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Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] DESSALATOR DUO 60 ORIGINAL, REPAIR OR REPLACE

Stephen Davis
 

Hi Vladimir,

When I purchased my 1992 SM, it had the original watermaker in non working condition. It was going to be very expensive to repair, and I wanted higher capacity, so I decided to replace it with a different model. My criteria in selection were at least 30gph, built with mostly off the shelf and readily available components, and a reasonable purchase price. After considerable research, I purchased a watermaker from Electromax in Canada. I purchased it at the 2014 Annapolis boat show for $4600 delivered to my door in Florida. It is rated at 30gph, and built with non proprietary parts. Unlike the DESSALATOR, most functions are manual, and there is very little to go wrong. I do have the optional automatic solenoid valve installed which allows me to flush the membrane when we are not on the boat The kit arrived with plumbing fittings, hoses, filters, control panel, high pressure pump, low pressure pump, and the membrane. The process of ripping out the old system, and installing the new took me about a day and half. I was able to put the new control panel in the same place as the old with some simple modifications. Also, I've had great technical support from Electromax on the phone when needed.

We started using the watermaker last season when we reached the Caribbean, and have made about 1500 gallons to date with no issues. With the salinity and water temperature in this area, we seem to output between 32 to 34 gph, even though it's rated at 30gph. To each his own, but I greatly prefer a simple manual design with very little to go wrong, and components which are easy to find in most parts of the world.

Let me know if you need more info or pictures, and I'd be happy to help. Good luck on getting it figured out.

Steve Davis
Aloha SM72
Martinique

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:49 AM, sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

I have bought my 2002 Amel SM one year ago. Previous owner told me that the watermaker does not work. He told me that watermaker turns off in less than a minute after it turned on. Previous owner left on the boat a spare set of filters and membranes for DESSALATOR.
Watermaker repairman it Trinidad told me that I have to rebuild high pressure pump, check motors and probubly replace electronic control board.
I removed the pump with two motors. Both motors run fine without load. I have no reason to suspect a motor problem. I disassembled pump. As I expected all seals must be replaced. In addition I discovered that all 4 valves have to be replased because valve seats are deeply pitted. The plunger did not look good. DESSALATOR contact person recommended to replace pump head for € 875.00.
She also told me that watermaker control board and panel are outdated and replacement cost €1,812.00. She told me that probubly membrane housing end plates must be replaced because my watermaker was not running for long time. She recommended me to buy new DUO 60 watermaker for € 9,184.00.
I wonder what is good replacement for original watermaker? Should I stay with DESSALATOR brand or there are better and less expensive replacements? Please give me advise.
If someone have replaced original DESSALATOR watermaker and saved DESSALATOR parts, I probubly buy old control board, controlle panel ,pump and other parts.

Vladimir
SM #345 "LIFE IS GOOD"


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Dessalator pump not working

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

Just in case you didn't see my response under Dessalator 60, here it is again :

When my dessalotor 100 failed I called Dessalator in France. They put me in touch with their technician, a South African who lives in Spain. He was a real expert and instantly diagnosed the problem. In fact  the "clutched" wheel on the 24V motor had failed - that's why the system still worked on the 230V motor. The wheel spun both ways - it should only turn one way.

Anyway the technician's phone number is +34 637 89 03 33.

It's well worth giving him a call.....

Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54 #102



From: "sharongbrown@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:56 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Dessalator pump not working

 
Hi again,

It seems that the problem is that for the 24v motor the solenoid has failed, and for the 220v motor the capacitor has failed. Its seems quite coincidental, andI can only speculate that the problem for both was caused by a blocked pre-filter. I wonder if anyone could confirm?

Thanks and Merry Christmas!
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] DESSALATOR DUO 60 ORIGINAL, REPAIR OR REPLACE

Tony Robinson <tonywrobinson51@...>
 

When my dessalotor 100 failed I called Dessalator in France. They put me in touch with their technician, a South African who lives in Spain. He was a real expert and instantly diagnosed the problem. In fact  the "clutched" wheel on the 24V motor had failed - that's why the system still worked on the 230V motor. The wheel spun both ways - it should only turn one way.

