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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Frigoboat spares

Mark Erdos
 

Peter,

 

I am not a big fan of Coastal Climate Control due to a bad experience I had with them. I have since purchases Frigoboat parts from Go2Marine. I have found them less expensive (especially on shipping) and they ship worldwide: https://www.go2marine.com

 

Good luck with your repair.

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Skipper

Sailing Vessel - Cream Puff - SM2K - #275

Currently cruising - Guadeloupe

www.creampuff.us


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Servicing the GROHE thermostatic shower mixer

 

Peter,


They have more than listed on their website and can order anything from Italy.

In Italy, customerservice"at"veco.net

Best,

CW Bill Rouse
Admiral, Texas Navy
Commander Emeritus

Amel School  http://www.amelschool.com
720 Winnie St
Galveston Island, TX 77550

+1(832) 380-4970

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Peter Forbes ppsforbes@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Does anyone have a source of Frigoboay fridge spares.


Peter Forbes
Carango
Amel 54#035
St Maarten 


On 27 Mar 2018, at 18:09, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

If you have a look here :



It may be of some help, there are assembly instructions on a link on the page.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437




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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Frigoboat spares

Porter McRoberts
 

I’d skip Titan. 
>200% greater price for a clima than costal climate.  If that’s an indicator. 

Porter. 
54-152
Martinique. 

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Chuck Lacey clacey9@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

I'll second that. I ordered a replacement thermostat for the coffin fridge and a controller for the galley fridge. They walked me through the troubleshooting (simple) and it was the controller. They had it in the mail the same day. This was just two weeks ago. Friendly, knowledgeable and fast.

Chuck
Joy
SM2K
Brunswick, GA

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:42 PM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Peter. Really good folks at Costal Climate Control www..coastalclimatecontrol.com in Annapolis Amel savvy and good souls one and all. Probably a dealer where you are or in Martinique but if not, I have used these folks and they have earned my confidence time and time again.

 

If/when you swallow the anchor, I’m ready to help.

 

All The Best, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Frigoboat spares

 

 

Does anyone have a source of Frigoboay fridge spares.

 

Peter Forbes

Carango

Amel 54#035

St Maarten 





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] HULL GELCOAT REFURBISHING PROJECT - OLDER MARAMU

Carlos Presencia
 

Hi Alex, glad to hear that simpatico is goind to be like brand new..all the luck. 

Carlos
S/V Gavilan
Meltem 39

Sent from my Samsung device


-------- Original message --------
From: "alex.paquin@... [amelyachtowners]"
Date: 3/27/18 2:11 AM (GMT+01:00)
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] HULL GELCOAT REFURBISHING PROJECT - OLDER MARAMU

 

Hello to all, 

I just wanted to share in a few words what we are doing on the boat, for those who asked . The boat has been on the hard since January 22nd 2018, in NAVIMCA Shipyard, in the city of Cumaná, Venezuela, state of Sucre. (by the way it  is the oldest continuously-inhabited, European-established settlement in the continent).

In 2012-2013 Simpatico got new gelcoat on the deck, dodge, (removed), cockpit, deck storage spaces, and heads (fiberglass areas). At this time we also repowered with a Yanmar 4JH4-HTE engine (only engine available at the time in Venezuela) and refurbished engine room, the vinyl floors, upholstery, mattresses, refrigerator, nav instruments and electronics. Simpatico has no fuel generator and relies on 400W solar and 400W wind generators, with a 430 Ah battery bank.

I posted some pictures of the yard and the progress of the work, carried out by a friend of ours, which we estimate will last about 120 days. The yard just provides the space and the basic services.

We will be applying about 60 Kg of fresh gelcoat  by INTEQUIM), a primer and antifouling by Montana, all manufactured in Venezuela.

So basically the old gelcoat has been sanded down, all old layers of antifouling removed. So the fiberglass is being repaired where needed, especially the keel, the sides and the aft area which had a lot of damage, after 37 years in the water. So the gelcoat will be sprayed on, and sanded numerous times until we get a good smooth durable coat.

The costs of this job in local currency is very competitive (the yard will be about US$400 including use of the Travelift). It is 5 hours driving from home, but worth the trouble. The weather is good (28ºC) no rain, a little too windy for spraying, we hope it dies down a  bit in the coming days.

