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Re: Spade 180 on a 54

Courtney Gorman
 

Haldun could you comment about how the spade does in tougher anchoring situations?  Poor bottom, deep, ect
thanks
Courtney
Trippin
54 #101 


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Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Peter,
It is the 55kg Spade on the picture, it fits perfectly when snug. Wasi is demoted as the second anchor. Sorry, i'm away and i can not attach any photos now.  Windlass is strong enough to handle 55 kgs. No problems so far for about 10 years.
Cheers
Haldun 
svAmanin A54#164
Gokova

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Konu: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Hi Haldun

Thanks for a quick answer. Sorry i misspelled your name.

Some questions which you hopefully could easily  answer:
  1. Do you think its the 55kg which is on the picture?
  2. Did you have a second anchor next to the Spade 55Kg? if so which?
  3. Did you have any problems with fitting it to the bow? Any specials?
  4. When winching it up and back into its fitting, any problems?
Best regards

\Peter SY Maiken A54 #52

Re: SM2000 - Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer? #galley

 

Guillaume,

Eric SM Kimberlite also did this and posted some photos: Search under photos for "dishwasher"

Here are a few photos:
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 9:25 AM Cathy & Guillaume via Groups.Io <carpathia3=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Dear Paul, this is something I have been thinking of doing... Would you have any schematics / pictures /  list of items you could share? Many thanks,

Guillaume
Carpathia III - SM2K #293
Malta

Re: Spade 180 on a 54

Halidun Karagoz
 

Peter,
It is the 55kg Spade on the picture, it fits perfectly when snug. Wasi is demoted as the second anchor. Sorry, i'm away and i can not attach any photos now.  Windlass is strong enough to handle 55 kgs. No problems so far for about 10 years.
Cheers
Haldun 
svAmanin A54#164
Gokova

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Konu: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Hi Haldun

Thanks for a quick answer. Sorry i misspelled your name.

Some questions which you hopefully could easily  answer:
  1. Do you think its the 55kg which is on the picture?
  2. Did you have a second anchor next to the Spade 55Kg? if so which?
  3. Did you have any problems with fitting it to the bow? Any specials?
  4. When winching it up and back into its fitting, any problems?
Best regards

\Peter SY Maiken A54 #52

Re: SM2000 - Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer? #galley

Cathy & Guillaume
 

Dear Paul, this is something I have been thinking of doing... Would you have any schematics / pictures /  list of items you could share? Many thanks,

Guillaume
Carpathia III - SM2K #293
Malta

Re: Rub Rail insert

 

Pat,

I saw the rub rail "rubbery" insert like your vintage SM... when it arrived from France for another boat, it was coiled in a circle of about 2' diameter
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 7:03 AM Patrick McAneny via Groups.Io <sailw32=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
I contacted Maud about buying a new rub rail insert ,she cannot provide an estimate for shipping. We are thinking it may be much more than we first estimated. Has anyone had the inserts shipped to the US., and tell us what the shipping cost were. The inserts are less than $900. I fear the shipping could be more than that.
Thank You,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

Re: A55: fresh water pump system

 

IMPORTANT- Read this first
You earlier said that the "fresh water pump runs continuously unless turned off." It may be running because it is not achieving the correct pressure, adjusting the pressure switch might correct the continued running, but it will not correct the correct pressure. I originally assumed that you either have an open leak, a closed leak. The closed leak would be water passing back through the one-way valve. However, if fresh water is not leaking into or out of the boat, it is most likely a suction leak that is causing the pump to malfunction. the suction side of the pump MUST be sealed. You cannot see a suction leak. Find the copper tube from the water tank and check it and the hose attached...check carefully all connections up to and including the fitting at the pump.

To answer your questions:
A defective solenoid rinse valve on the water maker - Check by removing the output hose from the valve to see water flow.
Defective or out of adjustment Pressure Switch - Google SQUARE D PRESSURE SWITCH adjust. Don't try to adjust this unless experienced...AND...your symptoms do not indicate a need.
The pressure was showing at 1.6 bar this morning whereas we understand that we require 1.8 / 2 bar.  1.6 bar is a little low, but not low enough to try to adjust the pressure switch unless you have read all of the material published and you are sure that you understand.



