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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electrolysis on jib furling gearbox? [1 Attachment]

Dominique Sery
 

Scott,
I made it as simple as possible.
As it has to be installed first after shore power socket and before all devices, circuit-breakers...
I installed the galvanic isolator in the aft trunk, port side, near the dock socket, in a waterproof box on the small shelf.
It is thus installed before the residual current circuit breaker and before the transfer switch. 
Note that the unit is "waterproof" IP 67.
It is simply two diodes mounted in opposite directions embedded in the resin. It is not very sensitive to possible humidity.
Very easy and fast to install, there is only the ground wire to be connected.
Dominique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electrolysis on jib furling gearbox? [1 Attachment]

Scott SV Tengah
 

Dominique, 

I was looking at that model also. Did you install it in the lazarette in the same place where Arno installed his Mastervolt isolation transformer? 

I was wondering if you could install it in the engine after the lazarette circuit breaker but before it enters the automatic transfer switch (the victron quattro in my case)? It seems far more likely to stay dry in that case. 

If you do as I suggested, it should be isolated from the bonding / ground, no? 

On Sun, Feb 14, 2021, 17:26 Dominique Sery via groups.io <dominiquesery=me.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hello Scott,
I'm in the same situation as you, I rarely go to marinas so I chose to install a Victron galvanic isolator.
It's lighter, smaller, much cheaper and very easy to install.
It works perfectly.
I noticed, in Greece, in some ports a potential difference of 500 mV on the ground between the shore and the boat which seemed enormous to me.
The Victron isolator cuts 600 mVc, which is perfectly in line with my expectations.
My anodes are deteriorating very little since the installation of this insulator 2 years ago.
Sincerely
Dominique
A54#16


--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electrolysis on jib furling gearbox? [1 Attachment]

Dominique Sery
 

Hello Scott,
I'm in the same situation as you, I rarely go to marinas so I chose to install a Victron galvanic isolator.
It's lighter, smaller, much cheaper and very easy to install.
It works perfectly.
I noticed, in Greece, in some ports a potential difference of 500 mV on the ground between the shore and the boat which seemed enormous to me.
The Victron isolator cuts 600 mVc, which is perfectly in line with my expectations.
My anodes are deteriorating very little since the installation of this insulator 2 years ago.
Sincerely
Dominique
A54#16


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

Mark & Debbie Mueller
 

As Alan Leslie mentioned the Johnson Viking 32, we have also replaced the original AMFA pump with a Johnson Viking. It is well-built, extremely easy to maintain, has a higher output than the original pump, and a handcrank in case the power or motor fails. I could not find anything wrong with with this pump with the Johnson Viking. I could not find anything wrong with this pump since we have had it installed. 
--
Mark Mueller
Brass Ring  A54


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electrolysis on jib furling gearbox? [1 Attachment]

Scott SV Tengah
 

Arno,

No need to apologize - I am happy to get advice from anyone. I agree that the 54s are far too tail heavy as is.

I am looking at getting a galvanic isolator and it seems the device you installed is an isolation transformer? I know the I.T. is superior but given that I plan to spend relatively short periods in marinas, I thought the slightly inferior but far lighter/cheaper galvanic isolator would be sufficient.

Thoughts?

PS - wow your lazarette looks amazingly clean and dry! I think I need to replace the seal on the lid.

On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 2:58 PM Arno Luijten <arno.luijten@...> wrote:
Hi Scott,

Sorry to barge into your question to Mohammad.
But just as some addition information for you. I have installed a Galvanic Isolator as well last year because of the poor electrical system here in the marina.
I’ve installed a Mastervolt GI7 that is basically a double GI 3.5 in a single enclosure. This is an isolator based on HF-switching technology making it far less heavy then a conventional one. It works well although I do think Mastervolt missed big time on an opportunity to make it much more clever. Actually the device is not made by Mastervolt but by a Dutch OEM that also produces the Mass line of devices sold by Mastervolt.
For one they could have made it fairly easy into a frequency conversion device as well (50<=>60 Hz). Also the regulation of the output voltage is not possible (out voltage is in voltage plus a few %). Finally they also offer a version of the Isolator that can convert 110 to 220 that is not available (?), at least not when I was shopping.
I had some conversation with tech support at the time but their Customer Relation skills are well below par.
So all in all the thing does what it’s supposed to do but Product Management has been sleeping with this thing. For me the main point aside from isolation is the weight as the thing lives in the rear lazarette (see picture). As the 54 is already very much tail-heavy I don’t want to put too much additional weight that I can avoid on the back.


Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121





--
Scott 
2007 A54 #69
SV Tengah
http://www.svtengah.com


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] electrolysis on jib furling gearbox? [1 Attachment]

Arno Luijten
 

Hi Scott,

Sorry to barge into your question to Mohammad.
But just as some addition information for you. I have installed a Galvanic Isolator as well last year because of the poor electrical system here in the marina.
I’ve installed a Mastervolt GI7 that is basically a double GI 3.5 in a single enclosure. This is an isolator based on HF-switching technology making it far less heavy then a conventional one. It works well although I do think Mastervolt missed big time on an opportunity to make it much more clever. Actually the device is not made by Mastervolt but by a Dutch OEM that also produces the Mass line of devices sold by Mastervolt.
For one they could have made it fairly easy into a frequency conversion device as well (50<=>60 Hz). Also the regulation of the output voltage is not possible (out voltage is in voltage plus a few %). Finally they also offer a version of the Isolator that can convert 110 to 220 that is not available (?), at least not when I was shopping.
I had some conversation with tech support at the time but their Customer Relation skills are well below par.
So all in all the thing does what it’s supposed to do but Product Management has been sleeping with this thing. For me the main point aside from isolation is the weight as the thing lives in the rear lazarette (see picture). As the 54 is already very much tail-heavy I don’t want to put too much additional weight that I can avoid on the back.


Regards,

Arno Luijten
SV Luna,
A54-121





Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

Giovanni TESTA
 

Hi Alan,
may I have please a photo of the position/installation connections ?
many thanks
Cheers
Giovanni Testa
sv Eutikia SM 428

Il 13/02/2021 23:33, Alan Leslie ha scritto:
Hi Victor,

Our AMFA pump fell to bits years ago
I replaced it with a Johnson Viking 32 pump


The pumps and spare parts are available everywhere.
It is a very good pump.

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

Slavko Despotovic
 

Hello,

there is a kit for the pump that is delivered by Amel. I got a kit two weeks a go. 

Regards,
--
Slavko
SM 2000
#279 Bonne Anse in Portoroz


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

eric freedman
 

Hi,

I have been able to get the replacement rubber parts as well as the gear wheel from Maud at AMEL.

They were in stock last fall. Most of the pumps on board are not my favorite, however this large diaphragm pump will pump anything that will fit in the hose without jamming. I plan on keeping this one running as long as possible.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io [mailto:main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Leslie
Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2021 5:33 PM
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

 

Hi Victor,

Our AMFA pump fell to bits years ago
I replaced it with a Johnson Viking 32 pump


The pumps and spare parts are available everywhere.
It is a very good pump.

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

Alan Leslie
 

Hi Victor,

Our AMFA pump fell to bits years ago
I replaced it with a Johnson Viking 32 pump


The pumps and spare parts are available everywhere.
It is a very good pump.

Cheers

Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Gasadapter for US-gasbottle

Matt Salatino
 

We use this one. Easy fast conversion. Attaches directly to the regulator.
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~~~⛵️~~~Matt Salatino, A50#27, Speed of Life

On Feb 13, 2021, at 1:06 PM, Wolfgang Weber via groups.io <webercardio@...> wrote:

Hello to the group,
My Amel 54  and most AMELs are delivered original with camping-gaz bottles and connectors. 
You will not find a refill or exchange for the blue camping-gaz bottles in US-waters.
I found 1 place, where they refilled the bottles . Later I was told it was not legal.
Now I found a adaptor for US- gasbotteles to my original system.
For everyone leaving europe to US-waters I recommend to buy this adapter ( ID 9035)
Www(at)gasprofi24(dot)de   , 25 €
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162


Re: Forward Looking Sonar

Nick Fowle SM 404 Rascal
 

Ken,

where did you mount your transducer please? Not many instructions in the book of words from Echopilot on where best to place it.

