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Re: Leros marina, Greece

Craig & Katherine Briggs SN 68 Sangaris Tropic Isle Harbor, FL
 


The two choices on Leros are 1), Leros Marina Evros SA with it's near-to-town location and 2) the Agmar Marine SA with two locations - the Lakki Marina right in town and the Partheni Boat Yard adjacent to the airport on the north end of the island. Agmar is less expensive; their Partheni Boatyard is excellent, if a bit dusty, and you walk to the airport if you're leaving the boat. You can live aboard, with water and electric available throughout the yard and you can do your own work. We rented a nearby cottage for the two weeks we were there, rather than live aboard - great fun. As Peter pointed out they do have their own work force if you want them - my experience was they are very talented. Good chandlery, too.
Craig and Katherine, SN68 Sangaris

---In amelyachtowners@..., <ianjudyjenkins@...> wrote :

Hi Mohammad, Aty and Peter, 


Thanks for your replies. Crete is is on the list--the home of my great grandmother--but probably Leros first. Mohammad, I shall be interested to hear  in due course how you get on and whether there is electricity and water available ashore.


 Have a great 2017,


 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hyeres



From: amelyachtowners@... <amelyachtowners@...> on behalf of 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: 28 December 2016 17:36:29
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Leros marina, Greece
 

Hi Ian;

 

After doing some research and asking some friends that know the area, we will most likely be leaving Kokomo in Leros on the Hard for the next 4-5 months. We have had good reports so far. We can give you more input of what we experience afterwards.

 

Mohammad and Aty

Amel 54 #099

B&B Kokomo

 

 

Re: Leros marina, Greece

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Mohammad, Aty and Peter, 


Thanks for your replies. Crete is is on the list--the home of my great grandmother--but probably Leros first. Mohammad, I shall be interested to hear  in due course how you get on and whether there is electricity and water available ashore.


 Have a great 2017,


 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hyeres



From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of 'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 28 December 2016 17:36:29
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Leros marina, Greece
 

Hi Ian;

 

After doing some research and asking some friends that know the area, we will most likely be leaving Kokomo in Leros on the Hard for the next 4-5 months. We have had good reports so far. We can give you more input of what we experience afterwards.

 

Mohammad and Aty

Amel 54 #099

B&B Kokomo

 

 

Re: New Owner!

Derick Gates
 

John,

Congratulations on pulling the trigger!  Brava is just a few boats down the dock to seaward, and I return on the 30th to Le Marin.  Let me know if you need anything at all. I will be leaving Le Marin approximately January 6th.

Derick Gates
SM2K#400
Brava
Currently in slip 487, Le Marin, Martinique

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster LIFTING motor

pjn.mccallin@...
 

Just a note to thank all who have responded regarding my burnt out motor.

I will try and make contact tomorrow to have a motor sent to me in St Maarten and take it from there, as to why it burnt out I haven't a clue but at 13years old I suppose one should expect breakdowns Bit like my knee!!

Regards Patrick.

Super Maramu 2000 No. 397

Oliver Buhlert
 

Hello,

our dream is almost over and we have to think about selling our boat which we really, really love.

We bought it from an owner who took very much care of the boat and sold it to us because we went on care very good for it.

That's why we are looking for someone who goes on with the "tradition" and is knowing that an Amel is not just a boat!!!

We are right know in the Caribbean.

If someone knows someone who is interested in a well maintained Super Maramu 2000 build 2003, let us know.

Oliver & Sabrina

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster LIFTING motor

Andrew & Kate Lamb
 

Hello

 

I replaced the motor for the linear actuator – the model we have is ACLE105 – I got this direct from SNT the original manufacturer. Amel did not have one.

 

Their details are :

 

SNT

2 rue Marcel DASSAULT

ZI de la Croix St Nicolas

94510 La queue en brie

France

 

Email : snt.contact “at” snt.tm.fr or secretariat “at” snt.tm.fr

Web : www.snt.tm.fr

 

You should be able to find the number of the motor on the side to confirm it is the same - they supplied the motor fitted with worm thread. cost was 300 euros including delivery within France.

 

I am afraid that I had to communicate with them in French, but they are a large company so they may respond to English.

 

I hope this helps

 

Andrew

 

Ronpische

SM472 

Canet-en-Roussillon

 

 

From: Bill & Judy Rouse <svbebe@...> on behalf of Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
Date: Thursday, 29 December 2016 at 14:39
To: "amelyachtowners@..." <amelyachtowners@...>
Cc: Andrew Lamb <Andrew.Lamb@...>
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster LIFTING motor

 

Two things that may help.