Alex Paquin

SIMPATICO

Older Maramu 1981

Hull#94

 


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] RE: Frigoboat spares

Chuck_Kim_Joy
 

I'll second that. I ordered a replacement thermostat for the coffin fridge and a controller for the galley fridge. They walked me through the troubleshooting (simple) and it was the controller. They had it in the mail the same day. This was just two weeks ago. Friendly, knowledgeable and fast.

Chuck
Joy
SM2K
Brunswick, GA

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:42 PM, 'Joel Potter' jfpottercys@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Hi Peter. Really good folks at Costal Climate Control www.coastalclimatecontrol.com in Annapolis Amel savvy and good souls one and all. Probably a dealer where you are or in Martinique but if not, I have used these folks and they have earned my confidence time and time again.

 

If/when you swallow the anchor, I’m ready to help.

 

All The Best, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com [mailto:amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Frigoboat spares

 

 

Does anyone have a source of Frigoboay fridge spares.

 

Peter Forbes

Carango

Amel 54#035

St Maarten 





Re: Frigoboat spares

SV Perigee
 

Hi Peter,

Missed you today.

Did you try the place behind Lagoonies, not sure about Electec, but they seem to have their fingers in many pies ...  Or maybe Titan Marine Air or Permafrost Marine Services, both here in SXM.

Best,

David
SV Perigee, SM#396
On anchor, Simpson's Bay Lagoon
St Maarten


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rats!

Craig Briggs
 

Hi Duane, 
If you Google "cuy recipes" you'll find some very tasty options for when you catch Sammy. We had cuy often in Ecuador and it does, indeed, taste just like "Sammy". The little cheeks are especially tasty,
Cheers, 
Craig SN#68


Re: Frigoboat spares

amelforme
 

Hi Peter. Really good folks at Costal Climate Control www.coastalclimatecontrol.com in Annapolis Amel savvy and good souls one and all. Probably a dealer where you are or in Martinique but if not, I have used these folks and they have earned my confidence time and time again.

 

If/when you swallow the anchor, I’m ready to help.

 

All The Best, Joel

Joel F. Potter/Cruising Yacht Specialist LLC

THE EXPERIENCED AMEL GUY

954 462 5869 office

954 812 2485 cell

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 6:11 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: Frigoboat spares

 

 

Does anyone have a source of Frigoboay fridge spares.

 

Peter Forbes

Carango

Amel 54#035

St Maarten 




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ballooner halyard ends

greatketch@...
 

Ryan,

OR equally possible... ours were redone using lines with the same Amel color schemes by somebody who didn't know how to (or care to?) splice...  

In any event, well seized or well spliced--all work.  Small eye splices on each end of the ballooner would be a good way to go.

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Manjack Cay, Abacos, Bahamas.


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Servicing the GROHE thermostatic shower mixer

Peter Forbes
 

Does anyone have a source of Frigoboay fridge spares.

Peter Forbes
Carango
Amel 54#035
St Maarten 


On 27 Mar 2018, at 18:09, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

If you have a look here :



It may be of some help, there are assembly instructions on a link on the page.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: Servicing the GROHE thermostatic shower mixer

Alan Leslie
 

If you have a look here :


It may be of some help, there are assembly instructions on a link on the page.

Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ballooner halyard ends

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Bill,
That's very interesting.  None of my halyards have splices in them.  The ends that attach to the head furler are tied on with a bowline, and the other ends are just whipped.  To extend the halyards, I've sewn the extension using whipping twine.  I thought that was the usual way it's done.

I also don't believe any of my lines are seized, I think everywhere that has an eye has a splice.  These lines are clearly not original, though.  But the previous owner did keep the same color scheme, sizes, and materials.

I'm inclined to request a normal, small eye splice on both ends of the new ballooner halyard.  No reason not to make it symmetric, right?

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 2:17 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

The eye isn't a problem going through the mast. We feed the eye in the main halyard up the mast and over the sheave it every time we take our mainsail down (which will be happening as soon as the wind dies down to fix the leech cord--but that is another story.)  


The core splice on covered high tech line is a lot easier and faster to do than a "regular" double braid eye splice.  I am not sure why Amel used seized loops on all the lines instead of splices, but I suspect is was more than "strong enough" and was at least a bit more "expeditious." 

