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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main Outhaul Line Material and size

karkauai
 

Hi Mohammed.
I had the same problem several years ago.  On advice from someone on this forum I sprayed the line with a contact cement.  It worked great, and by the time the cement was gone, the line had weathered enough that it wasn't a problem.  I've tightened the line one time since then.
Cheap, easy, effective fix!
Kent
SM 243
Kristy

.

Re: DESSALATOR DUO 60 ORIGINAL, REPAIR OR REPLACE

jgermain@...
 

Hi Vlad,

I replaced the old 25 l/hr unit with a Duo 100;  makes more sense than a 60 l/hr in my opinion.  Both work very well and provide fabulous quality water.

Jean-Pierre Germain
Eleuthera, SM007
Guadeloupe

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Owner!

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

John,

Congratulations!

It is too bad that your search in the US did not turn up what you wanted in the US. On the other hand, finding such a deal in Le Marin is a blessing. I heard her previous French owners were selling because they were nearing 80.

You will find some great repair and refit assets at Le Marin. Not only Amel's Caribbean facility, but a great rigger (preferred contractor of Amel), and all of the parts used by Amel are readily available from shops that buy from French manufacturers. You may have already met Franc who is a preferred contractor of Amel. He knows Amel electrical systems better than anyone I have met. If you have not met him, ask Jean at Amel. It might be a great idea to hire Franc to do a complete electrical inspection.

BTW, Amel ships a box to Le Marin once a week. This makes anything Amel France has readily available in Le Marin. Parts are priced 30% more than La Rochelle to cover the freight from La Rochelle. It is a good place to stock up on spares.

Best,

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 28, 2016 3:04 AM, "biohead@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Greetings fellow Amel owners,

  I am today pleased to be able to introduce myself as the new owner of “Vent de Soleil,”  SM 37 and would like to thank all of you for allowing me to troll your forum for the last year or so, especially Bill Rouse, who has given me a lot of Amel advice behind the scenes. 

 

The boat passed her survey and I signed papers a week before Christmas in Martinique .  I wanted to wait until the payment settled with the previous owners before posting any announcement.   

    The boat was in fabulous condition and after a drive around the island with my surveyor, I decided to forgo any further negotiations and purchase at our pre-survey agreed upon price.

    Bill made introductions for several of you in Martinique who I had hoped to meet before Christmas however, I had a short travel window to complete the survey, which took three full days, and then I “unexpectedly” pulled the trigger, so I spent my last night in Martinique signing papers, drinking champagne, and telling sea stories with the previous owners.

 

I plan to return to Martinique in a few weeks on a much more relaxed schedule and look forward to meeting you all.

 

                             Regards, John



John Clark

Vent de Soleil, SM 037

Le Marin, Martinique


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Main Outhaul Line Material and size

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mohammad,

It is a slightly confusing story. Amel originally used 10mm Kevlar line. It is impossible to find today.

If you ask SAV in La Rochelle, they will tell you to use 12mm Dynema line.

A French friend that knows the Amel people at Hyeres found some of the original Kevlar 10mm which we obtained from him in January this year.

I believe that, in general, the issue is that all of the line producers are putting less fiber in the line. When I looked at all high quality 10mm line I found that I could pinch it with my fingers down to 7-8mm. The Anderson line tender on the outhaul uses teeth to grip the line. If the line pinches in the teeth to 7-8mm, it will slip. AND, the 12mm will pinch to 9-10mm, which works well in the Anderson line tender.

So, bottom line, use a high quality 12mm Spectra or Dynema line and you will be fine...Oh yes, you still have to get it tight!

I hope this helps you and others.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 28, 2016 7:25 AM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

We have always had a problem with the main outhaul slipping on  the friction clutch in strong winds. I'm pretty sure the line we had on was not original Amel install. We had it changed when we purchased her a couple of years ago as recommended by the sail maker in Turkey. The new line also slipped and we continued to tighten the line with some better results but still would slip under high loads.