First, you may find that the owner manager of lil' Budget Marine, named Guy (pronounced gi), may help you...he orders a lot if things directly from France and is a Dessalator dealer. Bring the motor to him.

Second, Andrew Lamb has bought this part in Europe and will be able to tell you more. I CCd him of this email.

I hope this helps you.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

 

On Dec 29, 2016 9:07 AM, "pjn.mccallin@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

This message from CARAMELLE #385 2003 model. Am presently anchored in the Lagoon st Martin have discovered that my thruster is not working, in that it will not move down.

Took the cover off the electrical connections box to find one of the diodes had blown.

Then , to cut a long story short traced the fault/cause to the small up/down motor. On taking it apart I found it had totally burnt out, it is solid.

 

Have send an urgent message to Amel/Maude but no reply to see if a new motor could be sent by courier to me in St Martin.

 

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get it fixed? Is it made by Amel or is it made for them? any help much appreciated,thanks in anticipation, Patrick.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster LIFTING motor

Danny and Yvonne SIMMS
 

Hi Patrick. I believe Amel France is closed until January 2nd.
Regards
Danny
SM 299
Ocean pearl


On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 2:06, pjn.mccallin@... [amelyachtowners]
wrote:
 

This message from CARAMELLE #385 2003 model. Am presently anchored in the Lagoon st Martin have discovered that my thruster is not working, in that it will not move down.

Took the cover off the electrical connections box to find one of the diodes had blown.

Then , to cut a long story short traced the fault/cause to the small up/down motor. On taking it apart I found it had totally burnt out, it is solid.


Have send an urgent message to Amel/Maude but no reply to see if a new motor could be sent by courier to me in St Martin.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get it fixed? Is it made by Amel or is it made for them? any help much appreciated,thanks in anticipation, Patrick.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster LIFTING motor

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

One more thing. Jean COLLIN, manager at Amel Caribbean in Martinique might have that part. His mobile phone is 596 (0) 696 419 045.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 29, 2016 9:39 AM, "Bill & Judy Rouse" <yahoogroups@...> wrote:

Two things that may help.

First, you may find that the owner manager of lil' Budget Marine, named Guy (pronounced gi), may help you...he orders a lot if things directly from France and is a Dessalator dealer. Bring the motor to him.

Second, Andrew Lamb has bought this part in Europe and will be able to tell you more. I CCd him of this email.

I hope this helps you.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 29, 2016 9:07 AM, "pjn.mccallin@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

This message from CARAMELLE #385 2003 model. Am presently anchored in the Lagoon st Martin have discovered that my thruster is not working, in that it will not move down.

Took the cover off the electrical connections box to find one of the diodes had blown.

Then , to cut a long story short traced the fault/cause to the small up/down motor. On taking it apart I found it had totally burnt out, it is solid.


Have send an urgent message to Amel/Maude but no reply to see if a new motor could be sent by courier to me in St Martin.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get it fixed? Is it made by Amel or is it made for them? any help much appreciated,thanks in anticipation, Patrick.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Bow thruster LIFTING motor

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Two things that may help.

First, you may find that the owner manager of lil' Budget Marine, named Guy (pronounced gi), may help you...he orders a lot if things directly from France and is a Dessalator dealer. Bring the motor to him.

Second, Andrew Lamb has bought this part in Europe and will be able to tell you more. I CCd him of this email.

I hope this helps you.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 29, 2016 9:07 AM, "pjn.mccallin@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

This message from CARAMELLE #385 2003 model. Am presently anchored in the Lagoon st Martin have discovered that my thruster is not working, in that it will not move down.

Took the cover off the electrical connections box to find one of the diodes had blown.

Then , to cut a long story short traced the fault/cause to the small up/down motor. On taking it apart I found it had totally burnt out, it is solid.


Have send an urgent message to Amel/Maude but no reply to see if a new motor could be sent by courier to me in St Martin.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get it fixed? Is it made by Amel or is it made for them? any help much appreciated,thanks in anticipation, Patrick.

Bow thruster LIFTING motor

pjn.mccallin@...
 

This message from CARAMELLE #385 2003 model. Am presently anchored in the Lagoon st Martin have discovered that my thruster is not working, in that it will not move down.

Took the cover off the electrical connections box to find one of the diodes had blown.

Then , to cut a long story short traced the fault/cause to the small up/down motor. On taking it apart I found it had totally burnt out, it is solid.


Have send an urgent message to Amel/Maude but no reply to see if a new motor could be sent by courier to me in St Martin.


Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can get it fixed? Is it made by Amel or is it made for them? any help much appreciated,thanks in anticipation, Patrick.

Re: Main Outhaul Line Material and size

Alan Leslie
 

We had this problem when we bought Elyse. We replaced the line with 12mm Vectran and have had no problems since. The Andersen line tender jaws work much better with 12mm than 10mm
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Owner!

Mark Erdos
 

Hi John,

 

Congratulations on your Amel.

 

You will find this forum a great source for answers to questions you don’t even know you have yet.

 

Hope to see you down the road someday soon.

 

 

 

With best regards,

 

Mark

 

Super Maramu 2000

Hull #275

www.creampuff.us

Currently cruising:  Tampa Bay

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 2:04 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Owner!

 

 

Greetings fellow Amel owners,

  I am today pleased to be able to introduce myself as the new owner of “Vent de Soleil,”  SM 37 and would like to thank all of you for allowing me to troll your forum for the last year or so, especially Bill Rouse, who has given me a lot of Amel advice behind the scenes. 

 

The boat passed her survey and I signed papers a week before Christmas in Martinique .  I wanted to wait until the payment settled with the previous owners before posting any announcement.   

    The boat was in fabulous condition and after a drive around the island with my surveyor, I decided to forgo any further negotiations and purchase at our pre-survey agreed upon price.

    Bill made introductions for several of you in Martinique who I had hoped to meet before Christmas however, I had a short travel window to complete the survey, which took three full days, and then I “unexpectedly” pulled the trigger, so I spent my last night in Martinique signing papers, drinking champagne, and telling sea stories with the previous owners.

 

I plan to return to Martinique in a few weeks on a much more relaxed schedule and look forward to meeting you all.

 

                             Regards, John

 

 

John Clark

Vent de Soleil, SM 037

Le Marin, Martinique

 

[Amel Yacht Owners] Sharing Layout to help with the organization

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good afternoon,

Organization is very important on a boat.
So from the original interior brochure, I made various layouts to help remembering where things are located.
With time I will add more.

The various layouts, have little nuances which might or not be of interest to everyone (such as the floor storages).

http://nikimat.com/layout.html

Please feel free to save and use these.
You can also click on every image and obtain a larger version.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

Re: Leros marina, Greece

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Ian;

 

After doing some research and asking some friends that know the area, we will most likely be leaving Kokomo in Leros on the Hard for the next 4-5 months. We have had good reports so far. We can give you more input of what we experience afterwards.

 

Mohammad and Aty

Amel 54 #099

B&B Kokomo

 

 

Re: Leros marina, Greece

Peter
 

Hello Ian & Judy,

we spent 3 winters in Agios Nikolaos in Crete now. Some friends are in Leros. Leros has two locations. One is the marina near main town which is located a little off the city. So you have a walk of 2 km to downtown. The marina is save but it is too cold in winter to stay on boat (which is why we are in crete).

The northern marina is "hard" only. You can lift your boat out of water and walk away. This is where my friends stay now. Cheap and you can service your boat. Not very much technicians over there. You have to take those who are in the marina.

During winter Leros is very calm (which is why were on crete).

Best,
Peter
SY mausi

Leros marina, Greece

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi All,


We are thinking of leaving Pen Azen ashore in Leros for the winter of 2017-18.  Has anyone experience of that marina?


 Have a great sail in 2017,


Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 302, Hyeres


Re: Main Outhaul Line Material and size

Paul Osterberg
 

After having the same problem with both 10 and 12 m Dynema line of high quality, we bought a 12 m Vectran line from Liros Germany with a cover which is supposed to have high friction, It improved the situation substantially, Vectran has less "creep" than Dynema/Spectra.
Only just recently it sliped, but I think by tigten it a little it will not hapend again.
Paul on S/Y Kerpa SM #259 currently in Tobago cays

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main Outhaul Line Material and size [1 Attachment]

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks bill for the explanation and the photo. Definitely helpful.

It is nice to know how AMEL originally did it. Simple and effective.

Respectfully;

Mohammad and Aty
AMEL 54 #099
B&B Kokomo

On Dec 28, 2016, at 6:04 PM, 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Mohammad,

I rigged the outhaul line just as Amel had done it. I cut it to size with a hot line cutter. I used the outhaul winch to tighten the line.

The stern end is secured first with a single whipped hitch. Then the line tightened using the electric outhaul... note that you need to secure the car to tighten the line with the electric outhaul...you want the line to tighten and it will only tighten if the car doesn't move. Once it is very tight, a single whipped hitch secures this end also, but with added small line to further tighten the outhaul line to the outhaul car shackle. Both outhaul line ends were whipped to the main line. I may be able to send you a photo later, but internet here is terrible.