There is no need to take them apart to thread the line through the mast and over the sheave.  Most of the lines I have replaced, I put "real" splices in.  There have been a few where the length of the slice would interfere with the function, and I kept seizings on those.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Manjack Cay, Abacos, Bahamas

 


---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Hi Bill,
Thanks for the great info, as always.  Your description makes perfect sense.  So it seems like my setup is missing a shackle (which might be in some drawer somewhere), and the strange splice-in-the-core is not a critical component (and maybe even a stopgap "fix" to a degrading line).  I should just get a normal eye spliced into both ends (one possibly with a shackle).  I wonder if I'll be able to feed the new rope through the mast with an eye on it... I think every other line that has a splice on one end is just whipped on the other end, so you can feed it through one way.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA





Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ballooner halyard ends

greatketch@...
 

The eye isn't a problem going through the mast. We feed the eye in the main halyard up the mast and over the sheave it every time we take our mainsail down (which will be happening as soon as the wind dies down to fix the leech cord--but that is another story.)  

The core splice on covered high tech line is a lot easier and faster to do than a "regular" double braid eye splice.  I am not sure why Amel used seized loops on all the lines instead of splices, but I suspect is was more than "strong enough" and was at least a bit more "expeditious." 

There is no need to take them apart to thread the line through the mast and over the sheave.  Most of the lines I have replaced, I put "real" splices in.  There have been a few where the length of the slice would interfere with the function, and I kept seizings on those.

Bill Kinney
SM160, Harmonie
Manjack Cay, Abacos, Bahamas

 


---In amelyachtowners@..., <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote :

Hi Bill,
Thanks for the great info, as always.  Your description makes perfect sense.  So it seems like my setup is missing a shackle (which might be in some drawer somewhere), and the strange splice-in-the-core is not a critical component (and maybe even a stopgap "fix" to a degrading line).  I should just get a normal eye spliced into both ends (one possibly with a shackle).  I wonder if I'll be able to feed the new rope through the mast with an eye on it... I think every other line that has a splice on one end is just whipped on the other end, so you can feed it through one way.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA




Servicing the GROHE thermostatic shower mixer

SV Perigee
 

Greetings,

Does anyone know the trick to opening the GROHE shower mixer for servicing?

Ours is etched with the letters indicating a model number: PA IX 4079 / IC  KIWA.

Thanks, in anticipation.

David
SV Perigee SM#396
St Maarten



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: ballooner halyard ends

Ryan Meador
 

Hi Bill,
Thanks for the great info, as always.  Your description makes perfect sense.  So it seems like my setup is missing a shackle (which might be in some drawer somewhere), and the strange splice-in-the-core is not a critical component (and maybe even a stopgap "fix" to a degrading line).  I should just get a normal eye spliced into both ends (one possibly with a shackle).  I wonder if I'll be able to feed the new rope through the mast with an eye on it... I think every other line that has a splice on one end is just whipped on the other end, so you can feed it through one way.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:17 PM, greatketch@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Ryan,


It is a little tough to describe, because if there are standard terms for this, I am not sure what they are, but I hope this makes sense...

The end of the ballooner halyard that comes down from the top of the mast (the "high end") should have a loop on it, and the other end (the "low end") should have a shackle.  The shackle attached to the rail IS normal, and is there just to secure the "high end" by its loop while it is not being used.

While putting the sail UP the loop on the "high end" of the halyard is hooked on the "latching mouse" at the top of the sail, and the shackle on the "low end" of the halyard is attached to the loop on the "high end" of the halyard, allowing you to pull it back down--free of the mouse--once the sail is latched on top of the foil.

When using the "de-hooking" mouse, the shackle on the "low end" of the halyard is attached to the loop on the de-latching mouse AND to the loop on the "high end" of the halyard, letting you pull it up, and then back down again.

The rigging company should understand a "spliced loop" on one end, and a "spliced loop with shackle" on the other.

The only change we made to the original setup was to replace the key shackle with a snap shackle.

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Manjack Cay, Abacos, Bahamas


---In amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com, wrote :


Hi all,
I'm getting some new running rigging, and while figuring out what is needed, I was quite confused by the ends of the halyard that I believe is for the ballooner (which I have yet to fly since I bought the boat).  I've attached a couple photos of the two ends.

The end at the mast has that loop in it... is that normal?  What is it for?  How do I instruct the rope company to make that?