We had another french rigger in Turkey who recommended replacement with Spectra, but having the same issue.


I would like to know the correct diameter, length and ,material that Amel installs so we can fix the issue.


Thank you

Mhammad and Aty

Amel 54 #099

B&B Kokomo

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Owner!

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Good morning John,

Congratulations and welcome to the family!

Looking forward to meet you and visit Vent de Soleil!

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI




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On Wed, 12/28/16, biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Owner!
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Wednesday, December 28, 2016, 1:04 AM


 









Greetings
fellow
Amel owners,  I am
today pleased
to be able to introduce myself as the new owner of “Vent
de Soleil,”  SM 37 and would like to thank all of you for
allowing me to troll your forum for the last year or so,
especially Bill Rouse,
who has given me a lot of Amel advice behind the scenes. 
 The boat passed her survey
and I signed papers a week before
Christmas in Martinique . 
I wanted to wait until the payment settled with the previous
owners
before posting any announcement.        The boat was in
fabulous condition and after a drive around the island with
my surveyor, I
decided to forgo any further negotiations and purchase at
our pre-survey agreed
upon price.    Bill
made introductions for several of you in Martinique who I
had hoped to meet
before Christmas however, I had a short travel window to
complete the survey,
which took three full days, and then I “unexpectedly”
pulled the trigger, so I
spent my last night in Martinique signing papers, drinking
champagne, and
telling sea stories with the previous owners.  I plan to return to
Martinique in a
few weeks on a much more relaxed schedule and look forward
to meeting you all.
 

















               
             Regards, John

John ClarkVent de Soleil, SM 037Le Marin,
Martinique

Main Outhaul Line Material and size

Mohammad Shirloo
 

We have always had a problem with the main outhaul slipping on  the friction clutch in strong winds. I'm pretty sure the line we had on was not original Amel install. We had it changed when we purchased her a couple of years ago as recommended by the sail maker in Turkey. The new line also slipped and we continued to tighten the line with some better results but still would slip under high loads.


We had another french rigger in Turkey who recommended replacement with Spectra, but having the same issue.


I would like to know the correct diameter, length and ,material that Amel installs so we can fix the issue.


Thank you

Mhammad and Aty

Amel 54 #099

B&B Kokomo

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Sharing Trojan’s reply on battery charger set up.

islandpearl2_sm2k332
 

Interesting reply. We have the same batteries. Thanks for sharing Alexandre

Colin & Lauren Streeter
Island Pearl II, Amel 53 #332
Brisbane

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:33 AM, Alexandre Uster von Baar uster@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Dear Amel Owners,

Just sharing the reply I received from Trojan regarding the charging of my new batteries.

I received 8 (+ 1) Deep cycle, flooded, Trojan 27 TMH batteries 115 Ah

The Data Sheet calls for 29.64 Bulk Charge and 27.00 Volt Float.

On my MDP batteries charger (who purchased Dolphin), I have the following setting:
0: Open Lead: Boost: 28.8 volt - Float: 26.4 Volt
1: Airtight Lean: Boost: 28.4 Volt - Float: 26.4 Volt
2: Lead Calcium: Boost: 29.6 Volt - Float: 27.6 Volt
3: Delphi: Boost 30.8 Volt - Float: 27.6 Volt
then other setting not relevant like Optima, wintering, GEL, AGM and LifeSo4.

Being cautious I contacted Trojan for the best setting and here is the answer I received from Stacey:

“In this case, it looks like the Lead Calcium setting are the closest to ours.  In general it is better to overcharge a  battery bank than undercharge it.”

So to conclude, even thought I might have open lead batteries, it is better to use the Lead Calcium setting and bringing higher voltage is better than lower.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI




--
Colin Streeter
0411 016 445

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Owner!

Stephen Davis
 

Congratulations John. Sorry we did not meet up while you were here, but I was still in the USA for your short trip to Martinique. Currently, your new pride and joy is berthed across the dock from us, and if you need me to do anything, please let me know. We will be leaving Le Marin on 3 January, but may be back for a few days a bit later in the month.