Anyway the technician's phone number is +34 637 89 03 33.

It's well worth giving him a call.....

Tony Robinson - Catriona R Amel 54 #102



From: "sonsev52@... [amelyachtowners]"
To: amelyachtowners@...
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 4:49 PM
Subject: [Amel Yacht Owners] DESSALATOR DUO 60 ORIGINAL, REPAIR OR REPLACE

 
I have bought my 2002 Amel SM one year ago. Previous owner told me that the watermaker does not work. He told me that watermaker turns off in less than a minute after it turned on. Previous owner left on the boat a spare set of filters and membranes for DESSALATOR.
Watermaker repairman it Trinidad told me that I have to rebuild high pressure pump, check motors and probubly replace electronic control board.
I removed the pump with two motors. Both motors run fine without load. I have no reason to suspect a motor problem. I disassembled pump. As I expected all seals must be replaced. In addition I discovered that all 4 valves have to be replased because valve seats are deeply pitted. The plunger did not look good. DESSALATOR contact person recommended to replace pump head for € 875.00.
She also told me that watermaker control board and panel are outdated and replacement cost €1,812.00. She told me that probubly membrane housing end plates must be replaced because my watermaker was not running for long time. She recommended me to buy new DUO 60 watermaker for € 9,184.00.
I wonder what is good replacement for original watermaker? Should I stay with DESSALATOR brand or there are better and less expensive replacements? Please give me advise.
If someone have replaced original DESSALATOR watermaker and saved DESSALATOR parts, I probubly buy old control board, controlle panel ,pump and other parts.

Vladimir
SM #345 "LIFE IS GOOD"



DESSALATOR DUO 60 ORIGINAL, REPAIR OR REPLACE

VLADIMIR SONSEV
 

I have bought my 2002 Amel SM one year ago. Previous owner told me that the watermaker does not work. He told me that watermaker turns off in less than a minute after it turned on. Previous owner left on the boat a spare set of filters and membranes for DESSALATOR.
Watermaker repairman it Trinidad told me that I have to rebuild high pressure pump, check motors and probubly replace electronic control board.
I removed the pump with two motors. Both motors run fine without load. I have no reason to suspect a motor problem. I disassembled pump. As I expected all seals must be replaced. In addition I discovered that all 4 valves have to be replased because valve seats are deeply pitted. The plunger did not look good. DESSALATOR contact person recommended to replace pump head for € 875.00.
She also told me that watermaker control board and panel are outdated and replacement cost €1,812.00. She told me that probubly membrane housing end plates must be replaced because my watermaker was not running for long time. She recommended me to buy new DUO 60 watermaker for € 9,184.00.
I wonder what is good replacement for original watermaker? Should I stay with DESSALATOR brand or there are better and less expensive replacements? Please give me advise.
If someone have replaced original DESSALATOR watermaker and saved DESSALATOR parts, I probubly buy old control board, controlle panel ,pump and other parts.

Vladimir
SM #345 "LIFE IS GOOD"

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive Wear Bushiing Seal Removal trick by Amel

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Ian,

If you look in the FILES section you will find Wear Bushing and Seal Replacement instructions by Amel. I posted this several months ago.

The instructions in French and English say to use a flat blade screwdriver and pry each seal out one at a time. It does not fully describe what I saw Jean and Franc at Amel Martinique do. I will try to describe what I saw:
Using a flat blade skinny screwdriver with a shaft if 10-12", position the blade end at nine o'clock and the handle end at three o'clock. Push the blade end under the first seal, then using the shaft hub, briskly push forward on the handle end of the screw driver and the seal pops out. There is some art involved because if you push the blade end too far you will scratch the inside wall. Jean and Franc were very careful to smooth the inside wall of the seal cavity so that the outside of the seal would not leak water. They were using 600 sandpaper and a soft cloth, cleaning as much as they sanded.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
Currently St John USVI
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive Wearing Bushing and Bow Thruster seal premature failure

luvkante
 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Mike Ondra
 

I do have and tried the adjustable wrench. Found it too thick or conflicting with the quadrant. What I did not do is turn the rudder to potentially get the quadrant clear enough so that the wrench wing nut did not conflict. Will try that next time on the boat. By the way, York Design and Fabrication, in Ohio, make stuffing box wrenches up to 2 ¾”. I just need to know the size of the nut.