And on the other end, it appears the shackle is permanently attached to the boat, not to the line... is that also normal?  I see a shackle in the ballooner section of the Amel manual, but it doesn't clearly show how it attaches.  I know want to hook the two ends of the line together to form a loop before sending the ballooner up so I can get it back down.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] lost my bowthruster

christian alby <calbyy@...>
 

thanks for reply
I am in Guadeloupe - Marina du bas du fort
still searching even though limited by traffic in channel , poor visibility & loads of mud ...

christian alby - Désirade VIII - maramu 116 - Marina Bas du Fort Guadeloupe

Christian Alby - France home fixe +33 (0)5 34 39 06 02 home Internet +33 (0)9 60 37 22 72 mobile +33 (0)6 42 69 07 80


Le ‎lundi‎ ‎26‎ ‎mars‎ ‎2018‎ ‎18‎:‎46‎:‎31‎ ‎-04, Courtney Gorman Itsfun1@... [amelyachtowners] a écrit :


 

Hi Porter Courtney here I am on dock 3 and here is my Cell I will be around the boat tomorrow afternoon as Alban is stopping by. Please come by if you can or call 7656038743

Cheers 
Courtney 
sv Trippin 


On Mar 26, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Porter McRoberts portermcroberts@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Sad situation. Dive gear is the answer.  I’ll go over for an oring. Grill grate. Dinghy lock. Anything. Replacement effort>>>finding effort. At least for me. 

A set of teen girls hungry for cash also helps. 

Porter 
Amel 54-152
Arriving Marin, Martinique!  

Excuse the errors.  
Sent from my IPhone 

On Mar 26, 2018, at 8:43 AM, James Alton lokiyawl2@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Christina Alby,


   Sorry to hear about the loss of your bow thruster.  If I understand you correctly, the thruster simply feel out due to the loss of the retaining bolts so it may be undamaged?  If so, I would be inclined to do a pretty serious search for the bow thruster. The assembly being fibreglass is quite light so might not sink far into the mud.  I would suggest hiring a diver to have a good look to see if the unit can be recovered.  If the water clarity is really poor, an underwater metal detector should pick up the metal drive shaft. 

   The shaft hole could be closed with a thick (3/4- 1”)  piece of plywood (be sure that the glue is exterior grade) inside and outside of the hole + a compressible gasket using a bolt passing through the center of the plywood to compress the gasket.  

   There is recent discussion on the BB about plugging the shaft hole and filling the exterior cutout.
 
   I really hope that you can find your old bow thruster.

Best of luck,

James
SV Sueño
Maramu #220

On Mar 26, 2018, at 6:18 AM, calbyy@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:


during port movement to take in diesel & cast off to Europe, I lost my bowthruster (mechanical part) due apparently to 3 screws linking tube to motor coming off (my fault leaving protection on & masking the screws & collar when moving the bowthruster asm).

went down in about 1 M of mud; definetly lost.

I am building a dummy in steel to enter the well & close the ingress of water but also to resist the water surge in well when sailing in heavy seas.

Anybody tried it before ? tips, clues on design, risks (bolt shearing, steel dummy damaging hull ...).

I shall go slow & look for the high pressure zone to avoid heavy seas but the passage from Guadeloupe to Gibraltar is minimum 21 to 26 days ... with lows hitting the north Atlantic ...

all ideas welcome, fellows.

fair winds


christian alby - Désirade VIII - maramu 116 - now in Guadeloupe, Marina Bas du Fort




Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rats!

Paul Osterberg
 

Duane!
Rats typically move close to the wall and avoid open space. When we had a rat aboard we caught him already the first night when we finally got a real spring rat trap.
We took away all rat goodies we could find. and set the trap with what we know rats likes, actually they like thing like mars bars or cheese. 
We put the trap in the galley bench along  the "wall"  then we put some obstruction along the wall to make some kind of a corridor the rat has to pas along to reach the goodies. We then took hide in the cock pit, after ca 10 minutes we heard the rat running along in the cabin.  Snapp the trap gone but no rat, as the rat came from the wrong direction in the corridor, we amended the corridor to a one way and in the second attempt we got him
Good luck
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rats!

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Duane,

yes he was some rat. We told the unfortunate boat owner he was too valuable to kill. One that smart with training would have been worth a fortune. Seriously though. In Rural New Zealand rats are not uncommon. Mostly we keep them out of the house but occasionally in the winter they try to move in. We use a poison to kill them. It is a block bait and an important feature is that after taking the bait and before they die they get very thirsty so they leave the house to find water. Thus no smelly carcasses. So long as they didn't have access to water to drink on the boat I would expect they would leave the boat to find fresh water. Might be worth a try.