Looking forward to meeting you sometime in the near future.

Steve and Liz Davis
Aloha SM 72
Martinique

On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 3:04 AM, biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Greetings fellow Amel owners,

  I am today pleased to be able to introduce myself as the new owner of “Vent de Soleil,”  SM 37 and would like to thank all of you for allowing me to troll your forum for the last year or so, especially Bill Rouse, who has given me a lot of Amel advice behind the scenes. 

 

The boat passed her survey and I signed papers a week before Christmas in Martinique .  I wanted to wait until the payment settled with the previous owners before posting any announcement.   

    The boat was in fabulous condition and after a drive around the island with my surveyor, I decided to forgo any further negotiations and purchase at our pre-survey agreed upon price.

    Bill made introductions for several of you in Martinique who I had hoped to meet before Christmas however, I had a short travel window to complete the survey, which took three full days, and then I “unexpectedly” pulled the trigger, so I spent my last night in Martinique signing papers, drinking champagne, and telling sea stories with the previous owners.

 

I plan to return to Martinique in a few weeks on a much more relaxed schedule and look forward to meeting you all.

 

                             Regards, John



John Clark

Vent de Soleil, SM 037

Le Marin, Martinique



Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Owner!

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Welcome John;

 

It took us 4 years to select the “right boat” for us. You will find over time that there are design considerations in Amels that you will only come to know and appreciate after years of use. We have been sailing our 54 for the past 2 years and are thoroughly enjoying her comfort and sea worthiness.

 

One word of advice from every one to us that we have taken to heart and has served us well, is do not change anything on the boat before spending at least a year or two sailing her. You will find over time that most design considerations have solid reasoning behind them and have been proven over 50 years and over 1000 yachts that have travelled all over the globe.

 

Congratulations on your purchase and wishing you and your crew many years of happy and safe sailing adventures.

 

Respectfully;

 

 

Mohammad and Aty

Amel 54 #099

B&B Kokomo

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] New Owner!

luvkante
 

Welcome, John. Congratulations! You for sure will have lot of fun.

Will arrive in St Lucia beginning of February.

Martin
AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA

Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 28.12.2016 um 08:04 schrieb biohead@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

Greetings fellow Amel owners,

  I am today pleased to be able to introduce myself as the new owner of “Vent de Soleil,”  SM 37 and would like to thank all of you for allowing me to troll your forum for the last year or so, especially Bill Rouse, who has given me a lot of Amel advice behind the scenes. 

 

The boat passed her survey and I signed papers a week before Christmas in Martinique .  I wanted to wait until the payment settled with the previous owners before posting any announcement.   

    The boat was in fabulous condition and after a drive around the island with my surveyor, I decided to forgo any further negotiations and purchase at our pre-survey agreed upon price.

    Bill made introductions for several of you in Martinique who I had hoped to meet before Christmas however, I had a short travel window to complete the survey, which took three full days, and then I “unexpectedly” pulled the trigger, so I spent my last night in Martinique signing papers, drinking champagne, and telling sea stories with the previous owners.

 

I plan to return to Martinique in a few weeks on a much more relaxed schedule and look forward to meeting you all.

 

                             Regards, John



John Clark

Vent de Soleil, SM 037

Le Marin, Martinique


New Owner!

John Clark
 

Greetings fellow Amel owners,

  I am today pleased to be able to introduce myself as the new owner of “Vent de Soleil,”  SM 37 and would like to thank all of you for allowing me to troll your forum for the last year or so, especially Bill Rouse, who has given me a lot of Amel advice behind the scenes. 

 

The boat passed her survey and I signed papers a week before Christmas in Martinique .  I wanted to wait until the payment settled with the previous owners before posting any announcement.   

    The boat was in fabulous condition and after a drive around the island with my surveyor, I decided to forgo any further negotiations and purchase at our pre-survey agreed upon price.