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On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 8:45 AM Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...> wrote:

 

 

Yes, the lack of flow is caused by a lack of sufficient pressure. In my experience, the lack of pressure can be caused by:

  1. An open tap 

No

  1. A break in the freshwater circuit

No

  1. A defective solenoid rinse valve on the water maker

Don’t believe so, how to check

  1. Defective solenoid flush valves on any toilet

No

  1. Defective anchor wash valve on the anchor wash (freshwater option)

No

  1. A defective impeller in the freshwater pump. (this pump has a metal impeller)

Recently checked by Amel Caraibe and found to be good

  1. A broken key securing the impeller to the shaft

Above

  1. A defective one-way valve 

We have looked at this and it appears to be functioning as it should, it closes when you suck / blow

  1. Debris in the one-way valve

As above

  1. Defective or out of adjustment Pressure Switch

How to check

1 - 5 will result in a loss of freshwater.

It doesn’t look like these

6 & 7 will probably result in zero pressure and no loss of freshwater

Or these

8 & 9 can result in no pressure to partial pressure with no loss of freshwater

The aluminium sleeve / raising piece that connected the fresh water tank guage to the tank disintegrated Amel Caraibe replaced this with a plastic piece. We have done our best to remove the debris but it is possible that there was some remaining.

10 will probably not be your issue because you said the pump is running constantly with insufficient pressure

How is that adjusted please. The pressure was showing at 1.6 bar this morning whereas we understand that we require 1.8 / 2 bar.

 

Stuart, the reason I did not go into detail in my first response is that you did not mention any loss of freshwater. The accumulator tank allows your freshwater pump to cycle less and have longer non-running periods. The tank allows for the accumulation of water pressure because of an expandable internal bladder which is supported by air pressure on one side. If/when the internal bladder fails or air pressure supporting the bladder reduces, the pump will cycle more often.

Really appreciated Bill, we still need to find a cycle pump and try to pump the bladder up

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 23 February 2020 12:00
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A55: fresh water pump system

 

Yes, the lack of flow is caused by a lack of sufficient pressure. In my experience, the lack of pressure can be caused by:

  1. An open tap
  2. A break in the freshwater circuit
  3. A defective solenoid rinse valve on the water maker
  4. Defective solenoid flush valves on any toilet
  5. Defective anchor wash valve on the anchor wash (freshwater option)
  6. A defective impeller in the freshwater pump. (this pump has a metal impeller)
  7. A broken key securing the impeller to the shaft
  8. A defective one-way valve 
  9. Debris in the one-way valve
  10. Defective or out of adjustment Pressure Switch

1 - 5 will result in a loss of freshwater.

6 & 7 will probably result in zero pressure and no loss of freshwater

8 & 9 can result in no pressure to partial pressure with no loss of freshwater

10 will probably not be your issue because you said the pump is running constantly with insufficient pressure

 

Stuart, the reason I did not go into detail in my first response is that you did not mention any loss of freshwater. The accumulator tank allows your freshwater pump to cycle less and have longer non-running periods. The tank allows for the accumulation of water pressure because of an expandable internal bladder which is supported by air pressure on one side. If/when the internal bladder fails or air pressure supporting the bladder reduces, the pump will cycle more often.

 

I hope this clarification helps. I am sure that you understand the accuracy of remote diagnosis, especially with limited information.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 8:45 AM Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Stuart, I would try the following if the pump runs continuously.  The cause is likely a lack of pressure in the Accumulator tank.  At the tank, there is a blue cover which you can remove and where you can hook up a bicycle pump.  Turn off the pump and pump it up so the pressure shown on the meter is 2 bar.  See pic.  I hope this helps!  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem

Re: A55: fresh water pump system

Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...>
 

 

 

Yes, the lack of flow is caused by a lack of sufficient pressure. In my experience, the lack of pressure can be caused by:

  1. An open tap 

No

  1. A break in the freshwater circuit

No

  1. A defective solenoid rinse valve on the water maker

Don’t believe so, how to check

  1. Defective solenoid flush valves on any toilet

No

  1. Defective anchor wash valve on the anchor wash (freshwater option)

No

  1. A defective impeller in the freshwater pump. (this pump has a metal impeller)

Recently checked by Amel Caraibe and found to be good

  1. A broken key securing the impeller to the shaft

Above

  1. A defective one-way valve 

We have looked at this and it appears to be functioning as it should, it closes when you suck / blow

  1. Debris in the one-way valve

As above

  1. Defective or out of adjustment Pressure Switch

How to check

1 - 5 will result in a loss of freshwater.