Thanks

Nick
SV Rascal SM 404
Antigua


Re: Gasadapter for US-gasbottle

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 

This is the adaptor - fits directly to the blue gas regulator .
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54#162






Re: Gasadapter for US-gasbottle

Courtney Gorman
 

Wolfgang 
Here is my set up it came with the boat that way Amel 54 number 101 I believe the first owner modified it as you can see I still have the two blue camp bottles plus a fiberglass US bottle the system works flawlessly.
Courtney 
Trippin 
54#101
St Thomas


On Feb 13, 2021, at 2:06 PM, Wolfgang Weber via groups.io <webercardio@...> wrote:

Hello to the group,
My Amel 54  and most AMELs are delivered original with camping-gaz bottles and connectors. 
You will not find a refill or exchange for the blue camping-gaz bottles in US-waters.
I found 1 place, where they refilled the bottles . Later I was told it was not legal.
Now I found a adaptor for US- gasbotteles to my original system.
For everyone leaving europe to US-waters I recommend to buy this adapter ( ID 9035)
Www(at)gasprofi24(dot)de   , 25 €
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162


Re: Gasadapter for US-gasbottle

Dominique Sery
 

Interesting, thank you

Dominique
Irko A54#16


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

VICTOR MOLERO
 

I am impressed by the wealth of information and the huge asset that this group represents. Thank you sssssoooo much for all the comments, advice and ideas. Really helpful.
Again, thank you all.
Best.
Victor 


Gasadapter for US-gasbottle

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 

Hello to the group,
My Amel 54  and most AMELs are delivered original with camping-gaz bottles and connectors. 
You will not find a refill or exchange for the blue camping-gaz bottles in US-waters.
I found 1 place, where they refilled the bottles . Later I was told it was not legal.
Now I found a adaptor for US- gasbotteles to my original system.
For everyone leaving europe to US-waters I recommend to buy this adapter ( ID 9035)
Www(at)gasprofi24(dot)de   , 25 €
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

jlm@jlmertz.fr
 

Hello Wolfgang,

I am not on CottonBay and I don't remember the thickness(try with 1, 2 or 3mm),

on Amazone : https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B08S42HCSM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2JAB6BVYN4M35&th=1

or : http://www.tido.fr/Feuille-de-joint-FKM-Viton-a-decouper-20X20

or etc. etc. ..... with google ...

Jean Luc


Le 13/02/2021 à 18:16, Wolfgang Weber via groups.io a écrit :
Hello CottonBay,
Nice solution and a good emergency spare to have on board.
Which thickness did you use ?
Stay healthy and greetings 
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

Wolfgang Weber <webercardio@...>
 

Hello CottonBay,
Nice solution and a good emergency spare to have on board.
Which thickness did you use ?
Stay healthy and greetings 
Wolfgang Weber SY Elise Amel 54 #162


Re: BILGE WATER PUMP #replacement

 

Jose,

She is Chiara Fruzza and I am already in touch with her. Chiara is in charge of Foreign Trade.

Thanks,

Bill
CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 10:36 AM Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:
Bill hi

I don´y know wich position.
I bought one new pompe and spare kit one year ago directly from TF MARINE SRL.
One month ago I receive a phone call from one lady named FRUZZA ( fruzza@...  +39 0584-65101-(231)) explained me TF marine was included  at  GIANNESCHI operation and ask me if I would like receive a complete info about GIANNESCHI products.
She send me the files in attachment.
Wich are the Fruzza role in GIANNESCHI operation I don´t know.

Greetings
 
José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37




On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 15:11, CW Bill Rouse <brouse@...> wrote:
Jose, what is the position of the individuals you mentioned? I am looking for a high-level decision-maker at Gianneschi. Is Luigi Gianneschi that person? Do you have an email for him?


Victor, 

When you contact them tell them it is a TM 50:
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CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School
Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 
View My Training Calendar


On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 8:41 AM Jose Alegria <Josealegr@...> wrote:
Victor hi

Contact: 


They are now the distributors of TF MARINE - the builders of  TM50 24 V CC and they sell too the spare part kits.

fruzza@...

+39 0584-65101-(231)

Kind regards,

Gianneschi Pumps and Blowers S.r.l.

via Luigi Gianneschi 270 - 55041 Capezzano Pianore - Lucca - ITALIA
Tel +39 0584 365101 (r.a.) Fax +39 0584 969411
Web Site: www.gianneschi.net - E-mail: info@...




José Alegria
A55#003MERIT
PORTUGAL
josealegr@...
Mobile: + 351 91 866 30 37




On Sat, 13 Feb 2021 at 13:51, VICTOR MOLERO <victor.moleroxx@...> wrote:
Hello all.
My old AMFA bilge water pump broke the membrane and I haven't been able to find a replacement. Can anyone recomend where to find them? In case I don't, I will have to buy a new pump (which may not be a bad idea considering the age of the old one), so is there a brand and model that you recomend? I've seen Vetus, Jabsco, Johnson, but I really don't know which will be better or if there's any real difference between them... How many littres per minute do you recommend? Any other consideration that I should be aware of before buying the new pump?
Thanks in advance.
Victor
SM314 Alendoy

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