    Bill made introductions for several of you in Martinique who I had hoped to meet before Christmas however, I had a short travel window to complete the survey, which took three full days, and then I “unexpectedly” pulled the trigger, so I spent my last night in Martinique signing papers, drinking champagne, and telling sea stories with the previous owners.

 

I plan to return to Martinique in a few weeks on a much more relaxed schedule and look forward to meeting you all.

 

                             Regards, John



John Clark

Vent de Soleil, SM 037

Le Marin, Martinique


[Amel Yacht Owners] Sharing Trojan’s reply on battery charger set up.

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Dear Amel Owners,

Just sharing the reply I received from Trojan regarding the charging of my new batteries.

I received 8 (+ 1) Deep cycle, flooded, Trojan 27 TMH batteries 115 Ah

The Data Sheet calls for 29.64 Bulk Charge and 27.00 Volt Float.

On my MDP batteries charger (who purchased Dolphin), I have the following setting:
0: Open Lead: Boost: 28.8 volt - Float: 26.4 Volt
1: Airtight Lean: Boost: 28.4 Volt - Float: 26.4 Volt
2: Lead Calcium: Boost: 29.6 Volt - Float: 27.6 Volt
3: Delphi: Boost 30.8 Volt - Float: 27.6 Volt
then other setting not relevant like Optima, wintering, GEL, AGM and LifeSo4.

Being cautious I contacted Trojan for the best setting and here is the answer I received from Stacey:

“In this case, it looks like the Lead Calcium setting are the closest to ours.  In general it is better to overcharge a  battery bank than undercharge it.”

So to conclude, even thought I might have open lead batteries, it is better to use the Lead Calcium setting and bringing higher voltage is better than lower.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan - normal oil pressure

Alexandre Uster von Baar
 

Merry Christmas Jean-Pierre,

I don’t have an oil pressure gage on mine, but thinking on adding one since I have a tendency to micro-control…

1500 RPM is normal for 50 Herzt (would be 1600 rpm for the 60 herz).

Merry Christmas and sending my best wishes of good health, happiness, success and love for 2017.

Sincerely, Alexandre
SM2K #289 NIKIMAT
Harbor View Marina, Tortola, BVI



--------------------------------------------

On Sun, 12/25/16, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Onan - normal oil pressure
To: amelyachtowners@...
Date: Sunday, December 25, 2016, 12:33 PM


 









Merry Xmas to
all,
Quick question: MDKAL (695
hours) operates at 1500 rpm for 50 HZ.  My oil pressure
reads 25-30 psi at this rpm.
What is the rpm of your
units and what oil Pressure do you
get?
Jean-Pierre
GermainEleuthera,
SM007Guadeloupe

Onan - normal oil pressure

jgermain@...
 

Merry Xmas to all,


Quick question: MDKAL (695 hours) operates at 1500 rpm for 50 HZ.  My oil pressure reads 25-30 psi at this rpm.


What is the rpm of your units and what oil Pressure do you get?


Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera, SM007

Guadeloupe

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

Jean-Pierre Germain <jgermain@...>
 

Thanks for the comments

JP


On 25 Dec 2016, at 02:42, divanz620@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

In 2014 on the way to Tahiti we developed a leak that filled the compartment outside the aft head.

At the time we couldn't work out where the water was coming from for a while, tightening the nylon nut slowed it down, By the time we got to Fiji, it was leaking badly again and we employed the local guys to replace the packing ..BIG MISTAKE. They cross-threaded the nut and it wouldn't drive down on the 3 layers of packing...and it leaked.
In the Yasawa Is I took the nut off and removed the top layer of packing put in some fine polyester string to add a little thickness and managed to get the nut to thread properly and seal...dry boat !!
Got to New Zealand and I ordered a new nut from Maud...put in 3 layers of packing and tightened it just enough when in the water and it hasn't leaked since....but I check it every few days just in case !!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