I had a much harder time with the Kevlar line because Kevlar will not cut with heat.

I am trying to attaché a photo of the Kevlar so that you can see the attachment of the lines. Note, that I should have had more distance between the car and the hitched loop on the fore side of the car. The way I did it in the photo, I did not leave much space to further tighten with the small line.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 28, 2016 10:03 AM, "'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks bill and Kent.

The 10mm dynema that was used by the French rigger stripped its cover the last time it slipped going from Samos to kos a few days ago, downwind force 7. So the current line is no longer viable.

I also thought 12 mm was the solution but did not want to guess a second time. Dynema however seems to need special tools to loop the ends.

Bill how did you make up the ends for the attachment to the outhaul car?

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo

On Dec 28, 2016, at 1:56 PM, mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@ya hoogroups.com> wrote:

 

We have always had a problem with the main outhaul slipping on  the friction clutch in strong winds. I'm pretty sure the line we had on was not original Amel install. We had it changed when we purchased her a couple of years ago as recommended by the sail maker in Turkey. The new line also slipped and we continued to tighten the line with some better results but still would slip under high loads.


We had another french rigger in Turkey who recommended replacement with Spectra, but having the same issue.


I would like to know the correct diameter, length and ,material that Amel installs so we can fix the issue.


Thank you

Mhammad and Aty

Amel 54 #099

B&B Kokomo

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main Outhaul Line Material and size

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mohammad,

I rigged the outhaul line just as Amel had done it. I cut it to size with a hot line cutter. I used the outhaul winch to tighten the line.

The stern end is secured first with a single whipped hitch. Then the line tightened using the electric outhaul... note that you need to secure the car to tighten the line with the electric outhaul...you want the line to tighten and it will only tighten if the car doesn't move. Once it is very tight, a single whipped hitch secures this end also, but with added small line to further tighten the outhaul line to the outhaul car shackle. Both outhaul line ends were whipped to the main line. I may be able to send you a photo later, but internet here is terrible.

I had a much harder time with the Kevlar line because Kevlar will not cut with heat.

I am trying to attaché a photo of the Kevlar so that you can see the attachment of the lines. Note, that I should have had more distance between the car and the hitched loop on the fore side of the car. The way I did it in the photo, I did not leave much space to further tighten with the small line.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 28, 2016 10:03 AM, "'Mohammad Shirloo' mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Thanks bill and Kent.

The 10mm dynema that was used by the French rigger stripped its cover the last time it slipped going from Samos to kos a few days ago, downwind force 7. So the current line is no longer viable.

I also thought 12 mm was the solution but did not want to guess a second time. Dynema however seems to need special tools to loop the ends.

Bill how did you make up the ends for the attachment to the outhaul car?

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo

On Dec 28, 2016, at 1:56 PM, mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@ya hoogroups.com> wrote:

 

We have always had a problem with the main outhaul slipping on  the friction clutch in strong winds. I'm pretty sure the line we had on was not original Amel install. We had it changed when we purchased her a couple of years ago as recommended by the sail maker in Turkey. The new line also slipped and we continued to tighten the line with some better results but still would slip under high loads.


We had another french rigger in Turkey who recommended replacement with Spectra, but having the same issue.


I would like to know the correct diameter, length and ,material that Amel installs so we can fix the issue.


Thank you

Mhammad and Aty

Amel 54 #099

B&B Kokomo

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main Outhaul Line Material and size

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks bill and Kent.

The 10mm dynema that was used by the French rigger stripped its cover the last time it slipped going from Samos to kos a few days ago, downwind force 7. So the current line is no longer viable.

I also thought 12 mm was the solution but did not want to guess a second time. Dynema however seems to need special tools to loop the ends.

Bill how did you make up the ends for the attachment to the outhaul car?

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo
323-633-2222 Cell
310-454-3148 Fax

On Dec 28, 2016, at 1:56 PM, mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

We have always had a problem with the main outhaul slipping on  the friction clutch in strong winds. I'm pretty sure the line we had on was not original Amel install. We had it changed when we purchased her a couple of years ago as recommended by the sail maker in Turkey. The new line also slipped and we continued to tighten the line with some better results but still would slip under high loads.


We had another french rigger in Turkey who recommended replacement with Spectra, but having the same issue.


I would like to know the correct diameter, length and ,material that Amel installs so we can fix the issue.


Thank you

Mhammad and Aty

Amel 54 #099

B&B Kokomo