Strange – as I was told the small door 54 didn’t have a strut when I was looking to get a strut as the frigging door/cover fell on my finger and I can assure you that HURTS and gives you a black nail for several weeks. Mine doesn’t have any markings or signs of ever a strut(s) being installed.
You have 2 struts: 1 on each side?
OK – then I also like to have this info on the struts and will install.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 11:14:12
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Hi Teun;
We have the small door for our top loading fridge in the galley and ours does have the struts. Ours also is getting weak and need replacing. So, input on this would also be appreciated if anyone has the part number.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Hi Soraya,
Looking @ your hull number (being very close to mine) I have been told that if you have the small top loading fridge/freezer there are no struts and you have to hold it open yourself ☹ Does GARULFO have the wide or narrow top?
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 10:37:48
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
-----Original Message-----
Hello
Could anyone please confirm the details for the strut of the top loading fridge/freezer of the AMEL 54? And suggest a provider/ website?
Thanks for your help Best Soraya
Garulfo A54-122 Tahuata, French Polynesia
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Re: anchor wash safety note
william reynolds
AWP should have a filter before it preferably a 60 mesh screen. I have filters on all my seawater pumps-, head (2) generator and even fresh water -10 microns. I rarely have a pump failure due to debris.
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Re: A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Teun;
Sorry about your finger. I can see how it would be dangerous to try to open the door in a rolling seaway, hold it open while you grab stuff. We just have one strut. Attached please find a picture.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 11:14 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Hi Aty & Mohammad,
Strange – as I was told the small door 54 didn’t have a strut when I was looking to get a strut as the frigging door/cover fell on my finger and I can assure you that HURTS and gives you a black nail for several weeks. Mine doesn’t have any markings or signs of ever a strut(s) being installed.
You have 2 struts: 1 on each side?
OK – then I also like to have this info on the struts and will install.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 11:14:12
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Hi Teun;
We have the small door for our top loading fridge in the galley and ours does have the struts. Ours also is getting weak and need replacing. So, input on this would also be appreciated if anyone has the part number.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Hi Soraya,
Looking @ your hull number (being very close to mine) I have been told that if you have the small top loading fridge/freezer there are no struts and you have to hold it open yourself ☹ Does GARULFO have the wide or narrow top?
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 10:37:48
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
-----Original Message-----
Hello
Could anyone please confirm the details for the strut of the top loading fridge/freezer of the AMEL 54? And suggest a provider/ website?
Thanks for your help Best Soraya
Garulfo A54-122 Tahuata, French Polynesia
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Re: A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Hi Aty & Mohammad,
Strange – as I was told the small door 54 didn’t have a strut when I was looking to get a strut as the frigging door/cover fell on my finger and I can assure you that HURTS and gives you a black nail for several weeks. Mine doesn’t have any markings or signs of ever a strut(s) being installed.
You have 2 struts: 1 on each side?
OK – then I also like to have this info on the struts and will install.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In Storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 11:14:12
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Mohammad Shirloo via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 11:01 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Hi Teun;
We have the small door for our top loading fridge in the galley and ours does have the struts. Ours also is getting weak and need replacing. So, input on this would also be appreciated if anyone has the part number.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From:
main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Hi Soraya,
Looking @ your hull number (being very close to mine) I have been told that if you have the small top loading fridge/freezer there are no struts and you have to hold it open yourself ☹ Does GARULFO have the wide or narrow top?
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 10:37:48
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
-----Original Message-----
Hello
Could anyone please confirm the details for the strut of the top loading fridge/freezer of the AMEL 54? And suggest a provider/ website?
Thanks for your help Best Soraya
Garulfo A54-122 Tahuata, French Polynesia
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Re: A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Hello
I guess we have the narrow one like Kokomo with a single strut on RHS (evaporator under worktop to the left of the opening).
It stopped working recently not long after I read about its replacement on a related fridge thread.
Rather heavy to hold if you trying to load at the same time...
Thanks
Soraya Garulfo A54-122 Tahuata, French Polynesia
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Re: A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Mohammad Shirloo
Hi Teun;
We have the small door for our top loading fridge in the galley and ours does have the struts. Ours also is getting weak and need replacing. So, input on this would also be appreciated if anyone has the part number.
Happy Sailing;
Mohammad and Aty B&B Kokomo AMEL 54 #099
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Teun BAAS via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:39 AM To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A54 top loading fridge /freezer strut
Hi Soraya,
Looking @ your hull number (being very close to mine) I have been told that if you have the small top loading fridge/freezer there are no struts and you have to hold it open yourself ☹ Does GARULFO have the wide or narrow top?