It doesn’t look like these

6 & 7 will probably result in zero pressure and no loss of freshwater

Or these

8 & 9 can result in no pressure to partial pressure with no loss of freshwater

The aluminium sleeve / raising piece that connected the fresh water tank guage to the tank disintegrated Amel Caraibe replaced this with a plastic piece. We have done our best to remove the debris but it is possible that there was some remaining.

10 will probably not be your issue because you said the pump is running constantly with insufficient pressure

How is that adjusted please. The pressure was showing at 1.6 bar this morning whereas we understand that we require 1.8 / 2 bar.

 

Stuart, the reason I did not go into detail in my first response is that you did not mention any loss of freshwater. The accumulator tank allows your freshwater pump to cycle less and have longer non-running periods. The tank allows for the accumulation of water pressure because of an expandable internal bladder which is supported by air pressure on one side. If/when the internal bladder fails or air pressure supporting the bladder reduces, the pump will cycle more often.

Really appreciated Bill, we still need to find a cycle pump and try to pump the bladder up

 

 

 

 

 

From: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io <main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io> On Behalf Of CW Bill Rouse
Sent: 23 February 2020 12:00
To: main@AmelYachtOwners.groups.io Notification <main@amelyachtowners.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] A55: fresh water pump system

 

Yes, the lack of flow is caused by a lack of sufficient pressure. In my experience, the lack of pressure can be caused by:

  1. An open tap
  2. A break in the freshwater circuit
  3. A defective solenoid rinse valve on the water maker
  4. Defective solenoid flush valves on any toilet
  5. Defective anchor wash valve on the anchor wash (freshwater option)
  6. A defective impeller in the freshwater pump. (this pump has a metal impeller)
  7. A broken key securing the impeller to the shaft
  8. A defective one-way valve 
  9. Debris in the one-way valve
  10. Defective or out of adjustment Pressure Switch

1 - 5 will result in a loss of freshwater.

6 & 7 will probably result in zero pressure and no loss of freshwater

8 & 9 can result in no pressure to partial pressure with no loss of freshwater

10 will probably not be your issue because you said the pump is running constantly with insufficient pressure

 

Stuart, the reason I did not go into detail in my first response is that you did not mention any loss of freshwater. The accumulator tank allows your freshwater pump to cycle less and have longer non-running periods. The tank allows for the accumulation of water pressure because of an expandable internal bladder which is supported by air pressure on one side. If/when the internal bladder fails or air pressure supporting the bladder reduces, the pump will cycle more often.

 

I hope this clarification helps. I am sure that you understand the accuracy of remote diagnosis, especially with limited information.

 

Best,

 

CW Bill Rouse Amel Owners Yacht School

Address: 720 Winnie, Galveston Island, Texas 77550 

 

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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 8:45 AM Joerg Esdorn via Groups.Io <jhe1313=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Stuart, I would try the following if the pump runs continuously.  The cause is likely a lack of pressure in the Accumulator tank.  At the tank, there is a blue cover which you can remove and where you can hook up a bicycle pump.  Turn off the pump and pump it up so the pressure shown on the meter is 2 bar.  See pic.  I hope this helps!  

Joerg Esdorn
A55 Kincsem

Re: Size of main anchor for Super Maramu

Patrick McAneny
 

Paul, I just watched some video of a Rocna testing, resetting after a 180 shift,which did show a problem resetting until the boat slowed to one kt. ,They only had a 3:1 scope , I probably never have less than 5:1 and more in strong conditions.They did not test the Mantus ,wish they had. They look so similar in design ,but there may be differences ,that make a difference. I will now simulate myself 180 degree shifts and see how my Rocna performs.While I have experienced many wind shifts over the years ,perhaps never a sudden 180.
 FYI ,Georgetown Marina went belly up and foreclosed on,was auctioned off in Jan. No surprise there,or that there is a massive amount of pension money missing,the Feds are now involved ,with a $2.6 million lien.Glad it did not happen while your boat was there for repairs. Mine was and I had to charge them with fraud ,to get them to return a $10,000.00 deposit they fully intended to keep. 
Pat
SM Shenanigans



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Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2020 5:37 am
Subject: Re: [AmelYachtOwners] Size of main anchor for Super Maramu