Alan Leslie
 

In 2014 on the way to Tahiti we developed a leak that filled the compartment outside the aft head.
At the time we couldn't work out where the water was coming from for a while, tightening the nylon nut slowed it down, By the time we got to Fiji, it was leaking badly again and we employed the local guys to replace the packing ..BIG MISTAKE. They cross-threaded the nut and it wouldn't drive down on the 3 layers of packing...and it leaked.
In the Yasawa Is I took the nut off and removed the top layer of packing put in some fine polyester string to add a little thickness and managed to get the nut to thread properly and seal...dry boat !!
Got to New Zealand and I ordered a new nut from Maud...put in 3 layers of packing and tightened it just enough when in the water and it hasn't leaked since....but I check it every few days just in case !!
Cheers
Alan
Elyse SM437

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

karkauai
 

I don't think so Eric.  There's a step-down in the shaft that isn't accessible if I remember correctly.
I'm not on the boat, so I don't have that part number either.
Kent

On Dec 24, 2016, at 7:23 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Kent,

That’s great.

However do get the packing. We once got laid down by a huge wave from the stern. When we got the boat dried out. I went back to my cabin and found the carpet wet. The wave had blown apart part of the packing—so always have a spare nut and packing.

 

I am trying to figure out what size coupling I need to buy from Vetus for the engine. Can the shaft be measured while the engine is assembled? I will use the new coupling to fabricate an aluminum disk as you did to align the engine. I forgot to check it when I was on Kimberlite and I will not be on her for a few weeks.

Fair Winds

 Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 6:13 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

 

 

Thanks Eric.  I took your advice a few years ago and had an aluminum wrench made.

So you'd leave it alone until the nut is nearly bottomed out?  At this rate it'll outlive me.  The boat is 17 years old now...but thinks she's still 8.

Feliz Navidad, my amigo!

Kent


On Dec 24, 2016, at 6:07 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

As long as the nylon nut is not bottomed out you can just tighten  the nut  an 1/8th of a turn and all is well with the world.

If the nut is almost bottomed out I would replace the packing.

I would get the packing from Amel as it is cut perfectly.

 

I have a spare nut and a set of packing duct taped near the rudder post.

Worst case scenario you can change the packing while under way. You can definitely change the top 2 pieces and depending how low the stern is sitting possibly change all 3.

It is a pill to remove the packing. I use a narrow screwdriver to chisel the packing out.

 

Plan on having it leaking for a while until the packing becomes seated and absorbs a little water. I use molycote grease on the packing. I also had a wrench made that I use to tighten the nut while under way.

It was cut out of a piece of aluminum as thick as the flange of the nut and is short enough to turn without hitting any stringers.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 5:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

 

 

Hi JP, and Merry Christmas one and all.

 

I've had Kristy 8 + years and only developed a small leak last year.  I tightened the nut a bit and have had no further leaks in the last year.  I have never tightened that nut except the one time it was leaking.  Same packing as when I bought her.  I've put nearly 20,000 nm under the keel in all kinds of seas.

Am I just lucky?

 

Before I do an ocean crossing I guess I'll replace the packing, or should I wait til it leaks and won't stop with a tweak of the nut?

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

Panama cell: +507-61171896

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Dec 24, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Steve,

 

Thanks for the info.  We did quite a few miles from Majorca to 4 days out of Lanzarote…  about 2000 + I reckon…

 

I will include the big Nut in my 6 month maintenance.

 

Merry Xmas too.  Just off to celebrate with a dozen other friends … too much wine on hand; this will be painful :-)

 

Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera, SM 007

In Marina du Fort, Guadeloupe.

 

 

 

On 24 Dec 2016, at 17:09, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

Hi JP,

 

Congratulations on a successful passage, and Merry Christmas. 

 

Our rudder post tends to develop a small leak about once a year, and about an eighth of a turn on the nut will stop it. We have new packing, but have not changed it since we bought the boat in 2014. 