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

 

From: amelyachtowners@... [mailto:amelyachtowners@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 7:59 AM
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

 

 

Bill , I may be wrong , but I think a few months ago you said that you had purchased a suitable wrench at Home Depot or Lowes . I looked in the plumbing dept. and bought the wrench , its flat and adjustable . It looks like it will work perfectly . Mike see if you can't find the wrench at Lowes.

Merry Christmas to All,

Pat

SM Shenanigans

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>
To: amelyachtowners <amelyachtowners@...>
Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2016 6:55 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

 

I don't know the nut size, but the wrench I have used is an adjustable Pack Nut Wrench and adjusts from 1" to 3". It is made by Allied. www.alliedtools.com

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

 

On Dec 20, 2016 11:46 PM, "'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone have the size for the flat wrench required for the SM plastic rudder post packing nut.

Amazon has - 2-1/4" Shaft Packing Wrench for "Rudder Stuffing Box" – but it seems our nut is larger.

Thanks,

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

St. Augustine, FL

 

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive Wearing Bushing and Bow Thruster seal premature failure

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hello Martin;

There is an oil reservoir under the bow thruster cover in the forward locker. Just remove the cover of the bow thruster by removing the thumb screw and you will see the thruster reservoir. I believe Olivier had commented that the last 54 models had fully sealed reservoirs and therefore I'm assuming no tank to fill. Since you are close to the last models, you may have one of these models.

Respectfully;


Mohammad Shirloo
323-633-2222 Cell
310-454-3148 Fax

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

ya_fohi
 

I had a steel one made at a workshop quite cheaply. Note I originally had an aluminium one made but it it was not strong enough.
Paul
Ya Fohi - Amel 54 #98

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive Wearing Bushing and Bow Thruster seal premature failure

luvkante
 

Where do I see the bowthruster-oillevel on my AMEL 54? Never remarked any tank or so!

Martin
AMEL 54 #149 CHIARA


Von meinem iPad gesendet

Am 21.12.2016 um 10:39 schrieb mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...>:

 

In doing the normal engine room inspection before every departure, I saw the top half of the C-Drive oil container was creamy colored indicating water intrusion. I also noticed that the oil had overflowed the container and had poured on top of the raw water filter cover. Our last sail was a motor sail of about 9 hours at 1500-1700 RPMs. At pre-departure inspection, this condition did not exist. SO it would have happened some time during the last 9 hours of engine use. 


I also found out that the bow thruster oil had completely drained during the 3 months that the boat was in the water from August to November 2016. I filled the bow thruster oil and had not leaked out again, but bow thruster use was minimal and was down for only about 15 minutes.

Both items were serviced in May 2015. The engine has about 350 hours since the time of service and the bow thruster gets used rarely, since we anchor most of the time. My question is if this is if others have seen this timeline of failure, is it normal or poor workmanship that would lead to this type of early failure, despite the recommended 800 hours and 2 years by Amel? 

We are hauling out tomorrow to make repairs, even though our scheduled haul out would have been around May 2017. I want to be sure that the work id done corrfectly so that we get the expected life pof the parts. My understanding was that the 2 years is a conservative and convenient way of doing the replacements during the application of the anti-fouling.

Any thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated.

Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive Wearing Bushing and Bow Thruster seal premature failure

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Thanks bill. Yes very helpful. It is much easier to learn from others' experience than try to learn through many mistakes yourself. I like to do everything myself to learn and this groups thoughts and sharing of experience is  always appreciated.