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 10:37:48
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
-----Original Message-----
Hello
Could anyone please confirm the details for the strut of the top loading fridge/freezer of the AMEL 54? And suggest a provider/ website?
Thanks for your help Best Soraya
Garulfo A54-122 Tahuata, French Polynesia
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Re: Zink Anode for SPURS Line Cutter
Morning Ruedi,
Thanks for reminding me. Yup – agree.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
In storage on the hard in COOMERA (near BRISBANE) QLD AUSTRALIA May 18, 2020 10:50:47
USA cell: +1 832 477 8842 AUSTRALIA cell: +61 5951 8909
You can follow AMELIT via this link: https://forecast.predictwind.com/tracking/display/AMELIT
From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Rudolf Waldispuehl via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:44 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Zink Anode for SPURS Line Cutter
Hi Teun
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Re: Self Insurance
Pat,
Agree; understand Bill ROUSE tried this over the last 2 years w/o success. But if we come up with a concept that as a group we would share part of the risk it might be different. It is now not so much anymore a matter of premium costs but it is becoming a matter of being able to get a quote at all on reasonable conditions.
Luckily I was able to get AMELIT insured for this coming year but the writing is on the wall. I hope there is a member of the AYOG who has some experience in this. I would think this should be of interest to LLOYDS. My companies used to have a COMMERCIAL LLOYDS OPEN MARINE POLICY where we would declare at the END of each month what cargo we had on the high seas to be insured during that previous month; was all based on integrity (and the risk of an annual audit hahahahahaha).
First step might be to get an idea how many people would be interested in concept (synthetic or not) to get a feeling on the size of the pool.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
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From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2020 10:18 To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Self Insurance
Teun, I have often thought if we as sizable sub group of Amel owners approached an Insurance Co. with a group buy ,if it would be possible to obtain better coverage at a better price. The same way groups obtain group medical insurance at a better rate than individuals. Just a thought, Pat SM#123 -----Original Message----- Hi Pat & Kent,
Since we might be able to make the point of: A) AMEL boats; B) AMEL owners - and therefore a lower risk (????) - combined with thoughts/approach similar to your concept below it might make sense to research a synthetic form by approaching an insurance company for a joint?
F.e: no USA insurance company is willing to write/cover my ASTON MARTIN but HAGERTY in MI specializes in this and insured at a lower premium than my the main USA insurers carry my BMW/AUDI.
Best Regards Teun SV AMELIT A54 #128
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On Behalf Of Patrick McAneny via groups.io
This is a rough outline of a self insurance or shared risk co-op, that I sent Kent and thought I would share with the group. It was prompted by the hassle I have had with obtaining insurance, the restrictions and expense. Bill suggested self insuring and just buying liability insurance, however in the event of a total loss, it would be a big financial hit, that I could not afford. However, if I could share that risk with even ten others or better yet many more, it would soften the loss. When you consider how few Amel's have been lost outside of a hurricane zone, the risk seems very low, and yet we need to insure against such a great financial lose.
1. A LLC. formed
2. An administrator and board to accept membership ,assess deposit amount , administer funds and assess claims.
3. A one time deposit could be a percentage of agreed fixed value, perhaps 2 or 2.5% ,eg. $200,000 boat would amount to a $5000 deposit into the fund
4. Coverage would be for total loss , fixed value minus say 10% deductible. Figuring most owners could absorb some loss ,and insurance companies have deductibles as well. Hurricane zones excluded.
5. Perhaps lightning strike coverage , perhaps coverage would be ,replace with new equipment ,minus a 30 % deductible.This would probably be the largest source of loss. May have a surcharge or higher deductible for Florida locations.
6. All funds would be in an interest bearing account,if you can find anyone paying interest.
7. Upon leaving the group , the owner would receive a 50% refund of his deposit assuming they had no claims.
8. Perhaps a .20% of fixed value annual fee to go to cost of administration .eg. $3000,000. boat x.20% = $600. annual fee
Assuming 200 owners/members at average boat value of $300,000 x 2.5 % = $7,500 deposit or $1,500,000.00 in funds. a $300,000. loss of a boat would break down to a loss of $1,350. for each of the 200 members.
This could even work on a smaller scale . If ten owners shared responsibility for loss. $300,000 minus deductible of 10% ,would be $ 270,000.000 divided by ten owners or $27,000 per owner. Its all about spreading the risk.
I wonder why no group has formed a risk co-op as yet. Maybe because insurance used to be less restrictive and more reasonably priced .
Stay Safe, Pat SM 123
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