 

Steve Davis

Aloha SM72

Martinique


On Dec 24, 2016, at 16:59, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Merry Christmas Gang,

 

We arrived in Guadeloupe from Lanzarote. 7 days of slow slogging then 11 days of good progress.  Total 18 days 20 hours.  

 

Our beauty held up fine and we only have a rail cleat to repair and a rudder post leak to stop... the latter is done already but the question is this: we changed the rudder packing in July and twice tightened the big nylon nut.  Worked sans leak from Majorca to Gib, Madeira and Lanzarote.  4 days out of Lanzarote, a small leak began... then got worse as we sailed west.  Nothing alarming but needing a drying up session every 2 hours at the end.  Do you do preventive "tightening" ... if so at how many miles?  

 

Sea states were 5-6 and occasionally 7.  The hydraulic AP worked flawlessly throughout.

 

 


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Rudder shaft leak.

eric freedman
 

Kent,

That’s great.

However do get the packing. We once got laid down by a huge wave from the stern. When we got the boat dried out. I went back to my cabin and found the carpet wet. The wave had blown apart part of the packing—so always have a spare nut and packing.

 

I am trying to figure out what size coupling I need to buy from Vetus for the engine. Can the shaft be measured while the engine is assembled? I will use the new coupling to fabricate an aluminum disk as you did to align the engine. I forgot to check it when I was on Kimberlite and I will not be on her for a few weeks.

Fair Winds

 Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

 

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 6:13 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

 

 

Thanks Eric.  I took your advice a few years ago and had an aluminum wrench made.

So you'd leave it alone until the nut is nearly bottomed out?  At this rate it'll outlive me.  The boat is 17 years old now...but thinks she's still 8.

Feliz Navidad, my amigo!

Kent


On Dec 24, 2016, at 6:07 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

As long as the nylon nut is not bottomed out you can just tighten  the nut  an 1/8th of a turn and all is well with the world.

If the nut is almost bottomed out I would replace the packing.

I would get the packing from Amel as it is cut perfectly.

 

I have a spare nut and a set of packing duct taped near the rudder post.

Worst case scenario you can change the packing while under way. You can definitely change the top 2 pieces and depending how low the stern is sitting possibly change all 3.

It is a pill to remove the packing. I use a narrow screwdriver to chisel the packing out.

 

Plan on having it leaking for a while until the packing becomes seated and absorbs a little water. I use molycote grease on the packing. I also had a wrench made that I use to tighten the nut while under way.

It was cut out of a piece of aluminum as thick as the flange of the nut and is short enough to turn without hitting any stringers.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 5:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

 

 

Hi JP, and Merry Christmas one and all.

 

I've had Kristy 8 + years and only developed a small leak last year.  I tightened the nut a bit and have had no further leaks in the last year.  I have never tightened that nut except the one time it was leaking.  Same packing as when I bought her.  I've put nearly 20,000 nm under the keel in all kinds of seas.

Am I just lucky?

 

Before I do an ocean crossing I guess I'll replace the packing, or should I wait til it leaks and won't stop with a tweak of the nut?

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

Panama cell: +507-61171896

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Dec 24, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Steve,

 

Thanks for the info.  We did quite a few miles from Majorca to 4 days out of Lanzarote…  about 2000 + I reckon…

 

I will include the big Nut in my 6 month maintenance.

 

Merry Xmas too.  Just off to celebrate with a dozen other friends … too much wine on hand; this will be painful :-)

 

Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera, SM 007

In Marina du Fort, Guadeloupe.

 

 

 

On 24 Dec 2016, at 17:09, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

Hi JP,

 

Congratulations on a successful passage, and Merry Christmas. 

 

Our rudder post tends to develop a small leak about once a year, and about an eighth of a turn on the nut will stop it. We have new packing, but have not changed it since we bought the boat in 2014. 