Respectfully;


Mohammad And Aty

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Hi Mike;

I measured ours on the 54 and it measures 73mm. I'm not sure if it is the same on the Super Maramu.

Mohammad and Aty
Amel 54 #099
B&B Kokomo

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive Wearing Bushing and Bow Thruster seal premature failure

ianjenkins1946 <ianjudyjenkins@hotmail.com>
 

Hi Bill,


 How tantalising to read that you learnt something about seal removal....but won't tell us!!


 Please change your mind and tell all--we can then experiment at our own risks.


 Ian and Judy, Pen Azen, SM 3012 , Hyeres


From: amelyachtowners@... on behalf of 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners]
Sent: 21 December 2016 12:19:17
To: amelyachtowners@...
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive Wearing Bushing and Bow Thruster seal premature failure
 

Mohammad,

I have never serviced a 54 bow thruster, but I have serviced, or helped others service the C Drive about 20 times.

There are many things that can be done wrong that will cause water. The most common things I have seen fall into two categories. One is outsmart AMEL, the other is forgetting:

OUTSMART AMEL:
1.) Turn the seal lips differently than Amel instructions
2.) Use a non-Amel sourced part
3.) Use a cheaper seal (it is not just the size that matters)

FORGETTING
1.) Forgetting to read the instructions
2.) Forgetting to clean the cavity wall that the outside of the seal meets and seals against (it is not just the lip on the shaft that keeps water out)
3.) Forgetting to check the size and to grease the wear bushing O ring. Liberally grease this O ring and the slot that it fits into.

Also another common mistake is to not push the seals far enough into the cavity. Read the instructions carefully on this.

Of course you could have a mechanic that is sloppy and damages the cavity wall by using something to pry the old seals out, or he could damage the new seals by not using the old wear bushing to push them in place. Or he could try to outsmart Amel!

If you hire someone to do this job, including Amel, you should watch them carefully (with a copy of instructions) to ensure the job is done properly. I audited the Amel guys in Martinique and can report they did an excellent job. I learned a trick from them about seal removal that I am not going to describe here because I have not tried it, but I believe it is good.

The C Drive oil will expand when it warms up to operating temperature. I have seen the level rise more than 1" or 25mm. If it is overfilled, it will overflow when hot.

And lastly, regardless of whether you do this, or hire it to be done, a mistake can happen.

I hope this helps you.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 21, 2016 5:39 AM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

In doing the normal engine room inspection before every departure, I saw the top half of the C-Drive oil container was creamy colored indicating water intrusion. I also noticed that the oil had overflowed the container and had poured on top of the raw water filter cover. Our last sail was a motor sail of about 9 hours at 1500-1700 RPMs. At pre-departure inspection, this condition did not exist. SO it would have happened some time during the last 9 hours of engine use. 


I also found out that the bow thruster oil had completely drained during the 3 months that the boat was in the water from August to November 2016. I filled the bow thruster oil and had not leaked out again, but bow thruster use was minimal and was down for only about 15 minutes.

Both items were serviced in May 2015. The engine has about 350 hours since the time of service and the bow thruster gets used rarely, since we anchor most of the time. My question is if this is if others have seen this timeline of failure, is it normal or poor workmanship that would lead to this type of early failure, despite the recommended 800 hours and 2 years by Amel? 

We are hauling out tomorrow to make repairs, even though our scheduled haul out would have been around May 2017. I want to be sure that the work id done corrfectly so that we get the expected life pof the parts. My understanding was that the 2 years is a conservative and convenient way of doing the replacements during the application of the anti-fouling.

Any thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated.

Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Patrick McAneny
 

Bill , I may be wrong , but I think a few months ago you said that you had purchased a suitable wrench at Home Depot or Lowes . I looked in the plumbing dept. and bought the wrench , its flat and adjustable . It looks like it will work perfectly . Mike see if you can't find the wrench at Lowes.
Merry Christmas to All,
Pat
SM Shenanigans


-----Original Message-----
From: 'Bill & Judy Rouse' yahoogroups@... [amelyachtowners] To: amelyachtowners
Sent: Wed, Dec 21, 2016 6:55 am
Subject: Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

 
I don't know the nut size, but the wrench I have used is an adjustable Pack Nut Wrench and adjusts from 1" to 3". It is made by Allied. www.alliedtools.com
Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail

On Dec 20, 2016 11:46 PM, "'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 
Does anyone have the size for the flat wrench required for the SM plastic rudder post packing nut.
Amazon has - 2-1/4" Shaft Packing Wrench for "Rudder Stuffing Box" – but it seems our nut is larger.
Thanks,
Mike Ondra
Aletes SM#240
St. Augustine, FL

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] C-Drive Wearing Bushing and Bow Thruster seal premature failure

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Mohammad,

I have never serviced a 54 bow thruster, but I have serviced, or helped others service the C Drive about 20 times.

There are many things that can be done wrong that will cause water. The most common things I have seen fall into two categories. One is outsmart AMEL, the other is forgetting:

OUTSMART AMEL:
1.) Turn the seal lips differently than Amel instructions
2.) Use a non-Amel sourced part
3.) Use a cheaper seal (it is not just the size that matters)

FORGETTING
1.) Forgetting to read the instructions
2.) Forgetting to clean the cavity wall that the outside of the seal meets and seals against (it is not just the lip on the shaft that keeps water out)
3.) Forgetting to check the size and to grease the wear bushing O ring. Liberally grease this O ring and the slot that it fits into.

Also another common mistake is to not push the seals far enough into the cavity. Read the instructions carefully on this.

Of course you could have a mechanic that is sloppy and damages the cavity wall by using something to pry the old seals out, or he could damage the new seals by not using the old wear bushing to push them in place. Or he could try to outsmart Amel!

If you hire someone to do this job, including Amel, you should watch them carefully (with a copy of instructions) to ensure the job is done properly. I audited the Amel guys in Martinique and can report they did an excellent job. I learned a trick from them about seal removal that I am not going to describe here because I have not tried it, but I believe it is good.

The C Drive oil will expand when it warms up to operating temperature. I have seen the level rise more than 1" or 25mm. If it is overfilled, it will overflow when hot.

And lastly, regardless of whether you do this, or hire it to be done, a mistake can happen.

I hope this helps you.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 21, 2016 5:39 AM, "mshirloo@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

In doing the normal engine room inspection before every departure, I saw the top half of the C-Drive oil container was creamy colored indicating water intrusion. I also noticed that the oil had overflowed the container and had poured on top of the raw water filter cover. Our last sail was a motor sail of about 9 hours at 1500-1700 RPMs. At pre-departure inspection, this condition did not exist. SO it would have happened some time during the last 9 hours of engine use. 


I also found out that the bow thruster oil had completely drained during the 3 months that the boat was in the water from August to November 2016. I filled the bow thruster oil and had not leaked out again, but bow thruster use was minimal and was down for only about 15 minutes.

Both items were serviced in May 2015. The engine has about 350 hours since the time of service and the bow thruster gets used rarely, since we anchor most of the time. My question is if this is if others have seen this timeline of failure, is it normal or poor workmanship that would lead to this type of early failure, despite the recommended 800 hours and 2 years by Amel? 

We are hauling out tomorrow to make repairs, even though our scheduled haul out would have been around May 2017. I want to be sure that the work id done corrfectly so that we get the expected life pof the parts. My understanding was that the 2 years is a conservative and convenient way of doing the replacements during the application of the anti-fouling.

Any thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated.

Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

I don't know the nut size, but the wrench I have used is an adjustable Pack Nut Wrench and adjusts from 1" to 3". It is made by Allied. www.alliedtools.com

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 20, 2016 11:46 PM, "'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Does anyone have the size for the flat wrench required for the SM plastic rudder post packing nut.