Kind Regards

Danny

SM 299 Ocean Pearl 

On 27 March 2018 at 13:15 "sailor63109@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Danny,


I certainly hope our rat doesn't have that advanced a degree in Trap Avoidance.  But now, we are going on 10 days since he chewed through a water hose under the galley sink so he may be of the same school.  We currently have three spring traps, 10 glue boards and one electrocution tunnel (I'm not kidding about that one, they had it at Lowes).

I think he's under the freezer (based on the fluffly insulation coming from there) and am thinking about a wild solution like flooding that space and then putting a gazillion volts to the water....or shotgun(s)...or maybe I need a vacation.

I did read this morning that one should not handle the traps without gloves since your skin oil will alert the rat to your plans.  I wish the manufacturers would have mentioned that one.  Mice didn't seem to care back in the midwest.

We're keeping the watertight bulkhead doors closed in hopes we can isolate him to the main cabin.  He could still find the conduit ways, but I've plugged them with copper pot scrubbers.  This is getting to be a protracted war.

By the way, we named him Sammy (remember the Rat Pack?).  That way Peg doesn't have to say the word "Rat".  Just saying the word makes her nauseous.  I might be living alone if Sammy doesn't take us up on one of our "presents".

Duane

 


 


Re: ballooner halyard ends

greatketch@...
 

Ryan,

It is a little tough to describe, because if there are standard terms for this, I am not sure what they are, but I hope this makes sense...

The end of the ballooner halyard that comes down from the top of the mast (the "high end") should have a loop on it, and the other end (the "low end") should have a shackle.  The shackle attached to the rail IS normal, and is there just to secure the "high end" by its loop while it is not being used.

While putting the sail UP the loop on the "high end" of the halyard is hooked on the "latching mouse" at the top of the sail, and the shackle on the "low end" of the halyard is attached to the loop on the "high end" of the halyard, allowing you to pull it back down--free of the mouse--once the sail is latched on top of the foil.

When using the "de-hooking" mouse, the shackle on the "low end" of the halyard is attached to the loop on the de-latching mouse AND to the loop on the "high end" of the halyard, letting you pull it up, and then back down again.

The rigging company should understand a "spliced loop" on one end, and a "spliced loop with shackle" on the other.

The only change we made to the original setup was to replace the key shackle with a snap shackle.

Bill Kinney
Sm160, Harmonie
Manjack Cay, Abacos, Bahamas


---In amelyachtowners@..., <ryan.d.meador@...> wrote :

Hi all,
I'm getting some new running rigging, and while figuring out what is needed, I was quite confused by the ends of the halyard that I believe is for the ballooner (which I have yet to fly since I bought the boat).  I've attached a couple photos of the two ends.

The end at the mast has that loop in it... is that normal?  What is it for?  How do I instruct the rope company to make that?

And on the other end, it appears the shackle is permanently attached to the boat, not to the line... is that also normal?  I see a shackle in the ballooner section of the Amel manual, but it doesn't clearly show how it attaches.  I know want to hook the two ends of the line together to form a loop before sending the ballooner up so I can get it back down.

Thanks,
Ryan
SM 233 Iteration
Boston, MA, USA


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Rats!

Duane Siegfri
 

Danny,

I certainly hope our rat doesn't have that advanced a degree in Trap Avoidance.  But now, we are going on 10 days since he chewed through a water hose under the galley sink so he may be of the same school.  We currently have three spring traps, 10 glue boards and one electrocution tunnel (I'm not kidding about that one, they had it at Lowes).

I think he's under the freezer (based on the fluffly insulation coming from there) and am thinking about a wild solution like flooding that space and then putting a gazillion volts to the water....or shotgun(s)...or maybe I need a vacation.

I did read this morning that one should not handle the traps without gloves since your skin oil will alert the rat to your plans.  I wish the manufacturers would have mentioned that one.  Mice didn't seem to care back in the midwest.

We're keeping the watertight bulkhead doors closed in hopes we can isolate him to the main cabin.  He could still find the conduit ways, but I've plugged them with copper pot scrubbers.  This is getting to be a protracted war.

By the way, we named him Sammy (remember the Rat Pack?).  That way Peg doesn't have to say the word "Rat".  Just saying the word makes her nauseous.  I might be living alone if Sammy doesn't take us up on one of our "presents".

Duane