 

Steve Davis

Aloha SM72

Martinique


On Dec 24, 2016, at 16:59, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Merry Christmas Gang,

 

We arrived in Guadeloupe from Lanzarote. 7 days of slow slogging then 11 days of good progress.  Total 18 days 20 hours.  

 

Our beauty held up fine and we only have a rail cleat to repair and a rudder post leak to stop... the latter is done already but the question is this: we changed the rudder packing in July and twice tightened the big nylon nut.  Worked sans leak from Majorca to Gib, Madeira and Lanzarote.  4 days out of Lanzarote, a small leak began... then got worse as we sailed west.  Nothing alarming but needing a drying up session every 2 hours at the end.  Do you do preventive "tightening" ... if so at how many miles?  

 

Sea states were 5-6 and occasionally 7.  The hydraulic AP worked flawlessly throughout.

 

 


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

Jean-Pierre Germain <jgermain@...>
 

Hi Kent and Eric,

We changed the packing in July. Been dry almost always. 

One difficulty I have is the modified rudder bellcrank needed to accommodate the hyd AP DRIVE. Means I must place the boat in irons to dismantle the array. I outwaited the leak and fixed the issue in 30 mins once at the dock. 

Comment on the hyd AP: works very well and is far more supple than the elec unit. If you ever consider such a mod, I am very pleased. 

Cheers,

JPG ON ELEUTHERA 
Guadeloupe


On 24 Dec 2016, at 19:07, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

As long as the nylon nut is not bottomed out you can just tighten  the nut  an 1/8th of a turn and all is well with the world.

If the nut is almost bottomed out I would replace the packing.

I would get the packing from Amel as it is cut perfectly.

 

I have a spare nut and a set of packing duct taped near the rudder post.

Worst case scenario you can change the packing while under way. You can definitely change the top 2 pieces and depending how low the stern is sitting possibly change all 3.

It is a pill to remove the packing. I use a narrow screwdriver to chisel the packing out.

 

Plan on having it leaking for a while until the packing becomes seated and absorbs a little water. I use molycote grease on the packing. I also had a wrench made that I use to tighten the nut while under way.

It was cut out of a piece of aluminum as thick as the flange of the nut and is short enough to turn without hitting any stringers.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 5:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

 

 

Hi JP, and Merry Christmas one and all.

 

I've had Kristy 8 + years and only developed a small leak last year.  I tightened the nut a bit and have had no further leaks in the last year.  I have never tightened that nut except the one time it was leaking.  Same packing as when I bought her.  I've put nearly 20,000 nm under the keel in all kinds of seas.

Am I just lucky?

 

Before I do an ocean crossing I guess I'll replace the packing, or should I wait til it leaks and won't stop with a tweak of the nut?

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

Panama cell: +507-61171896

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Dec 24, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Steve,

 

Thanks for the info.  We did quite a few miles from Majorca to 4 days out of Lanzarote…  about 2000 + I reckon…

 

I will include the big Nut in my 6 month maintenance.

 

Merry Xmas too.  Just off to celebrate with a dozen other friends … too much wine on hand; this will be painful :-)

 

Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera, SM 007

In Marina du Fort, Guadeloupe.

 

 

 

On 24 Dec 2016, at 17:09, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

Hi JP,

 

Congratulations on a successful passage, and Merry Christmas. 

 

Our rudder post tends to develop a small leak about once a year, and about an eighth of a turn on the nut will stop it. We have new packing, but have not changed it since we bought the boat in 2014. 

 

Steve Davis

Aloha SM72

Martinique


On Dec 24, 2016, at 16:59, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Merry Christmas Gang,

 

We arrived in Guadeloupe from Lanzarote. 7 days of slow slogging then 11 days of good progress.  Total 18 days 20 hours.  

 

Our beauty held up fine and we only have a rail cleat to repair and a rudder post leak to stop... the latter is done already but the question is this: we changed the rudder packing in July and twice tightened the big nylon nut.  Worked sans leak from Majorca to Gib, Madeira and Lanzarote.  4 days out of Lanzarote, a small leak began... then got worse as we sailed west.  Nothing alarming but needing a drying up session every 2 hours at the end.  Do you do preventive "tightening" ... if so at how many miles?  