Amazon has - 2-1/4" Shaft Packing Wrench for "Rudder Stuffing Box" – but it seems our nut is larger.

Thanks,

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

St. Augustine, FL


Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] Re: Genoa halyard splice broken

Bill & Judy Rouse <yahoogroups@...>
 

Derick,

I saw your question yesterday, but could not reply because of Internet issues. I was going to suggest that you get Gaetan, or one of his guys to help you.

I have a 2 foot long piece of very small stainless steel chain in my tool box for this job. Bicycle chain works also.

Bill Rouse
BeBe Amel 53 #387
Sent from my tablet
+1832-380-4970 USA Voice Mail


On Dec 20, 2016 6:22 PM, "derickgates@... [amelyachtowners]" <amelyachtowners@...> wrote:
 

Problem was solved easily by the riggers, who dropped a thin line weighted with about 15 nuts down from the top of the mast (with some significant jiggling to avoid getting hung up part way) until this line could be seen and fished out of the lower opening with a stiff wire. I have elected to go with 40 meters of continuous halyard rather than the spliced-in-the-middle system.  Less trouble and more secure in the long run, in my opinion.  


I made the halyard a little longer than necessary to be able to lop off the last couple of feet at the head of the sail if I find wear or UV damage where it goes over the Genoa halyard block (thanks for the idea Bill Rouse). The 'extra' line at the base of the mast will get protected from UV damage with a line bag, or something similar.

Derick Gates
SM2K#400
Brava
Currently in Le Marin, Martinique

Re: C-Drive Wearing Bushing and Bow Thruster seal premature failure

Mohammad Shirloo
 

Scan some one please direct me to the bow thruster service link for the 54? I would like to see the step by step seal replacement and other require D biannual service. Thank you.

Re: [Amel Yacht Owners] rudder post packing nut size

Donato Valente
 

Mike,
I'm not on board. But we just found the 68.5 mm wrench and it works at the max opening, forcing a little bit. 
Donato 
Sm2000 #468
Ocean Bird 

Inviato da iPhone

Il giorno 21 dic 2016, alle ore 04:45, 'Mike Ondra' mdondra@... [amelyachtowners] <amelyachtowners@...> ha scritto:

 

Does anyone have the size for the flat wrench required for the SM plastic rudder post packing nut.

Amazon has - 2-1/4" Shaft Packing Wrench for "Rudder Stuffing Box" – but it seems our nut is larger.

Thanks,

Mike Ondra

Aletes SM#240

St. Augustine, FL

C-Drive Wearing Bushing and Bow Thruster seal premature failure

Mohammad Shirloo
 

In doing the normal engine room inspection before every departure, I saw the top half of the C-Drive oil container was creamy colored indicating water intrusion. I also noticed that the oil had overflowed the container and had poured on top of the raw water filter cover. Our last sail was a motor sail of about 9 hours at 1500-1700 RPMs. At pre-departure inspection, this condition did not exist. SO it would have happened some time during the last 9 hours of engine use. 

I also found out that the bow thruster oil had completely drained during the 3 months that the boat was in the water from August to November 2016. I filled the bow thruster oil and had not leaked out again, but bow thruster use was minimal and was down for only about 15 minutes.

Both items were serviced in May 2015. The engine has about 350 hours since the time of service and the bow thruster gets used rarely, since we anchor most of the time. My question is if this is if others have seen this timeline of failure, is it normal or poor workmanship that would lead to this type of early failure, despite the recommended 800 hours and 2 years by Amel? 

We are hauling out tomorrow to make repairs, even though our scheduled haul out would have been around May 2017. I want to be sure that the work id done corrfectly so that we get the expected life pof the parts. My understanding was that the 2 years is a conservative and convenient way of doing the replacements during the application of the anti-fouling.

Any thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated.

Mohammad and Aty
B&B Kokomo
Amel 54 #099