Pat
We will replace our 40 kg Rocna. The two first year we were super pleased with the performance we had encounter several bad gale nights without moving an inch, but the last year we have noticed that when wind shift 180 degree we have dragged even at moderate winds, that has happened during several occasions, I have googled and found several post about the relatively poor reseting properties of the Rocna. My next anchor will be a Spade.
Paul on SY Kerpa SM#259

Re: Buying a Sharki

Ivica Curlica
 

Tnx 

pon, 24. velj 2020. 12:45 marklesparkle59 <marklesparkle59@...> je napisao:

Three problems I am addressing on Sharki#96 right now are the headlinings and the bulkhead in the aft cabin.  The 9mm bulkhead rots because water gets in between the plywood and the fibreglass of the cockpit, from the pocket behind the Mizzen in my case. First signs were a dark patch in the middle of the bulkhead. The water sits in hollow pockets, I think for years. Headlinings have been discussed on the forum recently and can be kept up with batons. I am replacing mine with a softer fabric and adding 5mm of insulation. 
The wind, depth and speed electronics, (B and G hornet 4) has expired after 36 years. The gelcoat on the deck will need attention .
Mark Porter
Sea Hobo
Sharki#96




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Re: Spade 180 on a 54

Peter Tiner
 

Hi Haldun

Thanks for a quick answer. Sorry i misspelled your name.

Some questions which you hopefully could easily  answer:
  1. Do you think its the 55kg which is on the picture?
  2. Did you have a second anchor next to the Spade 55Kg? if so which?
  3. Did you have any problems with fitting it to the bow? Any specials?
  4. When winching it up and back into its fitting, any problems?
Best regards

\Peter SY Maiken A54 #52

Re: Spade 180 on a 54

Halidun Karagoz
 

Hi Peter,
Yes i have a 55kg Spade, and i am very happy with it.
Cheers,
Haldun
sv Amanin A54#164
Gokova

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Konu: [AmelYachtOwners] Spade 180 on a 54

Hi all Amelians

I have a Wasi Bugel 42Kg fitted to my 54 and i´m going to switch to i think a 44Kg Spade. Yes, i know it´s big but i´m into "when your neighbors starts laughing , then it´s big enough". 
Now the tricky question, does it fit? 
Has anyone experience or have seen such on a 54?
I did come across a pic which looks like a 44 or even 55Kg on a 54, Amanin (see below). When browsing the forum i see that Mr Halidun Karagoz has been around here and maybe still is. If so i´d happy for some comments.

Regards

\Peter  SY Maiken A54 #52

Rub Rail insert

Patrick McAneny
 

I contacted Maud about buying a new rub rail insert ,she cannot provide an estimate for shipping. We are thinking it may be much more than we first estimated. Has anyone had the inserts shipped to the US., and tell us what the shipping cost were. The inserts are less than $900. I fear the shipping could be more than that.
Thank You,
Pat
SM Shenanigans

Spade 180 on a 54

Peter Tiner
 

Hi all Amelians

I have a Wasi Bugel 42Kg fitted to my 54 and i´m going to switch to i think a 44Kg Spade. Yes, i know it´s big but i´m into "when your neighbors starts laughing , then it´s big enough". 
Now the tricky question, does it fit? 
Has anyone experience or have seen such on a 54?
I did come across a pic which looks like a 44 or even 55Kg on a 54, Amanin (see below). When browsing the forum i see that Mr Halidun Karagoz has been around here and maybe still is. If so i´d happy for some comments.

Regards

\Peter  SY Maiken A54 #52

Re: Buying a Sharki

marklesparkle59
 

Three problems I am addressing on Sharki#96 right now are the headlinings and the bulkhead in the aft cabin.  The 9mm bulkhead rots because water gets in between the plywood and the fibreglass of the cockpit, from the pocket behind the Mizzen in my case. First signs were a dark patch in the middle of the bulkhead. The water sits in hollow pockets, I think for years. Headlinings have been discussed on the forum recently and can be kept up with batons. I am replacing mine with a softer fabric and adding 5mm of insulation. 
The wind, depth and speed electronics, (B and G hornet 4) has expired after 36 years. The gelcoat on the deck will need attention .
Mark Porter
Sea Hobo
Sharki#96




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Re: Buying a Sharki

Aras
 

Once you have a good once over for general condition (pay attention to how it is kept) be sure to focus on drive shaft thru- hulls mast and rig.   
Mine looked great and I knew what I needed to replaced from the onset.
The general condition will give you clues where to focus.
Caveat Emptor as they say 
Bon chance

Aras
Sharki # 163

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020, 5:13 AM Ivica Curlica <ivica.curlica@...> wrote:
In mid march i will go with mine mechanic in Lefkas, Greece to look at Sharki any tips on what to look for on the boat as special problems on Sharki. 