 

Sea states were 5-6 and occasionally 7.  The hydraulic AP worked flawlessly throughout.

 

 


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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

karkauai
 

Thanks Eric.  I took your advice a few years ago and had an aluminum wrench made.
So you'd leave it alone until the nut is nearly bottomed out?  At this rate it'll outlive me.  The boat is 17 years old now...but thinks she's still 8.
Feliz Navidad, my amigo!
Kent

On Dec 24, 2016, at 6:07 PM, 'sailormon' kimberlite@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hi Kent,

As long as the nylon nut is not bottomed out you can just tighten  the nut  an 1/8th of a turn and all is well with the world.

If the nut is almost bottomed out I would replace the packing.

I would get the packing from Amel as it is cut perfectly.

 

I have a spare nut and a set of packing duct taped near the rudder post.

Worst case scenario you can change the packing while under way. You can definitely change the top 2 pieces and depending how low the stern is sitting possibly change all 3.

It is a pill to remove the packing. I use a narrow screwdriver to chisel the packing out.

 

Plan on having it leaking for a while until the packing becomes seated and absorbs a little water. I use molycote grease on the packing. I also had a wrench made that I use to tighten the nut while under way.

It was cut out of a piece of aluminum as thick as the flange of the nut and is short enough to turn without hitting any stringers.

Fair Winds

Eric

Kimberlite Amel Super Maramu #376

 

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2016 5:41 PM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Rudder shaft leak.

 

 

Hi JP, and Merry Christmas one and all.

 

I've had Kristy 8 + years and only developed a small leak last year.  I tightened the nut a bit and have had no further leaks in the last year.  I have never tightened that nut except the one time it was leaking.  Same packing as when I bought her.  I've put nearly 20,000 nm under the keel in all kinds of seas.

Am I just lucky?

 

Before I do an ocean crossing I guess I'll replace the packing, or should I wait til it leaks and won't stop with a tweak of the nut?

Kent

SM243

Kristy

Kent Robertson

S/V Kristy

Panama cell: +507-61171896

USA cell: 828-234-6819


On Dec 24, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Germain Jean-Pierre jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Hello Steve,

 

Thanks for the info.  We did quite a few miles from Majorca to 4 days out of Lanzarote…  about 2000 + I reckon…

 

I will include the big Nut in my 6 month maintenance.

 

Merry Xmas too.  Just off to celebrate with a dozen other friends … too much wine on hand; this will be painful :-)

 

Jean-Pierre Germain

Eleuthera, SM 007

In Marina du Fort, Guadeloupe.

 

 

 

On 24 Dec 2016, at 17:09, Stephen Davis flyboyscd@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

 

Hi JP,

 

Congratulations on a successful passage, and Merry Christmas. 

 

Our rudder post tends to develop a small leak about once a year, and about an eighth of a turn on the nut will stop it. We have new packing, but have not changed it since we bought the boat in 2014. 

 

Steve Davis

Aloha SM72

Martinique


On Dec 24, 2016, at 16:59, jgermain@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

 

Merry Christmas Gang,

 

We arrived in Guadeloupe from Lanzarote. 7 days of slow slogging then 11 days of good progress.  Total 18 days 20 hours.  

 

Our beauty held up fine and we only have a rail cleat to repair and a rudder post leak to stop... the latter is done already but the question is this: we changed the rudder packing in July and twice tightened the big nylon nut.  Worked sans leak from Majorca to Gib, Madeira and Lanzarote.  4 days out of Lanzarote, a small leak began... then got worse as we sailed west.  Nothing alarming but needing a drying up session every 2 hours at the end.  Do you do preventive "tightening" ... if so at how many miles?  

 

Sea states were 5-6 and occasionally 7.  The hydraulic AP worked flawlessly throughout.

 

 


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