Buying a Sharki

Ivica Curlica
 

In mid march i will go with mine mechanic in Lefkas, Greece to look at Sharki any tips on what to look for on the boat as special problems on Sharki. 

Re: SM2000 - Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer? #galley

Paul Osterberg
 

We ”replaced” our dishwasher, I built a freezer using polystyrene panels 10 cm in the sides, 15 cm in the bottom, in the top we used 13 cm. Total volume about 40 liters. As liner we used a ca 1 mm Polyethylene sheet that was easily formed with a heat gun. the compressor is cooled by circulating the freshwater, works excellent. Have not measured the energy it draws, but we notice that the compressor runs significant less time than the compressor for the front opening fridge. Temperature in the freezer around -10 C, can easily be down to -18 if one so wishes 
Paul on SY Kerpa SM #259
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SM2000 - Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer? #galley

Dominique Guenot
 

We are not using our dishwasher which is just taking space.

Have you replaced your dishwasher by a fridge/freezer?  or something else? 

Any experience greatly appreciated 

Thanks  
Dominique Guenot 
sv Viva #374
Papeete, French Polynesia  

Re: Beam IV : A55 ; Bonaire , [AmelYachtOwners] A55: fresh water pump system

 

The air pressure to the accumulator tank should be about 10-15% less than the pump cutoff pressure as noted on the pressure gauge of the water pump.
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 11:03 AM Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...> wrote:
Thank you Paul ,

I ‘l follow that protocol , thank you .

Bill’’s suggestion is really useful I’l follow up on that & report back.

Good too to have the further suggestion which we’ll keep in mind .
There should be plenty of bicycle pumps on this Dutch island...

Stuart  

Stuart Hemingway AA Dipl DMS RIBA


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188-192 Sutton court Road,

Chiswick,

London,

W4 3HR

 

Telephone

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From the US  :    561 371 2321


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On 23 Feb 2020, at 11:33, Paul Stascavage via Groups.Io <pstas2003=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Stuart,

Welcome to the forum my good friend. You will find a wealth of information here as well as some incredibly nice, knowledgeable, and helpful people.

Just an FYI. It is best if you include your boat name, model, hull number and location below your signature line. This information will assist those who respond as there are variations among models and hull numbers. Additionally,  knowing your location someone can often suggest services of suppliers or contractors in your area.

All the Best,

Paul Stascavage
S/V Rita Kathryn  SM #466

RitaKathryn.com

Currently Cruising Bahamas




Beam IV : A55 ; Bonaire , [AmelYachtOwners] A55: fresh water pump system

Stuart Hemingway <stuart@...>
 

Thank you Paul ,

I ‘l follow that protocol , thank you .

Bill’’s suggestion is really useful I’l follow up on that & report back.

Good too to have the further suggestion which we’ll keep in mind .
There should be plenty of bicycle pumps on this Dutch island...

Stuart  

Stuart Hemingway AA Dipl DMS RIBA


Symbiotic Relationships Ltd.,


 Grove Park Studios,

188-192 Sutton court Road,

Chiswick,

London,

W4 3HR

 

Telephone

From the UK  :    001 561 371 2321

From the US  :    561 371 2321


E . Studio@...

W. www.groveparkstudios.co.uk.


On 23 Feb 2020, at 11:33, Paul Stascavage via Groups.Io <pstas2003@...> wrote:

Stuart,

Welcome to the forum my good friend. You will find a wealth of information here as well as some incredibly nice, knowledgeable, and helpful people.

Just an FYI. It is best if you include your boat name, model, hull number and location below your signature line. This information will assist those who respond as there are variations among models and hull numbers. Additionally,  knowing your location someone can often suggest services of suppliers or contractors in your area.

All the Best,

Paul Stascavage
S/V Rita Kathryn  SM #466

RitaKathryn.com

Currently Cruising Bahamas